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Feb 6, 2019 3:00 PM
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We ALMOST had a Chika level cuteness( anime not manga) with Filo and the harem part of isekai RUINED IT!!!! DAMN YOU ISEKAI!!









Still like the show tho but damn was i disapointed, hope it doesnt ruin the dynamic
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Bronos23 said:
We ALMOST had a Chika level cuteness( anime not manga) with Filo and the harem part of isekai RUINED IT!!!! DAMN YOU ISEKAI!!



Little spoiler that you probably want to hear:






Feb 6, 2019 3:09 PM
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Bronos23 said:
We ALMOST had a Chika level cuteness( anime not manga) with Filo and the harem part of isekai RUINED IT!!!! DAMN YOU ISEKAI!!









Still like the show tho but damn was i disapointed, hope it doesnt ruin the dynamic
oh god another one of these comments

This series is not a harem and Naofumi does not have any vulgar thoughts of his companions nor does he want to fuck them. He sees Raphtalia as more of a sister, Firo as more of a daughter. As for the later side characters that joins his party,
So no, this is no harem. And Firo is a bird, so don't compare her to Chika. Chika is on a whole other level of... uniqueness.

Edit: added spoiler tags just in case
Feb 6, 2019 3:33 PM
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So basically, more than two female characters = automatic harem now? Good to know that this community is as stupid as ever.

Feb 6, 2019 3:39 PM
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Someone has been dreaming too much.


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Feb 6, 2019 3:49 PM
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Maybe it is not harem however this episode has reaally disappointed me.
Feb 6, 2019 3:53 PM
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  1. Nothing in this show can hope to compare to Chika.
  2. This is not a harem.
Feb 6, 2019 5:44 PM
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SSL443 said:
  1. Nothing in this show can hope to compare to Chika.
  2. This is not a harem.

Filo can beat any girl in this season when it comes to cuteness.
Feb 6, 2019 5:47 PM
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Il_Demiurgo said:
Maybe it is not harem however this episode has reaally disappointed me.

This is one of those light hearted episodes this is required as a change of pace since some intense stuff happens after this.
Feb 6, 2019 5:48 PM
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The first episode was THE ONLY good episode, the rest is lifeless and terrible. The most recent episode was pure disappointment, especially the very ending.
Feb 6, 2019 6:04 PM

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Dhyan_manu said:

This is one of those light hearted episodes this is required as a change of pace since some intense stuff happens after this.

This episode was not so much light-hearted as bafflingly goofy and slapstick.
Feb 6, 2019 6:36 PM

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You don't seem to get somee stuff about anime... That stuff is:
1.- More than 2 female leads =/= Harem
2.- Isekai =/= Harem (Even tho it happens a lot of times.)

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Feb 6, 2019 6:41 PM

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Il_Demiurgo said:
Maybe it is not harem however this episode has reaally disappointed me.

This episode is the cooloff between the first and second arc. Its what some people might call "Canonical Filler". The Firo Stuff gets explained next episode but in a very basic way. The real explanation comes later. More or less a bit before or after the next wave hits. If you want spoilers hit me up.



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Feb 6, 2019 6:43 PM

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who the hell is chika
Feb 6, 2019 6:48 PM

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who the hell is chika

I don't know if he is talking about Chika from love live (Worst Muse member) or if he Mispelled Chaika





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Feb 6, 2019 6:52 PM

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Bronos23 said:
We ALMOST had a Chika level cuteness( anime not manga) with Filo and the harem part of isekai RUINED IT!!!! DAMN YOU ISEKAI!!









Still like the show tho but damn was i disapointed, hope it doesnt ruin the dynamic
What’s the matter with you? You sure get triggered easy. Go have a hissy somewhere else, there’s serious people here.
Feb 6, 2019 6:54 PM

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Afloo said:
Only_Brad said:
who the hell is chika

I don't know if he is talking about Chika from love live (Worst Muse member) or if he Mispelled Chaika




Chika from Kaguya-sama. She's cute for sure.
Feb 6, 2019 6:56 PM

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Dude, just take it easy man.
Feb 6, 2019 7:32 PM

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I don't consider Filo a "girl" part of Naofumi's "harem". I mean the only character that has actual feelings for him is Raphtaila.

Feb 6, 2019 7:34 PM

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Having more than 1 female character beside the MC automatically make it a harem huh? What a fucking moron.

Feb 6, 2019 8:01 PM
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Not gonna lie, when the bird turned into a Loli I almost dropped the series. It gets too rough to handle this scummy writing.
"Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru)
Feb 6, 2019 8:16 PM
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This thread is just dumb.
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Afloo said:
Only_Brad said:
who the hell is chika

I don't know if he is talking about Chika from love live (Worst Muse member) or if he Mispelled Chaika



Chika Fujiwara from Kaguya-sama this season. The studio gave her an ED where she does a cute dance(rotoscoping) and now weebs are praising her like she's the second coming of Christ.
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NothinComplexPls said:
Afloo said:

I don't know if he is talking about Chika from love live (Worst Muse member) or if he Mispelled Chaika



Chika Fujiwara from Kaguya-sama this season. The studio gave her an ED where she does a cute dance(rotoscoping) and now weebs are praising her like she's the second coming of Christ.
Yeah I have seen the 10000000000's of memes about her on r/Animemes but since I was waiting for the Show to end I didn't know her name. Maybe thats why I didn't think opf her when I read this thread.



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Feb 6, 2019 9:32 PM
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NothinComplexPls said:
cchigu said:
Not gonna lie, when the bird turned into a Loli I almost dropped the series. It gets too rough to handle this scummy writing.

It was required for comic relief. You want the series to stay edgy all the time?
It was certainly not a comic relief(coming from a manga and web novel reader), I really think it is fine to watch/read this series but many times I have thought that the writing could have been way better (catering to the taste of the general public) and not just cheesy and otaku pandering(a problem that every ln/wn has).
"Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru)
Feb 7, 2019 12:03 AM

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People complain when the show victimize Naofumi too much, but they will also complain when a laid-back comedic episode happen as well.

People ask for more cast > interduce a new girl > they complain it's a harem now.

You can't win with those guys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Feb 7, 2019 12:21 AM

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cchigu said:
Not gonna lie, when the bird turned into a Loli I almost dropped the series. It gets too rough to handle this scummy writing.
u should check out the manga verison of this episode
at the very least when she transformed, she didn't do it on his lap so thats already a +
and the part about explaining why she got so big came BEFore the transformation

the way the anime did it ... it just looked like a typical 'OH LOOK MY PET TURNED INTO A NAKED LOLI'' scenario

also the race part was better in the manga too
in the anime the way they cheated looked flat af and when filo was trying to overcome the slow spell casted on her there was some actual effects, as the ground cracked around her feet when she speeded up as she forced her way through the slow spell... not some lazy ass dust flying up and showing us the forest from above zoomed out thingy

and the traps weren't some largely obvious stupid sink holes on the road.. they were small holes directed right toward flio's feet causing her to trip, the only large holes created at the end was actually seen by everyone and was used as proof for her cheating.. not some retarded ''' we detected some magic being used'' bs .. also the spearhero actually fell in that hole too... in the anime we see 2 holes and we no idea how the spearhero crossed that shit without him even noticing there was a large ass pit hole there
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I consider myself a Harem expert and let me tell you right now that I AGREE (to a certain extent) with the OP.

Most Harem anime are written in such a fashion where the MC starts to “charm” one girl at a time until he has a collection of girls (usually 3 or more) literally begging MC for affection.

I don’t read the manga, so I have no idea....and maybe it will NOT turn out that way...

BUT...so far, these past few episodes are exactly what one would see in other Harem anime.

MC finds the main heroine, at the beginning they probably don’t like each other or whatever, slowly but surely they begin to bond and then we see the Main heroine infatuated with MC at a very high level.

[check]

Afterwards, a new girl will emerge, many times out of nowhere, and she will be quite different than the Main Heroine.

[check]

And I think you guys know the rest...

Again...maybe this WONT be a Harem, but so far this is EXACTLY how harems are.
Feb 7, 2019 12:53 AM

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The first episode was THE ONLY good episode, the rest is lifeless and terrible. The most recent episode was pure disappointment, especially the very ending.

I think the first two episodes were VERY good myself.

And I was thinking to myself...oh wow, maybe this will be a GREAT isekai anime, that doesn’t follow the same fucking script as almost every other isekai.

But then the last two episodes happened, and suddenly, this is looking VERY familiar to your standard isekai.

And the thing is I LIKE harems...I really do.

But I just wanted something new, especially for an isekai.

Goddammit!

Why did it have to turn into a loli?

The bird was already a nice addition to the party, there was no need for this.
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--ALEX-- said:
2ego said:
The first episode was THE ONLY good episode, the rest is lifeless and terrible. The most recent episode was pure disappointment, especially the very ending.

I think the first two episodes were VERY good myself.

And I was thinking to myself...oh wow, maybe this will be a GREAT isekai anime, that doesn’t follow the same fucking script as almost every other isekai.

But then the last two episodes happened, and suddenly, this is looking VERY familiar to your standard isekai.

And the thing is I LIKE harems...I really do.

But I just wanted something new, especially for an isekai.

Goddammit!

Why did it have to turn into a loli?

The bird was already a nice addition to the party, there was no need for this.


It's a little sad really, Isekai is a mistake... Also, isn't it just AMAZING how every character feels lifeless? As if each and every character is some certified DEVIL...
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Il_Demiurgo said:
Maybe it is not harem however this episode has reaally disappointed me.
The race against Motoyasu was NOT in the WN. It's one of the changes which makes the LN different from the WN. It's very likely that the publisher's editorial department thought that having the heroes doing reconstruction works is boring & thus told the author to change that part.

Originally, Motoyasu & Naofumi was simply passing by each other on the road when the former laughed at the "fat" bird pulling the later's carriage, calling it looks like a pig. This caused Filo to get angry & kick his groin in response.

That being said, the LN & manga handled the race better than the anime as another user has pointed out.
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Alright
I'm done

I'm not gonna read any thread about shield hero from now on, I'm just gonna keep enjoying this great anime

Reading all these bs is pissing me off
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Alright
I'm done

I'm not gonna read any thread about shield hero from now on, I'm just gonna keep enjoying this great anime

Reading all these bs is pissing me off

yeah, dude, and rewatch SAO after that, another great anime
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Devil_Slayer said:
People complain when the show victimize Naofumi too much, but they will also complain when a laid-back comedic episode happen as well.

People ask for more cast > interduce a new girl > they complain it's a harem now.

You can't win with those guys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Or the critique simply comes from more than one person hence allowing for multiple angles of criticism?

I find the almost comical vicitmization and villainization one of the show's most grating issues while others see the implication of an ever growing female cast around the MC as one. Different strokes for different folks.

That does not mean that said criticism is invalid because it's coming from multiple sources all of which experience & value media differently.

I don't know but this "hater this, hater that" angle that people tend to bring to the table just feels like it's excluding criticism because said people don't wanna hear it.
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2ego said:
--ALEX-- said:

I think the first two episodes were VERY good myself.

And I was thinking to myself...oh wow, maybe this will be a GREAT isekai anime, that doesn’t follow the same fucking script as almost every other isekai.

But then the last two episodes happened, and suddenly, this is looking VERY familiar to your standard isekai.

And the thing is I LIKE harems...I really do.

But I just wanted something new, especially for an isekai.

Goddammit!

Why did it have to turn into a loli?

The bird was already a nice addition to the party, there was no need for this.


It's a little sad really, Isekai is a mistake... Also, isn't it just AMAZING how every character feels lifeless? As if each and every character is some certified DEVIL...

They are not lifeless lol you are. You can't blame them since their hatred towards the shield is on that level which blind them enough to do whatever it takes to humiliate him by every means possible.
Also that bird is SSR Class legendary filolial queen which is why she can transform into human and bird form at will. Also filo is the trigger for his cursed series to activate.
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Dhyan_manu said:
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It's a little sad really, Isekai is a mistake... Also, isn't it just AMAZING how every character feels lifeless? As if each and every character is some certified DEVIL...

They are not lifeless lol you are. You can't blame them since their hatred towards the shield is on that level which blind them enough to do whatever it takes to humiliate him by every means possible


"you are" from that one sentence I'm not going to listen to a word you say, you don't deserve to be listened :)
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They are not lifeless lol you are. You can't blame them since their hatred towards the shield is on that level which blind them enough to do whatever it takes to humiliate him by every means possible


"you are" from that one sentence I'm not going to listen to a word you say, you don't deserve to be listened :)

It's true since you couldn't even understand the basic characters in the story. There are no plot holes not bland excuses in this anime everything happened so far all the questions has an answer it's just won't spoon feed you from the get go.
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There are no plot holes not bland excuses in this anime everything happened so far all the questions has an answer it's just won't spoon feed you from the get go.


But apparently there are enough for you to literally shove non tagged spoilers into his face. If that isn't spoon feeding in an attempt drown out any negative opinion that exist for the content the anime has as of now, then I don't know what is.
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Devil_Slayer said:
People complain when the show victimize Naofumi too much, but they will also complain when a laid-back comedic episode happen as well.

People ask for more cast > interduce a new girl > they complain it's a harem now.

You can't win with those guys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Or the critique simply comes from more than one person hence allowing for multiple angles of criticism?

I find the almost comical vicitmization and villainization one of the show's most grating issues while others see the implication of an ever growing female cast around the MC as one. Different strokes for different folks.

That does not mean that said criticism is invalid because it's coming from multiple sources all of which experience & value media differently.

I don't know but this "hater this, hater that" angle that people tend to bring to the table just feels like it's excluding criticism because said people don't wanna hear it.

This show has a lot of flaws, no one is saying this is not the case, but most of the complains are rather an idiotic one.

Sure episode 5 was comical at best with how they portray Myne, but people here are complaining why they turned the bird into a girl. I mean, really?

It's like people forgot what they are watching, this is still an Isekai series where there is bunch of girls roaming around, not for the MC himself, but to hook up those otakus with "Muh waifus" aspect of the series, this is the case even with the famous "Re:Zero"
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That show has a lot of flaws, no one is saying that not true. But most of the complains are rather an idiotic one.

Sure episode 5 was comical at best with how they portray Myne, but people here are complaining why they turned the bird into a girl. I mean, really?

It's like people forgot what they are watching. This is Iskekai series where there is bunch of girls roaming around, not for the MC himself, but to hook up those otakus with "Muh waifus" aspect of the series.


Interestingly enough I've seen plenty of criticism that holds up to what the show has been presenting us so far.

In my opinion the comical depiction isn't exclusive to Episode 5 but all of the show thus far. The show really tries to make it a point that Naofumi is the victim here and that Myne & co are the badies. Shoving this constellation into our faces over and over makes it just feel forced and contrived.

I don't see the issue with people having a problem in regards to that. It comes down to what people are willing to put up with or even enjoy. If you and others are fine with a magical creature turning into a little girl for no conceivable reason so far then that's great, some would envy you for enjoying that so thoroughly but acknowledge that others don't want & cannot put up with stuff like this.

I'm not a fan of her turning into a little girl either cause as of now it feels like it's there solely to pander to its audience. That may change of course but we gotta work with what we have here & now.

Presentation & context is key. We all knew that there would be females around. It's anime, we've all been there. The issue people have with is how said females are presented, for what reasons and how they act towards Naofumi.
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For those who don't like harem be at ease since filo remains as a daughter figure to naofumi till the end of the series so she is not a harem member.
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People got triggered really fast.... I said this bird was cute as hell and they replaced it with Isekai type of shit (LOLI) ...doesnt matter if she is not part of harem or if she is bird most of the time..now she is a girl that can transform into cute bird....ALMOST EVERY ISEKAI HAS HAREM PARTS AND ANYONE WHO DENIES IT IS AN IDIOT...this anime is great i love it but why the fuck does it have to have 3-4 chicks (no pun intended)??? It doesn't and no matter if none of them likes the MC it's still a harem and will for sure have "some harem type scenes"....

I would have prefered this not to be with bucnh of girls (which it will be) but i still hope this show does great and as great as it has already done
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Devil_Slayer said:
People complain when the show victimize Naofumi too much, but they will also complain when a laid-back comedic episode happen as well.

People ask for more cast > interduce a new girl > they complain it's a harem now.

You can't win with those guys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Ah.... this is exactly it. Go figure.
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In the past:
>Oh woah, that powerful sacred dragon is a loli and I can recruit her to my party



Now:
>Oh shit, why that beast need to turn into a loli? That anime is ruined, RUINED!!!!




I don't even...
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In my opinion the comical depiction isn't exclusive to Episode 5 but all of the show thus far. The show really tries to make it a point that Naofumi is the victim here and that Myne & co are the badies. Shoving this constellation into our faces over and over makes it just feel forced and contrived.

The obvious premise of the show is to make the villians as annoying as possible so that Naofumi getting back at them is satisfying as possible. It's cheap emotional manipulation in place of interesting characters or plot.
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We ALMOST had a Chika level cuteness( anime not manga) with Filo and the harem part of isekai RUINED IT!!!! DAMN YOU ISEKAI!!









Still like the show tho but damn was i disapointed, hope it doesnt ruin the dynamic
oh god another one of these comments

This series is not a harem and Naofumi does not have any vulgar thoughts of his companions nor does he want to fuck them. He sees Raphtalia as more of a sister, Firo as more of a daughter. As for the later side characters that joins his party,
So no, this is no harem. And Firo is a bird, so don't compare her to Chika. Chika is on a whole other level of... uniqueness.

Edit: added spoiler tags just in case


Well I can't wait to meet those two other members. will they be in this season, or will I have to read the light novel
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People got triggered really fast.... I said this bird was cute as hell and they replaced it with Isekai type of shit (LOLI) ...doesnt matter if she is not part of harem or if she is bird most of the time..now she is a girl that can transform into cute bird....ALMOST EVERY ISEKAI HAS HAREM PARTS AND ANYONE WHO DENIES IT IS AN IDIOT...this anime is great i love it but why the fuck does it have to have 3-4 chicks (no pun intended)??? It doesn't and no matter if none of them likes the MC it's still a harem and will for sure have "some harem type scenes"....

I would have prefered this not to be with bucnh of girls (which it will be) but i still hope this show does great and as great as it has already done


if you insult the other people for their opinions(especially in such an agressive way), they're VERY likely to close their minds off to your arguments, not trying to condescend, but it's something to keep in mind. you do have a point, every modern Isekai will probably have some element of Harem, similar to how a lot of Shonen have some element of harem.
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It was ruined from the start, though...
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Bronos23 said:
People got triggered really fast.... I said this bird was cute as hell and they replaced it with Isekai type of shit (LOLI) ...doesnt matter if she is not part of harem or if she is bird most of the time..now she is a girl that can transform into cute bird....ALMOST EVERY ISEKAI HAS HAREM PARTS AND ANYONE WHO DENIES IT IS AN IDIOT...this anime is great i love it but why the fuck does it have to have 3-4 chicks (no pun intended)??? It doesn't and no matter if none of them likes the MC it's still a harem and will for sure have "some harem type scenes"....

I would have prefered this not to be with bucnh of girls (which it will be) but i still hope this show does great and as great as it has already done


if you insult the other people for their opinions(especially in such an agressive way), they're VERY likely to close their minds off to your arguments, not trying to condescend, but it's something to keep in mind. you do have a point, every modern Isekai will probably have some element of Harem, similar to how a lot of Shonen have some element of harem.
My dude...my comment is first in this discussion and tell me please where have i insulted anyone
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Bronos23 said:
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if you insult the other people for their opinions(especially in such an agressive way), they're VERY likely to close their minds off to your arguments, not trying to condescend, but it's something to keep in mind. you do have a point, every modern Isekai will probably have some element of Harem, similar to how a lot of Shonen have some element of harem.
My dude...my comment is first in this discussion and tell me please where have i insulted anyone


When you said "ANYONE WHO DENIES IT IS AN IDIOT"
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