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| I want this to be an anime about Yuzu freeing all the students at that school from their conformist tyranny. |
ten said: I hope it gets better. For now it's almost painful to watch. Don't really get where the supposed feelings came from, seems too forced. And Mei is so aggressive for no particular reason. you need to pay at least a little attention, her 1st assault was after she herself was assaulted by her teacher and Yuzu trying to meddle while missunderstanding what she saw, the 2nd time was after her grandfather forced her to move in with him and Yuzu trying to meddle again. |
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didn't we have gone over it ? Yuzu keeps being assaulted by Mei, this time it was at a level of rape attempt. did she ever said she wanted to be assaulted ? no, she only started to have feelings toward Mei. there are many stories of woman that where assaulted and abused but they keept going back to their home/work. but also think the "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME" exist only in porn and hentai, woman some times love despite them being abused & not becouse like what "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME" implys also, yes Yuzu seeked Mei but that was despide her fearing another assault, because she knows Mei needs help, like she figured out that the kiss she saw was an assault and she jumped to her help without a second thought. thats how much of a good person she is.(though, you know the quote "The road to hell is paved with good intentions") from my point of view, I see that the actions of Mei don't have their source in malice but from her broken self, thats why I can't hate her. |
LF2005Jan 17, 2018 9:32 AM
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| The pacing is crap...And it's problematic.....Mei is sexually harassing Yuzu and i'm supposed to believe it's love when it's more like Stockholm Syndrome. |
LF2005 said: ten said: I hope it gets better. For now it's almost painful to watch. Don't really get where the supposed feelings came from, seems too forced. And Mei is so aggressive for no particular reason. you need to pay at least a little attention, her 1st assault was after she herself was assaulted by her teacher and Yuzu trying to meddle while missunderstanding what she saw, the 2nd time was after her grandfather forced her to move in with him and Yuzu trying to meddle again. So beeing assaulted is somehow justifies her actions? Besides, she didn't look like she was against kissing the teacher. Yuzu might have been annoying with her meddling and missunderstanding but it's not a good reason to jump at her. |
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ten said: So beeing assaulted is somehow justifies her actions? Besides, she didn't look like she was against kissing the teacher. Yuzu might have been annoying with her meddling and missunderstanding but it's not a good reason to jump at her. didn't said it justifies her actions, only pointing out it was a direct reason, so it was not out of the blue |
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| Episode was extremely rushed, and at times made no sense at all. Mei and Yuzu are two of the dumbest characters ive seen in anime. Ill give it one more episode to redeem itself. Considering I thought episode 1 was decent. |
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| So rapey. I'll keep watching. |
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LF2005 said: didn't we have gone over it ? Yuzu keeps being assaulted by Mei, this time it was at a level of rape attempt. did she ever said she wanted to be assaulted ? no, she only started to have feelings toward Mei. there are many stories of woman that where assaulted and abused but they keept going back to their home/work. but also think the "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME" exist only in porn and hentai, woman some times love despite them being abused & not becouse like what "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME" implys also, yes Yuzu seeked Mei but that was despide her fearing another assault, because she knows Mei needs help, like she figured out that the kiss she saw was an assault and she jumped to her help without a second thought. thats how much of a good person she is.(though, you know the quote "The road to hell is paved with good intentions") from my point of view, I see that the actions of Mei don't have their source in malice but from her broken self, thats why I can't hate her. It's pretty fair to assume that Yuzu would be avoiding Mei if she didn't enjoy her company. Black_wind said: The pacing is crap...And it's problematic.....Mei is sexually harassing Yuzu and i'm supposed to believe it's love when it's more like Stockholm Syndrome. Sorry but nobody is going to take you seriously if you keep using buzzwords like "problematic". If you don't like the anime then so be it, but don't just throw meaningless terms at it. Likewise, your usage of the term "Stockholm Syndrome" leads me to believe that you don't actually know what it means. Yuzu is not Mei's captive. Not even close. Mei avoided Yuzu from the start and it was only Yuzu who wanted to be in contact. |
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Mamumba_Mobono said: 3DPD said: Sorry but nobody is going to take you seriously if you keep using buzzwords like "problematic". If you don't like the anime then so be it, but don't just throw meaningless terms at it. Likewise, your usage of the term "Stockholm Syndrome" leads me to believe that you don't actually know what it means. Yuzu is not Mei's captive. Not even close. Mei avoided Yuzu from the start and it was only Yuzu who wanted to be in contact. I dunno. Personally I don't write off people based on what *I* think the words they're using mean and treat people with the degree of seriousness depending on the context and their behavior, not based on words they're using. But I guess the latter is easier, you can think less. Also, harping on technicalities like what Stockholm Syndrome means medically makes YOU look like a nit-picky a**hole, not the other person. If you don't like it, I suppose you could take it up with the scientists who have been studying Stockholm Syndrome for the last 45 years. Yeah, you could write and have published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal your own paper disproving the idea of Stockholm Syndrome as a bond development between a captive and their captor but rather the attachment of two high school-age female Japanese comic book characters after one kisses the other literally once. |
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Mamumba_Mobono said: 3DPD said: If you don't like it, I suppose you could take it up with the scientists who have been studying Stockholm Syndrome for the last 45 years. Yeah, you could write and have published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal your own paper disproving the idea of Stockholm Syndrome as a bond development between a captive and their captor but rather the attachment of two high school-age female Japanese comic book characters after one kisses the other literally once. Yes, or, ooooor alternatively YOU could accept that the term has gained a colloquial meaning that diverges from the medical term while still being loosely based on it. And you know, remove that stick from your ass. It's gotta be painful my dude. Colloquial meaning has no weight in psychological discussions. The fact is that there is no evidence of Stockholm Syndrome working as you suggest it does. You can't just redefine a highly-researched psychological phenomenon and expect people to take your own personal definition seriously. With regards to the stick comment, are you implying that I am a homosexual because I identify as non-binary? Is that a slur against homosexuals? Honestly, I am done discussing this with you. Your inability to grasp simple concepts paired with your readiness to resort to ad hominem attacks and homophobic slurs leads me to believe that I'm dealing with someone who lacks the required decorum even for discussions on an Internet forum. |
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| In my opinion, this anime is the best non-action show in this season. I had so much fun watching this I love main character so much !! |
| Not sure how to feel about the episode!! It seems much more rush and tense then the manga ... like the show really doesn't flow right.. :/ |
| Yuzu w/ glasses + twintails... Still pretty boring. Think I'll pass on this one. |
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Hibikase said:  The way this show depicts characters' knees bothers me greatly. They literally look like giant mosquito bites/welts wtf. Anyways, decent episode. I feel like this show is just going to be just dumb fun interspersed with some drama, which is a combination that I don't hate. I am still not completely sold on the Mei and Yuzu as a couple simply because Mei genuinely spoke to Yuzu like a total of 5 times throughout these two episodes. If these characters begin have a more heart-to-heart talk instead of expressing affection through EXTREME physical intimacy (border-lining on sexual assault, wtf Mei), I might start liking these two more. Yuzu is also now confirmed to be a official idiot, like did she REALLY expect that "plan" of her's to work? I don't know how to feel about these type of characters who are so ignorant and unrealistically unaware of social norms and interactions. I am looking for the next episode, and hoping for more character development. I would also like to point out that I appreciate this show for having some "quiet" moments between the drama and comedy to balance the tone out. I am impressed by how the it handles melancholy and the personal space of its characters by giving them time to reflect, instead of blindly accepting and moving forward. Yes things slowly improve |
| As a slight yurifag while I'm casually...nah sincerely enjoying the yuri fanservice there's nothing else that's really appealing to me, so I may get to drop this. |
MHEEC said: I'm exaggerating mate. Or was that too old for your standards?if you really do think she looks like 12 then you have some serious problems Hibikase said: It's overdone (not even cute) or wouldn't be surprised if Mei had something to do with it.The way this show depicts characters' knees bothers me greatly. They literally look like giant mosquito bites/welts wtf. |
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| I really don't like Mei as a character. She just isn't consistent enough to make much sense. If she's really trying to stay away from Yuzu, what's with the sexy touching stuff? What purpose does that serve? She behaves like someone who's been traumatized by sexual assault and can't fathom any form of intimacy outside of non-con stuff. I haven't read the manga but, judging by this show so far, I doubt she's as deep a character as that. So this is just kind of a weird series. Nice animation and comedy though, and decent drama. 6.7/10 so far. |
| She was expulsed!!! And now what? kekeke |
| Eh? Already at love?? |
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| Yuzu makes me feel in love with her (again) seeing all this again. I love her way. Mei jumping on Yuzu is always nice to see |
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| Can't help but wonder why gay representation in anime/manga has gotta be so..... Weird. Sexual assault isn't cute and this isn't romantic. It's sickening that people are willing to excuse it just cus it's two cute 2D girls lmao. |
Aurorae said: Can't help but wonder why gay representation in anime/manga has gotta be so..... Weird. Sexual assault isn't cute and this isn't romantic. It's sickening that people are willing to excuse it just cus it's two cute 2D girls lmao. Sexual assault in a story, even if it's a touchy and sensitive subject, can be handled well depending on the writer. It's certainly not supposed to be cute or romantic. It's a hard thing to watch, but I'm not going to deny a writer from ever depicting it in a story. The problem is - and this basically relates to your first sentence - that so many yuri titles have either some kind of sexual assault in it, or the girl ends up forcing herself on the other girl. There are very few yuri series without it, for some reason. And you're right, it shouldn't be excused. |
MormegilFeb 1, 2018 3:09 AM
| The chairman’s reaction when she called him gramps was hilarious. I like how Yuzu has a different hairstyle ever other day, it’s kind of refreshing. |
| Liking Yuzu a lot and the chairman was a dick. |
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| I especially loved when Yuzu ratted out Amamiya-sensei. I believe in doing righteous things like that. I take no shit from people nowadays, either. And Mei's continued aggression is like nothing I've seen in a romance between girls before. |
IpreferEcchiFeb 22, 2018 1:18 PM
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| People should avoid more than 90% of yaoi and yuri if you dislike the sexual assaults, innuendoes and so on. I'm not supporting it and personally I think all rapists should fucking die and some of them need to be tortured for their entire life since death is too good for them but there hasn't been any rape in this series so far but I wouldn't put it pass the creator to add it since it's common in a lot of yuri and yaoi. Anyways the best part was when Yuzu said "baka baka" to the chairman like a little kid and also the part when she put Amamiya on blast and told everyone at the school that he kissed a student. He even resigned, he had a sidechick while being engaged to Mei, which was fucking obvious from the start. |
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| My lord, the animation quality leaves so, so much to be desired. Shoddy movements and still shots galore. They'd better revise the hell out of this in the BDs. KyoAni and P.A. Works are clearly better fit for adapting this manga, because it doesn't come close to capturing the right amount of vibrance and eccentricity of the characters. Also, Yuzu is really lacking the emotion she should be feeling after getting expelled. In the manga she's actually lamenting internally, and it shows in her expressions and her monologues. In here though, she's all like "aw, how unfortunate that happened." This episode in general just feels sloppier compared to the first, and makes me fear for what more could go wrong from this point forward. |
AltoRoarkMar 13, 2018 2:19 PM
| The whole thing is just fan service. I don't really get this lesbian relationship and why Mei keeps forcing on the Yuzu. Mei has come very close to raping Yuzu. It is at these times that I question what constitutes as rape. Is it rape if the other one enjoys it? Is it not rape if it is between women? The plot is just utterly turning to bullshit here. Aurorae said: Can't help but wonder why gay representation in anime/manga has gotta be so..... Weird. Sexual assault isn't cute and this isn't romantic. It's sickening that people are willing to excuse it just cus it's two cute 2D girls lmao. This has become a nonsense trope in many gay anime like Sakura Trick, Kuzu no Honkai and many other anime. Seriously, it is like they just force the gay relationship instead of making it like any other romance anime, where both the characters have feelings for each other. Even now, gay anime is just for fan service, not for any serious examination of relationships. I can only imagine we have more scenes where the characters just force themselves on each other.  Good luck with that abuse. .. .. .. .. I might as well stop watching this. |
JeremiahOrangeApr 5, 2018 1:46 PM
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| Can this get more overdramatic than it is? |
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| Let' summarize : the girl is kind enough (but too dumb for her own good) to try to save her stepsister (does it even count as stepsister ?) from a arranged mariage, then is almost raped by this very same stepsister and because of that is expelled from school... That's a pretty shity life. |
| "You should get in too, Mei." Aren't they a little old for that? And have you considered your adopted stepdaughter you just met might be a sexual predator? Okay, it's the second day and Yuzu's still too dumb to wear the goddamn uniform? That's on her. "It's about Mei. They came and took her away from us!" Yuzu: *on the outside* What? Yuzu: *on the inside* Thank the Lord this crazy bitch is going to stop molesting me while my mom smiles and makes us dinner. "Don't be scared!" is apparently code for "I clearly want to be sexually assaulted right now." And rather than take any responsibility for it, Mei just lets Yuzu get expelled for being a deviant lesbian. Bitch... |
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