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May 3, 2017 5:06 AM
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I just completed Dark Souls:PtD weeks ago and thinking about buying Dark Souls 3,Nioh or Bloodborne in future. DS is definitely the hardest game I ever play and while I manage to complete and enjoy it,I wouldn't say I am very pro at this game. I'm afraid if Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 or Nioh is harder,I might not able to beat them,thus wasted my money. On my first playthrough, I use help from pyromancer to beat O&S, 4 Kings and Gwyn. Second playthrough with new character,I manage to beat the bosses solo melee though I need Havel armor to help me tank 4 kings. The rest I beat them with my Claymore and Elite Knight Set build.

So how hard is DS3,Nioh and Bloodbonre compare to the first Dark Souls?

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Difficulty aside, can someone share with me which one are the best game among DS,DS 3,Bloodborne and Nioh?
ZapredonMay 6, 2017 11:00 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
May 3, 2017 5:20 AM
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Dark Souls 3 is more or less on the same level of difficulty, since you've played DS1 and beaten it, you should be more or less accustomed to it the mechanics in the DS series so it shouldn't be that much of an issue.

Bloodborne will probably take a little time to get use too the playstyle. If you were a defensive player in DS1, you might have trouble adapting to its quicker playstyle as you get no shields and rely solely on dodging and parrying. There's a joke shield in-game to take jabs at people. Though parrying is easier to initiate in Bloodborne compared to DS games so once you get the feel for it, it will probably feel easier than the DS games at that point.
May 3, 2017 6:07 AM
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Bloodborne > Nioh > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls

From hardest to easiest.
May 3, 2017 10:43 AM
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The Souls formula only works once. I would say all the other games are easier, but that's because you already played one of them. If you had played DS3 first, then that would've been the hardest.

Why do you worry about not being able to beat the game though? Unless the game's design is horribly bad, every game is beatable. Souls isn't even that hard.
May 3, 2017 10:48 AM
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Lord_Sithis said:
The Souls formula only works once. I would say all the other games are easier, but that's because you already played one of them. If you had played DS3 first, then that would've been the hardest.
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Lord_Sithis said:
The Souls formula only works once. I would say all the other games are easier, but that's because you already played one of them. If you had played DS3 first, then that would've been the hardest.
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.
Indeed, but you'll adapt to that fast, and once you do, you'll have an easier time than with the first one you played.
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Lord_Sithis said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.
Indeed, but you'll adapt to that fast, and once you do, you'll have an easier time than with the first one you played.
Depends really. A newbie who starts with DS3 may do a better job adapting to the game more than a turtler from Dark Souls 1 and 2.

While a newbie just has to learn, the turtler will have to forget his playstyle and learn a new one entirely.
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Play Bloodborne without patching it. If it's too hard then using the item dupe glitch is an option. You'll be able to easily level up. The game will still kick your ass if you aren't paying attention, but its much more forgiving.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Lord_Sithis said:
The Souls formula only works once. I would say all the other games are easier, but that's because you already played one of them. If you had played DS3 first, then that would've been the hardest.
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.


I use two handed in Dark Souls 1 against bosses but I do use shield against all those non bosses enemy. Will I have problem in DS3,Bloodnore and Nioh?

I feel shield are useless against boss because they take away your stamina to block them, so I just give up on shield and prefer dodging the boss.
ZapredonMay 3, 2017 12:14 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Zapredon said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.


I use two handed in Dark Souls 1 against bosses but I do use shield against all those non bosses enemy. Will I have problem in DS3,Bloodnore and Nioh?
If you can't parry for shit you might struggle with Nioh. If you can't make quick and aggressive decisions then you'll struggle with Bloodborne. Dark Souls 3 will only be a struggle if you rely too much on a shield.
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Nioh is brutal man. I ended up trading it because I couldn't be bothered with it anymore.
'The way of the wang is long...and hard'
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Lord_Sithis said:
The Souls formula only works once. I would say all the other games are easier, but that's because you already played one of them. If you had played DS3 first, then that would've been the hardest.
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.


This is wrong for DS3. I tanked the "supposed" hardest bosses (Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armor, Soul of Cynder, Friede, Twin Princes, Abyss Walkers..you name it) and cheesed Nameless King with a bow because I was having trouble with my rolls using light armor (since I found tanking in DS1 pointless and much faster to just roll out of the way).

Game was overall far easier than Dark Souls 1 too. Demons Souls is still the easiest and Dark Souls 2 is the hardest (albeit for wrong reasons).
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SH4kun said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Not really. If you made it through Dark Souls competently but your playstyle involved heavy use of a shield, you will struggle more in DS3, Bloodborne, and Nioh since they encourage you to use a playstyle that doesn't involve a shield.


This is wrong for DS3. I tanked the "supposed" hardest bosses (Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armor, Soul of Cynder, Friede, Twin Princes, Abyss Walkers..you name it) and cheesed Nameless King with a bow because I was having trouble with my rolls using light armor (since I found tanking in DS1 pointless and much faster to just roll out of the way).

Game was overall far easier than Dark Souls 1 too. Demons Souls is still the easiest and Dark Souls 2 is the hardest (albeit for wrong reasons).
Bullshit. Miyazaki made sure tanking is near impossible to do in the game.

Almost every boss has an element imbued into their weapon. He also made sure bosses had relentless stamina killing attacks. Lastly, he made poise useless, effectively ending all forms of tankfaggotry.

Unless you grinded endlessly, which is a possibility considering you had the patience to cheese nameless king with a bow, you may as well buy the game, pick a mage build, and summon people for help you big baby.

And no, if that's not what you mean, blocking 2-3 hits of a phase before spamming roll is not tanking.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
SH4kun said:


This is wrong for DS3. I tanked the "supposed" hardest bosses (Champion Gundyr, Dragonslayer Armor, Soul of Cynder, Friede, Twin Princes, Abyss Walkers..you name it) and cheesed Nameless King with a bow because I was having trouble with my rolls using light armor (since I found tanking in DS1 pointless and much faster to just roll out of the way).

Game was overall far easier than Dark Souls 1 too. Demons Souls is still the easiest and Dark Souls 2 is the hardest (albeit for wrong reasons).
Bullshit.


Nope.



That was my build. First playthrough, level 90, 32 hours played with every single boss including those from Ashes of Andariel beaten. Mace+10, Shield of Want, Fallen Knight Set + Havel Head (but that one was MUCH later). I used that all the way to the end.

Beat Nameless King with the Black bow of pharis and 99 Dark Arrows


Game was a lot easier than the first one.
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In my opinion, it goes like this, from hardest (left) to easiest (right):

DS1 ~= Bloodbourne > DS3 > Nioh

Nioh had some tough moments, but its very much so the easiest out of the bunch. Especially when you end up fighting the same recycled fucking boss 8 times.
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i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4.
It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!"

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SH4kun said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Bullshit.


Nope.



That was my build. First playthrough, level 90, 32 hours played with every single boss including those from Ashes of Andariel beaten. Mace+10, Shield of Want, Fallen Knight Set + Havel Head (but that one was MUCH later). I used that all the way to the end.

Beat Nameless King with the Black bow of pharis and 99 Dark Arrows


Game was a lot easier than the first one.
A fallen knight set and a shield of want? No way you were tanking with that set. You were rolling.
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In my opinion, it goes like this, from hardest (left) to easiest (right):

DS1 ~= Bloodbourne > DS3 > Nioh

Nioh had some tough moments, but its very much so the easiest out of the bunch. Especially when you end up fighting the same recycled fucking boss 8 times.
Nioh is insultingly easy when you abuse Sloth and Ohmyo Magic buffs but when you ignore that, it's challenging, more so than Dark Souls and Dark Souls 3 when you play through the first half and enemies aren't feeling repetitive.

Honestly I really can't see why people consider DS the hardest. Mechanically, it's slower than DS3. Enemies are fatter and more predictable. Enemies are also more susceptible to circlestrafing and backstabbing. Tanking and turtling like a chump is actually a viable option. The only thing DS has going for it is as a challenge is the surprise cheese attacks but that's not true difficulty. Nor is balancing yourself on glitchy environments with a stuttering 12 fps. Or the lack lf explanations for various game mechaanics.
May 4, 2017 5:09 AM

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What about the bosses? How hard are they compare to O&S, Artorias, Manus, Kalameet and 4 Kings?

Difficulty aside, which game is the best between DS3,Nioh and Bloodborne?
ZapredonMay 4, 2017 6:56 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Nioh is insultingly easy when you abuse Sloth and Ohmyo Magic buffs but when you ignore that, it's challenging, more so than Dark Souls and Dark Souls 3 when you play through the first half and enemies aren't feeling repetitive.

Honestly I really can't see why people consider DS the hardest. Mechanically, it's slower than DS3. Enemies are fatter and more predictable. Enemies are also more susceptible to circlestrafing and backstabbing. Tanking and turtling like a chump is actually a viable option. The only thing DS has going for it is as a challenge is the surprise cheese attacks but that's not true difficulty. Nor is balancing yourself on glitchy environments with a stuttering 12 fps. Or the lack lf explanations for various game mechaanics.


Those are some pretty valid points. I never used a single talisman in nioh other than some fire ones while fighting umi-boozu. Its the only game out of the bunch that I ever completed 100% solo, but perhaps its just me getting a bit better at these types of games. The only ones that gave me trouble during the game were the first boss' pre-requisite git gud difficulty barrier and the samurai guy in the field (and that side quest with two eagle statues at once was complete bullshit).

I think I attribute DS1 difficulty to its lack of refinement. If you were to theoretically hold up DS1 to DS3 if they had the same refinement and budget, I think DS1 would be easier. Its just the performance and quirks of the game that add some "artificial" difficulty.

I just personally had more trouble with other games of this type than Nioh. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

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i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4.
It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!"

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They're all more difficult than dark souls, don't believe anyone that says otherwise
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Dark Souls III is harder than Dark Souls. The bosses are more relentless, have more stamina. No one in Dark Souls compares to Pontiff Sulyvahn and Soul of Cinder.

I liked Dark Souls and Dark Souls II better than III, though. At least II tried some new things and had an original story. III felt lazy. I was also pretty fatigued of the series by III and put only 60 hours into it.
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
A fallen knight set and a shield of want? No way you were tanking with that set. You were rolling.


It was a max level shield of want IIRC. Twin Princes and Soul of Cinder DID damage me even with the shield on though (like, chips of health?) but I'm pretty sure Dancer, Ocelot (or whatever the crazy dragon name was) and Gundyr didn't (later DID break my guard with three strikes and threw me around multiple times with the kick, but it did close to no damage), but I feared rolling around all over the place would cost me the encounter, so for the most part I decided to just hold the shield while moving around the area.

Soul of Cinder was the hardest boss (aside from Nameless King) because I just couldn't roll for shit and I tried to block his second phase (the final attack, multiple slashes and shit), which made me die repeateadly over and over again

PD: Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that I changed my Shield of Want for the Havel Shield for Friede and SoC (Nameless I used the bow), my bad. 100% sure that the ones I mentioned above where tanked with the shield of want (and that strategy was as soon as Abyss Watchers). I wouldn't really gain anything from lying just to "win" an internet argument.
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Id rank nioh the easiest by FAR then bloodborne. Mainly because they dont confuse you about how the game should be played. Shields and the passivity it induced is why most people have problems with those games.
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I'd go +1 for paul I think.
Haven't played ds games beyond the first but difficulty in dark souls is a little tricky for the internets to pin down, it features academic and reactive and spatial difficulties like every soulslike, but in reality it's about knowledge rather than mastery or reflexes or whatever, meaning you have to go back to places which killed you (lots of evil set pieces and bosses) to gather knowledge and build experience (about puzzels, about overall lethality of rooms, paths, boss patterns etc) and exercise in last minute attacks and the like (discussions of what people thinks to be relative degrees of difficulty like who swings faster or has a better equip or has a shield don't make sense as much as talking about an overall different experience for each game, so really which souls game drained you the most with repetition and compendium knowledge).

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DS3 is, technically speaking, on the same level as DS1. But DS3 might feel easier since you're used to DS's gameplay mechanics now. Bloodborne on the other hand, you can find it being much harder than DS1, or much easier. Bloodborne requires you to play in a more aggressive matter and the game will only get easy once you adjust yourself to the way the game wants you to play. I haven't played Nioh yet despite owning it. I really need to get the time to play the game :/
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According to the result of this poll, Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls 3? Agree?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/74807420
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Zapredon said:
According to the result of this poll, Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls 3? Agree?


Fore sure, DS3 is good but Bloodborne is something else.
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Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls
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PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Bloodborne > Nioh > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls

From hardest to easiest.
Are you sure BB and N shouldn't be switched around?
(hard) Nioh > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (easy)

@Zapredon, Bloodborne's mechanics turn from WTF this is hard to EZ BOI depending on your skill level and ability to "parry". You do not get some kind of random shit that get you killed, it is all up to you. While Dark Souls games are just plain bullshit and cheat in their own system vs the player.
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ExTemplar said:
PeenusWeenusCaim said:
Bloodborne > Nioh > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls

From hardest to easiest.
Are you sure BB and N shouldn't be switched around?
(hard) Nioh > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (easy)

@Zapredon, Bloodborne's mechanics turn from WTF this is hard to EZ BOI depending on your skill level and ability to "parry". You do not get some kind of random shit that get you killed, it is all up to you. While Dark Souls games are just plain bullshit and cheat in their own system vs the player.


Can you parry bosses in BB? In DS,Gwyn is the only boss that can be parry. Does parry applicable to all bosses in BB?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Zapredon said:
ExTemplar said:
Are you sure BB and N shouldn't be switched around?
(hard) Nioh > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (easy)

@Zapredon, Bloodborne's mechanics turn from WTF this is hard to EZ BOI depending on your skill level and ability to "parry". You do not get some kind of random shit that get you killed, it is all up to you. While Dark Souls games are just plain bullshit and cheat in their own system vs the player.


Can you parry bosses in BB? In DS,Gwyn is the only boss that can be parry. Does parry applicable to all bosses in BB?
Human/Hunter bosses can be parried (can be abused actually). Non human bosses have weak areas, if you deal enough damage they become available for visceral attack (backstab/parry). Also there are some bosses that can be crippled.

As far as I remember you can perform a visceral attack on every boss (except 2 that don't really need that anyway). Those enemies that can't be, can be staggered by some weapons though.
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Is it also true that BB has less mandatory bosses compare to DS?
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http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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in my opinion DS is harder than BB or DS3 (haven't played Nioh). DS has some pretty unfair areas (e.g. Anor Londo Archers) and harder bosses (DS3 only has the nameless King and BB ebrietas). so i'd say it's something like this:

DS2>DS>Demon Souls>DS3>BB

Zapredon said:
Is it also true that BB has less mandatory bosses compare to DS?

i think it's pretty equal. in both games you have those bosses that block your way and those you can skip or even miss (painted world)


edit: without the DLCs...
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ExTemplar said:
Are you sure BB and N shouldn't be switched around?
(hard) Nioh > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (easy)

@Zapredon, Bloodborne's mechanics turn from WTF this is hard to EZ BOI depending on your skill level and ability to "parry". You do not get some kind of random shit that get you killed, it is all up to you. While Dark Souls games are just plain bullshit and cheat in their own system vs the player.
After the first half Nioh is easy as fuck. The enemy variety sucks so once you get the patterns down for the handful of enemies in the game it's a cakewalk. Even without ohmyo magic it's "Just Parry Dude: The Game".

It's harder than Dark Souls 3 and Dark Souls though because of the fewer iframes and stricter stamina management system.
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Are you kidding me, they still haven't fix this issues? Did same thing happen in Bloodborne where opponents can hit through wall?

ZapredonMay 7, 2017 10:07 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Dark souls 1 is often over hyped (nostalgia goggles.) i found dark souls 2 harder DS3 is slightly the same difficulty as DS1

however out of the ones i enjoyed i would have to go with DS3 currently
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Are you kidding me, they still haven't fix this issues? Did same thing happen in Bloodborne where opponents can hit through wall?



enemies could always hit through walls even in Dark souls 1 only players can't.

this is never going to change
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hazerddex said:
Dark souls 1 is often over hyped (nostalgia goggles.) i found dark souls 2 harder DS3 is slightly the same difficulty as DS1

however out of the ones i enjoyed i would have to go with DS3 currently
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Are you kidding me, they still haven't fix this issues? Did same thing happen in Bloodborne where opponents can hit through wall?



enemies could always hit through walls even in Dark souls 1 only players can't.

this is never going to change


Yeah I know. That prowling demon from Anor Londo hit me through wall,then since he's optional I just decided to skip him but it piss me off so much when he does that that time. Does Bloodborne has the same problem?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Zapredon said:
hazerddex said:
Dark souls 1 is often over hyped (nostalgia goggles.) i found dark souls 2 harder DS3 is slightly the same difficulty as DS1

however out of the ones i enjoyed i would have to go with DS3 currently


enemies could always hit through walls even in Dark souls 1 only players can't.

this is never going to change


Yeah I know. That prowling demon from Anor Londo hit me through wall,then since he's optional I just decided to skip him but it piss me off so much when he does that that time. Does Bloodborne has the same problem?


i don't own a ps4 so i wouldn't know.

consoles are to expensive to keep up with i prefer pc.
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From what I have heard from people who played Bloodborne and completed it than played Dark Souls 3.

Is that Bloodborne makes Dark Souls 3 alot easier, Cause you are more used to not having to block.
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ExTemplar said:
Are you sure BB and N shouldn't be switched around?
(hard) Nioh > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 1 > Dark Souls 3 (easy)

@Zapredon, Bloodborne's mechanics turn from WTF this is hard to EZ BOI depending on your skill level and ability to "parry". You do not get some kind of random shit that get you killed, it is all up to you. While Dark Souls games are just plain bullshit and cheat in their own system vs the player.
After the first half Nioh is easy as fuck. The enemy variety sucks so once you get the patterns down for the handful of enemies in the game it's a cakewalk. Even without ohmyo magic it's "Just Parry Dude: The Game".

It's harder than Dark Souls 3 and Dark Souls though because of the fewer iframes and stricter stamina management system.
You were right, I am playing Nioh, 22 hours in and it got extremly easier over time.

Oct 31, 2017 11:47 PM
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Dark Souls 3: The main isn't at all that challenging compared to Dark Souls or Demon's Souls. Only the Nameless King and the DLC bosses gave me trouble.

Bloodborne: The main game isn't too bad if you know how to parry and play aggressively. I consider the main game easier than Dark Souls I. That being said the DLC area is as tough as the series gets.

Nioh: I'm not sure what to make of this game's difficulty. On one hand you have very limited I-frames and a strict stamina/Ki system. One the other hand there isn't a whole lot of enemy variety and ninjitsu and Onmyo buffs/debuffs turn most bosses into jokes. It's really grind-y though, especially when you get into the higher difficulties.
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BloodBorne is the hardest IMO DS series is bad too, they toned it down in 3 IMO. 1 and 2 are harder. Another thats just as bad, tho completely random with this is The Original Crash Bandicoot HD Remastered
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Bloodborne is harder than the other souls games especially the dlc. Dark Souls 3 takes a bit to get used to since some of the bosses wait for you to roll and then attack. But honestly, they're more or less the same kind of difficulty - starts out hard then when you've grinded them long enough you learn the mechanics and enemy patterns inside out.
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I'm surprised a lot of people here consider BB to be the hardest among them. Losing the ability to block can be a pain, but a lot of beneficial features make up for it. The Rally mechanic, forgiving parry window with guns, and enemies dropping blood vials like candy are some of the reasons I was able to finish BB and its DLC rather easily. Only Orphan of Kos and some of the Chalice dungeon bosses were truly challenging imo.

Meanwhile, DS1 and DS3 triggered me real good. I remember being stuck in Ornstein & Smough for like a full month in DS1, and I wasn't even able to beat Nameless King and Ringed City in DS3 without a friend helping me in co-op.

Nioh is excruciatingly hard at first, but oh man does the game become laughably easy once you get an OP build running or obtain the Sloth talisman. It's hilarious seeing bosses melt in seconds using my Kunai/Kusarigama build.

Tl;dr my difficulty ranking is Nioh (early) > DS1 = DS3 > BB > DS2 > Nioh (late)

BB is easily my favorite from all of them however because of its great story, atmosphere, and weapon selection.
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Tl;dr my difficulty ranking is Nioh (early) > DS1 = DS3 > BB > DS2 > Nioh (late)
DS3 hard? Really? I thought bosses were some of the weakest in the series. No challenge after previous 4 games

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For me, its BB > DS > DS3 > Nioh

(Hardest to easiest)

This is mostly an opinion question though.
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i have palpable amounts of salt for FO4.
It's like a clown put on my dead dad's clothes and is running around my house going "LOOK I'M YOUR DAD, ISN'T THIS FUN?!?!"

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Zapredon said:
Is it also true that BB has less mandatory bosses compare to DS?

Yeah in bloodborne if you just run through the mandatory stuff, you can miss half the bosses XD.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
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ExTemplar said:
Skittles said:
Tl;dr my difficulty ranking is Nioh (early) > DS1 = DS3 > BB > DS2 > Nioh (late)
DS3 hard? Really? I thought bosses were some of the weakest in the series. No challenge after previous 4 games

I think what made DS3 difficult for me were the level designs moreso than the bosses themselves. Other than the Nameless King and Darkeater Midir, the bosses range from only fairly difficult to downright easy. But some of the levels were super painful. Some annoying places I remember were the Catacombs (pitfalls), Irithyll Dungeon (jailors), Archdragon Peak (especially near the Nameless King's arena), and pretty much the entirety of Ringed City lol.
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Skittles said:
ExTemplar said:
DS3 hard? Really? I thought bosses were some of the weakest in the series. No challenge after previous 4 games

I think what made DS3 difficult for me were the level designs moreso than the bosses themselves. Other than the Nameless King and Darkeater Midir, the bosses range from only fairly difficult to downright easy. But some of the levels were super painful. Some annoying places I remember were the Catacombs (pitfalls), Irithyll Dungeon (jailors), Archdragon Peak (especially near the Nameless King's arena), and pretty much the entirety of Ringed City lol.
fair enough, i see your point

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