| I've looked through a lot of profiles here and there seem to be many women, which is really surprising considering that Japan's sexist views reduce them to mere fanservice material in 90% of anime shows. So, unless the "female" users are males who fake to be a girl to get attention like what happens in online games, i can't really explain how could any woman align with something that is mainly directed to straight males and leaves barely any space for them. There are some good examples of female characters and shows done right when it comes to representation, but what about all the rest? It seems like anime is going backwards when it comes to catering to the female viewers, who sadly have to leave space for the overabundant male pandering. Sadly, even tho the female characters are many and more tha the male ones by sheer numbers and get more screen time, they always become mere subjects of pantyshots and the clichè "oh my god i fell over you and grabbed your boob don't slap me" kind of gross objectification. So, my question is: what makes women watch anime :/ ? i would be really glad if i got some insight by their part, i am doing a research/survey about this. PS: i lost my old account but it didn't have many anime in the list anyway, so i made a new one since it's not that big of a loss. |
ValiaaantMar 4, 2018 5:52 AM
| Aren't you the one turning women into objects when you pretend to be some fag boi wearing female clothes and using lipstick to grope buff dudes' asses? |
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| You gonna need some better bait than this fam. |
when ur about to have a refreshing sip of earl grey tea and someone says "traps are gay" |
| Hey OP a little question for you, do you know what fujoshi is ? The answer is actually what you're looking for. |
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| Most women do enjoy getting treated badly. Why else would they like bad boys and rough dominant men. |
| Maybe, just maybe, they know of something other than the sloppiest fanservice shows. Or you're not actually correct in your assumptions. |
Menzo- said: You gonna need some better bait than this fam. I think you are just scared that someone may question the status quo. Swagernator said: Hey OP a little question for you, do you know what fujoshi is ? The answer is actually what you're looking for. Yeah, i know, but it's still a minority. |
| It's funny that you lost your prev account due to these cheapass baits |
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well this is just a shitpost but Ill answer with legit answers because hey I'm bored right now anyway  Now first have you watched 100% of all anime to know its 99%? Second because anime caters towards women's desires as well |
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| What is this even supposed to bait? I'm confused. Also: I'm female and like dem anime tiddies. |
  爆ぜろリアル！ 弾けろシナプス！ バニッシュメント・ディス・ワールド ! |
| @EcchiKnightDarek Again, a male speaking for someone else. And, no, i just genuinely like the show and like the character enough to use it instead of some generic anime character. Is it not allowed? |
@Valiaaant Im not speaking for them. Its just an objective fact  |
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Valiaaant said: Menzo- said: You gonna need some better bait than this fam. I think you are just scared that someone may question the status quo. Lol, yeah. I don't even agree with this nonsense that you're spouting. Anime is no worse than Hollywood when it comes to objectifying women, I'd say it's actually far better. I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 99% of women in anime being purely for fanservice, but it's complete horseshit. You see considerably more female MCs in anime than you do in Hollywood, and majority of them are treated as humans and not objects. |
when ur about to have a refreshing sip of earl grey tea and someone says "traps are gay" |
Valiaaant said: Yeah, i know, but it's still a minority. Minority you say ... yeah right if you think fujoshi fanbase is minority i leave you think that. |
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[citation needed] Menzo- said: Lol, yeah. I don't even agree with this nonsense that you're spouting. Anime is no worse than Hollywood when it comes to objectifying women, I'd say it's actually far better. I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 99% of women in anime being purely for fanservice, but it's complete horseshit. You see considerably more female MCs in anime than you do in Hollywood, and majority of them are treated as humans and not objects. I think you need to bring some examples to the table in that case, i can post countless when it comes to anime by just doing a mere 3 minutes search, can you do the same about your claim regarding hollywood movies? |
| Lol nice edit to try and save face. Now please fuck off. |
| Women watch aaaanime for shounens. |
| @EcchiKnightDarek Yeah, just sweep everything that you find uncomfortable under the rug, that always works right? |
Edit? Oh yeah, i modified from 99 to 90, my mistake. |
That's where you are wrong again, it would be better to edit to 10% then everyone might take you seriously Deknijff said: well this is just a shitpost but Ill answer with legit answers because hey I'm bored right now anyway Now first have you watched 100% of all anime to know its 99%? Second because anime caters towards women's desires as well It's funny that you are arguing about stupid shit lol and the fact that he is an ignorant |
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Menzo- said: Lol, yeah. I don't even agree with this nonsense that you're spouting. Anime is no worse than Hollywood when it comes to objectifying women, I'd say it's actually far better. ok just not even close to being true. Anime is far, far, far worse when it comes to objectifying women. There's a reason that a lot of non anime watchers assume that anime is porn. |
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Valiaaant said: Menzo- said: You gonna need some better bait than this fam. I think you are just scared that someone may question the status quo. Swagernator said: Hey OP a little question for you, do you know what fujoshi is ? The answer is actually what you're looking for. Yeah, i know, but it's still a minority. Wow, man. Do your research. We live in a time where anime will only sell if there's fujoshi bait in it. They keep the industry going. |
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| Put some effort in your baiting next time. |
| @ZSTGL_IMA 10% sound ridiculously low, i think you are just upset that someone come with this argument all of the sudden.     I can go on for days when it comes to this. |
| lmao 1000/10 bait i couldnt come up with something so good even if i tried so op did you ever watch a shoujo anime? |
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Come on, read my thread until the end, i just wanted to have a discussion, i need some opinions to fill up my research. |
Valiaaant said: Menzo- said: Lol, yeah. I don't even agree with this nonsense that you're spouting. Anime is no worse than Hollywood when it comes to objectifying women, I'd say it's actually far better. I don't know how you came to the conclusion of 99% of women in anime being purely for fanservice, but it's complete horseshit. You see considerably more female MCs in anime than you do in Hollywood, and majority of them are treated as humans and not objects. I think you need to bring some examples to the table in that case, i can post countless when it comes to anime by just doing a mere 3 minutes search, can you do the same about your claim regarding hollywood movies? You can literally just look at the latest season, majority of the shows have a female (or multiple) in the front spot, and most are just in regular non-revealing clothing. Go look at new hollywood releases, most have a male in the front spot and a female somewhere on the cover to show that they're progressive. |
when ur about to have a refreshing sip of earl grey tea and someone says "traps are gay" |
 Ouch, looks like i hit some people's weak spot?  |
Valiaaant said: Come on, read my thread until the end, i just wanted to have a discussion, i need some opinions to fill up my research. Well you've got your discussion alright. Also nice research/survey/work/whatever. And since I was ignored Ill say it again: I'm a girl. I like dem anime tiddies. Everyone likes tiddies. Done. |
爆ぜろリアル！ 弾けろシナプス！ バニッシュメント・ディス・ワールド ! |
| Sounds like you're speaking primarily of ecchi & harem anime which tend to pander towards the male audience. Your typical anime wont show panty-shots like its nothing. A example of female fanservice would be "Free!" which sexualize men a lot. Hell, even Kuroko no Basket has a large female audience. Ultimately the medium is dominated by men, hence why so much fanservice exist that "objectify" women. But that doesn't mean men aren't sexualized either |
| Interesting shitpost , please do continue to entertain me. |
If I am online it means I am not doing my maths homework. Plz don't tell my mom |
   Wahoo~ Time for terrible objectified men~ |
爆ぜろリアル！ 弾けろシナプス！ バニッシュメント・ディス・ワールド ! |
| Because people latch onto things that possess vaguely relatable aspects to them way too strongly and begin to view things like "female character" as a standing, walking, talking single entity that can be hoisted up to be representative of their entire gender, as if women were some kind of gestalt conciousness that can be whittled down into something so incredibly narrow as any given female anime character. Thus, when one gets sexualized, extremists like OP get uptight about it like this because they're incapable of recognizing the sheer absurdity of the situation and how black and white the stance they're taking on it is. It's all incredibly shallow and comes across a somewhat objectifying in of itself, ironically, given that it's rolling any character with a vagina up as a mouthpiece to stand representative for every female. Throw in the condescending, "you should be disgusted by this!" implications, the sheer amount of hyperbolic statements and numbers tossing, and outright dismissal of everything that goes against the narrative the OP is espousing, it just comes off as a meme that people can't take seriously. Which is sad, because people should look at this as an example of the stupid of the extreme left rather than dismissing it as a conspiracy alt-account to make all of feminism look bad. It should go without saying that yes, feminists have idiots like this person who are completely unironic in their thoughts. They're not some mythical creature you'll only ever people making fun of, they do exist. Would be like me dismissing everyone who posts blatantly white supremacist type stuff as just shitposting memers trying to piss people off and make right-wing nationalists look bad. Still just two political groups at the end of the day, and doing like so would be trying to shift the extremes and dismiss them as some sort of covert infiltrator rather than just shooting them the finger and pushing them into their own corner with a dunce hat in tow, as should be. Anyway, no, there's nothing wrong with sexualization and if you find it objectifying and disgusting or whatever thenstep down off of your moral grandstanding and just avert your eyes. You're never going to make it go away. People sexualize women all of the time. People sexualize men all of the time, too, all the goddamn time and it gets terribly understated in comparison for some reason. There's nothing wrong with doing things to boost sex appeal, and it'd probably be easier for you, anyone who takes extreme issue with this, as well as myself to just...not let it bother you so much. It's not a big deal. Of course, I fully expect nothing I wrote here to matter and that I'm just going to get a response along the lines of "how dare you speak for women?" judging by the OP's earlier responses, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is why I can't stand being around people who let their political views and ideologies permeate every aspect of their lives. |
ManabanMar 4, 2018 6:42 AM
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I've looked through a lot of profiles here and there seem to be many women, which is really surprising considering that Japan's sexist views reduce them to mere fanservice material in 99% of anime shows. 99% is a big exaggeration, massive one actually. There is plenty anime that does not sexualize women or if it does, it does so properly and treats them as more than just that. So there is definitely enough for women to enjoy. More than enough. So, my question is: what makes women watch anime :/ ? i would be really glad if i got some insight by their part, i am doing a research/survey about this. Some of them don't mind it, some actually like it. Not every girl is a feminazi, might be a surprise, some are actually smart enough to find shows that they like, which you seem not to be. Thanks @EcchiKnightDarek for addressing this. As a female I get that shit a lot so it's nice to see that there are people out there who actually think like that! |
Monster said: Sounds like you're speaking primarily of ecchi & harem anime which tend to pander towards the male audience. Your typical anime wont show panty-shots like its nothing It still does even if in minor quantity, tho.  Okay, let's do a thing: out of all the shows of winter 2018, which ones do not have any of that stuff in any quantity, way shape or form? Violet Evergarden Overlord II Darling in the FranXX Nanatsu no Taizai: Imashime no Fukkatsu Citrus Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san Poputepipikku Koi wa Ameagari no You ni Yuru Camp△ Kokkoku Beatless Fate/Extra: Last Encore Sora yori mo Tooi Basho Grancrest Senki Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card-hen Killing Bites Dagashi Kashi 2 Ryuuou no Oshigoto! Ito Junji: Collection Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 2 Gakuen Babysitters Gintama.: Shirogane no Tamashii-hen Toji no Miko Mitsuboshi Colors Miira no Kaikata Slow Start Ramen Daisuki Koizumi-san Hakumei to Mikochi Märchen Mädchen Takunomi. Gin no Guardian 2nd Season Sanrio Danshi Nanatsu no Bitoku Basilisk: Ouka Ninpouchou Yowamushi Pedal: Glory Line 25-sai no Joshikousei Zoku Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru Hakyuu Houshin Engi Dame x Prince Anime Caravan IDOLiSH7 Hug tto! Precure Ling Qi 2 Hataraku Onii-san! Kaijuu Girls: Ultra Kaijuu Gijinka Keikaku 2nd Season gdMen MamenekoInazma Delivery: Dougyousha Attack-hen |
| Wow, how original man, shit this thread is the Michael Jordan of shitpost.Well done boy , well done. |
| Dude some girls like ass and tiddies to. It's called being bisexual, or lesbian. |
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| Just because a female character is attractive, or her breasts are displayed prominently on screen, doesn't automatically make her objectified. Most decent anime series have many female characters with agency, who are capable of making decisions and exhibit control over their actions. Just because they may be hot and busty, they're still characters and aren't being objectified. Granted, there are plenty of anime (in the ecchi and harem genres in particular) that do resort to a certain level of objectification, but they're basically just intended as soft-core porn and not to be taken seriously anyway. Fanservice is just a thing in Japan (as most of the world), and it goes both ways. You've posted a number of examples of shounen females in this thread (Erza, Nami, etc.), but shounen series are generally a great example of equal-opportunity fanservice. The males in those shows have incredible ripped bodies and go around with no shirts on half the time. Shounen by nature are teenage male fantasy vehicles - they demonstrate unrealistic male body expectations and unrealistic female body expectations as things that teenage boys would fantasize about. Sure it's very superficial, but it goes both ways, and it's only objectification if a character's only purpose is their appearance or sexuality - that's not the case in those shows, as both male and female characters bring many qualities/personalities/growth to the table. |
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Valiaaant said: Monster said: Sounds like you're speaking primarily of ecchi & harem anime which tend to pander towards the male audience. Your typical anime wont show panty-shots like its nothing It still does even if in minor quantity, tho. Okay, let's do a thing: out of all the shows of winter 2018, which ones do not have any of that stuff in any quantity, way shape or form? You are getting out of your way boi! Thread's title is :"Why women watch anime?" I am sure you are well aware of the thread you created right? Yet it has turned into :"Lemme show you pictures of ecchi animes while I spit y'all for watching these shows" What's your point? Do you want to accuse and demonize men? Or do you want to get the opinion of women? |
| If I am online it means I am not doing my maths homework. Plz don't tell my mom |
| Because not all anime are like that. Yeah, I hate it when that happens since I hate perverted men (I know it's normal and I won't lash out on you guys but I still hate it). But not all anime are like that. Also, because I'm good at choosing anime that doesn't involve such things. |
 Help, I'm hooked into the Fate series (not all) and am obsessed with Shirou x Saber! Also, forever hoping for a ufotable remake of the Fate route! |
Valiaaant said: Monster said: Sounds like you're speaking primarily of ecchi & harem anime which tend to pander towards the male audience. Your typical anime wont show panty-shots like its nothing It still does even if in minor quantity, tho. Okay, let's do a thing: out of all the shows of winter 2018, which ones do not have any of that stuff in any quantity, way shape or form? Violet Evergarden Overlord II Darling in the FranXX Nanatsu no Taizai: Imashime no Fukkatsu Citrus Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san Poputepipikku Koi wa Ameagari no You ni Yuru Camp△ Kokkoku Beatless Fate/Extra: Last Encore Sora yori mo Tooi Basho Grancrest Senki Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card-hen Killing Bites Dagashi Kashi 2 Ryuuou no Oshigoto! Ito Junji: Collection Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan 2 Gakuen Babysitters Gintama.: Shirogane no Tamashii-hen Toji no Miko Mitsuboshi Colors Miira no Kaikata Slow Start Ramen Daisuki Koizumi-san Hakumei to Mikochi Märchen Mädchen Takunomi. Gin no Guardian 2nd Season Sanrio Danshi Nanatsu no Bitoku Basilisk: Ouka Ninpouchou Yowamushi Pedal: Glory Line 25-sai no Joshikousei Zoku Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru Hakyuu Houshin Engi Dame x Prince Anime Caravan IDOLiSH7 Hug tto! Precure Ling Qi 2 Hataraku Onii-san! Kaijuu Girls: Ultra Kaijuu Gijinka Keikaku 2nd Season gdMen MamenekoInazma Delivery: Dougyousha Attack-hen You're talking like woman doesn't like to wear revealing clothing. Like you said, the medium is dominated by males, hence why attractive, female characters are more appealing to look at. Males are also drawn with perfect body proportions which females enjoy. Showcasing breasts or leggings is so minuscule to bring up as a problem. This is not just common in anime, but the gaming industry as well. Why would you care about social justice when it doesn't matter in a fictional medium? You're bringing it up as an issue when it's really not. You're speaking on behalf of others when it's not your place to do so. While fanservice does get excessive and repulsed even by men, it's just fictional. Applying fiction to real life predicaments is stupid. imho. Although I do see your argument as valid, it just doesn't matter to overall enjoyment (unless you're watching ecchi or harem which is 100% male oriented). |
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