Why is Steins;Gate 0 so bad?

IdleSolution said:
I rewatched the old steins gate and I realized how many flaws it has, its not that good of a show. I dont know why, but I haven't noticed it at first. All of the characters, except Okabe, are trash and it was boring at times. Maybe you just realized that when watching the sequel. I haven't watched 0 yet so can't really tell

Silverstorm92 said:


There is no "flaws" at all if you play VN. You find "flaws" cos you don't understand something lmao. Play VN and all "flaws" will disappear

IdleSolution said:


By flaw I meant stuff like trash characters

ManAndJerry said:
This is supposed to be more depressing, it’s not supposed to feel invigorating like the previous series.

cropsini said:
Steins;Gate 0 is one of my biggest disappointments in my life.
I'm huge fan of the S;G, It is my favorite show, i watched it about 4-5 times and played the VN.
Since the very beggining i was feeling that something is wrong. I didn't feel Steins;Gate vibe. I hoped it might get good later, but what i encountered is crap animation, cringe humour, shitload of useless characters.
One and the only one good episode which i loved is ep8 which was perfect.
BUT.
Everything other is just horrible.

Story is dull, literally nothing interesting, "thrilling secrets" which are obvious about 5 episodes before any character realises it. Shitload of things that was super unnecessary. Some wierd decisions and ultrapoor scenography (I'm looking at you, roof scenes.
I feel like i am watching some seasonal crap with 6.5 score.
This anime is jumping from one thread to another, it feels kinda pushedn and not fluid.
Cutting head with one's hands? Is it some crappy edgy shit like mirai nikki?
Pacing is wierd. I feel like everything is slow, but individual threads are rushed.

Animation is bad. It is much worse than original. Sometimes even the protagonist in the foreground look more like a potato than a human. The worst thing are fight scenes where Suzu jumps in the middle of an army and it turns out there are Stormtroopers, or guys who cant even shoot. It was horrible as hell.

Characters may be the worst part beside the story
Okabe became superflat, mayushi is completly changed, they even managed to fuck up the platonic love beetwen them established in original. there is shitload of characters that did absolutely nothing, they just were there. Maho is quite ok-written. I like Leskinen also

Music is also bad, i prefered S;G music much more. It is kinda bad

4/10, i think it is still too high because of the attachment to S;G

What is your opinion?

Silverstorm92 said:

My rank:
S;G VN = S;G 0 VN: 100/10
S;G Anime: 10/10

xILukasIx said:


That's such a weak argument to make.
You're only proving his point, the anime isn't a good adaptation if you need to check the source to make its flaws disappear.

xILukasIx said:


That's such a weak argument to make.
You're only proving his point, the anime isn't a good adaptation if you need to check the source to make its flaws disappear.

Mohammadalmannai said:


Wtf was the flaws argument?
The VN had more flaws than the anime.
The anime is not bad, it just compliments the original anime.

Nurguburu said:
In spite of some bad actions scenes and that the twists are more predictable, is a good show.

Crowmance said:
ah ill make my answer short

play the VN

Mormegil said:
I don't think it's bad, but it's definitely disappointing compared to the original. The first episodes of Steins;Gate 0 held a lot of promise, but it didn't live up to my expectations.

I mean, isn't this supposed to be the story of the badass future Okabe from the original episode 23? You know, the one who gives present day Okabe a video call? He seemed so badass and cool there. I REALLY wanted to know his story, but he's basically just been mopey this entire series. Not much different from the original Okabe. I thought he was going to be more hard-edged and experienced.

Mormegil said:
I don't think it's bad, but it's definitely disappointing compared to the original. The first episodes of Steins;Gate 0 held a lot of promise, but it didn't live up to my expectations.

I mean, isn't this supposed to be the story of the badass future Okabe from the original episode 23? You know, the one who gives present day Okabe a video call? He seemed so badass and cool there. I REALLY wanted to know his story, but he's basically just been mopey this entire series. Not much different from the original Okabe. I thought he was going to be more hard-edged and experienced.

Mormegil said:
I don't think it's bad, but it's definitely disappointing compared to the original. The first episodes of Steins;Gate 0 held a lot of promise, but it didn't live up to my expectations.

I mean, isn't this supposed to be the story of the badass future Okabe from the original episode 23? You know, the one who gives present day Okabe a video call? He seemed so badass and cool there. I REALLY wanted to know his story, but he's basically just been mopey this entire series. Not much different from the original Okabe. I thought he was going to be more hard-edged and experienced.

Hokkyoku-no said:
I'm kinda upset after reading all what is post here.All of you are looking for kurisu,mad scientist and say that the sound is terrible.
Do you even watch the OG Steins;Gate?
Are you seriously looking for kurisu in S;G 0?
Are you seriously looking for Mad Scientist in S;G 0?
I know that we all know the reason why kurisu is not shown because she is dead and it's obvious that she will not be shown in the anime except in amadeus form.Mad Scientist is gone because remember that after making his resolution in abandoning kurisu and going to beta world line she was asked by suzuha to time travel with him and that results in knowing that he killed kurisu.
Now tell me if you are in the shoes of Okabe will you be jolly?
Will you still retain your chuunibyou shenanigans?
The answer is obviously no.
And the reason People are disappointed in S;G 0 is because they are looking at what OG Steins Gate makes a good anime in S;G 0.May I remind you all that this is S;G 0 not the OG S:G.
Yes I agree with you all that the action scene is bad
Yes I agree with you all that the animation is kinda bad
Yes I agree with you all that the music is kinda repetitive
But the story and the characters are still up to par in the OG S;G and we can clearly see that in episode 20 and 21(and i assume the 22 and 23) is and will have a good animation and music and in the future will redeem itself.So other than what I say at the above, I can't see why you call S;G 0 to be a terrible anime.

Katsugu said:


AKA you hate the slice of life, what do you expect from a story about okabe's life literally, dude do you even know 0's plot?
no one really minds the slow start if he enjoyed it, It was really natural to see amadeus like this. in my side i enjoyed amadeus's random crap, its writing is really good for her condition in the story, the only point i agree with you that 0 didn't REALLY care about the side new characters Fubuki-Kaede-Reyes but still has some role in the story somehow, the plot isn't about them but still it would be better if we had more time with them, the Actual Plot and points of 0 started in episode 16, and it was introduced greatly, all the episodes besides ep 18 were so great
the real statements of 0 are
Fighting scene's logic in episode 17-18 were terrible
We needed more useful focusing on the other side characters
Some scenes could be better comparing how they were in the vn
The darkness of the anime could be much more, but mostly the director didn't want to add more darkness atmosphere as it was in the vn, basically for TV+ PG-13 purposes, but adding it would make the Slice of life more depressing and enjoyable.
Ending 2 literally
but all of these makes the anime most likely an 8, but if we get a perfect ending it could be a 9

Katsugu said:


I enjoyed the Slice of Life of 0. Amadeus itself make the concept good, the random talking of her is just very natural to see, which means for sure it won't improve the concept. i agree that it had some idea, it was already delivered but didn't have the supposed focusing, so we missed it, because there's a chapter named Twin Automata in the vn, it has the ideas and goals, the anime adapted some important lines in it, but never focused on it so we felt like it didn't exist

Katsugu said:


Actually Amadeus isn't the real concept, even in the vn, the concept here is the whole future of Beta and how it connects with the plot and how it makes okabe reaches Steins Gate's world line in the OG, so this thing has a lot of things to support it, one of them is Amadeus simply, what the anime really wants to reach is how okabe reaches SG WL as i said, so by this the anime focused on Okabe's thoughts and acts after the tragedy, until the re awake of Kyouma which leads us to the original Steins;Gate, we'll see how this works in the last episodes, what i meant here is Amadeus has no place in this concept except it just makes okabe suffer more and builds up the plot to reach 7/7 (the day of tanabata which is the plot of 0 exactly)

Katsugu said:


Play the vn, i promise you that you'll enjoy it a lot, the anime didn't go anywhere wrong, but instead it adapted a lot of things greatly, but the wrong thing in it that some points needed to get more focusing and the director got a lot of chances to improve the anime, but he missed a lot of them, but also just btw episode 8 70% from it is Absolutely original from the director, alongside with a lot of great scenes in the anime which they weren't in the vn, imo if the anime was named Arc-light here we'll need the thrilling shit, because everything about how they reached SG WL was explained in it, but in 0 we got more info about it and the whole life of okabe, so the thrilling isn't needed in 0 until the events of arc-light, which is from the beginning of episode 16, Arc-light is Drama CDs to explain what happened in Beta in conclusion and released in 2010, 0 released to explain more how everything went like this, so it added more story to Arc-light, aka amadeus and Kagari's whole story, the anime currently is adapting Arc-light alongside with the way to the True Ending, which explains everything, so imo the slice of life was pretty good in the anime with the mystery of kagari was pretty good in the first episodes, i hope they won't mess it up, this is the last hope of the anime

xZabuzax said:

Hopefully I can enjoy this better in the VN.

Aquamirror said:

Don't get your hopes up, sad to say, but the VN suffers pretty much from the same faults, although in a slightly different form. Even if things are lacking here, the anime still did a great job at adapting the source material given it's complexity, and still managed to fix some fuck ups from there... At this point, I wish they went even further into adding original content as the best episodes were mostly anime original. Some episodes felt disjointed without the proper setup from the VN and with the changes to the story in the later part of the the anime they were left somehow unimportant.
Of course, there were other good scenes from the VN that didn't make it that could have explained more in depth some of the plot points, but still I don't feel like your opinion on the story would change much as it's fundamentally the same.

cropsini said:
Steins;Gate 0 is one of my biggest disappointments in my life.


What is your opinion?

AniMEHLover said:
It is horrible and hot garbage compared to Season 1

2/10 as of Ep. 21

Akattee99 said:

I think episode 21 was actualy very good and it deservs at least 8/10 rating

gswelcome said:
Only watched through ep 16 atm but yeah... disappointing is the word for it. Lack of Christina and, you know, time travel. Also seeing Okabe be depressed through the whole show isn't as fun as his mad scientist persona.

Jiharo said:
To all people who complained no Kyouma and Kurisu, I suggest you to take a look at S;G 0's plot again lol.

While the anime isn't perfect, it's above average at least. Though not as good as the source material, it still manages to be decent at least. Sure, it isn't as great as the original, if you complain about the plot setting, pacing and what not, sure, it's anyone's game since everyone have different taste and preference but to complain it is bad JUST BECAUSE it doesn't have Kyouma and Kurisu/an emo Rintarou, I suggest you guys to open your eyes and read the plot. It is ridiculous to expect the same thing because in the first place, the whole plot is almost a 180 degree turn from the original.

That being said, I did enjoy the adaptation. Though not as much as the original but it did well enough for something that isn't easy to adapt(many VN adaptation ends up pretty damn shit because of the complexity of the medium).

So yea. Everyone is free to dislike something about the series but if your dislike is simply just because there's no Kyouma and Kurisu, then you have a problem there because it seems like you don't even understand what are you watching.

xZabuzax said:


Here we go again with that crap, I'm not even going to repeat what I just said because I repeated it a lot already but if you think that we are complaining ONLY because of the lack of Kurisu and Kyouma then you are mistaken.

FlareKnight said:

I can get behind the idea of a what-if scenario or that it makes sense how Okabe fell apart.

SheevPalpatine said:


But 0 isn't a "what-if scenario". It shows what originally happened with Okabe.