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Nov 20, 2016 8:22 PM
#1
Whether it's on MAL. Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter or Reddit, do you think people are over analysing Yuri on Ice? The series appear to be simple but these analysis make it seem like I've failed at grasping the greatness that is Yuri on Ice. Are people stretching these analysis to suit their narratives? |
Nov 20, 2016 8:27 PM
#2
Yaoi on Ice This is not even a sport anime , it was made for fujoshis |
Nov 20, 2016 8:28 PM
#3
The fujoshis are just happy they got a show mate, nothing to analyze here lol |
Nov 20, 2016 8:30 PM
#4
Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! |
Nov 20, 2016 8:35 PM
#6
Uh...it's a fujoshi-pandering anime...nothing more, nothing less. That's it. |
Nov 20, 2016 8:40 PM
#7
I personally enjoy for the ice skating performances that are brilliantly choreographed and animated. I am also grateful the full on yaoi naked in the onsen scenes are not common and yaoi moments are limited to about 2-3 per episode. YAOI ON FIRE!!! |
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Nov 20, 2016 8:40 PM
#8
_Ako_ said: Actually it does make sense,the song he skates to is called Yuri on Ice get rekt m8.Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! |
Nov 20, 2016 8:43 PM
#9
LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: Actually it does make sense,the song he skates to is called Yuri on Ice get rekt m8.Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! Lol dude... Like really?! The fuck is Yuri... They're not female, the casts are male. xD Like when I read the title, "female on Ice" or "Female cutely ice skating", and the the cover picture kills that picture in my head... |
Nov 20, 2016 8:57 PM
#10
_Ako_ said: LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! Lol dude... Like really?! The fuck is Yuri... They're not female, the casts are male. xD Like when I read the title, "female on Ice" or "Female cutely ice skating", and the the cover picture kills that picture in my head... My deep condolence for those who got tricked by it. |
Nov 20, 2016 8:58 PM
#11
_Ako_ said: The main character is called Yuri and he skates to a piece called Yuri on Ice,don't worry we all got baited by the title.LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! Lol dude... Like really?! The fuck is Yuri... They're not female, the casts are male. xD Like when I read the title, "female on Ice" or "Female cutely ice skating", and the the cover picture kills that picture in my head... |
Nov 20, 2016 9:01 PM
#12
LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: The main character is called Yuri and he skates to a piece called Yuri on Ice,don't worry we all got baited by the title.LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: Actually it does make sense,the song he skates to is called Yuri on Ice get rekt m8.Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! Lol dude... Like really?! The fuck is Yuri... They're not female, the casts are male. xD Like when I read the title, "female on Ice" or "Female cutely ice skating", and the the cover picture kills that picture in my head... EHHH?! No, I didn't got baited because I didn't watch it... But yeah, the name is just... WTF... LoNNoL said: _Ako_ said: LeWeebJames said: _Ako_ said: Actually it does make sense,the song he skates to is called Yuri on Ice get rekt m8.Fujoshi's mind are endless... You don't need to question it, for it to be your last when your soul departs on Earth. EDIT: I guess they are overanalyzing it because it should be "Yaoi on Ice" So why is it "Yuri on Ice", like really anime why it doesn't make sense?! Lol dude... Like really?! The fuck is Yuri... They're not female, the casts are male. xD Like when I read the title, "female on Ice" or "Female cutely ice skating", and the the cover picture kills that picture in my head... My deep condolence for those who got tricked by it. I feel like the name has nothing to do with it but the content itself... xD Ohh well, those who're still watching it must be, the you-know-what... |
Nov 20, 2016 9:08 PM
#13
@_Ako_ @LeWeebJames Ok i'm going to defend this abit Yuri on Ice It's actually not a bait name Just a metaphor symbolism that we missed "Yuri" on "Ice" Yuri here isn't refer to the character in the show but the viewer, it's a fujoshi bait show. it bait female viewer. Ice is a word play refer to "I", "me" address themselves Yuri on Ice a "female" viewers get aroused by the anime and start helping themselves. The thing is a message to viewer to watch it with partners. When they get aroused they said " please do this "yuri" thingy on "me" Ok. make sense now i guess. |
Nov 20, 2016 9:14 PM
#14
LoNNoL said: Ah, it all makes sense now! @_Ako_ @LeWeebJames Ok i'm going to defend this abit Yuri on Ice It's actually not a bait name Just a metaphor symbolism that we missed "Yuri" on "Ice" Yuri here isn't refer to the character in the show but the viewer, it's a fujoshi bait show. it bait female viewer. Ice is a word play refer to "I", "me" address themselves Yuri on Ice a "female" viewers get aroused by the anime and start helping themselves. The thing is a message to viewer to watch it with partners. When they get aroused they said " please do this "yuri" thingy on "me" Ok. make sense now i guess. Thanks for the 10/10 research mate...... |
Nov 20, 2016 9:38 PM
#15
I can't speak for Yuri on Ice though I can speak for anime overall. Anime is what you get out of it. There can be deep themes that can be left to interpretation that different people will see differently, however for the most part the overall theme should be about the same. I think it is hard to over analyze an anime, as long as what the person is saying is somewhat reasonable and not to far fetched I think it is fine. |
Nov 20, 2016 10:34 PM
#16
Modern day anime= modern art. Also, does anything else think that character count requirement of MAL posts is stupid ass idea? I mean why can't I just post a sweet and short comment without having to stretch my point like its a fucking rubber band? Completely drifting away from the actual topic we are supposed to discuss? It is completely unnecessary and a waste of time to be honest. The earlier they get rid of this bullshit the better. Now, look what you made me do MAL! |
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Nov 21, 2016 1:41 AM
#17
Disagree because there is some genuine craftsmanship that goes into modern anime, unlike a lot of the less technically proficient modern art. |
Nov 21, 2016 2:28 AM
#18
WisestOne said: I can't speak for Yuri on Ice though I can speak for anime overall. Anime is what you get out of it. There can be deep themes that can be left to interpretation that different people will see differently, however for the most part the overall theme should be about the same. I think it is hard to over analyze an anime, as long as what the person is saying is somewhat reasonable and not to far fetched I think it is fine. You're right. but not every anime has layers that need interpreting. Some shows are suppose to only be as they appear. Over analysing was probably not the best word to use. I should have said over imagined (that makes no sense). Nonetheless, everyone's imagination is running wild. People are inserting their imagination using what Yuri on Ice has given through dialogues, emotions, actions, etc. |
Nov 21, 2016 2:30 AM
#19
yaoi hole on ice :D hehehe many girls enjoyed the series. well, good story. but why add BL on it? |
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Nov 21, 2016 2:33 AM
#20
bukalaka said: Also, does anything else think that character count requirement of MAL posts is stupid ass idea? I mean why can't I just post a sweet and short comment without having to stretch my point like its a fucking rubber band? Completely drifting away from the actual topic we are supposed to discuss? It is completely unnecessary and a waste of time to be honest. The earlier they get rid of this bullshit the better. Now, look what you made me do MAL! True that especially considering how words and phrases are shortens into a few letters when social networking. |
Nov 21, 2016 4:07 AM
#21
Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. |
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Nov 21, 2016 4:15 AM
#22
Nah if you understand figure skating you'll understand it. I mean yeah we got a romance but figure skating is a different animal. |
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Nov 21, 2016 5:09 AM
#23
yea it's just gay pandering anime nothing special, it fits western SJW culture where minority is glorified |
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Nov 21, 2016 7:30 AM
#24
LoNNoL said: @_Ako_ @LeWeebJames Ok i'm going to defend this abit Yuri on Ice It's actually not a bait name Just a metaphor symbolism that we missed "Yuri" on "Ice" Yuri here isn't refer to the character in the show but the viewer, it's a fujoshi bait show. it bait female viewer. Ice is a word play refer to "I", "me" address themselves Yuri on Ice a "female" viewers get aroused by the anime and start helping themselves. The thing is a message to viewer to watch it with partners. When they get aroused they said " please do this "yuri" thingy on "me" Ok. make sense now i guess. A moment of silence to our comrade who finally said something that make sense. You earn my respect dude... GG |
Nov 21, 2016 12:53 PM
#25
black1blade said: True, some are genuine, most are pretentious crap. Just like modern art.Disagree because there is some genuine craftsmanship that goes into modern anime, unlike a lot of the less technically proficient modern art. |
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Nov 21, 2016 1:08 PM
#26
OP is just salty that they can't do any analytical thinking. I enjoying reading other fans analysis on Yuri on ice because it brings more meaning into each character and their relationships etc. It makes me like the anime even more! |
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Nov 21, 2016 1:09 PM
#27
Overanalysing is always a subjective term. What degree of analysis and critical evaluation is 'too much' will largely depend on someone's opinion on that piece of media, and their general interest in it as well as their general interest in the process of critical analysis. So basically if you don't care enough about the show to want to analyse it, don't read it when other people do. |
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Nov 25, 2016 1:27 PM
#28
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Nov 25, 2016 2:57 PM
#29
Some analyze is going to be correct or just right. There is some foreshadowing in the show, relationship growth and stuff like that- that makes sense to analyze. Of course some analyze is then overboard, but people like to think about stuff and analyze anyways. Not only with YOI, but all animes- there is some big and popular theories going around like about Code Geass ending etc. Also non-animes like tv-shows, movies, songs, books, mv's etc. get both analyzed and overanalyzed. But for me even if some stuff is bit overanalyzed- it brings me enjoyment. As long as it makes sense it's all fair analyze to me. |
Nov 25, 2016 3:59 PM
#30
Deffenerst said: , it was made for fujoshis So it's a sport anime, alright. _Ako_ said: EHHH?! No, I didn't got baited because I didn't watch it... But yeah, the name is just... WTF... Are you aware Yuri is a legit Russian and Japanese name and it's not even written using the kanji for Yuri anyway. |
Nov 25, 2016 4:05 PM
#31
Jin_uzuki said: _Ako_ said: EHHH?! No, I didn't got baited because I didn't watch it... But yeah, the name is just... WTF... Are you aware Yuri is a legit Russian and Japanese name and it's not even written using the kanji for Yuri anyway. Do you think I give a shit about it? Will that stuff help me as I write my test? |
Nov 25, 2016 4:30 PM
#32
_Ako_ said: Jin_uzuki said: _Ako_ said: EHHH?! No, I didn't got baited because I didn't watch it... But yeah, the name is just... WTF... Are you aware Yuri is a legit Russian and Japanese name and it's not even written using the kanji for Yuri anyway. Do you think I give a shit about it? Will that stuff help me as I write my test? You.... what are you even going on about? |
Nov 25, 2016 4:35 PM
#33
Jin_uzuki said: _Ako_ said: Jin_uzuki said: _Ako_ said: EHHH?! No, I didn't got baited because I didn't watch it... But yeah, the name is just... WTF... Are you aware Yuri is a legit Russian and Japanese name and it's not even written using the kanji for Yuri anyway. Do you think I give a shit about it? Will that stuff help me as I write my test? You.... what are you even going on about? WHAT?! I'm going on about some shit I don't know... xD |
Nov 25, 2016 5:30 PM
#34
I don't think so. I think that all the critics against this anime it's because some people have a lot of prejudices towards gay relationships in anime. Yes, there are a lot of shitty yaoi and shounen-ai series, but that doesn't mean that other series that have gay relationships are bad as well. No. 6 is an example of that. And yeah, YoI has a lot of fanservice, but that doesn't mean that's all about it. An anime doesn't necessarily have to be like Monster or GitS to be analysed (?) |
Nov 25, 2016 7:41 PM
#35
tsuyokunaru said: Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. Exactly lol. They are always like that. I'm not even suprised. |
Nov 25, 2016 8:06 PM
#36
Bulmakur said: Whether it's on MAL. Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter or Reddit, do you think people are over analysing Yuri on Ice? The series appear to be simple but these analysis make it seem like I've failed at grasping the greatness that is Yuri on Ice. Are people stretching these analysis to suit their narratives? First of all, sorry for my lack in English and grammar mistakes. But well, somehow i can relate with this one. There are several important theories and analysis about figure skating, translation, etc. Such as why Yuuri won the battle in episode 3 or understanding Yuuri and Victor relationship from romantic lens. I would love to see Yuuri and Viktor in romantic relationship but yeah, like you said sometimes people stretching their analysis to the point of suit their narratives. So,maybe you should stay away from that and enjoy the anime without thinking too much? :) |
Nov 25, 2016 10:59 PM
#37
tsuyokunaru said: Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x |
Nov 26, 2016 6:30 AM
#38
Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. |
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Nov 26, 2016 7:32 AM
#39
Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x Crazy shipping happens in every anime that has the potential. Did people forget Naruto and Bleach endings already? Heck, even stuff like SnK is polluted by so many crazy shippers that it feels like they are reading a romantic romcom. The only different is that this kind of shipping may or not may align with your views and therefor stands out. The real question is why people watch anime aimed at fujoshi and then complain about the fujoshi discussions. Do they also go into Eupho threads complaining about the cute girls discussions and Izzeta threads to complain about the yuri shipping? |
Nov 26, 2016 10:40 AM
#40
Bulmakur said: Whether it's on MAL. Tumblr, Facebook, Twitter or Reddit, do you think people are over analysing Yuri on Ice? The series appear to be simple but these analysis make it seem like I've failed at grasping the greatness that is Yuri on Ice. Are people stretching these analysis to suit their narratives? It's mostly because english offical sub are really bad! And there are a lot of things lost in translation! Of course you can watch it like the english sub (probably dub also) want you to watch it, but if you're not fluent japanese (and not know well Japanese culture) you will miss a lot in the series! That's why you feel like there are too much analysis! But it's useful if you're curious about the series (like in ep6 with the hands before Yuuri short programm). You should know how much is lost with Sub/Dub. If you just want to watch a sport series and forget it as soon as it's finish, just don't read those analysis... |
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Nov 26, 2016 1:13 PM
#41
GangsterCat said: yea it's just gay pandering anime nothing special, it fits western SJW culture where minority is glorified How do you "glorify" minorities? |
Nov 26, 2016 2:43 PM
#42
tsuyokunaru said: Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. Actually the constant 'I love Emilia-but Rem is the best waifu' threads made me pulling of my hair either :D But not the shipping the problem. When fujoshis dragged in shows like Haikyuu, which obviously doesn't containing any kind of element, is really off. So if they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't be offended for 'ruining anything', don't you think so? Let's not turn series to an entirely different genre. Creating another story from the actual one, makes lose the point of discussion. Fanfiction has his own place I think. Refusing reality and forcing own fetish... well annoying. And why every men who have close relationship with another have to be gay? Isn't this errr... bad? Plus read the comment section here; episode 7, almost totally lacked any meaningful conversation, just 'omg, kiss' sentences. Is it supposed to be good? |
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Nov 26, 2016 2:55 PM
#43
Jin_uzuki said: Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x Crazy shipping happens in every anime that has the potential. Did people forget Naruto and Bleach endings already? Heck, even stuff like SnK is polluted by so many crazy shippers that it feels like they are reading a romantic romcom. The only different is that this kind of shipping may or not may align with your views and therefor stands out. The real question is why people watch anime aimed at fujoshi and then complain about the fujoshi discussions. Do they also go into Eupho threads complaining about the cute girls discussions and Izzeta threads to complain about the yuri shipping? Nope, it's not the difference. I'm generally not a shipping-type. It's hard to bother somebody who is neutral, don't you think? Well, when I started Yuri on Ice, for me it wasn't obvious. Maybe Viktor declaration in Adam's costume should awake my suspicion but I thought it'll be comedy device (thanks, my naivety!) Just in brackets: there is a lot debates whether it is a sport anime or yaoi, but most of yaoi-lovers defending by the argument 'why something has to tag yaoi just because it contains BL? why they get branding irones? So what? We are homophobic in every way? If we consider it yaoi and if we don't either? |
Nov 26, 2016 3:08 PM
#44
Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. Actually the constant 'I love Emilia-but Rem is the best waifu' threads made me pulling of my hair either :D But not the shipping the problem. When fujoshis dragged in shows like Haikyuu, which obviously doesn't containing any kind of element, is really off. So if they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't be offended for 'ruining anything', don't you think so? Let's not turn series to an entirely different genre. Creating another story from the actual one, makes lose the point of discussion. Fanfiction has his own place I think. Refusing reality and forcing own fetish... well annoying. And why every men who has close relationship with another has to be gay? Isn't this errr... bad? Plus read the comment section here; episode 7, almost totally lacked any meaningful conversation, just 'omg, kiss' sentences. Is it supposed to be good? While shipping two guys is most common- people also ship two girls- and girls and boys together all the time. With every show, outside of anime and Japan as well. Sometimes it's purely headcanons and well fanfiction. Sometimes there is subtext or sth in canon that would make it plausible or at least more so. In some rare cases the ship is actually canon (like Viktuuri). People in general love shipping and romantic content. No escaping that. |
Nov 26, 2016 3:16 PM
#45
KomaDoll said: Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. Actually the constant 'I love Emilia-but Rem is the best waifu' threads made me pulling of my hair either :D But not the shipping the problem. When fujoshis dragged in shows like Haikyuu, which obviously doesn't containing any kind of element, is really off. So if they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't be offended for 'ruining anything', don't you think so? Let's not turn series to an entirely different genre. Creating another story from the actual one, makes lose the point of discussion. Fanfiction has his own place I think. Refusing reality and forcing own fetish... well annoying. And why every men who has close relationship with another has to be gay? Isn't this errr... bad? Plus read the comment section here; episode 7, almost totally lacked any meaningful conversation, just 'omg, kiss' sentences. Is it supposed to be good? While shipping two guys is most common- people also ship two girls- and girls and boys together all the time. With every show, outside of anime and Japan as well. Sometimes it's purely headcanons and well fanfiction. Sometimes there is subtext or sth in canon that would make it plausible or at least more so. In some rare cases the ship is actually canon (like Viktuuri). People in general love shipping and romantic content. No escaping that. I won't argue about canon or not 'cause it reached the boring level. As I said not shipping the problem. But are we going into obviously yaoi shows and making straight men from gays? I don't think so. Plus handling baits/hints as facts is also err... problematic. |
Nov 26, 2016 3:21 PM
#46
Frigyesur said: KomaDoll said: Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. Actually the constant 'I love Emilia-but Rem is the best waifu' threads made me pulling of my hair either :D But not the shipping the problem. When fujoshis dragged in shows like Haikyuu, which obviously doesn't containing any kind of element, is really off. So if they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't be offended for 'ruining anything', don't you think so? Let's not turn series to an entirely different genre. Creating another story from the actual one, makes lose the point of discussion. Fanfiction has his own place I think. Refusing reality and forcing own fetish... well annoying. And why every men who has close relationship with another has to be gay? Isn't this errr... bad? Plus read the comment section here; episode 7, almost totally lacked any meaningful conversation, just 'omg, kiss' sentences. Is it supposed to be good? While shipping two guys is most common- people also ship two girls- and girls and boys together all the time. With every show, outside of anime and Japan as well. Sometimes it's purely headcanons and well fanfiction. Sometimes there is subtext or sth in canon that would make it plausible or at least more so. In some rare cases the ship is actually canon (like Viktuuri). People in general love shipping and romantic content. No escaping that. I won't argue about canon or not 'cause it reached the boring level. As I said not shipping the problem. But are we going into obviously yaoi shows and making straight men from gays? I don't think so. Plus handling baits/hints as facts is also err... problematic. Sometimes subtexts is all you have, analyzing it especially if it's homoerotic/romantic as if characters are into men isn't bad thing in my opinion. Not talking about YOI though, you don't need subtext with that one. Also you seem to have problem with slash from that comment.. |
Nov 26, 2016 3:36 PM
#47
Funny enough, for sports, the situations aren't even as gay is it is in real-life. |
Nov 26, 2016 3:39 PM
#48
KomaDoll said: Frigyesur said: KomaDoll said: Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Frigyesur said: The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x I know ship wars are crazy and I know some fangirls and faboys go overboard with shipping characters in anime that are not romance by far, but they're usually not in these forums to defends themselves from all the blame that is place of them for 'running everything'. What I'm really complaining about is that many fans here protect their waifus and have 'best girl' ship wars too but there's no complaints about that! They celebrate it because it's their own turf. That's ridiculous and unfair. Actually the constant 'I love Emilia-but Rem is the best waifu' threads made me pulling of my hair either :D But not the shipping the problem. When fujoshis dragged in shows like Haikyuu, which obviously doesn't containing any kind of element, is really off. So if they wouldn't do it, they wouldn't be offended for 'ruining anything', don't you think so? Let's not turn series to an entirely different genre. Creating another story from the actual one, makes lose the point of discussion. Fanfiction has his own place I think. Refusing reality and forcing own fetish... well annoying. And why every men who has close relationship with another has to be gay? Isn't this errr... bad? Plus read the comment section here; episode 7, almost totally lacked any meaningful conversation, just 'omg, kiss' sentences. Is it supposed to be good? While shipping two guys is most common- people also ship two girls- and girls and boys together all the time. With every show, outside of anime and Japan as well. Sometimes it's purely headcanons and well fanfiction. Sometimes there is subtext or sth in canon that would make it plausible or at least more so. In some rare cases the ship is actually canon (like Viktuuri). People in general love shipping and romantic content. No escaping that. I won't argue about canon or not 'cause it reached the boring level. As I said not shipping the problem. But are we going into obviously yaoi shows and making straight men from gays? I don't think so. Plus handling baits/hints as facts is also err... problematic. Sometimes subtexts is all you have, analyzing it especially if it's homoerotic/romantic as if characters are into men isn't bad thing in my opinion. Not talking about YOI though, you don't need subtext with that one. Also you seem to have problem with slash from that comment.. But you know: fujpshis see yaoi everywhere :D https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpd1BC-kxbSlV1DEILZViLrtHaTaw0iWEbl6Y-DnfkWYHBuVKRYg And refusing the contras and calling them homophobe. I don't understand what do you men by the last sentence? |
Nov 26, 2016 4:44 PM
#49
Frigyesur said: Jin_uzuki said: Frigyesur said: tsuyokunaru said: Although I think that there has been some overanalysis of the show, I'm sick and tired of this stupid circlejerking I see from some users all the time of "fujoshi are evil" and "fujobait is killing anime" or that a show cannot be deep because it's "pandering to fujoshi" but you male viewers can have threads on threads on how ecchi is where it's at or whatever slightly original shounen is so different and genius. I perceive a lot of one-sided bias here. The problem probably mainly came from this: after seeing soooooo muchhhh magical BL transformations by them, even completely in innocent shows, the annoyance culminated (perhaps just for me). People just simply want to talk about a series and not wild imaginations which are completely out of place. At first time, it's okay, at second time, it's okay but when you have to run through 30 comments to find a normal, you are starting to be fed up with it. Plus they are reacting extremely aggressive when someone says against their 'precious ship'. At least here. Ships wars are crazy, but they really tend to get overboard :x Crazy shipping happens in every anime that has the potential. Did people forget Naruto and Bleach endings already? Heck, even stuff like SnK is polluted by so many crazy shippers that it feels like they are reading a romantic romcom. The only different is that this kind of shipping may or not may align with your views and therefor stands out. The real question is why people watch anime aimed at fujoshi and then complain about the fujoshi discussions. Do they also go into Eupho threads complaining about the cute girls discussions and Izzeta threads to complain about the yuri shipping? Nope, it's not the difference. I'm generally not a shipping-type. It's hard to bother somebody who is neutral, don't you think? Well, when I started Yuri on Ice, for me it wasn't obvious. Maybe Viktor declaration in Adam's costume should awake my suspicion but I thought it'll be comedy device (thanks, my naivety!) Just in brackets: there is a lot debates whether it is a sport anime or yaoi, but most of yaoi-lovers defending by the argument 'why something has to tag yaoi just because it contains BL? why they get branding irones? So what? We are homophobic in every way? If we consider it yaoi and if we don't either? Yaoi would not even be the right tag as it's only used for works with explicit sex scenes, jeez. No wonder they tell you it's wrong! |
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