reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: I'm not the type of person to talk badly about anyone. Online or offline. Dude. What if: Just level with me here. What if: The EX found out she was a long time cheater -> Broke up with her -> She shredded his heart to pieces -> In an act of emotional insanity he retaliated -> She killed herself -> The only woman he ever loved betrayed him and died -> He might as well kill himself too. Okay so following this scenario we can either tell this man: "You were wrong and she didn't deserve this." or "She was a total slut and had it coming, it's a shame you had to put up with that." Like, okay, level with me here. Maybe the question isn't "what would you say". Maybe the question is "Who would you try to save?" Would you try to save the girl who's dead? Or would you try to save the man who's alive? Because right now it sounds a lot like you're shitting on the feelings of a man who's down on his luck. However, even if your made up scenario is right and the guy killed himself then I do feel bad for him too. If anything, her sending the video to him were mere speculations and nobody knows if they are true or not. I am shaming the people who harassed her online and on the streets, never even mentioning her boyfriend. Why is HE not in the news?! Why isn't he getting prosecuted for being the reason she killed herself like that one story of the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to commit suicide? Isn't it the same thing but in 2 different ways? Maybe he didn't actively try to get her killed but where's his apology about causing this? What if she never sent the video but her ex found it and shared it. There are so many ways we could twist the story because we don't know the truth. But the moral of my post is those people who are making fun of her probably watched her video and touched themselves to it. It's sickening how much of a hypocrite one can be. But you make it sound like it's his fault that she died. If alienation and soul crushing are the cause of her death, then killing her would have been self defense, as he would have almost died before that. She killed herself. It was a suicide. It wasn't anyone's fault but her own. |
Thrashinuva said: She killed herself because she got harassed all the time and had to quit her job and even change her name so if he felt any remorse, he would've either killed himself by now or made a video apologizing and crying. He probably doesn't.But you make it sound like it's his fault that she died. If alienation and soul crushing are the cause of her death, then killing her would have been self defense, as he would have almost died before that. She killed herself. It was a suicide. It wasn't anyone's fault but her own. If it's her fault that she sent the video, then it's his fault for sharing it. If she died because she sent the video then he should get prosecuted for sharing it. Is he worried to be in the public eye because he knows he'll get harassed and go through what she's been through? It's not self defense unless it's physical so no, if he killed her because she was taunting him it makes him a criminal and he would go to jail. |
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| Then it's everyone's fault for sharing it. The article said that by the time she went to court about it, it had been uploaded and shared with over a thousand people. It also said that it is unclear why she sent it to her ex and three other people so I don't know where you are getting this "it was probably leaked" nonsense from. You can blame her suicide on other people if you want to, but the bottom line is that her own actions lead to her own death. |
reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: She killed herself because she got harassed all the time and had to quit her job and even change her name so if he felt any remorse, he would've either killed himself by now or made a video apologizing and crying. He probably doesn't.But you make it sound like it's his fault that she died. If alienation and soul crushing are the cause of her death, then killing her would have been self defense, as he would have almost died before that. She killed herself. It was a suicide. It wasn't anyone's fault but her own. If it's her fault that she sent the video, then it's his fault for sharing it. If she died because she sent the video then he should get prosecuted for sharing it. Is he worried to be in the public eye because he knows he'll get harassed and go through what she's been through? It's not self defense unless it's physical so no, if he killed her because she was taunting him it makes him a criminal and he would go to jail. If it's not self defense because it isn't physical, then it isn't murder if it isn't physical either. And so you're saying that she should get the upper hand on him in the end? She committed suicide so he should be punished for it? What kind of world would we live in if just being around someone who died landed you in jail? |
Thrashinuva said: If what you're saying is true then when school bullies are murdered its in self defense. Attacking and killing someone because they are harassing you verbally makes you a murderer and should be thrown in jail.If it's not self defense because it isn't physical, then it isn't murder if it isn't physical either. And so you're saying that she should get the upper hand on him in the end? She committed suicide so he should be punished for it? What kind of world would we live in if just being around someone who died landed you in jail? I'm saying that when people say it's her fault for sending the video then it's equally his fault for sharing it on the internet. He shouldn't be killed for it but when people say "it's good she went through harassment because she is a slut" then they should also say "he should go through harassment too because he is an asshole". I don't blame either of them, since if she sent it in a moment of anger and he shared it in a moment of anger both of them are wrong and her death both their fault. But mostly, the fault of those who took turns harassing her and making her life hell. Those should really go through what she went through and know what they have done is like. |
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reiynii said: Pooping is natural. I guess we should just let everyone poop where they please. No need for discipline or self restraint, you're just a hypocrite if you think people shouldn't defecate where they so choose.Ratohnhaketon said: What a dream that you are living in. Love comes and goes but lust is very natural that any creatures craves. It's nothing to be ashamed of, and it is not wrong for anyone to sleep with people. Even sleeping with many people is okay.Or maybe some of us are self respecting human beings and uphold decent values so that we don't end up in this conundrum to begin with. This kind of drama doesn't occur in a monogamous, healthy relationship between two people who prioritize love over lust. Yes dear, you touching yourself according to you means you are not self respecting and you don't uphold any decent values. You do know that masturbating is an act of lust itself? Unless you are married and you only have sex with your wife/husband than you don't have self worth. What if a video of you touching yourself went viral and you got infinity harassed for it that you had to change your name and quit your job yet nobody stopped talking badly about you? Would you agree with them on the bad comments they would make about you? If not, then you are a hypocrite. Plus, we don't know for sure if this lady sent the video to her ex boyfriend because those are only speculation but even if she did, there's nothing wrong with someone having sex and even sharing it online. There's no need to harass anyone for trivial reasons. A video of me masturbating will never make it to the internet because I will never consent to someone recording me doing so nor would I ever share it with anyone if I was foolish enough to make one. Lust is the result of unchecked sexual urges that are very much out of your control. This happens when you lack discipline and think everything in your eyesight deserves a good shtupping. And for the record, there are plenty of people who live in my dream. They're called happily married and don't tend to have even 1/10 the problems of promiscuous people. |
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reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: If what you're saying is true then when school bullies are murdered its in self defense. Attacking and killing someone because they are harassing you verbally makes you a murderer and should be thrown in jail.If it's not self defense because it isn't physical, then it isn't murder if it isn't physical either. And so you're saying that she should get the upper hand on him in the end? She committed suicide so he should be punished for it? What kind of world would we live in if just being around someone who died landed you in jail? I'm saying that when people say it's her fault for sending the video then it's equally his fault for sharing it on the internet. He shouldn't be killed for it but when people say "it's good she went through harassment because she is a slut" then they should also say "he should go through harassment too because he is an asshole". I don't blame either of them, since if she sent it in a moment of anger and he shared it in a moment of anger both of them are wrong and her death both their fault. But mostly, the fault of those who took turns harassing her and making her life hell. Those should really go through what she went through and know what they have done is like. You're confusing the details of your own argument with my own. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is murder, then harassment in retaliation to harassment is self defense. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is not murder, then harassment is just plain harassment. Let's break down both examples you've pointed out, the case that's happened and this case of bully vs. bullied. Woman harasses ex boyfriend. Bully harasses bullied. Your argument is that these incidents are not attempted murder, but here's what you also argue. ex boyfriend harasses woman -> murder bullied physically kills bully -> murder Simply going by your statements, as you haven't given any sort of example of what would not constitute murder, it seems to me that what you believe is that any retaliation at all to bullying intrinsically amounts to murder/attempted murder. However the initial harassment itself is just fine, and should simply be looked past and forgiven. |
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gallivant said: Best thing about this story is her parents condemning the mean people. Completely ignoring the fact that her daughter is a 31 year old woman that made group sex tapes and sent them to exes. Sounds pretty mean to me tbh. You're just guilty you fapped to them, bruh |
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Ratohnhaketon said: You are twisting my words. I didn't say you could have sex anywhere, but rather it's okay if you have sex even if you are not married and even if you sleep with many people. It's like you're saying "you can only poop in one toilet and if you poop in any other toilet you are a bad person and should kill yourself".Pooping is natural. I guess we should just let everyone poop where they please. No need for discipline or self restraint, you're just a hypocrite if you think people shouldn't defecate where they so choose. A video of me masturbating will never make it to the internet because I will never consent to someone recording me doing so nor would I ever share it with anyone if I was foolish enough to make one. Lust is the result of unchecked sexual urges that are very much out of your control. This happens when you lack discipline and think everything in your eyesight deserves a good shtupping. And for the record, there are plenty of people who live in my dream. They're called happily married and don't tend to have even 1/10 the problems of promiscuous people. There are 7 billion people out there and all of them are different. Some wouldn't want to get filmed and the others don't mind. Porn stars exist because they are okay with being filmed having sex and they shouldn't be outcast just because they are doing something that everybody does but for people to see. 50% of married couple or even more get a divorce. A lot of men cheat on their wives because they couldn't receive their sexual needs anymore and vice versa. Sex is normal and love is normal too. I believe in love, but I also believe that it's okay to lust after people. I would never believe it if you said you haven't seen a person of your preference and thought they were sexy. Oh my goodness. I didn't say you should want to hump everything in front of you. That's animalistic. I'm saying having sex and thinking about sex is totally okay. |
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Thrashinuva said: But you said this: If alienation and soul crushing are the cause of her death, then killing her would have been self defense, as he would have almost died before that. You didn't say "then her committing suicide" but rather "killing her" which confused me. I thought you were saying that if she was harassing him and he physically killed her it's self defense because in that case, it isn't.You're confusing the details of your own argument with my own. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is murder, then harassment in retaliation to harassment is self defense. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is not murder, then harassment is just plain harassment. Let's break down both examples you've pointed out, the case that's happened and this case of bully vs. bullied. Woman harasses ex boyfriend. Bully harasses bullied. Your argument is that these incidents are not attempted murder, but here's what you also argue. ex boyfriend harasses woman -> murder bullied physically kills bully -> murder Simply going by your statements, as you haven't given any sort of example of what would not constitute murder, it seems to me that what you believe is that any retaliation at all to bullying intrinsically amounts to murder/attempted murder. However the initial harassment itself is just fine, and should simply be looked past and forgiven. I think you are missing the point of my first post since I'm obviously not saying he should be thrown in jail for her committing suicide but rather that he should show some remorse (he might have not publicly). I haven't even brought the boyfriend up in the first place until you did? He isn't completely innocent but it isn't completely his fault either. It's the fault of those who harassed her. |
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| @AxBattler Are we even talking about the same case here? Why did she have to change her name and quit her job if she wasn't harassed? Your comment baffled me. 2 soccer players (I think) made a video making fun of her and mocking her. What was the need for them to do that? How did they know the details of the video in order to mock her? They had to have watched it. Plus, how do people find such videos? Through porn sites and what do people do when browsing porn sites? They are watching porn and touching themselves, duh. How is that not harassment?! Do you think she would've killed herself if people didn't make fun of her EVEN IN THE STREETS?! Also, I heard the story from Philip DeFranco in this video at around 10:58 in it he says "there are claims that she sent the video". CLAIMS which means it isn't necessarily true. Different websites say different things and different people believe different things. I'm talking badly about the people who harassed her, yes of course I am. I think everyone should go through what they make others go through. I wish that they could get harassed and know what it feels to cause misery to others. I never said I was an angel. I feel bad for the lady, that so many people deem her bad because of one act she might've committed. And it wasn't even unusual. It was just sex. |
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| This thread is sickening. It's nasty how everyone thinks that sex is so taboo someone killing themselves because of it does not need to be respected. You all act like angels when you people are absolutely disgusting. YOU have some respect for yourself! |
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| All the niggas who talked bad about this girl, i hope they ones experience the same thing in the near future. And I hope it gets posted here in MAL too |
reiynii said: You are twisting my words. I didn't say you could have sex anywhere, but rather it's okay if you have sex even if you are not married and even if you sleep with many people. It's like you're saying "you can only poop in one toilet and if you poop in any other toilet you are a bad person and should kill yourself". you could have sex anywhere. it's okay if you have sex even if you are not married and even if you sleep with many people. That sounds like splitting hair. It means almost the same thing. reiynii said: There's a consequence for everything. Hiding behind the excuse "everybody is different doesn't cut it. And some people are mean. In the end everything was her choice that lead to her to suicide. Or is it because she happens to be a lady, we have to be sympathetic to her? If the gender switched, the internet would have been just as merciless.There are 7 billion people out there and all of them are different. Some wouldn't want to get filmed and the others don't mind. Porn stars exist because they are okay with being filmed having sex and they shouldn't be outcast just because they are doing something that everybody does but for people to see. |
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reiynii said: Porn stars enter into signed contracts in which they relegate their dignity in return for income. It's a consensual agreement that has clearly defined legal parameters.You are twisting my words. I didn't say you could have sex anywhere, but rather it's okay if you have sex even if you are not married and even if you sleep with many people. It's like you're saying "you can only poop in one toilet and if you poop in any other toilet you are a bad person and should kill yourself". There are 7 billion people out there and all of them are different. Some wouldn't want to get filmed and the others don't mind. Porn stars exist because they are okay with being filmed having sex and they shouldn't be outcast just because they are doing something that everybody does but for people to see. 50% of married couple or even more get a divorce. A lot of men cheat on their wives because they couldn't receive their sexual needs anymore and vice versa. Sex is normal and love is normal too. I believe in love, but I also believe that it's okay to lust after people. I would never believe it if you said you haven't seen a person of your preference and thought they were sexy. Oh my goodness. I didn't say you should want to hump everything in front of you. That's animalistic. I'm saying having sex and thinking about sex is totally okay. And obviously when I said happily married, I wasn't referring to divorcees. That's the very antithesis of a healthy, stable relationship. Divorce rates are high in a society that shuns virtue, mocks commitment, and celebrates debauchery. It's no wonder people think marriage is a failed construct when they use it to keep their booty call closer, not because they want to seek a commitment. Yes sex is normal. Getting stupped on camera and sending it to your ex thinking it won't go viral is not. Suicide is sad but it's not a free pass on responsibility. |
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Syndromic said: No, it's very different. Having sex with many people indoors or in your own privacy is okay. It's different from having sex in public which is illegal.you could have sex anywhere. it's okay if you have sex even if you are not married and even if you sleep with many people. That sounds like splitting hair. It means almost the same thing. Syndromic said: I've heard this a million times. She made a mistake out of anger and she shouldn't have gotten harassed for it. Nobody should be harassed because they had sex.There's a consequence for everything. Hiding behind the excuse "everybody is different doesn't cut it. And some people are mean. In the end everything was her choice that lead to her to suicide. Or is it because she happens to be a lady, we have to be sympathetic to her? If the gender switched, the internet would have been just as merciless. It's the same if it was a guy who committed suicide. Harassment is not okay is the point of everything that I'm saying. It's her fault for sending the video, but the fault of everyone who harassed her that she died. Simple as that. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: You are very closed minded, I feel tainted just having been in an argument with you. If you touch yourself then you are an immoral, disgusting and an unworthy human being. Do you think it makes you a better person because you don't do it on camera? Of course it doesn't. Those who do it on camera are not "relegating their dignity" but rather people with very respectable jobs that make then you will ever do. Get over yourself, this is 2016.Porn stars enter into signed contracts in which they relegate their dignity in return for income. It's a consensual agreement that has clearly defined legal parameters. And obviously when I said happily married, I wasn't referring to divorcees. That's the very antithesis of a healthy, stable relationship. Divorce rates are high in a society that shuns virtue, mocks commitment, and celebrates debauchery. It's no wonder people think marriage is a failed construct when they use it to keep their booty call closer, not because they want to seek a commitment. Yes sex is normal. Getting stupped on camera and sending it to your ex thinking it won't go viral is not. Suicide is sad but it's not a free pass on responsibility. Divorce is everywhere except in countries where it is illegal and even then, most married couples don't have a good relationship. You are a delusional human being. I'd prefer if we don't converse anymore because you are making me say things I've never uttered in my life. |
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Klad said: I agree. Thank you.All the niggas who talked bad about this girl, i hope they ones experience the same thing in the near future. And I hope it gets posted here in MAL too |
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reiynii said: Strange, I thought we were having a civil discussion on a public forum. Or am I not allowed to respond to something you've made public because waving around the wrong opinion is natural? So porn is a respectable career is it? Are you going to equate it to being a fireman or paramedic now? Is sucking dick really as noble as saving lives?You are very closed minded, I feel tainted just having been in an argument with you. If you touch yourself then you are an immoral, disgusting and an unworthy human being. Do you think it makes you a better person because you don't do it on camera? Of course it doesn't. Those who do it on camera are not "relegating their dignity" but rather people with very respectable jobs that make then you will ever do. Get over yourself, this is 2016. Divorce is everywhere except in countries where it is illegal and even then, most married couples don't have a good relationship. You are a delusional human being. I'd prefer if we don't converse anymore because you are making me say things I've never uttered in my life. Doesn't really matter if it's 2016 or 1939. The year is completely irrelevant to the principle. "Most married couples don't have a good relationship" - Statistics please. You have the freedom and opportunity to stop posting wrong opinions whenever you so choose. I won't hold a gun to your head. Just ironic how you're white knighting anyone who says this girl owns the responsibility of her actions while graciously condemning them to death and suffering. |
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reiynii said: O.o , lol thesethere's nothing wrong with someone having sex and even sharing it online. There's no need to harass anyone for trivial reasons. Unless u're dealing with legit porn, there are consequences for sharing ur private activity mate |
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Nigella_sativa said: Sex is sex. Nobody should get harassed for doing it offline or online. If you dislike it, don't look at it. Simple as that. Everybody does it and it's normal. There should be no consequences for doing such a normal human activity.reiynii said: O.o , lol thesethere's nothing wrong with someone having sex and even sharing it online. There's no need to harass anyone for trivial reasons. Unless u're dealing with legit porn, there are consequences for sharing ur private activity mate |
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reiynii said: and u're trolling..Nigella_sativa said: Sex is sex. Nobody should get harassed for doing it offline or online. If you dislike it, don't look at it. Simple as that. Everybody does it and it's normal. There should be no consequences for doing such a normal human activity.O.o , lol these Unless u're dealing with legit porn, there are consequences for sharing ur private activity mate Look around u there're billions and billions ppl saw sex(which is sex) as an "private" activity a.k.a private . Unless u're porn actor or an animal try to go share video of urself fapping then, lol, and talk how normal it was with ur privacy :v |
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AxBattler said: well I don't think like that and bet many ppl too, for stuff like sex. The "private" on that was a deep one and so taboo in many society. It's not like us share some bedstory, but it was frame by frame. @Nigella_sativa To be fair, I happen to agree that there is nothing "wrong" with sharing your private life online. But if you put your private life online for everyone to see, you can pretty much expect various comments, positive and negative, and if you can't handle that, then you really ought rethink it. Preferably before hitting that share button because once it spread, it's almost impossible to stop. That said, it's not like people will care about it forever and had she held on to it, the storm most likely would've passed (like most meme). The irony of it is that now the news of her suicide probably made the video more well known than ever. thing will just blending with other porns on amateur category. |
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| @AxBattler You seem to base off your entire conversation on the fact that she did send the video but many different sites say different things and it's up to the reader which one to believe. CNN even says "sent video to friends" never even mentioning the ex boyfriend. But Daily Mail is a pretty reputable source in my opinion. - Daily Mail article 3rd paragraph: "There are claims in Italy that she had sent the video to her former lover to taunt him." - Sky News Article paragraph 10: "It was even repeated in other YouTube videos, some featuring famous footballers." She wasn't harassed? I really do wonder if you read the entire article, not just the original post of this thread because the phrase she says whilst having sex became viral and was printed on T-shits and phone cases. She was mocked and made fun of on the street and on her social media, she became a national joke for an entire year in Italy. She did everything to escape; change her name, move, quit her job but nothing worked. AxBattler said: Politicians and celebrities have bodyguards and people to protect them. They know that they stand in a higher level than the commoners who speak badly about them. They are not just regular middle class citizens who HAVE to go outside to get jobs, meet people and make money.Because it's about her, not at her. People criticise Trump or <insert your favourite politician> online and "EVEN IN THE STREETS" all the time, but they obviously don't see it as a reason to end their lives, nor are they calling it harassment. Tiziana was in debt after she went to court to get the video removed. She wound up having to pay 20k Euros in legal fees. They took everything she did and turned it against her. I'm sure that is not harassment in your book. 1. Anyone doing something silly things risk being ridiculed. Yup. Because famous football players have nothing better to do than make fun of a girl who did something extremely normal. I also mentioned "I think" because the article I saw yesterday was barely in English. |
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Nigella_sativa said: Sorry dear, I speak English ^^and u're trolling.. Look around u there're billions and billions ppl saw sex(which is sex) as an "private" activity a.k.a private . Unless u're porn actor or an animal try to go share video of urself fapping then, lol, and talk how normal it was with ur privacy :v |
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reiynii said: keep defend that whoreNigella_sativa said: Sorry dear, I speak English ^^and u're trolling.. Look around u there're billions and billions ppl saw sex(which is sex) as an "private" activity a.k.a private . Unless u're porn actor or an animal try to go share video of urself fapping then, lol, and talk how normal it was with ur privacy :v |
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reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: But you said this: If alienation and soul crushing are the cause of her death, then killing her would have been self defense, as he would have almost died before that. You didn't say "then her committing suicide" but rather "killing her" which confused me. I thought you were saying that if she was harassing him and he physically killed her it's self defense because in that case, it isn't.You're confusing the details of your own argument with my own. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is murder, then harassment in retaliation to harassment is self defense. If harassing someone and them killing themselves is not murder, then harassment is just plain harassment. Let's break down both examples you've pointed out, the case that's happened and this case of bully vs. bullied. Woman harasses ex boyfriend. Bully harasses bullied. Your argument is that these incidents are not attempted murder, but here's what you also argue. ex boyfriend harasses woman -> murder bullied physically kills bully -> murder Simply going by your statements, as you haven't given any sort of example of what would not constitute murder, it seems to me that what you believe is that any retaliation at all to bullying intrinsically amounts to murder/attempted murder. However the initial harassment itself is just fine, and should simply be looked past and forgiven. I think you are missing the point of my first post since I'm obviously not saying he should be thrown in jail for her committing suicide but rather that he should show some remorse (he might have not publicly). I haven't even brought the boyfriend up in the first place until you did? He isn't completely innocent but it isn't completely his fault either. It's the fault of those who harassed her. Nah I don't think he should apologize at all. At least not at this point. He's grieving on his own and providing a push could be enough to set him up on his own suicide. I was continuing on the setup you provided. If there's any fault here, then she's to blame. |
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| What a crude human being you are. I feel disgusted being in the same thread as you. I also hardly believe that you are female with such behavior. You are very unpleasant to be around indeed. |
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Thrashinuva said: I don't think you've been reading the posts here and I don't think you should. These people turn into animals when they are online.Look I don't think anyone is slut-shaming here. |
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reiynii said: my sole existence in this thread is not for pleasant-ing anybodyNigella_sativa said: What a crude human being you are. I feel disgusted being in the same thread as you. I also hardly believe that you are female with such behavior. You are very unpleasant to be around indeed.keep defend that whore |
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Nigella_sativa said: I don't think you should be in an English thread if you can't speak the language lolmy sole existence in this thread is not for pleasant-ing anybody |
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reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: I don't think you've been reading the posts here and I don't think you should. These people turn into animals when they are online.Look I don't think anyone is slut-shaming here. All of these people have displayed normal actions to take. It's more barbaric for you to take actions that would possibly result in the death of a hurt man. Some of those who have said hurtful things about her have done so out of sympathy for this man. Some of them simply have a different set of beliefs than her. You have a different set of beliefs than they do, and are taking similar actions to them. The only difference is the subject of attention. |
Thrashinuva said: Uh, calling a dead person a "slut" or "unworthy of respect" or "whore" is something very animalistic. Calling an alive person for that matter is horrific, let alone a passed person.All of these people have displayed normal actions to take. It's more barbaric for you to take actions that would possibly result in the death of a hurt man. Some of those who have said hurtful things about her have done so out of sympathy for this man. Some of them simply have a different set of beliefs than her. You have a different set of beliefs than they do, and are taking similar actions to them. The only difference is the subject of attention. Why are you so hung up on her boyfriend? Do you know him personally? Are you confident he is heartbroken she died? Are you sure he isn't laughing over his actions? I am very happy the reports say he is getting investigated and I hope he gets charged if he isn't showing any remorse. I act in a similar manner? The words that have been said in this thread have never came out of my mouth for 19 years because I'm a respectable human being, unlike everyone who was saying bad things about the girl here. I am merely horrified at how terrible some people could be. |
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reiynii said: I think kid should go to sleep, it's night alreadyNigella_sativa said: I don't think you should be in an English thread if you can't speak the language lolmy sole existence in this thread is not for pleasant-ing anybody |
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reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: Uh, calling a dead person a "slut" or "unworthy of respect" or "whore" is something very animalistic. Calling an alive person for that matter is horrific, let alone a passed person.All of these people have displayed normal actions to take. It's more barbaric for you to take actions that would possibly result in the death of a hurt man. Some of those who have said hurtful things about her have done so out of sympathy for this man. Some of them simply have a different set of beliefs than her. You have a different set of beliefs than they do, and are taking similar actions to them. The only difference is the subject of attention. Why are you so hung up on her boyfriend? Do you know him personally? Are you confident he is heartbroken she died? Are you sure he isn't laughing over his actions? I am very happy the reports say he is getting investigated and I hope he gets charged if he isn't showing any remorse. I act in a similar manner? The words that have been said in this thread have never came out of my mouth for 19 years because I'm a respectable human being, unlike everyone who was saying bad things about the girl here. I am merely horrified at how terrible some people could be. Are you confident the woman committed suicide because of his actions? We could go at this all day, but my lack of information is the same as your lack of information. I don't care if these people actually had called her a slut, it's still a safer path than vindicating the man for all this. |
| I'm Canadian. I don't know anything about British newspapers but then comes the argument of people having different opinions about publishers and wanting to deny whatever headline comes from their least favourite site/paper. I think you'll hear bad opinions about any news site out there. Thanks for your advise, but I barely ever argue so I don't think I'll need it. Mocking is harassment. If someone is repeating something that you said in a mockingly manner then they are harassing and bullying you. She might not have been physically in danger, but it's a different story when a celebrity is targeted or when a normal human is targeted because normal people have to go out and do normal people things. Celebrities can get driven anywhere, given anything and have anything done when normal people don't. The harassment continued for a full year despite all what she did to stop them. She got depressed. Are you also going to say depression is not a good reason for suicide? AxBattler said: Because people didn't say her catch phrase in a friendly manner like that "white Vans" quote but rather in a mockingly way as if they were humiliating her.But, repeating the question, given that what she did was "extremely normal", why does she care that she became recognizable, and her catch phrase popular countrywide? What would you do if a celebrity made a video holding a picture of you that you posted on your social media and making fun of it and then you got infinitely harassed by everyone online and offline? And on top of that, despite trying to sue that celebrity, you had to pay 23k$? Your life would be tormenting and it would be very hard to pay that money back. I'm assuming you are going to say "I'd be chill and laugh with him" but that would be just talk. |
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Thrashinuva said: We could go at it all day indeed but the fact that you brought up this boyfriend conversation when I never even talked about him to begin with makes zero sense to me. I didn't say we should blame him, but I am happy they are looking further into this with him.Are you confident the woman committed suicide because of his actions? We could go at this all day, but my lack of information is the same as your lack of information. I don't care if these people actually had called her a slut, it's still a safer path than vindicating the man for all this. If he is a bad person, he should and will receive proper punishment is all. |
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reiynii said: Thrashinuva said: We could go at it all day indeed but the fact that you brought up this boyfriend conversation when I never even talked about him to begin with makes zero sense to me. I didn't say we should blame him, but I am happy they are looking further into this with him.Are you confident the woman committed suicide because of his actions? We could go at this all day, but my lack of information is the same as your lack of information. I don't care if these people actually had called her a slut, it's still a safer path than vindicating the man for all this. If he is a bad person, he should and will receive proper punishment is all. What you got into is why everyone here are such horrible, deplorable, wastes of human space. I was just telling you why you were wrong to think so. |
reiynii said: This explains everything about blowing things out of proportion.I'm Canadian. |
| No way to recall What it was that you had said to me Like I care at all But it was so loud And you sure could yell You took a stand on every little thing And it was so loud |
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