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Aug 27, 2017 12:29 PM
#801
Bozzzz said: EcchiKingMamster said: @TheBrainintheJar Some ppl act as though the only thing that matters is advancing the story and plot and nothing else, just like some of them accuse us of only caring about being turned on. Well I like the integration of boobs and ass into anime and imo it tells us more about who many of us are better so than porn where that kind of stuff is expected and therefore isn't surprising Doing something because you can is more interesting than doing it because you think it makes sense, so is just not giving a fuck If some boobs and paints shots weren't a reason you rate an anime 10 then I could take you slightly seriously. i rate purely out of enjoyment and those are some of the things i enjoy the most in anime.. so ofc im going to give an anime a 10 if i see them at the end of the day nothing matters more than enjoyment yes i am just that entertained by anime to the point where i can just give out free 10s |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 27, 2017 12:48 PM
Aug 27, 2017 1:14 PM
#802
Probably because some people have already created an image for themselves and cannot lighten up at all. I'm like it's okay to enjoy Bakemonogatari and Sora no Otoshimono. No one will think any less of you. |
Aug 27, 2017 1:38 PM
#803
TheBrainintheJar said: urpoutta said: TheBrainintheJar said: urpoutta said: TheBrainintheJar said: urpoutta said: TheBrainintheJar said: scruffs said: urpoutta said: This bait thread still going? I managed to watch HOTD what did you all do during this time? And it wasn't anything special tbh. I would have liked it more if they went even more over the top with their jokes and actually expand some themes they brought up. But y'all who say fanservice ruins the mood and plot, can you throw some titles? So it would be more easy to understand where you're coming from. 'Cause I still see it as just preferences playing a part. A lot were claiming that hotd was serious anime ruined by fanservice. My friend says this, actually. I can see his point - it would've been a fun actioner if it had less boobs. But big anime boobs don't make the show actually bad (boring ass cast, OST you can't remember, badly CGI animated zombies, jumping from one idea to another and not fleshing them out do that imo), that's again just a preference. Same way me thinking it lacked in gore department is just preference. Maybe the concept just sounded good but how they actually approached it just doesn't fit everyone's taste. Tbh when you remove over the top fanservice moments and some other anime tropes it has, you just get another cliched zombie apocalypse story. That has been done too many times and better already. Maybe next I should watch Sexual Paradise: Killer pussy, to continue with Japanese horror. Haven't watched any truly shit movie for a long time. @EcchikingMamster don't you realize? It needs to be taken seriously so they aren't some casual pleb watching cartoons but opinionated pleb watching cartoons. Telling me everything is a preference is like telling me you're about to write your comment in the English language - obvious, unnecessary, redundant. Any argument that the boobs were necessary? Voin minä kyllä suomeksikin kirjoittaa, iha vaa koska vitut mitäs mie mittöö engelsmannien kielt puhuisin Try to argue with me then why sexual fanservice would not fit in there. That's really just all I'm asking here, why they would not suit one series and ruin it (not necessarily HOTD). And I mean in case of writing and directing. Still all I can think off is when it would be actually in bad taste like showing some character doing suicide but in sexy way, and writers trying to say they want to bring awareness to mental illnesses or some horse shit. But why HOTD would have boobs and ass shots you ask? Because horror genre is not all new to sexual tone and yes even so called sexual fanservice. Different reasons why one would have it there but some have it to be as eye candy. Anyway it gives it more personality beyond Something-Zombies-Something-Dead and it's originally a comic, they have more artistic freedom there to twist human body anyway they want making action scenes more extravagant and comical. The show isn't trying to be serious, it's action including zombies and some humor. Maybe one could even say it's a zombie story told in "anime way" like using tropes we are all familiar with. Maneki-Mew said: urpoutta said: Maneki-Mew said: But what's wrong with a "the walking dead in Japan"-story? I can't take anything there serious. XD Not anything really. More so things would get boring quite fast if no series, movie etc. didn't try to add some own twist to them. I don't know. I've seen enough of it and the "camera" of the scenes and the execution let me think: That's so ridiculous. Do the producer themselves even give a fuck and do they take their own anime serious? I imagine them (or the mangaka)... drunk in a bar, making suggestives jokes and writing the battle scenes: "Lool, what if we look at her boobs with this camera angle ..." XD Why not? Some good and funny ideas come up while just throwing some stuff in the air. Rick and Morty isn't a serious and producers do what ever fuck they just want with it. Pretty good show if you ask me. Also never forget Ghost Stories eng dub. I say go for it no matter what weird ass idea it is, if you like it. Bruh this makes me seem like a huge fan of HOTD when I'm not. I give it thumbs up, if it was in anyway inspiration to Tokyo Gore genre. That's some good stuff there. All I'm just interested to hear is where one's idea "fanservice automatically makes a serie's writing bad" comes from. I need to clarify. The objection is not to nudity in and of itself, but sexualized nudity. The Saw films also have some their nudity, but it's never sexual. The series never got its R-rating for sexual content. I actually don't see why a horror story needs sexiness. After all, by its nature it needs to take us outside ourselves, show us something inhuman and disgusting. Sexuality is, well, sexy - the opposite of horrifying. I was more of thinking horror movies that are aimed towards teenagers *cough*slashers*cough* and B-class movies. Then there are those movies that linger on scenes with women getting killed (Snuff 1976), tortured (Guinea Pig; The Devil's experiment 1985) etc. Some even are more like extreme porn. Imo sexuality can also be used to make something shocking and disgusting, or comical. It's natural and normal thing to us, including it with something we would find scary or disgusting would just fuel the shocking factor more. There's also the fact horror movies were more free to add sexual themes, because they have never been favored by academy and critics, and higher rating didn't usually harm them. Including things that were rare or even forbidden in other media was a good way to get more audience and talk about it thanks to controversial content. Nekromantik 1987 is about human sexuality but it's not sexy. Tetsuo the Iron man 1989 has sex scenes but I wouldn't call it sexy. Tokyo Gore Police 2008 also uses sexual themes, but again, I don't think it's sexy. Edit// There's also Elvira's Movie Macabre series with hostess Elvira who is sexual character. It's more comical than those others titles I named. Notice I'm not just talking about sexuality, but sexiness. Lynch, for example, uses sexuality yet his films are not sexy. He uses our sexual impulse to tempt us to find sexiness in something warped, and thus increase the horror. With this distinction, can you clarify your position? Do you mean this kind of sexiness? If so it doesn't really add any actual horror to it, but it's mostly a power fantasy aka scream queens. But some people take it as a feminist thing too, because especially in slasher subgenre it's a trope that the final girl is "pure" and the sexy/sexual active girl gets killed. Men are often excluded from that and aren't necessarily planned to be sexy. Usually those series/movies that have a sexy male character turn out to be some serial killer to make a dark contrast. If were speaking of actual sex it's a bit more complicated. Those usually are exploitation films and there're so many subgenres it's hard to simplify why they would use or need sex in their plot. Edit// @ppl who are talking about books... You guys realize that erotica books are a thing and are more so a women's thing? There are literary erotica writings about getting fucked by a dinosaur like Taken by the T-Rex and this amazing title name A billionaire dinosaur forced me gay. Now that's some good plot there mmmmmm |
konkeloAug 27, 2017 1:48 PM
Aug 27, 2017 1:43 PM
#804
If I want to see boobs and arses I watch hentai. If I want good plot and character development, good setting and in general, a quality anime, I don't want fan service screwing it. For example, Elite Class. It was getting interesting, we finally had a good development regarding MC past, and suddenly BOOOOOOBSSSS episode. Just screwed everything. |
Aug 27, 2017 2:40 PM
#805
Day 57: I still am not sure who makes dumber arguments here, people who like ecchi or who don't. If this fight continues I might lose all the remaining hope in humanity I have left... I must... Endure... It... |
Aug 27, 2017 3:34 PM
#806
It's just not very appealing to me. If its used as a comedy, it quickly becomes overused to me, and while I like some fanservice (and manservice), constantly getting tits shoved in my face gets old quickly too. Or disappointing boy abs, I guess. There's not that much actual manservice though, so eh. |
Aug 27, 2017 3:36 PM
#807
Darek said: Day 57: I still am not sure who makes dumber arguments here, people who like ecchi or who don't. If this fight continues I might lose all the remaining hope in humanity I have left... I must... Endure... It... I really hope it keeps going honestly Just to see how far it will go |
Aug 27, 2017 4:37 PM
#808
Manaban said: Darek said: Day 57: I still am not sure who makes dumber arguments here, people who like ecchi or who don't. If this fight continues I might lose all the remaining hope in humanity I have left... I must... Endure... It... I really hope it keeps going honestly Just to see how far it will go .................................... |
Aug 27, 2017 5:45 PM
#809
@EcchiKingMamster Did you mean me? ^^" I don't know why you are saying it. The art and the sound are very important to me and I believe that these factors are important in general to create a certain mood. So, it's the same for the way you decide to present your art. And? Also, another very important factor are the characters and their developments. Of course, there are shows with kinda likeable and/or reasonable characters, but you aren't here for them. You are watching the anime for some themes in it and / or the art. Mostly both. There are anime with some interesting basic motifs and great art, but you are watching it for the characters, because your heart is with them uhm ... and many shows inbetween. The mixture of all factors create the enjoyment (which is quite easy to destroy with too much fanservice). And yes, I have to admit that it's important that an anime is still an "easy watch"; even if there are heavy themes in it. If it gives me the "this is homework"-feeling, then it's hard for me to finish it. TheBrainintheJar said: This is a good post. Character development and stories will work differently in anime than literature. Of course, this is a visual medium. Yet I've seen plenty of anime with great stories and characters. Nothing about it prevents them from making good stories. Thanks. Thought the same. |
removed-userAug 27, 2017 5:51 PM
Aug 27, 2017 5:57 PM
#810
As always, it depends. The problem is that, when it is done on a show that takes itself slightly seriously, it oftens works more to ruin it than anything. Best example of this is the Araragi sisters. How can anyone take them seriously as actual characters if they are nothing but walking tropes for awkward incest? When it is done on a show like Konosuba, however, I don't mind it, because we were never supposed to take the story seriously anyway. The big problem is when it happens like it was on a parallel line of the story, when it has the characters doing things completely out of their personality just for gags, or worse, when the character is good for nothing but getting naked. |
rapo1Aug 27, 2017 6:00 PM
Aug 27, 2017 6:31 PM
#811
@Maneki-Mew i have no idea what you're responding to Nocturn3 said: If I want to see boobs and arses I watch hentai. If I want good plot and character development, good setting and in general, a quality anime, I don't want fan service screwing it. For example, Elite Class. It was getting interesting, we finally had a good development regarding MC past, and suddenly BOOOOOOBSSSS episode. Just screwed everything. so because of the "boobs episode" you no longer like anything else the show offered you? really? despite there being boobs from the start? did you really expect an anime full of hs girls with big boobs not to have a fanservice episode? Darek said: Day 57: I still am not sure who makes dumber arguments here, people who like ecchi or who don't. If this fight continues I might lose all the remaining hope in humanity I have left... I must... Endure... It... just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 27, 2017 6:41 PM
Aug 27, 2017 6:45 PM
#812
@EcchiKingMamster yada yada yada, sure thing there are people saying dumb stuff about ecchi here. Does not mean the stuff you say is much better if you want me to be honest with you. And well just as I know you won't change, youprobably know already that I am rather honest. And no, no one is forcing me to be a part of this thread but its stupidity is entertaining at times and if I can help someone see another perspective. It is always worth trying, if my reply triggers you... You don't have to read them (I too can play this game.) |
Aug 27, 2017 6:50 PM
#813
Darek said: @EcchiKingMamster yada yada yada, sure thing there are people saying dumb stuff about ecchi here. Does not mean the stuff you say is much better if you want me to be honest with you. And well just as I know you won't change, youprobably know already that I am rather honest. And no, no one is forcing me to be a part of this thread but its stupidity is entertaining at times and if I can help someone see another perspective. It is always worth trying, if my reply triggers you... You don't have to read them (I too can play this game.) so do you even have a stance? cause i don't even recall seeing it.. can you give us a "not dumb" answer to OP? you're treating people in here like their fighting to change eachothers minds instead of just expressing opinion or approval/disapproval of opinion, which you seem to want me to add to the end of everything i say i can understand you not agreeing.. but whats so "dumb" about my stances on ecchi/fanservice? |
Aug 27, 2017 7:02 PM
#814
@EcchiKingMamster I already gave my reply a while back and as I said previously, I refuse to argue with you so I am not start again, it's pointless. |
Aug 27, 2017 7:06 PM
#815
Darek said: @EcchiKingMamster I already gave my reply a while back and as I said previously, I refuse to argue with you so I am not start again, it's pointless. well im sorry, but im tired of being misconstrued.. so many people seem to think i think im some kind of expert when i just do what everyone else does.. give my view/opinion, idk why im a special case, i shouldn't have to add "this is just what i think" to the end of everything i say |
Aug 27, 2017 7:07 PM
#816
As much as I love me some fan service, it's all about timing. Like if I were watching a comedy ecchi anime I will almost always expect random panty shots, but if I were watching a serious anime and a random panty shot happened it would kinda throw off the mood just a little. Because I love fan service. |
Aug 27, 2017 7:10 PM
#817
Yaoiangel16 said: As much as I love me some fan service, it's all about timing. Like if I were watching a comedy ecchi anime I will almost always expect random panty shots, but if I were watching a serious anime and a random panty shot happened it would kinda throw off the mood just a little. Because I love fan service. im just gonna say what i always say.. the anime probably was never serious to begin with or at least not as serious as you thought death, gore, violence, blood, drama =/= serious anime |
Aug 27, 2017 7:12 PM
#818
@EcchiKingMamster Sorry, don't find the sentence again. ^^" Was about the importance of the story development. just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread Pls explain the correlation to me. I have finished 130 TV, a few OVAs and like 90 movies. There isn't too much Ecchi in my quite long PTW-list either and I even don't understand WHY the number of anime you have finished should change your mind in a positive way towards Ecchi. I have so many things I have missed to watch, so I don't see your point why you believe that people suddenly start to watch more Ecchi when they hit a higher number of anime? |
Aug 27, 2017 7:18 PM
#819
Maneki-Mew said: @EcchiKingMamster Sorry, don't find the sentence again. ^^" Was about the importance of the story development. just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread Pls explain the correlation to me. I have finished 130 TV, a few OVAs and like 90 movies. There isn't too much Ecchi in my quite long PTW-list either and I even don't understand WHY the number of anime you have finished should change your mind in a positive way towards Ecchi. I have so many things I have missed to watch, so I don't see your point why you believe that people suddenly start to watch more Ecchi when they hit a higher number of anime? its the same thing as back when we had tons of "anime is getting worse" threads, almost all of them were made by recent joiners who had less than 200 completions. cause people who are newer to something tend to only really notice what is most popular at the time and don't know all the random things they missed from the past that no one talks about so it gives off the impression that people who haven't seen as wide a variety of anime from different decades are far more likely to make ignorant statements like "anime didn't used to be like this" as well as be less accustomed to having for example, boobs shoved in their face you don't see people with 500 completions saying shit like "i wasn't expecting this anime to have a fanservice episode".. no. people who have seen a large number of varied types of anime from different eras know that anime can throw anything at you, so even if they don't necessarily like it, theyre far less likely to say something because they've become accustomed to it get what im saying? |
Aug 27, 2017 7:19 PM
#820
EcchiKingMamster said: just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread Maybe at this point most of their brain is already melted? :D |
Aug 27, 2017 7:34 PM
#821
Personally I like fan service or ecchi but when it isn't handled well, it can get really annoying |
Aug 27, 2017 8:07 PM
#822
EcchiKingMamster said: Maneki-Mew said: @EcchiKingMamster Sorry, don't find the sentence again. ^^" Was about the importance of the story development. just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread Pls explain the correlation to me. I have finished 130 TV, a few OVAs and like 90 movies. There isn't too much Ecchi in my quite long PTW-list either and I even don't understand WHY the number of anime you have finished should change your mind in a positive way towards Ecchi. I have so many things I have missed to watch, so I don't see your point why you believe that people suddenly start to watch more Ecchi when they hit a higher number of anime? its the same thing as back when we had tons of "anime is getting worse" threads, almost all of them were made by recent joiners who had less than 200 completions. cause people who are newer to something tend to only really notice what is most popular at the time and don't know all the random things they missed from the past that no one talks about so it gives off the impression that people who haven't seen as wide a variety of anime from different decades are far more likely to make ignorant statements like "anime didn't used to be like this" as well as be less accustomed to having for example, boobs shoved in their face you don't see people with 500 completions saying shit like "i wasn't expecting this anime to have a fanservice episode".. no. people who have seen a large number of varied types of anime from different eras know that anime can throw anything at you, so even if they don't necessarily like it, theyre far less likely to say something because they've become accustomed to it get what im saying? Yes, I get your point, but still have to disagree. It would be like a mass product to me, if I watched at the same time far more anime than I'm currently watching. And I have never watched so many anime in one year. I still think that I have seen enough different genres since the late 90s to have a good overview, even if there a few classics and (from my point) other "must-watch" are missing yet, but yes, I have seen enough outside of the "mainstream". And it's not like that you get used to something, because you have read enough. I don't know why, but I have read too much bad Yaoi manga in my dumb teenage years and nope, it's not like you can start to ignore all the things bothering you so much years later all of the sudden. The opposite is the case: you are more careful with the next anime and manga you choose in similar cases... it's going to end again like this season and you step in the next disappointment. I didn't made any high expectations, so I dunno... When people say: "I wasn't expecting this anime to have a fanservice episode", it's imo more like: "I don't want it to be there, because that was inappropriate in this anime, scene and mood." You are not going to give up your ideas of how things should be realized to please your taste. They improve and you start to get to know your own taste better and you still don't want it to be there. |
removed-userAug 27, 2017 8:12 PM
Aug 27, 2017 8:32 PM
#823
Maneki-Mew said: Yes, I get your point, but still have to disagree. It would be like a mass product to me, if I watched at the same time far more anime than I'm currently watching. And I have never watched so many anime in one year. I still think that I have seen enough different genres since the late 90s to have a good overview, even if there a few classics and (from my point) other "must-watch" are missing yet, but yes, I have seen enough outside of the "mainstream". And it's not like that you get used to something, because you have read enough. I don't know why, but I have read too much bad Yaoi manga in my dumb teenage years and nope, it's not like you can start to ignore all the things bothering you so much years later all of the sudden. The opposite is the case: you are more careful with the next anime and manga you choose in similar cases... it's going to end again like this season and you step in the next disappointment. I didn't made any high expectations, so I dunno... When people say: "I wasn't expecting this anime to have a fanservice episode", it's imo more like: "I don't want it to be there, because that was inappropriate in this anime, scene and mood." You are not going to give up your ideas of how things should be realized to please your taste. They improve and you start to get to know your own taste better and you still don't want it to be there. i already stated in my last post that it doesn't necessarily change your view point... it just changes the likelihood of you whining about it, which again, is why you almost never seen people above a certain number of completions making certain statements because im me, im gonna go there.. take a statement such as "anime of the past didn't have this much fanservice".. who is more likely to say that? someone who's actually watched a wide variety of anime from the past or someone whos only seen the big names that every talks about? which is how alot of people with low completions are one of the problems is that many anime watchers only like to watch more well known anime or anime that everyone says is good |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 27, 2017 8:37 PM
Aug 27, 2017 8:57 PM
#824
EcchiKingMamster said: Maneki-Mew said: Yes, I get your point, but still have to disagree. It would be like a mass product to me, if I watched at the same time far more anime than I'm currently watching. And I have never watched so many anime in one year. I still think that I have seen enough different genres since the late 90s to have a good overview, even if there a few classics and (from my point) other "must-watch" are missing yet, but yes, I have seen enough outside of the "mainstream". And it's not like that you get used to something, because you have read enough. I don't know why, but I have read too much bad Yaoi manga in my dumb teenage years and nope, it's not like you can start to ignore all the things bothering you so much years later all of the sudden. The opposite is the case: you are more careful with the next anime and manga you choose in similar cases... it's going to end again like this season and you step in the next disappointment. I didn't made any high expectations, so I dunno... When people say: "I wasn't expecting this anime to have a fanservice episode", it's imo more like: "I don't want it to be there, because that was inappropriate in this anime, scene and mood." You are not going to give up your ideas of how things should be realized to please your taste. They improve and you start to get to know your own taste better and you still don't want it to be there. i already stated in my last post that it doesn't necessarily change your view point... it just changes the likelihood of you whining about it, which again, is why you almost never seen people above a certain number of completions making certain statements because im me, im gonna go there.. take a statement such as "anime of the past didn't have this much fanservice".. who is more likely to say that? someone who's actually watched a wide variety of anime from the past or someone whos only seen the big names that every talks about? which is how alot of people with low completions are one of the problems is that many anime watchers only like to watch more well known anime or anime that everyone says is good Yes... they just gave up? ;) I haven't read the "anime of the past didn't have this much fanservice" for a while. I also still think that you don't get the reason of people, who don't like it. It's not like most of them scream: oh no, skin, bring me the holy water! ... or that you drop on everything with fanservice low scores. I scored for example Grimgar with 9, because I could ignore the cringe... the interesting character interactions were stronger than a little bit cringe. Tho there is still a fine line, where it can destroy everything. |
removed-userAug 27, 2017 9:00 PM
Aug 27, 2017 9:12 PM
#825
Maneki-Mew said: Yes... they just gave up? ;) I haven't read the "anime of the past didn't have this much fanservice" for a while. I also still think that you don't get the reason of people, who don't like it. It's not like most of them scream: oh no, skin, bring me the holy water! ... or that you drop on everything with fanservice low scores. I scored for example Grimgar with 9, because I could ignore the cringe... the interesting character interactions were stronger than a little bit cringe. Tho there is still a fine line, where it can destroy everything. omfg lol people who have seen a wide variety of anime from all decades know such statements are bullshit.. they know anime of today isn't vastly different from the past, they know (especially school) anime tend to have fanservice episodes, they know anime with girls with big boobs occasionally shove them in your face, so theyre less likely to say something like "i wasn't expecting this" whether or not they still like it isn't relevant its just more so that they've gotten used to it and are less likely to say something cause they more less already know its bound to happen this doesn't apply to newer people, especially the ones who have only seen the big name anime what about this are you not understanding? did you see the video of the blonde woman complaining about a hip hop song she heard on the radio, and she read the lyrics in a youtube video, crying about how the lyrics were violent, sexual and there were bad words you're gonna tell me someone whos been listening to hip hop for a long time and a wide variety of artists is going to hear a song like that and react the same way? whotf doesn't expect that from hip hop? oh wait.. people who either dont listen to it or haven't heard very many songs |
Aug 27, 2017 10:05 PM
#826
Some people just don't understand the important of a little skin to be shown in anime, it can really push the plot forward. An important example of the increase of plot that a little skin can add is attached to this post. |
Aug 28, 2017 1:59 AM
#827
EcchiKingMamster said: @Maneki-Mew i have no idea what you're responding to Nocturn3 said: If I want to see boobs and arses I watch hentai. If I want good plot and character development, good setting and in general, a quality anime, I don't want fan service screwing it. For example, Elite Class. It was getting interesting, we finally had a good development regarding MC past, and suddenly BOOOOOOBSSSS episode. Just screwed everything. so because of the "boobs episode" you no longer like anything else the show offered you? really? despite there being boobs from the start? did you really expect an anime full of hs girls with big boobs not to have a fanservice episode? Darek said: Day 57: I still am not sure who makes dumber arguments here, people who like ecchi or who don't. If this fight continues I might lose all the remaining hope in humanity I have left... I must... Endure... It... just fucking stop.. i've noticed the majority of people in here criticizing ecchi are people with less than 150 completions who joined this year or last year.. theres definitely a correlation there since you almost never see 400+ completions people making some of these clearly ignorant statements. it seems to mostly be newer people who are only used to anime that everyone talks about, which generally don't have much fanservice you know how i am, i don't change how i am because it annoys some people just like i don't think anime should either if you don't like the shit some of us are saying, well no one is forcing you to be a part of this thread Dude, we already had this argument on the last ep thread. You like ecchi/fan service on every anime, I don't. Also, wasting an entire ep on a 12 ep anime for fan service is nuts. They already cut some parts and worst, changed others. So yes, for me it ruined the anime, and I won't give it more than a 7 (should be a 6.5 or something). |
Aug 28, 2017 2:19 AM
#828
Because it ruined anime and made it into the hellhole it is today. Nothing special though. |
Aug 28, 2017 2:46 AM
#829
EcchiKingMamster said: omfg lol people who have seen a wide variety of anime from all decades know such statements are bullshit.. they know anime of today isn't vastly different from the past, they know (especially school) anime tend to have fanservice episodes, they know anime with girls with big boobs occasionally shove them in your face, so theyre less likely to say something like "i wasn't expecting this" This is a giant pile of lie. I'm going through the 70's these days (before the birth of OVAs and hentai) and I'm struggling to find a boob grab. Man, I have less time watched than you (since it seems to be your new genius argument), but I can already see you're spreading misinformation to defend your stance. And don't post me that Panda Kopanda gif of a non-sexualized 6yo girl walking on her hands while wearing a skirt please. |
DeathkoAug 28, 2017 2:52 AM
Aug 28, 2017 2:51 AM
#830
Nocturn3 said: Dude, we already had this argument on the last ep thread. You like ecchi/fan service on every anime, I don't. Also, wasting an entire ep on a 12 ep anime for fan service is nuts. They already cut some parts and worst, changed others. So yes, for me it ruined the anime, and I won't give it more than a 7 (should be a 6.5 or something). if you don't want SOMEONE to tell you they disagree with you, then don't have an opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ well guess what.. im one of those fucks... Clebardman said: This is a giant pile of lie. I'm going through the 70's these days (before the OVA and birth of hentai) and I'm struggling to find a boob grab. Man, I have less time watched than you (since it seems to be your new genius argument), but I can already see you're spreading misinformation to defend your stance. And don't post me that Panda Kopanda gif of a uno-sexualized 6yo girl walking on her hands while wearing a skirt please. i don't remember saying "watch anime from the 70s and you'll see everything in modern anime"... nice bait though i know your'e disappointed, cause you're eager to fap ;) |
Aug 28, 2017 2:53 AM
#831
Simply because it is used in a bad way all girls have caw breasts and wear clothes that expose too much skin like wtf its as if girls are sex toys while the boys are not used for fanservice and the only thing they like about the girls its that they have big breasts and enjoy watching their panties. Give me a break i am sick and tired of this shit and as a girl i am really offended by anime like high school dxd and girls like rias gremory akeno asia or xenovia. I wonder how anime changed so much back in the early 2000's and before girls had normal breasts and the fanservice was actually funny and not stupid like nowdays |
Aug 28, 2017 2:55 AM
#832
EcchiKingMamster said: well im sorry, but im tired of being misconstrued.. so many people seem to think i think im some kind of expert when i just do what everyone else does.. give my view/opinion, idk why im a special case, i shouldn't have to add "this is just what i think" to the end of everything i say Maybe you're misconstrued because you don't know how to fucking communicate without being an obnoxious child who insults others on purpose? what about this are you not understanding? "waaaah I dunno why people are mean I'm just stating my opinion they're all haters waaaaa" Also, you clearly said something amongst the lines of "Anime never changes, boobs = anime". Well, sorry to point out how much of a lie it is. |
Aug 28, 2017 3:02 AM
#833
Clebardman said: EcchiKingMamster said: well im sorry, but im tired of being misconstrued.. so many people seem to think i think im some kind of expert when i just do what everyone else does.. give my view/opinion, idk why im a special case, i shouldn't have to add "this is just what i think" to the end of everything i say Maybe you're misconstrued because you don't know how to fucking communicate without being an obnoxious child who insults others on purpose? what about this are you not understanding? "waaaah I dunno why people are mean I'm just stating my opinion they're all haters waaaaa" Also, you clearly said something amongst the lines of "Anime never changes, boobs = anime". Well, sorry to point out how much of a lie it is. i said its not vastly different, at least in this thread... but i only watch from the 80s and onward when i watch 80s anime (some of which i saw as a kid, but mostly now) i dont think "why anime has really changed nowadays"... no... not at all yes, anime does focus more now on certain things, but as far as tropes, settings, setups or w/e, its easy to see where they all came from also, minus pantyshots, im pretty sure most ecchi tropes are from the 80s |
Aug 28, 2017 3:09 AM
#834
EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: Dude, we already had this argument on the last ep thread. You like ecchi/fan service on every anime, I don't. Also, wasting an entire ep on a 12 ep anime for fan service is nuts. They already cut some parts and worst, changed others. So yes, for me it ruined the anime, and I won't give it more than a 7 (should be a 6.5 or something). if you don't want SOMEONE to tell you they disagree with you, then don't have an opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ well guess what.. im one of those fucks... Clebardman said: This is a giant pile of lie. I'm going through the 70's these days (before the OVA and birth of hentai) and I'm struggling to find a boob grab. Man, I have less time watched than you (since it seems to be your new genius argument), but I can already see you're spreading misinformation to defend your stance. And don't post me that Panda Kopanda gif of a uno-sexualized 6yo girl walking on her hands while wearing a skirt please. i don't remember saying "watch anime from the 70s and you'll see everything in modern anime"... nice bait though i know your'e disappointed, cause you're eager to fap ;) It's not a matter of disagreeing with you xD Yes, I do disagree, but you have the right to your opinion lol. I just don't like it ;) nor do I have to. |
Aug 28, 2017 3:11 AM
#835
@Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them |
Aug 28, 2017 3:25 AM
#836
EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. |
Aug 28, 2017 3:30 AM
#837
Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day |
Aug 28, 2017 4:05 AM
#838
EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day During summer I watch every ep on the day it's available and my mean socre is 6.2 or something like that. The difference is that I have criteria, you just give high scores because you like it. That's the difference. You like anime, I like Quality anime. |
Aug 28, 2017 4:11 AM
#839
Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day During summer I watch every ep on the day it's available and my mean socre is 6.2 or something like that. The difference is that I have criteria, you just give high scores because you like it. That's the difference. You like anime, I like Quality anime. "Quality anime" Not subjective af or anything No, you're just desperate to look smart and I'm not :D youre critical and I'm not, I have criteria too |
Aug 28, 2017 4:18 AM
#840
EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day During summer I watch every ep on the day it's available and my mean socre is 6.2 or something like that. The difference is that I have criteria, you just give high scores because you like it. That's the difference. You like anime, I like Quality anime. "Quality anime" Not subjective af or anything you're just desperate to look smart and I'm not :D No, you're critical and I'm not, I have criteria too Criteria ahaha nice joke. Boobs and arses, what a criteria. Your mean score is a joke. And no, it isn't subjective, you know why?! Because most of your 10's have a 6 score. And when that happens, anyone can see your ratings are pure shit. I mean, you sort of have a criteria, just a really bad one. ;D |
Aug 28, 2017 4:26 AM
#841
Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day During summer I watch every ep on the day it's available and my mean socre is 6.2 or something like that. The difference is that I have criteria, you just give high scores because you like it. That's the difference. You like anime, I like Quality anime. "Quality anime" Not subjective af or anything you're just desperate to look smart and I'm not :D No, you're critical and I'm not, I have criteria too Criteria ahaha nice joke. Boobs and arses, what a criteria. Your mean score is a joke. And no, it isn't subjective, you know why?! Because most of your 10's have a 6 score. And when that happens, anyone can see your ratings are pure shit. I mean, you sort of have a criteria, just a really bad one. ;D You just reinforced what I said about you trying to look smart, since you mentioned that my 10s are mostly 6s on MAL proving that you are desperate to please the masses and can't make your own decisions :3 :D :D your completion number is joke :D ;D Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi |
Aug 28, 2017 4:36 AM
#842
EcchiKingMamster said: Maneki-Mew said: Yes... they just gave up? ;) I haven't read the "anime of the past didn't have this much fanservice" for a while. I also still think that you don't get the reason of people, who don't like it. It's not like most of them scream: oh no, skin, bring me the holy water! ... or that you drop on everything with fanservice low scores. I scored for example Grimgar with 9, because I could ignore the cringe... the interesting character interactions were stronger than a little bit cringe. Tho there is still a fine line, where it can destroy everything. omfg lol people who have seen a wide variety of anime from all decades know such statements are bullshit.. they know anime of today isn't vastly different from the past, they know (especially school) anime tend to have fanservice episodes, they know anime with girls with big boobs occasionally shove them in your face, so theyre less likely to say something like "i wasn't expecting this" whether or not they still like it isn't relevant its just more so that they've gotten used to it and are less likely to say something cause they more less already know its bound to happen this doesn't apply to newer people, especially the ones who have only seen the big name anime what about this are you not understanding? did you see the video of the blonde woman complaining about a hip hop song she heard on the radio, and she read the lyrics in a youtube video, crying about how the lyrics were violent, sexual and there were bad words you're gonna tell me someone whos been listening to hip hop for a long time and a wide variety of artists is going to hear a song like that and react the same way? whotf doesn't expect that from hip hop? oh wait.. people who either dont listen to it or haven't heard very many songs I understand every part. I just don't agree with you and you seem you can't deal with the fact that people disagree with you. XD Of course, most fans don't start with the most obscure and hidden anime ever - most of them don't have Ecchi to begin with. So, they know from the very beginning that heavy fanservice isn't necessary, because they have seen many anime without it and they worked out well. Adding too much fanservice, distracts them. It doesn't change anything for other people, if you are going to believe that or not. Implying that all rap is for 14 y/o wannabe gangsters? XD I have heard enough of every genre in 24 years and yes, you don't need that either and no, I don't want that either. Nocturn3 said: Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. EcchiKingMamster said: yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching But you didn't score most of them? I won't judge. My score is also very high, but pls tell me your principes behind them. Would you rate the ones without a score (mostly 10) lower? |
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Aug 28, 2017 4:46 AM
#843
EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: Nocturn3 said: EcchiKingMamster said: @Nocturn3 yes, and my opinion is that i disagree with your opinion.. which is the whole point of why im here this is anime DISCUSSION.. if everyone just had a circlejerk about why they don't like ecchi/fanservice that would defeat the discussion purpose. so we need the triggered ecchi/fanservice fan to tell everyone why he doesn't agree with them Yeah sure, but to be honest, your mean score is 9.97, and that say's all. yes because I like anime that much, it never bores me and I don't take breaks from watching In other words as long as there's a new episode of a show I'm watching, then I'm watching it that day During summer I watch every ep on the day it's available and my mean socre is 6.2 or something like that. The difference is that I have criteria, you just give high scores because you like it. That's the difference. You like anime, I like Quality anime. "Quality anime" Not subjective af or anything you're just desperate to look smart and I'm not :D No, you're critical and I'm not, I have criteria too Criteria ahaha nice joke. Boobs and arses, what a criteria. Your mean score is a joke. And no, it isn't subjective, you know why?! Because most of your 10's have a 6 score. And when that happens, anyone can see your ratings are pure shit. I mean, you sort of have a criteria, just a really bad one. ;D You just reinforced what I said about you trying to look smart, since you mentioned that my 10s are mostly 6s on MAL proving that you are desperate to please the masses and can't make your own decisions :3 :D :D your completion number is joke :D ;D Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi Looking smart?! It's a FACT you idiot. You just have to go to the anime page and see it. And btw, the masses give high ratings, so that stupid argument won't work ^^ That's why top 10/20 is full of garbage anime. Every single anime critic would say the same about your ratings, they are shit. @Maneki-Mew I'm the one that said that regarding his ratings... |
Aug 28, 2017 4:52 AM
#844
@Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping (... without the name dropping). ^^" |
Aug 28, 2017 5:03 AM
#845
Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And it's affecting the anime industry. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. |
Aug 28, 2017 5:13 AM
#846
Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. It's not about the Ecchi per se and I don't know why you argue against me, when you maybe have read my last posts? Just the general vibes of "This is a fact and my ratings are the right ones" (+ insults, because that makes everything better of course lol). That's why I asked him about the reason behind the many unreated anime. And I don't care about other people's mean score too much, when they don't rub it in my face. I don't even care about mine too much. It's a number. On a website for otakus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, I could leave blanks everywhere, but I don't like the idea of it. |
Aug 28, 2017 5:20 AM
#847
Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. It's not about the Ecchi per se and I don't know why you argue against me, when you maybe have read my last posts? Just the general vibes of "This is a fact and my ratings are the right ones" (+ insults, because that makes everything better of course lol). That's why I asked him about the reason behind the many unreated anime. And I don't care about other people's mean score too much, when they don't rub it in my face. I don't even care about mine too much. It's a number. On a website for otakus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, I could leave blanks everywhere, but I don't like the idea of it. He already said what his criteria is :"Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi" People that can't see past the boobs and stuff annoy me. It's proof of a tremendous lack of taste and lack of depth. And I'll bash it every time I see it. Criteria is crucial in everything, without it everything would be random chaos. I guess my signature says enough. |
Aug 28, 2017 6:28 AM
#848
Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. It's not about the Ecchi per se and I don't know why you argue against me, when you maybe have read my last posts? Just the general vibes of "This is a fact and my ratings are the right ones" (+ insults, because that makes everything better of course lol). That's why I asked him about the reason behind the many unreated anime. And I don't care about other people's mean score too much, when they don't rub it in my face. I don't even care about mine too much. It's a number. On a website for otakus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, I could leave blanks everywhere, but I don't like the idea of it. He already said what his criteria is :"Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi" People that can't see past the boobs and stuff annoy me. It's proof of a tremendous lack of taste and lack of depth. And I'll bash it every time I see it. Criteria is crucial in everything, without it everything would be random chaos. I guess my signature says enough. I don't even disagree with you, but it's not my account and I think I have to accept or at least swallow it, even if I can't understand that kind of approach. Tbh, I think there is also a little bit show behind that, sry @EcchiKingMamster , because there are also not too few anime you don't watch for boobs and ass / I can't believe that you aren't interested in other things there besides boobs, asses and "Oh, that character is cute." Maybe you do, I can't tell, but it's hard to believe that somebody watches Digimon Tri because of a little, cute bathhouse scene where you can't see anything at all for example lol. And still ask myself what you try to prove to others with "look at my signature!" That's not an important discussion about politics, it's about taste in anime and there isn't something like "a lack of taste". Bashing means that you have an unhealthy obsession yourself and want to prove something? ;) Imo he and you don't act so different, when you can't accept that other people don't agree with you. EcchiKingMamster gives me the vibe that he holds the opinion "the argument 'it's distracting and cringy' is a lie". |
Aug 28, 2017 7:00 AM
#849
Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. It's not about the Ecchi per se and I don't know why you argue against me, when you maybe have read my last posts? Just the general vibes of "This is a fact and my ratings are the right ones" (+ insults, because that makes everything better of course lol). That's why I asked him about the reason behind the many unreated anime. And I don't care about other people's mean score too much, when they don't rub it in my face. I don't even care about mine too much. It's a number. On a website for otakus. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, I could leave blanks everywhere, but I don't like the idea of it. He already said what his criteria is :"Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi" People that can't see past the boobs and stuff annoy me. It's proof of a tremendous lack of taste and lack of depth. And I'll bash it every time I see it. Criteria is crucial in everything, without it everything would be random chaos. I guess my signature says enough. I don't even disagree with you, but it's not my account and I think I have to accept or at least swallow it, even if I can't understand that kind of approach. Tbh, I think there is also a little bit show behind that, sry @EcchiKingMamster , because there are also not too few anime you don't watch for boobs and ass / I can't believe that you aren't interested in other things there besides boobs, asses and "Oh, that character is cute." Maybe you do, I can't tell, but it's hard to believe that somebody watches Digimon Tri because of a little, cute bathhouse scene where you can't see anything at all for example lol. And still ask myself what you try to prove to others with "look at my signature!" That's not an important discussion about politics, it's about taste in anime and there isn't something like "a lack of taste". Bashing means that you have an unhealthy obsession yourself and want to prove something? ;) Imo he and you don't act so different, when you can't accept that other people don't agree with you. EcchiKingMamster gives me the vibe that he holds the opinion "the argument 'it's distracting and cringy' is a lie". Again, you should read everything... Like 1 or 2 pages ago, I said "you have the right to your opinion", yet, he kept pushing and pushing. I said, and I quote: " I guess my signature says enough." and it says enough about me and what I defend. I apply it in everything. There is something as lack of taste. You can score and anime from 1-10, and there is a reason for that. Some things are objectively crap and others objectively good. That's what allows people to say that x Symphony/Book is a masterpiece. Same goes for anime. And no, I don't need to prove a thing to anyone, but I won't hold back my opinion. Unhealthy?! No, it's just that lack of standards is something that is disgusting to me. |
Aug 28, 2017 7:28 AM
#850
Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: Nocturn3 said: Maneki-Mew said: @Nocturn3 Sry, I fixed that. Anyway, that attitude is annoying too. "I say that's shit, so everyone has to agree?" Why do you need the help of anime critics to support your arguments? Stand up for yourself instead of doing the name dropping. ^^" My attitude?! Lol... Just go through the posts before making comments like that. I stated my opinion several times with justifications, both here and on the last ep thread of "Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e". Main points being: The absurd amount of ecchi on anime, and the fact it ruins a lot of them. Why?! To begin with, fan service episodes don't contribute to the plot, they are there for guys to masturbate while watching. You could take every single fan service episode and it wouldn't affect the plot significantly. Secondly, they make female characters look like attention whores. It frustrates me that people can't find a female character good because of it's relevance/personality, but if she has big boobs she's 5*. Also, it makes anime look bad. Why?! Because in case you all forgot, anime is also art, such as literature and movies. A lot of animus represent daily problems, have social critics, or simply want to show a better version of the world. The amount of people who can actually see that, is absurdly low. And critics exist to create quality standards, they are a point of reference that can be used in argumentation, not that I need it. And if you think someone who has a 9.7 mean score has something like a decent criteria, gosh that's bad. It's not about the Ecchi per se and I don't know why you argue against me, when you maybe have read my last posts? Just the general vibes of "This is a fact and my ratings are the right ones" (+ insults, because that makes everything better of course lol). That's why I asked him about the reason behind the many unreated anime. And I don't care about other people's mean score too much, when they don't rub it in my face. I don't even care about mine too much. It's a number. On a website for otakus. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I mean, I could leave blanks everywhere, but I don't like the idea of it. He already said what his criteria is :"Hot girls, boobs and ass = best criteria... Fite mii boi" People that can't see past the boobs and stuff annoy me. It's proof of a tremendous lack of taste and lack of depth. And I'll bash it every time I see it. Criteria is crucial in everything, without it everything would be random chaos. I guess my signature says enough. I don't even disagree with you, but it's not my account and I think I have to accept or at least swallow it, even if I can't understand that kind of approach. Tbh, I think there is also a little bit show behind that, sry @EcchiKingMamster , because there are also not too few anime you don't watch for boobs and ass / I can't believe that you aren't interested in other things there besides boobs, asses and "Oh, that character is cute." Maybe you do, I can't tell, but it's hard to believe that somebody watches Digimon Tri because of a little, cute bathhouse scene where you can't see anything at all for example lol. And still ask myself what you try to prove to others with "look at my signature!" That's not an important discussion about politics, it's about taste in anime and there isn't something like "a lack of taste". Bashing means that you have an unhealthy obsession yourself and want to prove something? ;) Imo he and you don't act so different, when you can't accept that other people don't agree with you. EcchiKingMamster gives me the vibe that he holds the opinion "the argument 'it's distracting and cringy' is a lie". Again, you should read everything... Like 1 or 2 pages ago, I said "you have the right to your opinion", yet, he kept pushing and pushing. I said, and I quote: " I guess my signature says enough." and it says enough about me and what I defend. I apply it in everything. There is something as lack of taste. You can score and anime from 1-10, and there is a reason for that. Some things are objectively crap and others objectively good. That's what allows people to say that x Symphony/Book is a masterpiece. Same goes for anime. And no, I don't need to prove a thing to anyone, but I won't hold back my opinion. Unhealthy?! No, it's just that lack of standards is something that is disgusting to me. Okay, I should have, but I think you are wasting your own energy on something like that, coming with great adjectives like "DEFEND" and that's just ridiculous imo. And no, objectivity is for science, not for art. But there are far too many topics for that to discuss it here too. I had enough of that. |
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