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Raz1515 said: Wait so his father was alive afterall? Whose father??? If you're talking about Dr. Kazama, Keith's father, he's dead. I don't think the old man at the end is him at all. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: kikusan said: Whose father??? If you're talking about Dr. Kazama, Keith's father, he's dead. I don't think the old man at the end is him at all. So far only the voices match, more or less. I personally think it is the king himself, but we obviously have to wait for the next season to know for sure. But isn't Koku the King? Kirisame and the others called him their "King". I don't think that old man could be a King as well since Koku's still alive (and Yuna too, sadly. Her being alive was such a let down, it ruined all the drama of the story). |
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Daniel_Naumov said: kikusan said: But isn't Koku the King? Kirisame and the others called him their "King". I don't think that old man could be a King as well since Koku's still alive (and Yuna too, sadly. Her being alive was such a let down, it ruined all the drama of the story). Boy. as a king I meant the king of the country, the monarch and the scum who has been ordering Market Maker around for some time now. It basically does not matter anymore whether they die or not, others can "revive" them again since Keith managed to translate the Scripture. As long as they have access to Keith and the technology, they would revive either Koku or Yuna, they would begin anew as children though. So it is better for them to stay alive. Lmao sorry. It's not impossible since they said the monarchy was deeply involved in the research made to revive the two Gods. |
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| All in All a fun and interesting watch, that dragged at times as well as got too complex for it's own good at times, but I still had a great time watching it. Also Bran as the comedic relief throughout the show, when he wasn't in a coma, was absolutely great |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| I enjoyed every single second of it. The only thing is that I would have liked to see more of Yuna. |
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| That was meh. The royal police bits were entertaining but I could not give a shit about koku, his useless waifu yuna or the other market maker mofos; they were only entertaining early on while fighting because of the animation not being a bunch of DBS gif loop punches/kicks. If there's a season 2 no koku, no yuna, just the RIS guys. |
| 2nd season, perhaps? |
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| best ED of the season, hands down. |
| It was an okay watch. I understood everything up until episode 10. From there on everything got way too complicated. The show never answered any shallow but meaningful questions such as: Was Gilbert Regulus (though I’m sure it was implied, but still)? Koku and Yuna are a pair, but there wasn’t enough coverage about that topic? Why did Koku’s eye turn red, is it due to his bloody rage? What were Minatsuki and Gilbert really planning to do (though I know both of them have their own respective goals)? I could ask a bunch plot hole questions that show just how this series handled its closure; I was unsatisfied. The dialogue isn’t direct which is good sometimes but it shouldn’t be implied if crucial info is being explained. Pretty much shows that the series wants you to think critically about what’s happening. Nonetheless, the soundtrack was great and the animation was unique. It’s a 7.5 for me. |
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kikusan said: I honestly believe it's Kieth's father. Not only are the voices the same but during the institute flashback, kirisame and him were apparently close and always together, like they were planning something. I don't think the King would deal with him casually like that at the endDaniel_Naumov said: Boy. as a king I meant the king of the country, the monarch and the scum who has been ordering Market Maker around for some time now. It basically does not matter anymore whether they die or not, others can "revive" them again since Keith managed to translate the Scripture. As long as they have access to Keith and the technology, they would revive either Koku or Yuna, they would begin anew as children though. So it is better for them to stay alive. Lmao sorry. It's not impossible since they said the monarchy was deeply involved in the research made to revive the two Gods. |
Daniel_Naumov said: true but them not showing his face makes me think it's someone we know cause why cover him if we haven't seen him before? Lol idk maybe I'm just overthinking haha and his wrinkles are the same too lmaoAgain, you could be right, but at this point its nothing but speculation. We can find fault with how Koku can hear Kirisame in himself after absorbing his arm, but then Kirisame is standing without his arm and wants to get it back, which makes next to 0 sense. |
Raz1515 said: kikusan said: I honestly believe it's Kieth's father. Not only are the voices the same but during the institute flashback, kirisame and him were apparently close and always together, like they were planning something. I don't think the King would deal with him casually like that at the endLmao sorry. It's not impossible since they said the monarchy was deeply involved in the research made to revive the two Gods. I agree about the king because they never really talked about him so bringing now feels kind of weird..? Yes Dr. Kazama and Kirisame got along well but not to the point of suspecting that they were plotting something together imo, it's just that Dr. Kazama really wanted to protect Koku and made Kirisame his accomplice in helping him escape, that's all. |
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kikusan said: so who do you think it mignt be then?Raz1515 said: I honestly believe it's Kieth's father. Not only are the voices the same but during the institute flashback, kirisame and him were apparently close and always together, like they were planning something. I don't think the King would deal with him casually like that at the end I agree about the king because they never really talked about him so bringing now feels kind of weird..? Yes Dr. Kazama and Kirisame got along well but not to the point of suspecting that they were plotting something together imo, it's just that Dr. Kazama really wanted to protect Koku and made Kirisame his accomplice in helping him escape, that's all. |
Raz1515 said: kikusan said: so who do you think it mignt be then?I agree about the king because they never really talked about him so bringing now feels kind of weird..? Yes Dr. Kazama and Kirisame got along well but not to the point of suspecting that they were plotting something together imo, it's just that Dr. Kazama really wanted to protect Koku and made Kirisame his accomplice in helping him escape, that's all. Raz1515 said: Either its the monarch, Kazama Keith or a third person we have not see yet. Or worse it might be Kazama Keith but only physically, who knows what they did to him in those 10 years. Seeing how they created the Reggies etc it could totally be Dr. Kazama but without being the Dr. Kazama we know, yes. Munatsuki and Koku are able to brainwash people so why not. I'd vote for this theory tbh. |
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RubenGallar said: I enjoyed every single second of it. The only thing is that I would have liked to see more of Yuna. Yep, a great watch. The beautiful, silver haired Minatsuki was my favorite main squeeze.  So cold, so evil, so super sexy, so yummy, so DEAD! I want him revived to live, love, kill another day! |
| I had mixed feelings on this show overall but found it watchable and somewhat entertaining thriller. While I like the ideas of it, I didn't find the majority of the character appealing and their characterization didn't impress me much. Also too much emphasis on Yuna on some of the later episodes. It took me 4 days to marathon this since I wasn't really hooked in the beginning but some of the mid episodes drew a lot of my attention in. On the technical front, I really enjoyed the music in particular the theme songs. The character designs also stood out for me with the maturity. 6/10. |
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| Decent show, I thought it was okay. The plot was a bit all over the place but it was cool. Also some absolutely beautiful animation. |
AkaiKyouma said: Nice show. I hope it gets a second season. By the way, they should add other genres, not only sci-fi. Action, mystery, maybe thriller... Just "Sci-fi" doesn't say anything. I just finished and the after credit scene was a big cliffhanger wtf It legit is inciting a season 2, hopefully it gets lots of attention despite being Netflix. |
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| Don't tell me they didn't have budget to show what happen to Koku and Yuna in the end lol. Anyway this is a solid 8/10 show for me. Great ride. |
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| I liked the anime quite a lot, but the whole Koku x Useless puppet girl story just seemed pretty out of place and kinda... pointless? Like, it seemed slightly related to the other story in the beginning, but they split it too much and it just became two independent stories, and to be honest, that one was pissing me off. The animation was beautiful, and I liked Koku's character in the beginning, but then it turned out to be a major disappointment. And the pink-haired girl was just completely useless. Honestly. Why do pathetic sidekicks like her even get created nowadays. She could of been so much more. She seemed capable and strong, but in the end, all she ever did was cry and act like a puppet. That disappointed me the most. I would of given this anime a solid 10 if it had not been for that weak character, and how their story was so disconnected to the other one in the end. |
| Well quite enjoyed the show , at least it gives a good thrilling sensation for me , good way to kill some times i guess , now back to studying |
Daniel_Naumov said: Curse- said: Unoriginal in every facet, trope-filled, predictable Means they did proper work on symbolism and with caution proceeded as they were creating true art. It is good you understand those parallels and those story shaping elements, it means you are experienced. Too bad you are uncultured enough to be unable to acknowledge a virtue when you fathom one. Meaningless, everexpanding thirst for "surprises" is some sort of mental illness or something this age, why so many get affected... Bewildering. alphaAngel said: I liked the anime quite a lot, but the whole Koku x Useless puppet girl story just seemed pretty out of place and kinda... pointless? Like, it seemed slightly related to the other story in the beginning, but they split it too much and it just became two independent stories, and to be honest, that one was pissing me off. The animation was beautiful, and I liked Koku's character in the beginning, but then it turned out to be a major disappointment. And the pink-haired girl was just completely useless. Honestly. Why do pathetic sidekicks like her even get created nowadays. She could of been so much more. She seemed capable and strong, but in the end, all she ever did was cry and act like a puppet. That disappointed me the most. I would of given this anime a solid 10 if it had not been for that weak character, and how their story was so disconnected to the other one in the end. I am sorry but this is an attack on the setting where you completely fail to understand what the setting is. Forget the philosophy questions, you are obviously beyond them as of your mental development, currently. Yuna's and Koku's story is that of love. If you do not understand this, or for some reason felt angry of them because they were able to feel one, then I can only express my condolences. No need to further the wound. It was rushed and messy. If we had gotten some sort of mental connection to the characters prior, it would of been a nice story, but we didn't. It just instantly started with him looking for her like a hopeless puppy looking for its mother. "Where's Yuna??" "Where is Yuna?!" "Where is she??!!" Just shut up already. Love? Pretty pathetic display, if you ask me. You're just salty someone didn't enjoy that messy display of "love" as much as you did. Yuna was pathetic throughout the entire show, and she is the one I'm bashing. Koku was fine, for the most part. I'm complaining about Yuna's character concept and how useless she was, even though she was so capable. You're the one who fails to see how poorly portrayed and disconnected it was to the other story, and how rushed their ending was. You're probably the kind of person who finds any cheesy, shitty love-story enjoyable because you lack that in your own life. Sucks to be you, not being able to distinguish quality love stories from poorly written ones. :) |
alphaAngel said: Daniel_Naumov said: Means they did proper work on symbolism and with caution proceeded as they were creating true art. It is good you understand those parallels and those story shaping elements, it means you are experienced. Too bad you are uncultured enough to be unable to acknowledge a virtue when you fathom one. Meaningless, everexpanding thirst for "surprises" is some sort of mental illness or something this age, why so many get affected... Bewildering. I am sorry but this is an attack on the setting where you completely fail to understand what the setting is. Forget the philosophy questions, you are obviously beyond them as of your mental development, currently. Yuna's and Koku's story is that of love. If you do not understand this, or for some reason felt angry of them because they were able to feel one, then I can only express my condolences. No need to further the wound. It was rushed and messy. If we had gotten some sort of mental connection to the characters prior, it would of been a nice story, but we didn't. It just instantly started with him looking for her like a hopeless puppy looking for its mother. "Where's Yuna??" "Where is Yuna?!" "Where is she??!!" Just shut up already. Love? Pretty pathetic display, if you ask me. You're just salty someone didn't enjoy that messy display of "love" as much as you did. Yuna was pathetic throughout the entire show, and she is the one I'm bashing. Koku was fine, for the most part. I'm complaining about Yuna's character concept and how useless she was, even though she was so capable. You're the one who fails to see how poorly portrayed and disconnected it was to the other story, and how rushed their ending was. You're probably the kind of person who finds any cheesy, shitty love-story enjoyable because you lack that in your own life. Sucks to be you, not being able to distinguish quality love stories from poorly written ones. :) Yuna and Koku's story just became like a short break from the intense, main story. Like a commercial break. |
alphaAngel said: alphaAngel said: It was rushed and messy. If we had gotten some sort of mental connection to the characters prior, it would of been a nice story, but we didn't. It just instantly started with him looking for her like a hopeless puppy looking for its mother. "Where's Yuna??" "Where is Yuna?!" "Where is she??!!" Just shut up already. Love? Pretty pathetic display, if you ask me. You're just salty someone didn't enjoy that messy display of "love" as much as you did. Yuna was pathetic throughout the entire show, and she is the one I'm bashing. Koku was fine, for the most part. I'm complaining about Yuna's character concept and how useless she was, even though she was so capable. You're the one who fails to see how poorly portrayed and disconnected it was to the other story, and how rushed their ending was. You're probably the kind of person who finds any cheesy, shitty love-story enjoyable because you lack that in your own life. Sucks to be you, not being able to distinguish quality love stories from poorly written ones. :) Yuna and Koku's story just became like a short break from the intense, main story. Like a commercial break. I fully agree, Yuna and Koku's story was set as polar opposite to the murder mystery between Keith and the doctor. Though I did wish Yuna fought back or plotted something to meet Koku instead of being just a damsel in distress after regaining her memories. |
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HalAnime said: alphaAngel said: Yuna and Koku's story just became like a short break from the intense, main story. Like a commercial break. I fully agree, Yuna and Koku's story was set as polar opposite to the murder mystery between Keith and the doctor. Though I did wish Yuna fought back or plotted something to meet Koku instead of being just a damsel in distress after regaining her memories. That is what annoyed me the most. We had already seen how strong Yuna actually is, so how come after fighting Koku, not once did she display that strength again? She just took all the beating and abuse while shedding a couple of tears and overall being emotionless and useless. Such a promising character who got wasted away for some reason.. I don't understand why, after showing us how independent and tough she is, they completely changed her concept and made her worthless. They even had such a good build up for it. They showed how people kinda had an underlying fear of her and didn't push her boundaries, and so on. Meh. |
Daniel_Naumov said: HalAnime said: I fully agree, Yuna and Koku's story was set as polar opposite to the murder mystery between Keith and the doctor. Though I did wish Yuna fought back or plotted something to meet Koku instead of being just a damsel in distress after regaining her memories. Well, good thing decent creators do not cater to "dominating female character" fantasies most viewers seem to posses this age, I guess. Decent creators? You mean pitiful creators. The anime world needs more strong. tough female characters. There's already an overflowing market filled with pathetic, overused weak female girls who can't do anything for themselves and need to be rescued. You're living in 2018, buddy. Ain't nobody got time for that weak, damsel in distress shit. Give me a quality female character I can support and root for. |
alphaAngel said: Daniel_Naumov said: Well, good thing decent creators do not cater to "dominating female character" fantasies most viewers seem to posses this age, I guess. Decent creators? You mean pitiful creators. The anime world needs more strong. tough female characters. There's already an overflowing market filled with pathetic, overused weak female girls who can't do anything for themselves and need to be rescued. You're living in 2018, buddy. Ain't nobody got time for that weak, damsel in distress shit. Give me a quality female character I can support and root for. I think for this, Lily was expected to be the carry which I sort of think she is for being such a headstrong female lead. There seems to be a lot more weak Male MCs in anime or atleast start out weak then grow compared to having weak female leads. I mean we got Ghost in the Shell portraying strong female leads really early on in anime history. |
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HalAnime said: alphaAngel said: Decent creators? You mean pitiful creators. The anime world needs more strong. tough female characters. There's already an overflowing market filled with pathetic, overused weak female girls who can't do anything for themselves and need to be rescued. You're living in 2018, buddy. Ain't nobody got time for that weak, damsel in distress shit. Give me a quality female character I can support and root for. I think for this, Lily was expected to be the carry which I sort of think she is for being such a headstrong female lead. There seems to be a lot more weak Male MCs in anime or atleast start out weak then grow compared to having weak female leads. I mean we got Ghost in the Shell portraying strong female leads really early on in anime history. I haven't seen that anime, unfortunately. Maybe I just choose the wrong animes to depend on for a strong female lead, or maybe I just haven't found an anime with one yet. Are there any animes that have a perfect, overpowered female lead without/almost no flaws? Cause there are a lot of male leads that are designed that way. |
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