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Mar 5, 2017 7:09 AM
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Since Persona 4 did get an M rating and Berseria got a T rating. I wonder which is more violent: Tales Of Berseria or Persona 4
Mar 5, 2017 7:16 AM
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Seems odd that Persona 4 was rated M. Maybe it has to do with the relationship stuff and the murders. Or maybe it was the use of alcohol.
Mar 6, 2017 7:00 AM
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SpamuraiSensei said:
Seems odd that Persona 4 was rated M. Maybe it has to do with the relationship stuff and the murders. Or maybe it was the use of alcohol.

It has more to do with the swearing, implied attempts at rape, and the corpses dangling from.........

Uh..........

..........wherever they were dangling from, than the S.Links.

Mar 6, 2017 7:02 AM
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Persona 4 rated M? Must be because of Kanji...
just joking.
Mar 6, 2017 7:32 AM
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Persona 4 rated M? Must be because of Kanji...
just joking.

Kanji's dungeon and Shadow probably didn't help the rating, yeah.

Mar 6, 2017 8:09 AM
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Well there is that Devil S.Link where you almost uh
Also there's an entire dungeon about a stripping celebrity with a monster that spreads her legs at you to attack you
oh and a dungeon where a princess literally says "I'm wearing lacy underwear for my prince charming!" <- I wonder what that one could mean


nah

it's none of those






it's Mara.
Mar 6, 2017 8:48 AM
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What's with all these comparisons to Berseria? Would you stop spamming topics about it?
Mar 6, 2017 8:50 AM
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Well there is that Devil S.Link where you almost uh
Also there's an entire dungeon about a stripping celebrity with a monster that spreads her legs at you to attack you
oh and a dungeon where a princess literally says "I'm wearing lacy underwear for my prince charming!" <- I wonder what that one could mean


nah

it's none of those






it's Mara.


I've never played a Persona game before. What's an S.Link?

Mar 6, 2017 9:05 AM
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Seiya said:
Syrup- said:
Well there is that Devil S.Link where you almost uh
Also there's an entire dungeon about a stripping celebrity with a monster that spreads her legs at you to attack you
oh and a dungeon where a princess literally says "I'm wearing lacy underwear for my prince charming!" <- I wonder what that one could mean


nah

it's none of those






it's Mara.


I've never played a Persona game before. What's an S.Link?
It's the Sim date aspect of Persona.
Mar 6, 2017 9:06 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
Seiya said:


I've never played a Persona game before. What's an S.Link?
It's the Sim date aspect of Persona.


Sounds kinda weird. I'm glad I've never played any Persona games.

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Seiya said:
Syrup- said:
Well there is that Devil S.Link where you almost uh
Also there's an entire dungeon about a stripping celebrity with a monster that spreads her legs at you to attack you
oh and a dungeon where a princess literally says "I'm wearing lacy underwear for my prince charming!" <- I wonder what that one could mean


nah

it's none of those






it's Mara.


I've never played a Persona game before. What's an S.Link?
S.Links are social links. They can be built and improved by spending time with your friends. There is one Social Link for every common tarot card face (Strength, Death, Priestess, Tower, etc.). The goal is to rank as many Social Links to MAX (Rank 10) so that you can build stronger Personas, which are what make up your fighting strength.

The game tries to simulate a real day by dividing your day into Morning, Lunch, Afternoon, After School, Evening, and Overnight. Because you are a student, you spend Morning, Lunch, and Afternoon in classes. In the afternoon, you generally have time to do anything you want, like increasing social links and buying items/equipment, but this is generally when you will be prompted to go take care of the RPG segment of the game, at least in Persona 4's case. Since Social Links are a main part of the game, your calendar management skills will determine how successful you are in the dungeons.


TL;DR:
- S.Links = Social Links,
- Social Links = Friends you spend time with
- Spend time with friends in order to be stronger in the RPG portion of the game.

Thrashinuva said:
It's the Sim date aspect of Persona.
That's quite the generalization. You spend plenty of time with friends that you will never date, like the bros on the soccer team, or the kid that you spend time tutoring for money
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Syrup- said:
Seiya said:


I've never played a Persona game before. What's an S.Link?
S.Links are social links. They can be built and improved by spending time with your friends. There is one Social Link for every common tarot card face (Strength, Death, Priestess, Tower, etc.). The goal is to rank as many Social Links to MAX (Rank 10) so that you can build stronger Personas, which are what make up your fighting strength.

The game tries to simulate a real day by dividing your day into Morning, Lunch, Afternoon, After School, Evening, and Overnight. Because you are a student, you spend Morning, Lunch, and Afternoon in classes. In the afternoon, you generally have time to do anything you want, like increasing social links and buying items/equipment, but this is generally when you will be prompted to go take care of the RPG segment of the game, at least in Persona 4's case. Since Social Links are a main part of the game, your calendar management skills will determine how successful you are in the dungeons.


TL;DR:
- S.Links = Social Links,
- Social Links = Friends you spend time with
- Spend time with friends in order to be stronger in the RPG portion of the game.


Sounds like a pretty shitty game series to me.

Mar 6, 2017 9:25 AM

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Seiya said:
Syrup- said:
S.Links are social links. They can be built and improved by spending time with your friends. There is one Social Link for every common tarot card face (Strength, Death, Priestess, Tower, etc.). The goal is to rank as many Social Links to MAX (Rank 10) so that you can build stronger Personas, which are what make up your fighting strength.

The game tries to simulate a real day by dividing your day into Morning, Lunch, Afternoon, After School, Evening, and Overnight. Because you are a student, you spend Morning, Lunch, and Afternoon in classes. In the afternoon, you generally have time to do anything you want, like increasing social links and buying items/equipment, but this is generally when you will be prompted to go take care of the RPG segment of the game, at least in Persona 4's case. Since Social Links are a main part of the game, your calendar management skills will determine how successful you are in the dungeons.


TL;DR:
- S.Links = Social Links,
- Social Links = Friends you spend time with
- Spend time with friends in order to be stronger in the RPG portion of the game.


Sounds like a pretty shitty game series to me.


You know?

You'd think so, but the sim aspects are kept to a minimum in order to make it more about the character development and less about waifu's.

The combat is also really solid and engaging.

Mar 6, 2017 9:26 AM

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Dragonage2ftw said:
Seiya said:


Sounds like a pretty shitty game series to me.


You know?

You'd think so, but the sim aspects are kept to a minimum in order to make it more about the character development and less about waifu's.

The combat is also really solid and engaging.


The main reason I've never played a Persona game, is because the art styles are too ugly for me to tolerate.

Mar 6, 2017 9:34 AM

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Seiya said:
Dragonage2ftw said:


You know?

You'd think so, but the sim aspects are kept to a minimum in order to make it more about the character development and less about waifu's.

The combat is also really solid and engaging.


The main reason I've never played a Persona game, is because the art styles are too ugly for me to tolerate.
I guess I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree. I've drawn a lot of inspiration off of Soejima's artstyle in the last few years. I think he's really on top of trends, so it's hard to say he's shit. I know you don't like modern stuff as much as other people though, so I do get where you're coming from. Persona 1 or Persona 2 might be more your speed, if that series has any hope for you.
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Syrup- said:
Seiya said:


The main reason I've never played a Persona game, is because the art styles are too ugly for me to tolerate.
I guess I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree. I've drawn a lot of inspiration off of Soejima's artstyle in the last few years. I think he's really on top of trends, so it's hard to say he's shit. I know you don't like modern stuff as much as other people though, so I do get where you're coming from. Persona 1 or Persona 2 might be more your speed, if that series has any hope for you.


The entire Megami Tensei series has always come across to me as "Weird." I won't even touch the Famicom and Super Famicom originals.

Mar 6, 2017 9:43 AM

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Syrup- said:
Well there is that Devil S.Link where you almost uh
Also there's an entire dungeon about a stripping celebrity with a monster that spreads her legs at you to attack you
oh and a dungeon where a princess literally says "I'm wearing lacy underwear for my prince charming!" <- I wonder what that one could mean


nah

it's none of those






it's Mara.
Not gonna lie, Shadow Rise caught me off guard. And it managed to do it again in the undub version (where the moans were more sexual and the squishing less subtle)

Had me laughing for a solid minute

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Seiya said:
Syrup- said:
I guess I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree. I've drawn a lot of inspiration off of Soejima's artstyle in the last few years. I think he's really on top of trends, so it's hard to say he's shit. I know you don't like modern stuff as much as other people though, so I do get where you're coming from. Persona 1 or Persona 2 might be more your speed, if that series has any hope for you.


The entire Megami Tensei series has always come across to me as "Weird." I won't even touch the Famicom and Super Famicom originals.
The number one classification of SMT is "weird". It's unfortunate if you can't handle weird games.

SMT is all about challenging people's ideas mostly concerning controversial subjects. Final Fantasy might bring in gods from old archaic mythologies, but SMT brings in more common ones as well, such as Satan and Jesus. But they're also not brought in ignorantly or carelessly.

Onf of the first games has you teaming up with Lucifer in order to defeat God.
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Thrashinuva said:
Seiya said:


The entire Megami Tensei series has always come across to me as "Weird." I won't even touch the Famicom and Super Famicom originals.
The number one classification of SMT is "weird". It's unfortunate if you can't handle weird games.

SMT is all about challenging people's ideas mostly concerning controversial subjects. Final Fantasy might bring in gods from old archaic mythologies, but SMT brings in more common ones as well, such as Satan and Jesus. But they're also not brought in ignorantly or carelessly.

Onf of the first games has you teaming up with Lucifer in order to defeat God.


Yeah, I'm not interested in playing any of the Megami Tensei games, ever. They're heavily overrated, like Zelda and the Mother series.

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Seiya said:
Thrashinuva said:
The number one classification of SMT is "weird". It's unfortunate if you can't handle weird games.

SMT is all about challenging people's ideas mostly concerning controversial subjects. Final Fantasy might bring in gods from old archaic mythologies, but SMT brings in more common ones as well, such as Satan and Jesus. But they're also not brought in ignorantly or carelessly.

Onf of the first games has you teaming up with Lucifer in order to defeat God.


Yeah, I'm not interested in playing any of the Megami Tensei games, ever. They're heavily overrated, like Zelda and the Mother series.
Your favorite things are far more overrated.
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Thrashinuva said:
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Yeah, I'm not interested in playing any of the Megami Tensei games, ever. They're heavily overrated, like Zelda and the Mother series.
Your favorite things are far more overrated.


Exactly what "Favorite Things" of mine in particular do you think are overrated?

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Don't feed the troll guys. Why people enter specifically on themes of things that they hate just to say out loud that they hate it??? I don't understand that.

About the main topic, as colorful as it is P4 talks about heavy themes a lot of innuendo (Kaiji, Naoto), religious themes (Japanese Gods) and murder (The main plot).

Berseria also talks about heavy themes like revenge and violence but BandaiNamco tone down this aspect (tha NA version had some censorship) while Atlus has adopted a beatiful philosophy in localization (0% censorship)
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Seiya said:
Thrashinuva said:
Your favorite things are far more overrated.


Exactly what "Favorite Things" of mine in particular do you think are overrated?
The things that I've never watched or played or have any experience with.
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Thrashinuva said:
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Exactly what "Favorite Things" of mine in particular do you think are overrated?
The things that I've never watched or played or have any experience with.


You don't have to play a game to know you'll hate it. Same thing with watching Anime.

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Seiya said:
Thrashinuva said:
The things that I've never watched or played or have any experience with.


You don't have to play a game to know you'll hate it. Same thing with watching Anime.
And just because you hate it doesn't mean it's overrated.
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Thrashinuva said:
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You don't have to play a game to know you'll hate it. Same thing with watching Anime.
And just because you hate it doesn't mean it's overrated.


Well, I know that Earthbound is overrated, because I actually played that game. Same with Ocarina of Time. It's not a bad game, and is at least a solid 7.5/10 if not an 8/10, but anyone who calls OoT the best game of all time is simply retarded.

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Seiya doesn't have to like SMT lol
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And just because you hate it doesn't mean it's overrated.


Well, I know that Earthbound is overrated, because I actually played that game. Same with Ocarina of Time. It's not a bad game, and is at least a solid 7.5/10 if not an 8/10, but anyone who calls OoT the best game of all time is simply retarded.
Yeah, well that's just like, your opinion, man.
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The concepts of "overrated" or "underrated" are retarded and have no basis relevant to the quality of art. @Seiya




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Mar 7, 2017 6:25 AM

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Back on topic, Berseria isn't even that violent, mild at best.
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Back on topic, Berseria isn't even that violent, mild at best.
Yep, Berseria isn't a big deal, like most other Tales games, to be fair.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
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Persona 4, makes sense, the psyche stuff, with the hidden sides, that are either Guilt ridden or plain erotic.

Not to mention the Nurse and her reward.
Some of the social links pretty much had a Older Women or Milf vibe to them.

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