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Jan 31, 2016 5:39 PM
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This is one twist that fell rather flat. Try though they did to be deep, it really did not work.
Feb 10, 2016 12:38 AM

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Despite the mindf, still don't believe Martin will kill Eva.

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Mar 15, 2016 10:28 PM

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Another character touched by Franz and possibly 511 Kinderheim introduced imo. What a snake's tongue he has.
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Apr 4, 2016 4:13 PM
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The fact that Tenma saw a clock and then a soccer ball on sale after the people he met talked about those items;

The fact that Johan knows where Tenma will be and how the messages he leaves fit the circumstances;

The fact that Johan's creepy friend somehow "gleaned" the specifics of Martin's tragic life, etc. etc.

Whatever connects all of this together must be profound.
Jun 7, 2016 1:51 PM

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Martin's life is fucked up, his mother freezing to death because he left her sleep on the road and her girlfriend killing herself after being caught cheating on him.
That guy was annoying, that Johan wannabe.
Jul 17, 2016 2:05 PM

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With little screen time they can make the viewer care for Martin, great work.
I hate Eva.
Great Episode.
Jul 20, 2016 11:43 AM
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I didn't like the nudity scene in this episode.If they wanted to add scenes like that, they should have done it long time ago, now it just feels out of place and ruins the mood of the show.

Anyway, the new guy is a Johan amateur, Johan is so effective because of his ability to maintain complete calm while talking to people, this guy enjoys himself too much (smilling and being proud of himself) and this make him less effective.
Oct 24, 2016 9:58 AM

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aaaaand of course they gonna give us the dumb cliche where "the guy doesn't kill the girl, instead he protect her and they try to escape together and he end up dead because of her" instead of just shooting the damn bitch.


anyway, i like the new crazy guy, he's like a Johan on cocaine.



HiImAnAlien said:
I didn't like the nudity scene in this episode.If they wanted to add scenes like that, they should have done it long time ago, now it just feels out of place and ruins the mood of the show.

Did you even watch the show? There was a fuckin sex/rape scene in front of a kid in here ffs, also they already showed us nudity before this, you must've been watching a censored version or some shit.
Mr_ShnbOct 24, 2016 10:27 AM
Oct 28, 2016 4:39 AM
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Mr_Shnb said:
aaaaand of course they gonna give us the dumb cliche where "the guy doesn't kill the girl, instead he protect her and they try to escape together and he end up dead because of her" instead of just shooting the damn bitch.


anyway, i like the new crazy guy, he's like a Johan on cocaine.



HiImAnAlien said:
I didn't like the nudity scene in this episode.If they wanted to add scenes like that, they should have done it long time ago, now it just feels out of place and ruins the mood of the show.

Did you even watch the show? There was a fuckin sex/rape scene in front of a kid in here ffs, also they already showed us nudity before this, you must've been watching a censored version or some shit.
Mr_Shnb said:
aaaaand of course they gonna give us the dumb cliche where "the guy doesn't kill the girl, instead he protect her and they try to escape together and he end up dead because of her" instead of just shooting the damn bitch.


anyway, i like the new crazy guy, he's like a Johan on cocaine.



HiImAnAlien said:
I didn't like the nudity scene in this episode.If they wanted to add scenes like that, they should have done it long time ago, now it just feels out of place and ruins the mood of the show.

Did you even watch the show? There was a fuckin sex/rape scene in front of a kid in here ffs, also they already showed us nudity before this, you must've been watching a censored version or some shit.


Huh? I sure don't remember nudity been portrayed like this till this episode. What similar episode are you thinking about? Also this show portrays disturbing things, like that sex scene in front of a kid, but not in a way that seems like fan-service or shocking for its own sake.
It's a dark show, but also with this classy feel to it which makes it different from most anime.
Jun 15, 2017 12:33 AM

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Yeezus Martin past was tragic as hell... no wonder he didn’t kill Eva he is trying to atone for his past decisions... well that is what I think. The question is will he survive this whole ordeal and maybe have a positive outcome?

On a side note:
I know he didn’t have time but the Doc should have learned some CQB

FrozenSoda said:
The new guy really dissected Martin. He was pretty much naked right there...at that point Martin was too busy fighting himself to beat the shit out of the new guy.
+1

TripleSRank said:
I can't say I want Eva to die. She's irritating and a mess, but under all of that is a heavily damaged person. Martin may very well be the kind of person she needs right now- that is, if she doesn't end up pushing him away too, like she has with everyone else. Even so, I hold her responsible for bringing Johan and that man together. She knew better than that.
+1
Jun 18, 2017 9:29 PM

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Martin is a really patience man
That was a creepy episode
That boy is probably Johan's new disciple xD
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May 22, 2018 11:07 AM

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Fuck Martin, really liked how that odd dude mindfucked him.
Aug 29, 2018 11:24 AM
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So excited to see what will happen the last 14 episodes!

Great episode!
Jan 2, 2019 1:56 PM

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Martin is yet another great side character for this awesome show. I find him and his story really compelling.

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Feb 19, 2019 7:54 PM
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That guy is pretty scary too, though he holds nothin against Johan. Sad good episode.
Mar 7, 2019 6:33 PM
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I don't know I still won't forgive Eva since it was her who made Tenma a fugitive accusing him of the initial murders, I won't forgive her.

She also says that Tenma ruined her life even when she was the worst bitch that has ever existed with Tenma, it's just... infuriating.

Being so dependant of somebody to be someone bothers me a lot, so it's not like she has my respect in any way, she suffers because she needs a husband with a big title to be somebody and that's ridiculous, she is an idiot and I don't like her, even in the state that she is, I mean, I have felt bad too, but her situation doesn't cause anything to me.

I like the fact that she has learned a bit of her mistakes but it's not like she is going to get my sympathy any time soon, it was her trantrum what did put Tenma in the situation he is.

For gain my sympathy, she should starting try to ask forgiveness to Tenma and stop being so mean to him, say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for when I threw your promise ring, when I dumped you in the worst way possible and for no reason, I'm sorry for trying to manipulate you when I tried to date you back and you rejected me, and I'm sorry for slandering you to the cops and make you a fugivite, she should also confess and say that she made a false accusation of him, she should confess that she slandered him, accepting her time in prison, but it's not like she is going to do all that.

She risked her life once because of Tenma, but that doesn't mean a thing, she just wants her husband to get back her status, and she wants Tenma because is the one that has loved sincerely her ass so it's like the one she thinks she will be able to manipulate.

I say I don't like her, I don't like her and I never will.
HazamelisMar 7, 2019 6:45 PM
Mar 10, 2019 8:26 AM

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Martin is fundamentally a good guy, he deserves better. He shouldn't have beaten the shit out of Tenma tho.
Also I am starting to like Eva a little bit more, I hated her at first so goddamn much.
Apr 11, 2019 12:35 AM

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I don't know what was more creepy if his smile or his words. That's the kind of guy that should be in an asylum.
Apr 16, 2019 3:43 PM

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Don't you dare to die Martin!
And who tha f is that crazy twink?
Jun 8, 2019 7:18 PM
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Honestly, I think the new guy is annoying. If he's supposed to be a new Johan, he's doing a bad job. I hope he dies.

Martin's life was so messed up. I feel vs for her. Eva doesn't deserve someone like him.
Nov 16, 2019 8:41 AM

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Guess, Tenma need more physical training from the Soldier. Speaking of the Soldier, I hope he appears again.

Oh, guess that's glasses man is not Franz Bonaparta.

Room 606, huh? Guess Johan prefers another room...
He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.
Nov 20, 2019 5:37 AM
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this is getting more and more interesting. Martin is great <3
Apr 18, 2020 7:44 AM

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I don't understand why they needed Eva to point out Johan. It's not like his face isn't already all over the place in the media, when he was lurking around Schubert. Makes no sense.

I don't get the attraction of Eva, it's already a mystery to me, why Tenma was dating her and now that guy who didn't even like her in the first place suddenly acts like a jealous lover and wants to protect her.

That new guy is disgusting.
May 24, 2020 3:53 PM
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shiroi-ookami said:
I don't understand why they needed Eva to point out Johan. It's not like his face isn't already all over the place in the media, when he was lurking around Schubert. Makes no sense.

Well, that's a valid point. Maybe Johan is using Eva to lure out Tenma.
Anyway, since Martin is as good as dead, he should've shot both Monsters. But he wouldn't make it out of the hotel alive then. It looks like brainwashing was effective and his desire to redeem himself by saving Eva was stronger.
Dec 24, 2020 10:00 AM

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Nice to see how they cleared up how the murder happened. I'm starting to like Martin. Sucks that he might be killed.
Mar 2, 2021 12:11 PM

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Martin has one hell of an Oedipus complex
Mar 21, 2021 5:44 AM
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I like Martin. =3

I mean he abandoned his mother how can you like that kind of person...
Mar 21, 2021 1:44 PM

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Who is that guy? I wonder if we will get any explanation about him. He seems to be another manipulator. Martin beating up Tenma was also unexpected.
Mar 25, 2021 9:30 PM
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Eva is a bitch and I knew it from the begining
May 4, 2021 6:43 AM
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I feel really bad for Martin it's obvious that he has a lot of unaddressed trauma. The new guy really freaks me out but he is very intriguing, I hope that we see more of him in this last quarter. I really didn't like Eva this episode she was being rude and judgemental for no reason.
Jun 20, 2021 8:40 PM
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Even if it's just a simple action like walking, something about johan is just so amazing lol



Jun 24, 2021 1:33 AM

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what was that? another version of the devil?
Jun 30, 2021 12:02 PM

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A Johan wannabe?!!!
Sep 14, 2021 3:57 PM

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so another johan huh

martin's story was tragic e

didn't thought johan would join a party
Oct 13, 2021 3:24 PM

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Even though Martin made some terrible choices, I feel quite sorry for the guy. He most likely could've led a normal life if not for his mother and ex-girlfriend being addicts (alcohol and drugs).

Nov 30, 2021 10:50 AM
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Martin had such a terrible past. For a side character like him, his story was well-written. What a masterpiece.
Jan 13, 2022 3:23 PM

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Great. A Johan wannabe...

And now that I think of it, Tenma really should have learned some CQC when he was learning how to shoot with that military dude.

So Martin is into women who are lost causes like his mother, huh? Oedipus complex sure is a bitch.

And by the way, why did those people need Eva to point out who Johan was? I mean, he was the right hand of one of Europe's most important men for fuck's sake.
Apr 1, 2022 8:41 PM

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man martin looks like hes about to off himself
May 18, 2022 8:38 AM

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I thought I'd see more people complain about why Martin didn't kill Eva when she said to do it
Sep 25, 2022 5:44 PM
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a great introduction to a random character, regular anime would make side characters like this just like NPC, soulless, I love this attention to detail.
Jan 16, 2023 7:08 AM
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the gaslighting was strong with this one
Jan 24, 2023 3:41 PM
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Poor Martin. He expreienced so hard stuff. His story is so sad. Now he's just empty.

Why Johan and him had no direct contact? Maybe they will have.

I have the feeling Tenma and Eva will encounter each other soon but...I guess it won't end very glad.
Apr 8, 2023 1:14 PM

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Johan’s presence alone is terrifying
Jun 22, 2023 11:19 AM
Absolute Zenith

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Still don't like Eva, she's the best when it comes to disappointment. Always have a knack to ruin her own character's redemption. Would be joyous to see her wish to just be killed come true.

The more interesting part of the ep is when Martin talks to this kid, based on how the kid is surprised at times when he confirms a fact regarding Martin, he's definitely been taught all this information about Martin by Johan. Hell, he's also using some of the speech magic that Johan uses to psychologically mess with Martin.

The last scene where Martin tries his best not to look at the face of the devil as he walks passed Johan was tense.

Jul 4, 2023 9:07 PM
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El episodio más fuerte hasta ahora creo
Jul 15, 2023 2:25 AM
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I can see why Martin aggressiveness came from. His past trauma cause him to be overprotective of Eva who remind him of his mother and lover.
Nov 3, 2023 6:59 AM
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Bro gets hypnotized
Apr 2, 2:38 AM

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Heuh, looks like a Johan wannabe copy and Martin's past was albeit tragic and sad and all.

Jun 22, 8:13 AM

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Lol that other guy acted really like a devil, how could he know about his mom that is crazy! I was thinking Martin gonna kill hi.. and why he didn't look at Johan???? strange very strange
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Dec 6, 1:47 PM

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That Mr. Martin's life is a fucking living breathing Freudian slip lmao
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