| I've never really understood why there are 2 different genre labels for girl and boy love. I've seen stuff labels yuri and we only see a kiss. I've seen stuff labeled shoujo ai and I see full on sex. I just don't get it. |
| yuri is girl on girl yaoi is boy on boy shoujo Ai is yuri but without the sex same with Shounen Ai |
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Jak said: why dont you say the anime titles?I've never really understood why there are 2 different genre labels for girl and boy love. I've seen stuff labels yuri and we only see a kiss. I've seen stuff labeled shoujo ai and I see full on sex. I just don't get it. hazerddex said: yeh this is how anime database sites do ityuri is girl on girl yaoi is boy on boy shoujo Ai is yuri but without the sex same with Shounen Ai but many people use them interchangably especially those who dont frequent them and i think all 4 terms have somewhat different meanings in japan |
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Jak said: I've never really understood why there are 2 different genre labels for girl and boy love. I've seen stuff labels yuri and we only see a kiss. I've seen stuff labeled shoujo ai and I see full on sex. I just don't get it. That's just another case of inconsistently used terminology. People who insist on making the difference, say that yuri/yaoi is porn, and shoujo ai/shounen ai is romance. Many people just use yuri/yaoi all the time. |
| I swear this thread pops up every month. OT: Yaoi/yuri is more legitimate than shounen/shoujo ai. That's really the only difference. Shounen/shoujo ai is usually implied or very, very light. |
| There is no difference, they're all genres which the characters have mental illnesses. |
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| Shounen ai - with no explicit sex scenes, yaoi - with explicit sex scenes, this is how it should work and some stuff on MAL is indeed tagged according to this, for example: in Love Stage anime there is no sex, while in the source manga there is a lot of sex. This is really the only difference between them since the storyline is almost exactly the same in both, and they are tagged differently - the first one is shounen ai while the second one is yaoi. But not everything on MAL is tagged accurately, some tags are inconsistent and can be misleading. |
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fuyuki said: Yes, for anime the "Yaoi/Yuri implies Hentai" rule is used (see: https://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre ). Hence, all anime tagged like that should also be tagged Hentai, and there are no TV Hentai series. Shounen ai - with no explicit sex scenes, yaoi - with explicit sex scenes, this is how it should work and some stuff on MAL is indeed tagged according to this, for example: in Love Stage anime there is no sex, while in the source manga there is a lot of sex. This is really the only difference between them since the storyline is almost exactly the same in both, and they are tagged differently - the first one is shounen ai while the second one is yaoi. But not everything on MAL is tagged accurately, some tags are inconsistent and can be misleading. I am not sure but i think the Manga Database have no such rule. |
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romagia said: fuyuki said: Yes, for anime the "Yaoi/Yuri implies Hentai" rule is used (see: https://myanimelist.net/info.php?go=genre ). Hence, all anime tagged like that should also be tagged Hentai, and there are no TV Hentai series. Shounen ai - with no explicit sex scenes, yaoi - with explicit sex scenes, this is how it should work and some stuff on MAL is indeed tagged according to this, for example: in Love Stage anime there is no sex, while in the source manga there is a lot of sex. This is really the only difference between them since the storyline is almost exactly the same in both, and they are tagged differently - the first one is shounen ai while the second one is yaoi. But not everything on MAL is tagged accurately, some tags are inconsistent and can be misleading. I am not sure but i think the Manga Database have no such rule. Yeah I kinda forgot that there are no hentai tv series so it probably wasn't the best example, lol. Better example would be how gay manga is published in my country (and we really have shitload of them). If it has sexual content, it's always labeled as "yaoi" on the publisher's site, it has an age limit and they probably won't sell it to you in a store if you're under 18 (unless you buy it online). When there is no explicit sexual content it's just labeled as "shounen ai" and it has no age limit. From what I've seen those labels coincides with MAL's tags and that's why I think the "sex=yaoi/yuri, no sex=shounen ai/shoujo ai" rule is valid in most cases, at least when it comes to manga. It's probably less accurate when it comes to anime. |
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rsc-pl said: wisemagic7 said: Shounen/Shoujo Ai is more about the emotional development between the characters and most of the time it doesnt go further than a kiss. Yaoi/Yuri is the opposite where there is little to no character development and is purely about pleasing the audience with sex. But that's the general definitions, of course there might be some manga Honto Yajuu that has both character development and tons of sex so it can be categorized as both. It's simply not true. First of all, Shoujo ai is a western term. There is no such thing in Japan. But if you are using both terms then there is actually no yuri anime at all (but it is possible that we will be able to see proper yuri anime in this year - Citrus and Netsuzou Trap are getting anime adaptations). Of course a lot of yuri manga exist. But your definition is wrong. Yuri is more explicit, yeah, but it doesn't mean that there is no character development. It's quite opposite. A lot of pure yuri manga has actually a huge character development. Minority of it has only sex-driven plot. In this case it's hard to call them yuri, it's just hentai. but is there any "good" yuri? I mean, if you delete porn scenes what will you get - something good? What part of a title is porn and what part of the title is "not porn"? |
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