| Asuka and Shinji cry and whine too much in the series. I want to hurt Asuka for crying a bit in episode 9 when Re was able to do better than her, crying a bit after the kiss scene. Being sad before she was about to go into Kaji's office in episode 17, crying when Shinji beat Zeruel in episode 20, crying curled up after her mindrape, yelling at Shinji for saying he's glad she's okay. And for running to Hikari dirt face's house to cry there. Asuka needs therapy, not Hikari dirt face, she needs to cry in front of a therapist, not Hikari! I want to hurt Hikari for acting paranoid and being sad when she thought Toji fat face had a love interest in Rei and for being sad when Toji was absent. That was just that one day, she should cheer up! I want to hurt Shinji and roll his turd butt into a ball and sing Good goes around while rolling him into bowling pins. I can have Asuka and Hikari in the ball too with him as I sing the song. All these characters need to be rolling in Katmari balls. I want to hurt Shinji for being in fetal position and crying throughout the whole series. Hikari dirt face shouldn't have even been in this series. She's just there. And she's too bossy. I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like. |
Angry_Anime_NerdSep 1, 2017 10:33 AM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| I doubt someone who's mother had died and has a shit relationship with his father while shouldering the responsibility of the fate of an entire city on his shoulders would be giggly and optimistic. I sure as hell wouldn't, especially not at that tender age. |
Take care of yourself |
| "Title" Maybe because the show revolves in parts around that? I'm also pretty sure those characters hurt themselves enough for not needing your help in this department. pinkarray said: 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like. Then there would be no show, I guess. @Clebardman Just to notify you the thread for later. |
Rei366 said: "Title" Maybe because the show revolves in parts around that? I'm also pretty sure those characters hurt themselves enough for not needing your help in this department. pinkarray said: 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like. Then there would be no show, I guess. @Clebardman Just to notify you the thread for later. The ones that tried killing themselves need to get hurt. I also don't care if they're in a giant robot getting hurt, they still need to get pushed into mud and get thrown at with food and stuff. Then, they should've just created a whole new show. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
pinkarray said: I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like. Sorry if I'm bursting your bubble, but not everyone is fortunate enough to have had a perfectly safe and happy childhood. Depression is a widespread mental health issue that needs to be taken seriously and can most certainly hit young adolescents as well. |
Prezbo said: pinkarray said: I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like. Sorry if I'm bursting your bubble, but not everyone is fortunate enough to have had a perfectly safe and happy childhood. Depression is a widespread mental health issue that needs to be taken seriously and can most certainly hit young adolescents as well. I think anybody who's depressed and sad needs to get hit (unless they're depressed in a way because something bad has happened and it's not a mental health issue). They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
pinkarray said: I think anybody who's depressed and sad needs to get hit (unless they're depressed in a way because something bad has happened and it's not a mental health issue). They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. Mate, I always knew you were trolling (no real 18-year-old can be that illiterate when it comes to depression), I just posted that because I know some of the younger kids out there genuinely believe in the things you said. |
Prezbo said: pinkarray said: I think anybody who's depressed and sad needs to get hit (unless they're depressed in a way because something bad has happened and it's not a mental health issue). They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. Mate, I always knew you were trolling (no real 18-year-old can be that illiterate when it comes to depression), I just posted that because I know some of the younger kids out there genuinely believe in the things you said. I am 18 years old. I just don't act like one. And I don't care for some of humanity. I can be loving but I don't particularly care for humanity because they cry more than I do or they're brats or both or something. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| https://www.thetoptens.com/ways-ruin-asuka-langley-soryu-life/ Does anyone want to contribute to it? |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| This thread had me in tears laughing. I'm seriously wondering if you're a troll or if you're serious. |
"Most anime makers are basically autistic" - Hideaki Anno |
Prezbo said: pinkarray said: I think anybody who's depressed and sad needs to get hit (unless they're depressed in a way because something bad has happened and it's not a mental health issue). They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. Mate, I always knew you were trolling (no real 18-year-old can be that illiterate when it comes to depression), I just posted that because I know some of the younger kids out there genuinely believe in the things you said. I'm sorry for what I said about real people with depression. I hadn't taken my anxiety medicine then. I probably wouldn't hurt them. But Evangelion is an anime that's not based on a true story so I say things about it I wouldn't say to a real person. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
KousakaK said: This thread had me in tears laughing. I'm seriously wondering if you're a troll or if you're serious. I really want to hurt these characters! I punch them when they're on the screen! I made lists about ways to hurt these characters! |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
pinkarray said: Evangelion is an anime that's not based on a true story so I say things about it I wouldn't say to a real person. But, but... Wasn't Evangelion based on a true depression?! Did everyone lie to me?? More seriously, pinkarray said: Depressed and sad people needs to get hit. They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. You should really, really, REALLY watch the adventures of joyful optimistic little Shû in another world, Ima soku ni iru boku. I think you might be one of the rare persons intelligent enough to be able to appreciate what was done with this hero. @pinkarray Zut... That was the exact kind of hero you were advertising. (they're teenagers, but that's strange to watch Evangelion then xD) |
Rei_IIISep 4, 2017 11:57 AM
Rei366 said: pinkarray said: Evangelion is an anime that's not based on a true story so I say things about it I wouldn't say to a real person. But, but... Wasn't Evangelion based on a true depression?! Did everyone lie to me?? More seriously, pinkarray said: Depressed and sad people needs to get hit. They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. You should really, really, REALLY watch the adventures of joyful optimistic little Shû in another world, Ima soku ni iru boku. I think you might be one of the rare persons intelligent enough to be able to appreciate what was done with this hero. I do know that Anno was suicidally depressed when making evangelion and that all the characters are facets of his personality but that's how a writer writes. They may write stuff based on their moods and also write the characters as facets of their personalities. But all the characters in the anime are entirely fictional. They weren't based on real teenagers or adults. Sorry, Now and then here and there doesn't sound like my cup of tea. I don't like dramas about children and teenagers. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
pinkarray said: https://www.thetoptens.com/ways-ruin-asuka-langley-soryu-life/ Does anyone want to contribute to it? Pretty impressive list. I especially like the "Body slam" option and "Slam her head into food". Those methods sure will put her in her place. |
"Most anime makers are basically autistic" - Hideaki Anno |
Rei366 said: pinkarray said: Evangelion is an anime that's not based on a true story so I say things about it I wouldn't say to a real person. But, but... Wasn't Evangelion based on a true depression?! Did everyone lie to me?? More seriously, pinkarray said: Depressed and sad people needs to get hit. They are emotionally weak and they should be joyful, cheerful, and enjoy life. Happiness is totally important and everyone needs to be happy and not depressed because happiness and laughter is healthy for you. You should really, really, REALLY watch the adventures of joyful optimistic little Shû in another world, Ima soku ni iru boku. I think you might be one of the rare persons intelligent enough to be able to appreciate what was done with this hero. @pinkarray Zut... That was the exact kind of hero you were advertising. (they're teenagers, but that's strange to watch Evangelion then xD) I first watched Evangelion at 16 years old. I didn't know what I was getting myself into, I just thought it was going to be silly little cartoon about normal teens in giant robots. Boy was I wrong, I found it annoying and the characters unlikeable. I really hated it more after I got into 11th grade. And don't force people by gunpoint to watch something they don't want to watch. Let them be free to watch whatever they're comfortable with and don't get upset. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| @pinkarray Didn't force anything. I just pinpointed why I couldn't know that you were against stories of teenagers since this thread started because you watched Evangelion. And l wasn't forcing someone to watch the series: I only reacted to the wish you wrote before. Anyway, excuse me for those things. ^^'At léast, it was fun to read for me . @Maneki-Mew I wasn't lying and sorry for spoiling you a part of the discovery. The hero was "fitting" well in the story, in the sense he was supposed to be our contemporary japanese boy implanted into a totally different world, filled with people wore down by it. (But maybe it"s due to my lack of intelligence: I loved Eva's TV finale.) I thought that this was exactly what our own whiny happy-go-lucky protagonist wanted. Someone at least a bit like him who wouldn't be "in phase" with the overall behaviour and try to apply his quiet life/world "rules" to this fictional other world. About Eva, have a good watch. PS: Amuro was a mecha war child suffering from his condition in 79 already. And he became excessively popular in Japan (although less than his respective "villain"). This allergic reaction pandemy in MAL (against Amuro Rei, ? Sakai Noriko, Hikari Shinji... I'm sure even the relatively consenting hero of Venus Wars would be rejected) must be something very post-90s West kids. PPS: you shouldn't have answered ;) |
Rei_IIISep 12, 2017 8:58 PM
| low quality shitpost,try harder next time. |
Maneki-Mew said: Okay, I'm watching Evangelion right now (in 2017 lol) and wanted to look at the forum and... oh no, pls not again. :( Should I answer, shouldn't I? But... (OT Rei366 said: You should really, really, REALLY watch the adventures of joyful optimistic little Shû in another world, Ima soku ni iru boku. I think you might be one of the rare persons intelligent enough to be able to appreciate what was done with this hero. At first, I thought that would be sarcasm from your side. XD I'm suprised? I really am, because it's high on my PTW-list and I don't know what I expect, just not that. XD From your point of view: Did you think that his personality type felt "wrong" in such a place or was he a good protagonist? ) Tbh Evangelion is or / and was the favorite anime of my older sister, who is 10 years older than me. She tried to force me to watch it when I was like 10-12. All I have seen were mecha (and I don't like mecha) and depressed teenagers. I remember that my uncomprehending 10-12 y/o dumb self found them annoying af, because I also preferred the typical hero protagonist back then. (Tho I still like cinnamon rolls characters, if they are not too bland. x3) So, I was where pinkarray is, just not so... obsessed uhm and... without these special thoughts. I was like 12 tho. So, now I want to give it a proper try now and I love it ... and I absolutely love Shinji. Normally I have a resting bitch face at sad scenes, even if I'm dying inside, but now, I swear ... a few tears escaped for Shinji. XD I still don't like the mecha. I just made peace with them lol. @pinkarray Maybe this kind of anime is just not for you? If you are an "advocat" of "everyone has their own taste" yourself, pls understand that other people have a different approach of 1. writing, not everybody wants to write children's books (and there is nothing wrong with it!) and 2. watching, reading; having a different view and perspective on the world. So, others don't shy away from exploring the soul's abyss. ... and at that point I just try to ignore that things about "suicidal people must get hurt" and like that. O.o I think that was just a part of your mood. Then again, don't play the "I appreciate kind and 'saint-like' (whatever that means) people"-card, if you have opinions like that; it's definitely not kind to kick someone physically and mentally, who lies already on the ground. Back to topic: Btw I personally think that a very good protagonist / other MCs NEED to be frustrating sometimes / often, because they are not real otherwise. In a good way, not "I think it's so bland-Kirito-way" xD Tho I prefer somewhat likeable protagonists (epecially those likeable anti-heroes-type with a good core), they don't need to please you throughout the whole series. Please, don't come with that "but there are good and optimistic people" again, because... yes I know, but they also have in general a normal range of emotions, flaws and many problems on their own. Everyone has. A protagonist, who tries to do everything / is written only to please the audience is called a self-insert and if he doesn't struggle with it, it's a Gary Stue. So, you see Shinji and Asuka and many others there are more fleshed out human beings with a wider range of somewhat more believable emotions based on their psychological structure and age. Asuka isn't even supposed to be liked, to begin with... and I actually didn't LIKE her in a few scenes as a person, but I think she is good as a character. Btw I even don't "like" all humans in my environment 24/7, even if they are someone I love. Sounds contradictorily, but is a normal thing. Everyone has quirks and flaws and could get annoying and exhausting and there are like a million possibilities why human interaction could hurt and go very wrong. So, characters are a mirror of that. They are just more simplified versions from real humans, because you can't write them in their full complexity. AND it would appear as psychopathic af, if they "giggle and are happy", when they are stucked with that shit. XD It does more harm than good, when a character doesn't react in a psychological normal way. There are many possibilities how to react, BUT "I don't care, let's sing a song and be happy" isn't... unless it's written like a coping mechanism. That's, on the other hand, is a really good way to add depth. But the bland "the 14 y/o kids giggle and are still genuinely happy" appears like "wow, those characters really are psychopaths... or robots, I don't know." ^^" How is that crazy if they giggle and are happy? That would be crazy if they giggle in a crazy way or over crazy things. They don't have to sing a song and turn it into a musical or whatever. They already are crazy people. I know it's not kind to hit someone who is suicidal. But I still like very kind and saintly people. So then do you want them to not smile a whole lot but still not act emo and depressed? I was a giggly and genuinely happy 14 year old and I still am at 18. Maybe if these kids have gotten counselling, they probably wouldn't have been this emo, unlikeable, and depressed. All of these characters should've been the antagonist or villain for being unlikeable. Add in them changing over the course of the series to become more kinder and more selfless, that would be a plus. That all is how you write a good unlikeable character. They don't need to be a goody-goody because goody-goody characters aren't interesting. I just want a likeable character who isn't a tsundere, emo, crybaby, depressed, angsty character and especially kid. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Maneki-Mew said: It' crazy, because the traumatic situations wouldn't affect them. Imagine a child in a war, who gives a fuck of what's going on around him ... and not, because it got numb and can't deal with it anymore. Just because the kid gives a fuck and is still happy. Sounds like a big psychopath, right? It doesn't sound like a pyschopath but more like weird. I didn't say traumas never affect people, traumas can stay with people. Like I have suffered through trauma before when I was 7 and I used to act like a terror because of it. But 5 years later, I decided to be a more carefree, happy, and nicer person to others when I was nearing my 13th birthday. Though, I still exhibit bad behaviors from the trauma like with watching movies or series and even in real life on occasion. Though, in real life and when I'm talking to real people, I am a sweet person. The characters in Evangelion have had traumas that happened 10-14 years ago and I can't like them because they still haven't changed from their traumas like I have. They still want to be selfish little brats who don't know how to be more kinder to people and part of that was because they didn't get therapy whereas I have gotten therapy over the years and I still do. They should've gotten therapy right after their traumas happened to prevent them from being the emo, depressed people they would become later in life and prevent them from acting as selfish as a result of the trauma. Maneki-Mew said: It's not about what you want to do. And maybe you lack of the skill to put yourself in other people's head and understand that others aren't that lucky? If you have problems with that, it's mostly not your fault, but you could refrain from judging everyone and everything, because you don't understand. I don't know what you mean by put myself in other peoples' head, I assume put myself in other peoples' shoes? Well, they need to learn not to take everything so harshly and not let everything affect them. I wasn't like that when I was their age. I just thought life was fun and made it fun. And I still do. Maneki-Mew said: Srsly, I can't take you serious for calling suffering kids antagonists or even VILLAINS. lol ='D Character development could "go wrong" and their mental state could get worse throughout a story. These characters are their own worst enemy and they're written as unlikeable characters. Unlikeable characters should've been the villain/antagonist. I wish that they were more likeable and develop into a nicer person. I've seen good characters who were the villains get redemption and they become more nicer people. These characters don't even change from the selfish brats they were initally were, they're still the same emo depressed people before. They should've changed and grew into being a true good guy. Not act like the bad guy and become worse. If they were already the good guy, then they may change into darker people. But since they're unlikeable, they should've changed to become a better person. People can change from their mistakes. Maneki-Mew said: Is there anything you like in the world except Cowboy Bebop anyway? XD Here are some movies I like: https://letterboxd.com/purpleandred/list/not-quite-perfect-but-still-rewatchable-movies/ I do like a lot of things like music, reading L.M. Montgomery books, playing games etc. as said from my profile. You can check my list for some anime I like. |
Angry_Anime_NerdSep 12, 2017 11:26 AM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Maneki-Mew said: pinkarray said: It doesn't sound like a pyschopath but more like weird. I didn't say traumas never affect people, traumas can stay with people. Like I have suffered through trauma before when I was 7 and I used to act like a terror because of it. But 5 years later, I decided to be a more carefree, happy, and nicer person to others when I was nearing my 13th birthday. Though, I still exhibit bad behaviors from the trauma like with watching movies or series and even in real life on occasion. Though, in real life and when I'm talking to real people, I am a sweet person. The characters in Evangelion have had traumas that happened 10-14 years ago and I can't like them because they still haven't changed from their traumas like I have. They still want to be selfish little brats who don't know how to be more kinder to people and part of that was because they didn't get therapy whereas I have gotten therapy over the years and I still do. They should've gotten therapy right after their traumas happened to prevent them from being the emo, depressed people they would become later in life and prevent them from acting as selfish as a result of the trauma. Well okay, that's really good for you. But his father is still very awful and being involved in a bigger battle and all that shit is still traumatizing. It seems so easy to fight and to kill in many other anime. Tho I have the feeling that this changes now a little bit and more characters, even in action and Shounen, hesitate and the process itself doesn't seem so easy. Surprise, it's not funny to pilote something like a war machine. They are more like child soldiers. Not emos. I think you don't know the difference between a teenager in a dumb emo phase and depressed people with serious problems. (OT: That's why I dislike the hate against teenage protagonists, who got in a war of other series *cough* especially Eren */cough*) pinkarray said: I don't know what you mean by put myself in other peoples' head, I assume put myself in other peoples' shoes? Well, they need to learn not to take everything so harshly and not let everything affect them. I wasn't like that when I was their age. I just thought life was fun and made it fun. And I still do. I said it that way, because that's literally what empathy means. ^^" Everything else is above. pinkarray said: These characters are their own worst enemy and they're written as unlikeable characters. Unlikeable characters should've been the villain/antagonist. I wish that they were more likeable and develop into a nicer person. I've seen good characters who were the villains get redemption and they become more nicer people. These characters don't even change from the selfish brats they were initally were, they're still the same emo depressed people before. They should've changed and grew into being a true good guy. Not act like the bad guy and become worse. If they were already the good guy, then they may change into darker people. But since they're unlikeable, they should've changed to become a better person. People can change from their mistakes. Here are some movies I like: https://letterboxd.com/purpleandred/list/not-quite-perfect-but-still-rewatchable-movies/ I do like a lot of things like music, reading L.M. Montgomery books, playing games etc. as said from my profile. You can check my list for some anime I like. But they don't have to and that's too much black and white-thinking for me. These are not bad people per se, they are not your stereotypical villain ... they are distressed children, who are also confused by their feelings and hormons. (I remember that I acted in a similar way like Asuka when I was like 16 and a boy kissed me. But for me, I didn't like him romantically and we were drunk, so I was like: Eww, why are you doing this? *wipe my mouth with my hands* I'm so, so sorry, boy from back then! XD) Is it so strange that one or both could cry after that accident, especially 14 y/o? He also got hurt, of course. Teenagers aren't so secure about their sexuality and feeling physical and emotional attraction is already scary without a rejection (even for heterosexual people and even more for homosexual). pinkarray said: @Maneki-Mew Did you give up because you can't change that dark worldview of yours? Are you resenting me for saying that these characters are like antagonists? Wtf, pls give people some time. They also have other things to do and need time to writer an answer. ^^" And I don't have a DARK worldview it's a more realistic one; I'm interested in people, because you know... you should, when you are going to specialize yourself in neurobiology. Well, I don't know Eren since I haven't seen much of Attack on Titan but I just can't stand characters who are supposed to be the good guys but have so many flaws that stop them from being likeable. Evangelion is an overdramatic, melodramatic anime about a bunch of kids angsting all the time. They need to just toughen up, stop letting everything upset them, and become kinder people. I'd love to see child soldiers like Link from Zelda or the kids from Splatoon for example who don't angst, cry, or whine. The children need to learn more about how to control their hormones, feelings, and shadow sides. They are emo because they make a big deal out of everything, they're crybabies, they whine a lot, they angst a lot, break down, go insane, and they don't take the time to have fun in life and that's what an emo person does. I'm sorry I got impatient and you said that you didn't want to take me seriously, so I thought you just would ignore me. but you keep saying that every human being is an evil person but that's not true. I know some people who are sweethearts and angels and that's part of the reason why I thought you had a dark worldview. |
Angry_Anime_NerdSep 12, 2017 8:50 PM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Maneki-Mew said: @pinkarray No problem, but I think the discussion goes always in a circle. but you keep saying that every human being is an evil person but that's not true No wait, I haven't said that. In fact I said... I remember that my uncomprehending 10-12 y/o dumb self found them annoying af, because I also preferred the typical hero protagonist back then. (Tho I still like cinnamon rolls characters, if they are not too bland. x3) and... Tho I prefer somewhat likeable protagonists (epecially those likeable anti-heroes-type with a good core), they don't need to please you throughout the whole series. What's so "dark" about that? But it's true, on the other hand, when you get in an emotionally crashing situation, every human COULD become a murderer under the "right" circumstances. Tho that doesn't make everyone an evil person, not even those, who act under special circumstances like that. Also everyone could become depressed or an addict at one point. You could never know what will happen in your life. A normal life span could be very long. (For example, a prof in high school had a son, who was raped at a date and commited suicide after one or two years after that. I just know that she got addicted to tranquilizers and don't know what happened after that to her, because she went away, I think. People really liked her, but she never was the same person since that. You can't say that people just should deal with things.) To the other thing: of course, teenagers learn and can control their hormones. I mean, it's not like Shinji for example sleeps around with every girl there. He has a genuinely big crush on Asuka and if someone isn't asexual, a crush is always driven by sexual forces as well. Of course there is also Rei, but it's also kinda believable imo. And Asuka doesn't want to admit the same thing on her side. It's a dumb situation, but humans are just that way... and especially kids are that way. It's scary to confess and to get into something more etc... and many adults aren't so much better either. I wasn't talking about what you just said here was dark. I'm talking about our prior conversations. Maneki-Mew said: About "cursing, violence and sex", I just can repeat what I was saying about anime: Some plots need it and many sex scenes do something for the movie like the development of a relationship or to show a specific thing. Some movies are using too much cursing and violence to appear ... edgy, but a movie for adult people needs a certain level of realism and so, the audiences waits for a (semi-)realistic conflict. Reality can be very cruel and there is a saying that you don't need to believe in a supernatural source of the devil, because humans are capable of all evil things Yes, they CAN, but they don't must... btw nobody older than 5 is still "pure". I don't get it. I see that your viewpoint is more realistic but it seems like you say that every human is evil and less than pure? I know some people who are older than 5 who are still beautiful cinnamon rolls. I know that there are some humans that are evil and some people who are bratty out in this world, but there are also a lot of nice people that I met. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
pinkarray said: A I want to hurt Hikari for acting paranoid and being sad when she thought Toji fat face had a love interest in Rei and for being sad when Toji was absent. That was just that one day, she should cheer up! I want to hurt Shinji and roll his turd butt into a ball and sing Good goes around while rolling him into bowling pins. I can have Asuka and Hikari in the ball too with him as I sing the song. All these characters need to be rolling in Katmari balls. I want to hurt Shinji for being in fetal position and crying throughout the whole series. pinkarray said: The ones that tried killing themselves need to get hurt. I also don't care if they're in a giant robot getting hurt, they still need to get pushed into mud and get thrown at with food and stuff. pinkarray said: I am 18 years old. I just don't act like one. And I don't care for some of humanity. I can be loving but I don't particularly care for humanity because they cry more than I do or they're brats or both or something. shit i think i cut myself from the edge there pretty funny stuff op |
| Oh, great, it's still living! pinkarray said: I'd love to see child soldiers like Link from Zelda or the kids from Splatoon for example who don't angst, cry, or whine. But... they have no character trait or anything as the videogame characters they are. @pinkarray O_O I was only refering to the kind of videogame characters you mentioned, the ones who are simple interfaces for the player. (love Zelda by the way). Other types of game have characters with existing personalities because itis needed. My bad, have fun in this never-ending argument with @Maneki-Mew |
Rei_IIISep 17, 2017 1:06 AM
Rei366 said: Oh, great, it's still living! pinkarray said: I'd love to see child soldiers like Link from Zelda or the kids from Splatoon for example who don't angst, cry, or whine. But... they have no character trait or anything as the videogame characters they are. I hate when people say Link has a blank personality because he doesn't talk. Just because Link doesn't talk doesn't mean he has no personality. I can tell his personality just by looking at his actions and his silent dialogue that you choose for his character. Video game characters can have personality, too. Usually Link is very helpful, he almost never cries and warriors are like that, humble and courageous. I've only played some Zelda games, Ocarina of time, Majora's Mask, A Link to the Past, Breath of the Wild, and some game that was on the 3ds, I think it was a demo of Tri-force heroes. but I heard that Link is more expressive in games like Wind Waker. Video game characters can be whiny, angsty crybabies too. Any character, whether in a video game, a book, or a movie would be boring if they are just robots who don't have their own personality. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Maneki-Mew said: pinkarray said: I hate when people say Link has a blank personality because he doesn't talk. Just because Link doesn't talk doesn't mean he has no personality. I can tell his personality just by looking at his actions and his silent dialogue that you choose for his character. Video game characters can have personality, too. Usually Link is very helpful, he almost never cries and warriors are like that, humble and courageous. I've only played some Zelda games, Ocarina of time, Majora's Mask, A Link to the Past, Breath of the Wild, and some game that was on the 3ds, I think it was a demo of Tri-force heroes. but I heard that Link is more expressive in games like Wind Waker. Video game characters can be whiny, angsty crybabies too. Any character, whether in a video game, a book, or a movie would be boring if they are just robots who don't have their own personality. When I think of a warrior or soldier, I more think of... the Eren-type? XD Hardened, maybe angry, good at fighting, maybe numb because of the things, which led to the war and because of the battlefield itself. I know that there is the white-knight-stereotype, but they aren't my very first association. ^^" Link agrees with everything and helps everywhere, because you should explore the world around him. The story wouldn't progress otherwise. He does these things and is interacting so much, because the player says: "Agree that you want to help that guy. That will give me a new quest / item ... and a horse.. / is important for the storyline." Every mute video game character ever is just a big, big Gary Stue in the end, when you finally collected all the weapons etc. and the protagonist of a video game is the only person that REALLY matters, because you should finish a quest by yourself and not a side-kick. XD Btw, it's not nice to break in open houses, steal their belongings and break vases... and abuse chickens! XD (joke, please don't take it serious) Link just got a very beloved character, because Zelda has a status as a classic video game and some people like me also like his design plus his weapons. His name is literally Link; for a link between worlds AND for a link between you and the world in the game. But eh yes, he is like a robot. And so are others. Games like Pokemon with Red and Golden Sun make even fun of their own mute and characterless protagonists lol. Would prefer a "crybaby" anytime. ^^" not for a video game character. Tbh, I don't care for my character, because they are like an avatar for the player. I would prefer "crybabies" in stories, where their protagonists matters as a person, anytime. Anime characters don't function that way, unless their name is Son Goku or Kirito XD ... or someone like Sorey. But Sorey from Tales of Zestiria was also a video game character. He is like the cutest bland MC ever lol. EDIT: Can I ask you something? I'm genuinely curious. Why did you rate Mononoke Hime so incredibly high compared to your mean score? I mean, San is like the grumpiest heroine from Ghibli ever and she is full of hatred. She is so full of hatred; even after the events she can't be with Ashitaka (a human man in general), because she can't forget and I bet she can't forgive either. Ashitaka is a good guy, but not your too shining hero either and you definitely can't say that of others as well. Also it's kind of "gory'? --- @Rei366 Well, I've never heard a similar opinion like @pinkarray before, so it's kind of interesting to hear it imo (without the violence fantasies lol) Link is a robot because he's stoic and is just a link between the player and him? I don't think mute video game characters are Gary Sues unless they don't have any flaws but Link to me isn't a Gary Sue. He takes risks, he sleeps a lot, he has a quiet nature, he doesn't usually show emotion and in the newest game, his dialogue choices could even be stubborn and outspoken. He's a totally nice person and some characters who are totally nice could end up being slightly saccharine, but Link isn't. He's got more than a few flaws to keep him from being a goody-goody. About Princess Mononoke, I believe I have always liked Princess Mononoke, though I do remember an annoying woman shouting a lot at people in it so I don't like her but I don't know if it was San. It may have been Eboshi or something. I don't know if I still love it or not, I may have got bored with it but I don't really remember. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| Haha this thread is very funny haha :) |
Angry_Anime_Nerd said: Maneki-Mew said: It' crazy, because the traumatic situations wouldn't affect them. Imagine a child in a war, who gives a fuck of what's going on around him ... and not, because it got numb and can't deal with it anymore. Just because the kid gives a fuck and is still happy. Sounds like a big psychopath, right? It doesn't sound like a pyschopath but more like weird. I didn't say traumas never affect people, traumas can stay with people. Like I have suffered through trauma before when I was 7 and I used to act like a terror because of it. But 5 years later, I decided to be a more carefree, happy, and nicer person to others when I was nearing my 13th birthday. Though, I still exhibit bad behaviors from the trauma like with watching movies or series and even in real life on occasion. Though, in real life and when I'm talking to real people, I am a sweet person. The characters in Evangelion have had traumas that happened 10-14 years ago and I can't like them because they still haven't changed from their traumas like I have. They still want to be selfish little brats who don't know how to be more kinder to people and part of that was because they didn't get therapy whereas I have gotten therapy over the years and I still do. They should've gotten therapy right after their traumas happened to prevent them from being the emo, depressed people they would become later in life and prevent them from acting as selfish as a result of the trauma. Maneki-Mew said: It's not about what you want to do. And maybe you lack of the skill to put yourself in other people's head and understand that others aren't that lucky? If you have problems with that, it's mostly not your fault, but you could refrain from judging everyone and everything, because you don't understand. I don't know what you mean by put myself in other peoples' head, I assume put myself in other peoples' shoes? Well, they need to learn not to take everything so harshly and not let everything affect them. I wasn't like that when I was their age. I just thought life was fun and made it fun. And I still do. Maneki-Mew said: Srsly, I can't take you serious for calling suffering kids antagonists or even VILLAINS. lol ='D Character development could "go wrong" and their mental state could get worse throughout a story. These characters are their own worst enemy and they're written as unlikeable characters. Unlikeable characters should've been the villain/antagonist. I wish that they were more likeable and develop into a nicer person. I've seen good characters who were the villains get redemption and they become more nicer people. These characters don't even change from the selfish brats they were initally were, they're still the same emo depressed people before. They should've changed and grew into being a true good guy. Not act like the bad guy and become worse. If they were already the good guy, then they may change into darker people. But since they're unlikeable, they should've changed to become a better person. People can change from their mistakes. Maneki-Mew said: Is there anything you like in the world except Cowboy Bebop anyway? XD Here are some movies I like: https://letterboxd.com/purpleandred/list/not-quite-perfect-but-still-rewatchable-movies/ I do like a lot of things like music, reading L.M. Montgomery books, playing games etc. as said from my profile. You can check my list for some anime I like. ''I don't know what you mean by put myself in other peoples' head, I assume put myself in other peoples' shoes? Well, they need to learn not to take everything so harshly and not let everything affect them. I wasn't like that when I was their age. I just thought life was fun and made it fun. And I still do.'' true true to some extent, if you were really just carefree that age or had fun, but most people that age wanna ''fit in'' or whatever so they or people feel pressure, easy to say, (also what kind of person you are, are you a serious, sort of pushing limits person or a chill, ohh whatever person, if you arent or havent experienced (but also the fault of the chars is, its a anime, and people just arent the way some or we all like, some might agree disagree, ''ohh well this action, this action'' etc, you can say the same about human stuff, always some stuff you can find fault in if you think about it i guess https://youtu.be/lODx7LCItGY?t=1128, https://youtu.be/ZGU3r35FTik?t=2103) trying to be proficient or good at something, you cant ''ohh they shoudnt let that and that hit them hard or harsh'', sure if they didnt take it all so serious maybe they wouldnt have taken it so hard, but its supposed to portray real emotions, even though yea, feels excagerated in hindsight, but isnt that what being a teenager is? for many anyway. but i do agree sometimes the chars are too edgyy and way too depressed, looking back on it, they really are. but they show what the chars go through and exp, might be excagerated (but thats what being sad/depressed is like, you feel only negative and it just, you just cant feel happy or positive in everday stuff) cause it does feel like it sometimes, but a issue is a issue) i releated to them when i was younger, guess if i wouldve been more carefree i wouldnt have gotten depressed, but most teens i reckon take stuff pretty seriously, well only i guess though i guess i mean god knows why eva is still so popular, (but ohh their too depressed, (and ohh well eva wasnt based on real people, what a weird way of..i dunno, but it kind of was. according to anno anaway, it was alot about his life https://quotefancy.com/quote/1688878/Hideaki-Anno-Evangelion-is-my-life-and-I-have-put-everything-I-know-into-this-work-This ofc other people had their say too ofc, but god knows what he had going on cause eva is just too depressing at points, too depressing.) i was just happy, carefree i guess in your teens well good for you, but many people just arent, probably why eva resonate so strongly, if you were just mostly happy, ofc eva will be, wtf is this, their are too whiny, depressed, faults etc, but thats what depressed/sad is like kind of, (yea they should be happier, not as depressed, but thats just not how depression works, https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/new/ there is more to life than sadness, frustration, you name it, (you cant just hit someone out of feeling sad... noo.. it dont work like that like some people handle stuff well, others bad, (yea ''feelings'' arent real in like ohh i get hit almost killed kind of way, but their still states of being, people need to be able to feel stuff to be human, you cant just quickly ignore stuff, feelings dont work that way, maybe some people just nah, stuff dont affect me, im just gonna do something fun joyful, but all people aint like that, i'd say most arent, almost everyone has been really low/sad at some points i reckon, https://www.quora.com/Does-everyone-go-through-depression-throughout-their-lives i obviously cant speak for all though) people can only take so much, (but good on ya for just moving on quickly i guess) people need to work through stuff, stuff just affects people, i guess if people werent so serious, as you say there would be less depression, i dunno.) and yea sometime they really just too depressed i agree way overboard honestly, (and the blog post i agree some of the scene in eva was too much for me too) it doesent start out to great or too interesting compared to other anime. you want a happy type popular anime, or adventerous, watch One Piece, i dunno hunter x hunter, sailor moon lol. |
evangelionfanDec 17, 2021 7:39 AM
evangelionfan said: but most people that age wanna ''fit in'' or whatever so they or people feel pressure, easy to say, (also what kind of person you are, are you a serious, sort of pushing limits person or a chill, ohh whatever person, if you arent or havent experienced (but also the fault of the chars is, its a anime, and people just arent the way some or we all like, some might agree disagree, ''ohh well this action, this action'' etc, you can say the same about human stuff, always some stuff you can find fault in if you think about it i guess https://youtu.be/lODx7LCItGY?t=1128, https://youtu.be/ZGU3r35FTik?t=2103) trying to be proficient or good at something, you cant I think me not having a concern about fitting in or having much of an identity crises was due to me not being in school. I've always thrived on being myself and focused a lot on hobbies like playing instruments or writing. I was never a person who took risks by breaking laws like most teens. I do have a temper and a lot of anxiety but I was mostly a cheerful, happy go lucky, playful teen who still wanted to be a kid. it doesent start out to great or too interesting compared to other anime. you want a happy type popular anime, or adventerous, watch One Piece, i dunno hunter x hunter, sailor moon lol. Thanks for the recommendations but One Piece looks too sad for me. I know it has comedy in it but also drama apparently too. Hunter x Hunter idk yet but I heard the main character is kinda a jerk (does he grow though?). I watched a few episodes of Sailor Moon and she annoyed the hell out of me with her whining and brattiness. |
Angry_Anime_NerdDec 17, 2021 12:21 PM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
| They quite certainly are lol this show was made by someone that was (clinically) depressed and talks about depression, social isolation, self-loathing and escapism so yeah "I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like." Yeah, i press F on that one, and is really the first time i ever heard anyone saying that teenage years are the most optimistic and giggly like wat |
Oznerol7 said: They quite certainly are lol this show was made by someone that was (clinically) depressed and talks about depression, social isolation, self-loathing and escapism so yeah "I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like." Yeah, i press F on that one, and is really the first time i ever heard anyone saying that teenage years are the most optimistic and giggly like wat Milestones aren't always right and I was pushing my own experiences onto this show. I had a pretty different life from most teens so never really struggled much with fitting in, dating, rebellion (like drugs and sneaking out kind of rebellion), identity crises, or strained parental relationships. The big problem I struggled with was anxiety which I still have to this day and was the reason for my past obsession with this show. These last few years, I realized that having anxiety made my teen years much harder to deal with than my childhood so yeah, definitely not the happiest time no matter how cheerful and carefree I was but I think I had it easier than most kids. |
Angry_Anime_NerdDec 17, 2021 12:32 PM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Angry_Anime_Nerd said: evangelionfan said: but most people that age wanna ''fit in'' or whatever so they or people feel pressure, easy to say, (also what kind of person you are, are you a serious, sort of pushing limits person or a chill, ohh whatever person, if you arent or havent experienced (but also the fault of the chars is, its a anime, and people just arent the way some or we all like, some might agree disagree, ''ohh well this action, this action'' etc, you can say the same about human stuff, always some stuff you can find fault in if you think about it i guess https://youtu.be/lODx7LCItGY?t=1128, https://youtu.be/ZGU3r35FTik?t=2103) trying to be proficient or good at something, you cant I think me not having a concern about fitting in or having much of an identity crises was due to me not being in school. I've always thrived on being myself and focused a lot on hobbies like playing instruments or writing. I was never a person who took risks by breaking laws like most teens. I do have a temper and a lot of anxiety but I was mostly a cheerful, happy go lucky, playful teen who still wanted to be a kid. it doesent start out to great or too interesting compared to other anime. you want a happy type popular anime, or adventerous, watch One Piece, i dunno hunter x hunter, sailor moon lol. Thanks for the recommendations but One Piece looks too sad for me. I know it has comedy in it but also drama apparently too. Hunter x Hunter idk yet but I heard the main character is kinda a jerk (does he grow though?). I watched a few episodes of Sailor Moon and she annoyed the hell out of me with her whining and brattiness. I think me not having a concern about fitting in or having much of an identity crises was due to me not being in school. I've always thrived on being myself and focused a lot on hobbies like playing instruments or writing. I was never a person who took risks by breaking laws like most teens. I do have a temper and a lot of anxiety but I was mostly a cheerful, happy go lucky, playful teen who still wanted to be a kid. great for you honestly i can only say. 100%, pray you never get depressed... its not something you wanna experience. (it isnt as much about ''fitting in''... well... i felt more i wanted to do my best at whatever (pick anything) and i guesss, just didnt feel good enough about myself, kind of feeling in stuff, (guess for many girls that is insane beaty standards or something, certain ways of being around or compared to other girls. i have no idea, im not a girl, so i cant say, but you hear stuff... so i dunno.) so stuff i guess got to me or broke me, when watching eva, it was like, someone finally got or understood my pain/frustration i felt most in life, at the time anyway. you would almost have to have experienced it to know how it feels, so i didnt feel the critisisms, you felt when watching eva as much (i still felt the, man just shinji is so, and asuka is just so nasty, crazy, but the way asuka just tended too when i saw that i said, thats kind of me.. i used to totally be like that, cause i was sad, and frustrated and quiet very often, ''why are you so quiet'' then i'd be mad, yell, be sad, lash out often cause i was sad or frustrated (totally counter to you i guess, you used to be mostly happy) but i'd never take it out on classmates, or like one friend i had. and you have a right to say eva is just too depressing and not good alot of the time, it is alot like you say in critizism. just alot of people do viev it different if they do relate alot to the chars and what goes on i'd say. first it's kind of, the vibe of it i think, and what happens, its weirdly engaiging somewhat, alot of people do take the other wiev like, this dont make no sense, the chars are just... and or they find it boring, etc. so i guess it is what it is, some people really find something they relate too, some people dont. one piece aint sad as a whole, (and isnt drama.. well you said you didnt really like too much drama, in real life drama' is no fun, i always say, stop just stop, or whats going on now.. if i see it, i dont like it either., but watching it, is.. i can tolerate that. any anime almost has some drama, like.. well damn lol, few anime are just feel good, like lucky star i suppose, most anime have some drama i guess, yea. so i mean i dunno if you dont like it, you dont like it i guess) (its long though,) but alot of fun and adventours stuff, its a shonen though so theres that. no gon aint a jerk lol, and he grows like any shonen char yeah. |
evangelionfanDec 17, 2021 6:15 PM
Oznerol7 said: well suprising with the, teens happy thing, its hard to quantify though, theres no certanty obviosuly, i certain wasnt happy as a teen often, or i found my experience of life just mostly, sad. (and issues just went on for a long while) i dunno about you though, or other teens as a whole, are most happy, sad, in the middle? who knows...They quite certainly are lol this show was made by someone that was (clinically) depressed and talks about depression, social isolation, self-loathing and escapism so yeah "I read a milestone that say 14 year olds are giggly, optimistic, and enjoy life and that's what these kids should've been like." Yeah, i press F on that one, and is really the first time i ever heard anyone saying that teenage years are the most optimistic and giggly like wat |
evangelionfanDec 17, 2021 4:53 PM
evangelionfan said: great for you honestly i can only say. 100%, pray you never get depressed, its not something you wanna experience. and you have a right to say eva is just too depressing and not good alot of the time, it is alot like you say in critizism. just alot of people do viev it different if they do relate alot to the chars and what goes on i'd say. first it's kind of, the vibe of it i think, and what happens, its weirdly engaiging somewhat, alot of people do take the other wiev like, this dont make no sense, the chars are just... and or they find it boring, etc. so i guess it is what it is, some people really find something they relate too, some people dont. one piece aint sad as a whole, (its long though,) but alot of fun and adventours stuff, its a shonen though so theres that. no gon aint a jerk lol, and he grows like any shonen char yeah. Well, I haven't seen Hunter x Hunter to judge but I may have different ideas from you on what a jerk is. Some people don't consider Miles Morales or Morty or maybe even Usagi a jerk but I do. Miles is a jerk to me because of his rebellion. Also tv tropes said his character development is that he becomes more hostile. I mean, does he grow, like does he learn from his mistakes and learns to control his temper or impulse more? I guess I would be a bit more understanding toward his character if he is sympathetic. Unlikeable characters need to be sympathetic in some way and have some kind of motive/reasoning behind their actions in order for the audience to care about them. But sometimes this doesn't work, like in the case of Evangelion, giving them a sad backstory does not excuse their actions. A lot of the times, they just seem to be plain selfish characters and it's hard to like characters who are motivated purely by their own egos. We also have different ideas on what melodrama is. One Piece looks like it could be too melodramatic for me. Into the Spiderverse, Gravity Falls's and Owl House's second seasons are too melodramatic for me even though they're balanced out with comedy. |
Angry_Anime_NerdDec 17, 2021 6:01 PM
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. "TURN THAT JAPANESE SHIT OFF OR I'LL PUT YOU THROUGH THE FUCKING WALL!" |
Angry_Anime_Nerd said: evangelionfan said: great for you honestly i can only say. 100%, pray you never get depressed, its not something you wanna experience. and you have a right to say eva is just too depressing and not good alot of the time, it is alot like you say in critizism. just alot of people do viev it different if they do relate alot to the chars and what goes on i'd say. first it's kind of, the vibe of it i think, and what happens, its weirdly engaiging somewhat, alot of people do take the other wiev like, this dont make no sense, the chars are just... and or they find it boring, etc. so i guess it is what it is, some people really find something they relate too, some people dont. one piece aint sad as a whole, (its long though,) but alot of fun and adventours stuff, its a shonen though so theres that. no gon aint a jerk lol, and he grows like any shonen char yeah. Well, I haven't seen Hunter x Hunter to judge but I may have different ideas from you on what a jerk is. Some people don't consider Miles Morales or Morty or maybe even Usagi a jerk but I do. Miles is a jerk to me because of his rebellion. Also tv tropes said his character development is that he becomes more hostile. I mean, does he grow, like does he learn from his mistakes and learns to control his temper or impulse more? I guess I would be a bit more understanding toward his character if he is sympathetic. Unlikeable characters need to be sympathetic in some way and have some kind of motive/reasoning behind their actions in order for the audience to care about them. But sometimes this doesn't work, like in the case of Evangelion, giving them a sad backstory does not excuse their actions. A lot of the times, they just seem to be plain selfish characters and it's hard to like characters who are motivated purely by their own egos. We also have different ideas on what melodrama is. One Piece looks like it could be too melodramatic for me. Into the Spiderverse, Gravity Falls's and Owl House's second seasons are too melodramatic for me even though they're balanced out with comedy. didnt really talk about their backstories though, you might eqate them acting the way they do cause of it, fair point, cause its probably part of it, but i just said i saw myself or related to what happend, or things they did in the story, i didnt like much of their behaviour or ways of being either far from it. are they purely selfish? well a fair bit, |
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