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Mar 8, 2019 9:20 AM
#1
| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Aww, Rui isn't feeling too well after some of the more recent events. On the other hand, I still don't like that Shu guy much. He was the one having an affair with Hina and I don't trust him much although I guess he is movig on. Rui's going through a lot in her mind and Hina comforts her so I see their relationship is still pretty close. I didn't find it surprising that Rui is still trying to hold onto Natsuo. Hina and Natsuo's relationship is still going slow. |
Stark700Mar 8, 2019 10:00 AM
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Mar 8, 2019 10:00 AM
#2
| HAHAHA, the madman did it again. Natsuo swayed to the other side again. holy shit, this is some hilariously frustrating development on the other side, Rui gets sibling-zoned  |
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Mar 8, 2019 10:19 AM
#3
| I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" |
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Mar 8, 2019 10:29 AM
#4
| The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 |
Mar 8, 2019 10:38 AM
#5
Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Completly agree I'm just watching cuz i get to relive the natsuo and hina moments. By the looks of the title of the next episode, it looks like they are gonna be skipping another 5 or so chapters sadly. Or its just gonna completely rush through some of them |
dabdan43Mar 8, 2019 10:42 AM
Mar 8, 2019 10:47 AM
#6
| I love the relationship between Hina and Rui; wen i moved out my sister was just so happy to get her own room haha! |
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Mar 8, 2019 10:49 AM
#7
| Natsuo and Hina finally started their secret relationship and Damn Natsuo if one horny boy(not really suprising Hina is pretty hot) |
| well that's just my opinion..... |
Mar 8, 2019 10:51 AM
#8
SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" You just wait, Hina really cares about her future and Natsuo's, man, next episodes are gonna blow your mind. Hina is just the best :D |
| " THE BIRD OF HERMES IS MY NAME, EATING MY WINGS TO MAKE ME TAME... " |
Mar 8, 2019 10:58 AM
#9
| Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others |
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Mar 8, 2019 11:02 AM
#10
| "Incest is wincest" I don't know why but I am really excited whole week to watch this anime but when watching I have a very weird feeling. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:05 AM
#11
CaesarZeppelli said: Meh she's really nothing special. i find Rui to be more entertaining. SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" You just wait, Hina really cares about her future and Natsuo's, man, next episodes are gonna blow your mind. Hina is just the best :D |
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Mar 8, 2019 11:08 AM
#12
SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:19 AM
#13
| Rui knows how mafia works lmao |
Mar 8, 2019 11:38 AM
#14
| LOL I hate Hina more and more each episode. Team Rui to the death. |
 Run with the Wind is criminally underrated. |
Mar 8, 2019 11:48 AM
#15
| this is funniest shit i have ever seen, and i ship Natsuo x Hina cause that's more wrong and intriguing, just want them to get down to bussiness |
Mar 8, 2019 12:15 PM
#16
| I wonder if Hina is going to be able to overwrite the fact that Natsuo boinked her sister. |
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Mar 8, 2019 12:26 PM
#17
| Natsuo got a spare key to Hina's apartment, but why did he had to keep it a secret from Rui tho... And he went to Hina this time, again. I wonder if Hina's going to find out that Natsuo did her sister... |
Mar 8, 2019 12:43 PM
#18
| Natsuo doesn't know it yet but he's achieved Playah status yo. It's inevitable that this guy is gonna wreck both girls lives for sure hehe. Let the carnage begin!!! |
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Mar 8, 2019 12:46 PM
#19
Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Absolutely agree on your opinion the manga is much much better than anime as it proceeds while developing the character Me also watching for hinaxnatsuo #hinafan |
Mar 8, 2019 12:54 PM
#20
| So, Hina's & Natsuo's relationship is a thing now, damn that's good! I ship them. Poor Rui though, she's great too. Having such conversations/actions at school is risky, Natsuo is not considerate hahaha |
Mar 8, 2019 12:54 PM
#21
dabdan43 said: theyre going to fast and if they keep on skipping so many chapters every episode i think they will end this season when Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Completly agree I'm just watching cuz i get to relive the natsuo and hina moments. By the looks of the title of the next episode, it looks like they are gonna be skipping another 5 or so chapters sadly. Or its just gonna completely rush through some of them hina and natsuo get caught and breakup |
Mar 8, 2019 1:00 PM
#22
| My god this show is the best and worst trainwreck at the same time |
What a beautiful Duwang |
Mar 8, 2019 1:15 PM
#23
| Way to go Natsuo, you're doing everything right. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Mar 8, 2019 1:22 PM
#24
eb2 said: dabdan43 said: theyre going to fast and if they keep on skipping so many chapters every episode i think they will end this season when Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Completly agree I'm just watching cuz i get to relive the natsuo and hina moments. By the looks of the title of the next episode, it looks like they are gonna be skipping another 5 or so chapters sadly. Or its just gonna completely rush through some of them hina and natsuo get caught and breakup Nah i think that may be a little to far. i feel itll end on a cliffhanger on ch55 where you see that there is a pic of them, after they slept with each other, but it hasn't been noticed yet. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:47 PM
#25
| That foreshadowing at the end though, can't wait for the next episode. |
Mar 8, 2019 1:48 PM
#26
Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I think you are missing some key points in the story. The reason behind all those failures in HinaxNatsuo relationship was because he was very very immature and young and she was her teacher. She did everything she could to keep Natsuo in the right track thinking about his future and his happiness over her own. Right now they both have changed and if they end up together again there will be no obstacles in heir relationship because even their parents have, in a way, accepted their feelings as a destiny matter. |
| " THE BIRD OF HERMES IS MY NAME, EATING MY WINGS TO MAKE ME TAME... " |
Mar 8, 2019 1:50 PM
#27
FMmatron said: Way to go Natsuo, you're doing everything right. lol, you just want to see the dude get laid with every damn chick in the show  |
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Mar 8, 2019 1:56 PM
#28
uninstallthegame said: FMmatron said: Way to go Natsuo, you're doing everything right. lol, you just want to see the dude get laid with every damn chick in the show I'm slowly losing interest in this show, the salt might be the only saving grace. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
Mar 8, 2019 2:12 PM
#29
| Alex only got a small scene to appear in, but his enthusiasm and terrible Engrish always puts a smile on my face. XD Anyway, it seems that Hina & Natsuo are fully committed with their secret romantic relationship now, which does throw away from stern words that Hina told to Natsuo back in episode 7. The person I feel sorry for the most is Rui. Not only she got sibling-zoned, but I do worry that she might find out about Hina & Natsuo's secret relationship and if she does, how she would react to it. Going by the next episode's title, Liar, I feel that shit will hit the fan. At this rate, Natsuo and Hina's relationship will probably only go on to hurt them both, as well as Rui and their parents... |
Mar 8, 2019 2:53 PM
#30
| Okay, what the F? No, seriously, what the actual F has this show turned into and so fast? At least chose the right girl you low life dimwit. I'm still digging the drama however I can't help but coop up with how hypocrite both of them look like now, and he just told Rui that he'll be there for her as a step-brother, at least proceed with your treason after you've finished breathing from the last sentence you damn brat. |
Mar 8, 2019 3:02 PM
#31
Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. |
Mar 8, 2019 3:23 PM
#32
dabdan43 said: ye that makes sense too eb2 said: dabdan43 said: Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Completly agree I'm just watching cuz i get to relive the natsuo and hina moments. By the looks of the title of the next episode, it looks like they are gonna be skipping another 5 or so chapters sadly. Or its just gonna completely rush through some of them hina and natsuo get caught and breakup Nah i think that may be a little to far. i feel itll end on a cliffhanger on ch55 where you see that there is a pic of them, after they slept with each other, but it hasn't been noticed yet. are there going to be 12 episodes or more? |
Mar 8, 2019 3:23 PM
#33
OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well |
dabdan43Mar 8, 2019 3:28 PM
Mar 8, 2019 3:25 PM
#34
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Mar 8, 2019 3:32 PM
#35
eb2 said: dabdan43 said: ye that makes sense too eb2 said: dabdan43 said: theyre going to fast and if they keep on skipping so many chapters every episode i think they will end this season when Keo94 said: The anime sucks and is rushed as hell but at least I can enjoy the HinaxNatsuo moments If u like this show my advice is to go and read the manga, is 100 times better Hina fam <3 Completly agree I'm just watching cuz i get to relive the natsuo and hina moments. By the looks of the title of the next episode, it looks like they are gonna be skipping another 5 or so chapters sadly. Or its just gonna completely rush through some of them hina and natsuo get caught and breakup Nah i think that may be a little to far. i feel itll end on a cliffhanger on ch55 where you see that there is a pic of them, after they slept with each other, but it hasn't been noticed yet. are there going to be 12 episodes or more? I'm not sure tbh but i just assumed its 12 |
Mar 8, 2019 3:41 PM
#36
| It was an OK episode for me.. nothing great nor bad. I did really enjoy the few seconds Alex came on screen again. When he greeted Rui in english I really hoped Rui would’ve greeted back in english, that would’ve been funny. |
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Mar 8, 2019 3:58 PM
#37
Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year ijavascript:void(0);n which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Just out of curiosity besides they're break up what were the moments that you considered were sad in they're relationship that you would say they had more sad than happy moments together. Because to me I never considered him sad in that relationship, sure he was insecure but that's more because of the student-teacher relationship they were in and the ever-looming consequences of it. It was in this relationship that he found the resolve to become a writer so that he could help support the person he loved, wether it be hina or rui |
Mar 8, 2019 3:58 PM
#38
Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Also, you can’t say you wouldn’t want someone to sacrifice yourself for your happiness. Our parents do it all the time behind our back. It’s that unconditional love. Then once time passes and we look back and see the it picture, we are actually grateful and we don’t hold it against us. Nothing different here about Natsuo and Hina. The issue is rather that she should have discussed it with him rather than doing it behind his back Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. |
OGAnimeMar 8, 2019 4:04 PM
Mar 8, 2019 4:04 PM
#39
OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. |
Mar 8, 2019 4:11 PM
#40
dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. |
Mar 8, 2019 4:41 PM
#41
OGAnime said: dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. Lets say shu were to be thrown back in the mix would you still put momey on hina? MY gut is saying hina (Which i want ) its just 100+ chapters of rui and natuso is the only thing making me question my self. My makes you so positive that, that relationship is done done. Sorry im not questiong you im just curious is all. Trust me the only resaon i stuck round in this manga was the hope he would get back with hina. Even though rui grew on me. |
Mar 8, 2019 4:47 PM
#42
OGAnime said: dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. Can't agree enough with what you said here. Right love, wrong time. Honestly i never liked Rui that much and i felt like she was selfish and unstrusty in a lot of situations, despite being supportive to Natsuo. Also i felt like Rui and Natsuo's relationship ended not because they were really a burden to each other, but because of lack of proper communication between the 2 led Rui to that conclusion. Maybe i'm wrong and biased because of personal experience but that's just my 2 cents. Can't say that i'm on Hina's or Rui's side though, maybe 61/39 to Hina because she suffered a lot and deserves a good ending (plus i heard she gives good head so that's that 1% bonus). |
kendoka01Mar 8, 2019 4:50 PM
Mar 8, 2019 4:51 PM
#43
OGAnime said: dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. I completely agree with you good sir! Hina and Natsuo have no more obstacles, neither work, nor their parents oppose to them being together now, so it's just a matter of time, and im only following this manga because there is hope for Hina to have a happy ending, i actually dont care about Natsuo happiness, but Hina deserves to have her happy ending. |
| " THE BIRD OF HERMES IS MY NAME, EATING MY WINGS TO MAKE ME TAME... " |
Mar 8, 2019 5:03 PM
#44
| know whats even more suspect that ducking down together in a hallway KISSING?!what is you doin lol surely nothing is gonna go wrong in this slow healthy relationship they've started |
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Mar 8, 2019 5:13 PM
#45
| Why do I keep hearing the music of the last episode of School Days in my head every time he does something with one of the girl ? Especially when he tried to bang Hina i had flashback of kotonoha and makoto. |
Mar 8, 2019 5:13 PM
#46
Pointygnome said: dabdan43 said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year ijavascript:void(0);n which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Just out of curiosity besides they're break up what were the moments that you considered were sad in they're relationship that you would say they had more sad than happy moments together. Because to me I never considered him sad in that relationship, sure he was insecure but that's more because of the student-teacher relationship they were in and ever-looming consequences of it. It was in this relationship that he found the resolve to become a writer so that he could help support the person he loved, wether it be hina or rui I actually listed a few in one of the replies back. OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. I did primarily focused on the indecisiveness of my previous relationship as basis to compare them with each other but whatever. Hina's indecisiveness shows during multiple situations before she found Natsuo and Rui kissing and remains a character trait even in the latest chapters. I did mention several times before that my opinion can change depending on what happens in the future chapters and I have yet to find basis for their relationship to be 'healthy' and 'great' as you claim it possible to be. Because since Hina returned the relationship with Rui ended and Natsuo got stabbed by that psycho stalker. If she were more assertive and true to her feelings, the dating and the semi-arranged marriage with the psycho-stalker wouldn't have happened and extremely likely that what happened because of it (stabbing) wouldn't have either. I mean she quit her dream job for Natsuo, she came back for Natsuo and then instead of going for Natsuo she halfheartedly goes along with somebody's decision to go on a date. In short her indecisiveness is partially to blame for what occurred but it's not her fault he ended up being a psycho stalker. The relationship's form being common can be said about Hina's and Natsuo's relationship as well, two people in love and it not coming to fruition (until later?). That doesn't guarantee it will come to fruition or be great and healthy when it does. I remember reading a Tweet saying that the manga will not extend to be over 30 volumes meaning we have around 90-120~ chapters left before the manga ends which is a pretty long time to have our conclusion yet. If he ends up with Hina within 20-30 chapters I doubt it will be smooth-sailing from thereon-out. It will not surprise me if something drastic happens like the writer killing off Hina (or even Rui) and Natsuo growing closer to one or the other in turn. In many romance manga's MC ends up with the first girl, but who can you consider being the first girl in this manga.... Rui was the first girl he was intimate with but Hina was the one he loved before the manga commenced. Thanks for reminding me of Hina’s indecisiveness, forgot about those small details. That would indeed be an issue to work out in a relationship but can we really classify that as toxic or unhealthy? Indecisiveness, unless pushed to the extreme doesn’t make a relationship toxic. I mean girls don’t know what they want to eat, what they want to wear, where they want to go etc. You get my point. I’m sorry you had to unfortunately deal with a relationship where the indecisiveness was toxic but we can’t generalize it because indecisiveness in genera isn’t toxic. May I remind you in Hina’s case, her indecisiveness is strongly due to Rui being present. Hina never expected Natsuo to date her when she told him to wait. Hina and Natsuo’s is definitely not something you find as often nowadays because their love was literally them against the world. The only relationship that have those type of issues that I’ve encountered is when religion/family is the issue and even then, it’s not against the world, just the family. Hina/Natsuo’s breakup was doomed to happen no matter due to circumstances, not because they were bad for one another. Take that away and now Hina’s indecisiveness to not wanting to hurt Rui would be the only thing standing in the way. I agree that I can’t exactly shout that their relationship would be 100% healthy but it definitely wouldn’t be bad whatsoever. |
Mar 8, 2019 5:16 PM
#47
| I'm enjoying this junk food series and hope the MC gets to get schooled by sensei, but I also really wonder, what the hell happened to MC's buddy from the cafe, has he been abducted by aliens? I haven't seen him in several episodes, he is AWOL and needs to get his ass back on the show. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
Mar 8, 2019 5:20 PM
#48
CaesarZeppelli said: OGAnime said: dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. I completely agree with you good sir! Hina and Natsuo have no more obstacles, neither work, nor their parents oppose to them being together now, so it's just a matter of time, and im only following this manga because there is hope for Hina to have a happy ending, i actually dont care about Natsuo happiness, but Hina deserves to have her happy ending. Lmaoo same. She’s been depressed too long. Would be so stupid to not have her get an happy ending but wtv. I feel like natsuo could be happy with just about any chick |
Mar 8, 2019 5:25 PM
#49
Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. He so I saw your comments in a thread in the manga portion of this website. And i was just curious what makes you so positive the Hina is gonna be endgame? Cuz for me, while id love for that to be true, i see it being 50/50 between the two sisters. Their first relationship was rushed, worse time to be in a relationship, they were setting themselves for a check mate. It was a burning fire that was all over the place. Now, the relationship is slowly burning. Like we’re waiting for all the chess pieces to be at the right spot before going further. A slow fire that grows but stays contained. Hina and Natsuo’s relationship is honestly just Right love at the wrong time. Think objectively. The issue with school is gone, the parents gave their blessing. They are not fighting against the world anymore which was basically what doomed their relationship in the first place. Rui and Natsuo was a beautiful relationship but that’s it. Also Hina’s been depressed since the break up, it would beyond stupid to give her a shit ending unless the author wants to give us a middle finger lmao. The 'blessing' as you keep reminding of us was done in a situation where everything spiraled out of control making it seem more like a desperate plea(emotional response) rather than full-on acceptance of the aforementioned. It added to the drama in the scene and feels more like a red herring than anything significant. It also seem a bit easy to me to just go along and say he'll end up with Hina, while there's possibly 8-9 volumes of the manga remaining. The author mentioned not going far beyond 30 volumes and up till now most volumes had around 10 chapters. Sometimes, it takes a dramatic event for people to start thinking objectively. I personally don’t believe that the parents were giving their blessing on the spur of the moment. The way it was written was more like a realization from their part. I’m honestly going by logic and looking at it objectively at this point when I say he ends with Hina. Would be incredibly shit writing to have Natsuo jump between Hina and Rui inside of 100 chapters when rui basically got like 100 chapters of him. Especially also because of the slow burn with Hina. Of course, the author could give me a fuck you and go with Rui. |
Mar 8, 2019 5:28 PM
#50
OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: dabdan43 said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year ijavascript:void(0);n which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Just out of curiosity besides they're break up what were the moments that you considered were sad in they're relationship that you would say they had more sad than happy moments together. Because to me I never considered him sad in that relationship, sure he was insecure but that's more because of the student-teacher relationship they were in and ever-looming consequences of it. It was in this relationship that he found the resolve to become a writer so that he could help support the person he loved, wether it be hina or rui I actually listed a few in one of the replies back. OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Rui and Natsuo are going through a rough patch at the moment and they need time off to reevaluate their positions in life. A break-up such as this one does not necessarily mean it's the end of them. Surely the break-up hurt Natsuo but Rui saw no other option than facing the matter at hand (head-on) and do the thing that is best in the current situation. Hina would most likely have this situation spiral out of control until Natsuo would break it up himself. I've had a relationship with a woman comparable to Hina, there were great highs but even greater lows during that relationship that left me emotionally wrecked and if I were given the chance I would not even consider getting back with her. The effects of that relationship still haunt me today despite it being having happened 6 years ago. I have difficulty trusting women, find it hard to confide in them and actively prevent myself from falling head over heels for somebody anymore. Why? Because the woman I dated was as indecisive about what she wanted as Hina is with Natsuo in a way. I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing that hurts greater than living in uncertainty all the time and being unable to influence it to change it. So when people say Hina is great even when they read the manga I wonder if these people are sadomasochists or something. My opinion on Hina can change depending on her character development, but there will always be that lingering feeling where I know her indecisiveness has hurt Natsuo greatly in the past and may end up hurting him even more in the future. I also wouldn't like for my partner to give up her dreams (dream job) for me since that would make me feel extremely bad and would remove an integral part of that person's character. dabdan43 said: OGAnime said: Pointygnome said: Ashhk said: Natsuo is too much undecided and i feel like the drama is a bit forced, still good episode but i'm worried for the others Basically like any insecure teenage boy around that age would be. Many insecure teenage boys that can have experiences with two separate girls would probably give it a shot. OGAnime said: SoraSenpai said: I can't stand Hina anymore. Like you're crossing multiple lines girl and you still want to be with Natsuo. I mean I know the old slogan "Love has no bounds" But Jesus she's gotta consider not only her future but Natsuos as well. Rui writing that Gangster Novel though lol. "Experience" Hina is best girl. And trust me, she will have her character development and consider Natsuo’s future above absolutely anything else more than any other character in this series. Not sure if you read the manga but..: Most of Natsuo's saddest moments were (indirectly) caused by Hina in the manga, being together has led both characters onto several emotional roller-coasters and instead of the relationship improving their lives it keeps making them take steps backwards. This relationship is based on self-sacrifice where one or both of them has to give up something to be together, as example Hina gives up her dream job as teacher to be closer to Natsuo. Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui and on top of that they both grew as individuals thanks to each other's support. Both characters show good character development which is visible in their personal relationship, their school life and their achievements at work. My opinion is subject to change depending on what future chapters have in store but as it currently stands I would say a relationship with Rui is the healthier option out of the two. Personally, I find Hina pretty bland as a character up till now.. I actually do read the manga. Rui and Natsuo’s relationship isn’t healthy anymore. They don’t support each other or complete each other anymore. Rather they now feel like a burden to each other and are constantly insecure.Their relationship started and went like any first healthy relationship. And just like many, it declined to a point where both character could not grow together anymore. Rui understood and explained that. That’s why she broke up. It was sincerely a great first love and even though I am team Hina, Rui was an amazing girlfriend. But it is what it is. His relationship with Hina isn’t about self-sacrifice. It originally was due to Natsuo being in High school that’s all. Now it’s just Hina constantly sacrificing herself for his happiness without his knowledge. She inflicted upon him the greatest pain that gave him the greatest growth that he needed. He would have never followed his dream of becoming a writer like he has now and focus on his future. Hina did the right move out of love. You might find Hina bland because there isn’t much development around her other than “I will sacrifice myself for Natuso” which I agree as a team Hina. Agree with everything you just said. But to me imo hina is definetly not bland more along the lines of tragic. Also to say that "Natsuo's happiest and most intimate moments were shared with Rui" isn't entirely true. His and hinas relationship while short was definitely a time of pure joy for him as well There were a few happy moments between Hina and Natsuo but there were even more sad moments in the short period of time the relationship went on before she left the school. Natsuo and Rui's relationship lasted over a year in which they had a lot more happy/intimate moments and they've had a few of those before they got into the relationship in the first place before Hina left. Unless you were having an affair with a teacher at a time in your life where 1 slip could possibly ruin your future , then your past relationship is simply not comparable whatsoever to Hina and Natsuo’s. The only thing comparable would be the indecisiveness of the partner in question. Hina and Natsuo was simply right love at the wrong time. Hina’s current indecisive towards Natsuo is justified and if she were to actually take action, it would only mess with Natsuo’s state even further. And her current indecisiveness is honestly just in regards to Rui. Past that barrier, there’s absolutely nothing holding them back from havin a healthy and open relationship. Even the parents gave their blessing. You need to look at what Hina and Natsuo’s relationship would be now and not judge it by its past circumstances. Natsuo and Rui’s relationship is honestly the most common relationship you will find in real life. Hell, that was literally mine and millions of others. If a couple stops growing together naturally and not because of some dramatic event, then a break up is simply a matter of time no matter how you try to fix it. Time reveals all and if both partners naturally drift apart, there’s not much you can do. Breaks in between couple are usually intended for both parties to take time to weight the pros and cons of a relationship. Their relationship didn’t even need one because it was a long distance one, which gave Rui PLENTY of time to think it over. When she broke up, you could tell she really thought about it. Rui’s break up was a definite and a bittersweet one. I couldn’t help but look at my past relationships the same way and how they ended the same way. Cherish the memories. You still love the person but the love grows differently. I did primarily focused on the indecisiveness of my previous relationship as basis to compare them with each other but whatever. Hina's indecisiveness shows during multiple situations before she found Natsuo and Rui kissing and remains a character trait even in the latest chapters. I did mention several times before that my opinion can change depending on what happens in the future chapters and I have yet to find basis for their relationship to be 'healthy' and 'great' as you claim it possible to be. Because since Hina returned the relationship with Rui ended and Natsuo got stabbed by that psycho stalker. If she were more assertive and true to her feelings, the dating and the semi-arranged marriage with the psycho-stalker wouldn't have happened and extremely likely that what happened because of it (stabbing) wouldn't have either. I mean she quit her dream job for Natsuo, she came back for Natsuo and then instead of going for Natsuo she halfheartedly goes along with somebody's decision to go on a date. In short her indecisiveness is partially to blame for what occurred but it's not her fault he ended up being a psycho stalker. The relationship's form being common can be said about Hina's and Natsuo's relationship as well, two people in love and it not coming to fruition (until later?). That doesn't guarantee it will come to fruition or be great and healthy when it does. I remember reading a Tweet saying that the manga will not extend to be over 30 volumes meaning we have around 90-120~ chapters left before the manga ends which is a pretty long time to have our conclusion yet. If he ends up with Hina within 20-30 chapters I doubt it will be smooth-sailing from thereon-out. It will not surprise me if something drastic happens like the writer killing off Hina (or even Rui) and Natsuo growing closer to one or the other in turn. In many romance manga's MC ends up with the first girl, but who can you consider being the first girl in this manga.... Rui was the first girl he was intimate with but Hina was the one he loved before the manga commenced. Thanks for reminding me of Hina’s indecisiveness, forgot about those small details. That would indeed be an issue to work out in a relationship but can we really classify that as toxic or unhealthy? Indecisiveness, unless pushed to the extreme doesn’t make a relationship toxic. I mean girls don’t know what they want to eat, what they want to wear, where they want to go etc. You get my point. I’m sorry you had to unfortunately deal with a relationship where the indecisiveness was toxic but we can’t generalize it because indecisiveness in genera isn’t toxic. May I remind you in Hina’s case, her indecisiveness is strongly due to Rui being present. Hina never expected Natsuo to date her when she told him to wait. Hina and Natsuo’s is definitely not something you find as often nowadays because their love was literally them against the world. The only relationship that have those type of issues that I’ve encountered is when religion/family is the issue and even then, it’s not against the world, just the family. Hina/Natsuo’s breakup was doomed to happen no matter due to circumstances, not because they were bad for one another. Take that away and now Hina’s indecisiveness to not wanting to hurt Rui would be the only thing standing in the way. I agree that I can’t exactly shout that their relationship would be 100% healthy but it definitely wouldn’t be bad whatsoever. About the pre-arranged date/marriage. Think of it as a way to get over the feelings she feels, since her sister already dates him. Simply put a rebound, rebounds are an "easy" way to get over someone and she had a ton of second thoughts etc etc, if it would work or not. I don't really blame her for that, heck i know a ton of ppl that have done that, friends of mine as well, myself included once to get distracted. If it works? Depends the person, but since this is a story and they had to "tie" some things and most likely foreshadow some future events, it worked pretty well. Hina isn't so indecisive, she is more grounded than u give her credit for, obviously quitting her dream job is a mistake but she did what she believed she should do to save her loved one AND it is a piece of fiction so more drama was needed to make it more interesting. I am a Hina fan, it is quite obvious but if it ends at around 8-9 volumes it means we have around 80-90 chapters. We have many plot points that haven't been closed yet, Rui and the chef IF it is a thing, how they gonna announce it to their family even though it is quite obvious that they know about it, his mentor and his daughter, the drama club and the girl that likes him. And ofc the preparation for their new relationship, how it will grow and Misaki, which is a mystery so far. She is trying to keep her in a shroud of mystery but it feels more like a mean to keep cheap cliffhangers at this point for the things that will follow. |
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