Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Episode 15 Discussion

Jagd84 said:


Let me try understand what you're saying here. The girl who saved his life, gave him stability (a job, shelter and food) supported him and is still cares enough to have his injuries treated despite they fight is forced, compared to another who killed him in one timeline then tortured him another... Do realize how backwards that sounds right?

Rem maybe better now but doesn't change she did do terrible things to Subaru at one point so if any relationship is closer to being forced it is her's. But I don't think there any forced relationships to begin with, everyone here had their reasons to grow attached to each even if some people desperately want to forget that.



The point of my post that you comment was dumb and your excuse of plot convenience is blanket statement to bash the plot developments. We that story progress through loops since day, it's very concept and core of this show, not something randomly just for sake of it. You're whining about it is inane.

Z4k said:

If he really was such a saint then explain why he didn't choose to help a lost little girl in episode 1 and opted to help Emilia find the insignia instead?

CLIFF_No160 said:
Is anyone here familiar with the manga of this? If yes please let me know which manga and which chapter episode 15 is from??
And yes this is by far one of the best episodes!

Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu: Daisanshō - Truth of Zero

Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu: Dainishō - Yashiki no Isshūkan-hen

Chapter 1: A Day in the Capital

Fai said:
When a show goes edgy, even Puck becomes an edgelord.

First of all the ep starts with edge and a lot of it feels unneeded as MC angsts over destroyed mansion and dead characters and keeps realizing what a piece of shit of a person he is. I mean did we not go through this when the curse killed Rem in Arc 2? Oh wait we did. So this is repeat of that, except with more edge and gore, which is not why I watch Rezero for. The whole freezing part at the start was too much. NOPE. Fuck that.

Anyway, new villain looks and acts like he escaped from Akame Ga Kill. What the fuck is even such a character?
Fucking had to fast-forward the scenes with the edgy villain because of how disgusting they were. Most of the dude's whose name is too hard to remember screentime was half disgust half disbelief on whether I should take it seriously. I would not if most of the shit he does was not this gory and revolting. Ugh


Overall Rem was the saving grace of the episode. Out of entire cast, she remains the most likeable and badass character.

And Subaru still remains a pitiful asshole. At least hopefully this will serve as a lesson to him. Now hopefully since we are done with this we can actually see Subaru fix this shit and stop being an asshole in progress, instead of this gruesome torture porn.

3/5

Devil_Slayer said:
She's there to be love interset for subaru "for no reason "
while Rem is there to be #Best_Girl xD

Seriously i would throw away any girl in my head if i meet a girl care for me this much xD

RockerXD said:


Subaru needs to git gud

nightcrawlercyp said:
Actually he saved her life first and also retrieved her insignia. If this did not happen she would have lost the right to candidate for the next queen position, she would have been kicked out from the mansion and so on. Also although she masks it she is a narcissistic person and an relationship with her will be one in which he is abused emotionally at every step. About Rem killing and torturing him you must understand he was an intruder at the time. A stranger comes and everything points to him being up to no good. What would be your reaction? And yeah I agree Rem is a better choice.

Kittens-kun said:


And we are back again for Fai's weekly cringe. lol.
Just drop the show. Please.

YuriShipper said:
I agree. I'm thinking the same thing, too. You know it's funny. I originally watched this with quite a rather indifferent mindset. I was pretty much The Grinch towards the girls in first watching this because due to past experiences with Senjougahara, Asuna, and pretty much the entire cast of Gate. So when I got to Emilia, I was like saying "oh not bad. I can see why she's a pretty good waifu tier in pixiv.", then when I got to the oni twins, I was at first kinda annoyed with how they talked and insulted Subaru whenever they got a chance. I was at first saying, "people like them because they are moe and cold? And twins as bonus??" But as it progressed, those 2 slowly grew on me. When the Rem arc came, she came off as a yandere, or at least something close to Ryuugu Rena. I was kinda speechless. and didn't know what to think. And then when the Rem arc finally ended and Rem clearly showed her love and support even though she knows fully well that he only has eyes on Emilia (ick), that really got me revising my initial opinion of her. Of course, I still love Betty the most since she was great at the beginning (but even for her at first I thought, "oh great... A unique pupil eyed loli.... *CoughNiaCough* this should be interesting..."), but Rem has earned a nice spot in my heart now.

And like I mentioned in a post earlier. She's the second coming of Kuroneko. SubaRUE the fool if he chooses Emilia after this. The only thing THAT girl comes with is just a lot more heartaches/headaches/deaths.
Even though the author made a WhatIf for Rem. He should've made the sidestory with Emilia and made Rem the main girl.

SoraSenpai said:
Wow...unFUCKINGbelieveable.

When Rem got strung-up and twisted around I was going insane! That was fucking brutal.
Rem had some great moments and some great quotes while wanting to protect Subaru.

That confession at the end though...I was in tears.

Then that fucking GIANT WOLF!!!! "Sleep...along with my daughter" *headless* GOD DAMN!!!!!! who could the Daughter have been???? Add another mystery to the list.

Those Subaru eyes at the end though...determination.

TEC_TEC said:
Can anyone tell what is that in the background with shining eye that kill the main character... ty

aetasx said:
I don't know how people are so emotionally tied to what goes on anymore. He's just going to revert time back and everything will be fine again. It's the same emotional cycle they always use: "something gets messed up -> he cries -> time reverts" loop 1000x.

aetasx said:
I don't know how people are so emotionally tied to what goes on anymore. He's just going to revert time back and everything will be fine again. It's the same emotional cycle they always use: "something gets messed up -> he cries -> time reverts" loop 1000x.

Jagd84 said:



"I don't' why anyone is invested in hero's story anymore. He's just gonna get back up and eventually defeat the villain."

It is not destination that counts, it's the journey.

Jagd84 said:


That is retarded. Last time I checked this is Re:Zero not Rem:Zero where only her character matters. Other than emotional support due Subaru's own screwups she doesn't offer anything to the story line. She neither candidate for the throne, or has any connections to Witch Cult and Satella. Other than fluffy SoL nonsense you don't have a plot with her because she is an open book. Rem can't support a story own her because very little to her character beyond what you know here.

If you're gonna use this excuse to watch the show and deny any other future developments because of your blunt bias just drop this already.

aetasx said:

There's a difference between knowing whatever is going to happen in an anime than knowing someone will eventually win. As soon as Rem dies, we instantly know he's going to get killed and she'll be alive again, because thats all this anime is about.

YuriShipper said:
I agree. I'm thinking the same thing, too. You know it's funny. I originally watched this with quite a rather indifferent mindset. I was pretty much The Grinch towards the girls in first watching this because due to past experiences with Senjougahara, Asuna, and pretty much the entire cast of Gate. So when I got to Emilia, I was like saying "oh not bad. I can see why she's a pretty good waifu tier in pixiv.", then when I got to the oni twins, I was at first kinda annoyed with how they talked and insulted Subaru whenever they got a chance. I was at first saying, "people like them because they are moe and cold? And twins as bonus??" But as it progressed, those 2 slowly grew on me. When the Rem arc came, she came off as a yandere, or at least something close to Ryuugu Rena. I was kinda speechless. and didn't know what to think. And then when the Rem arc finally ended and Rem clearly showed her love and support even though she knows fully well that he only has eyes on Emilia (ick), that really got me revising my initial opinion of her. Of course, I still love Betty the most since she was great at the beginning (but even for her at first I thought, "oh great... A unique pupil eyed loli.... *CoughNiaCough* this should be interesting..."), but Rem has earned a nice spot in my heart now.

And like I mentioned in a post earlier. She's the second coming of Kuroneko. SubaRUE the fool if he chooses Emilia after this. The only thing THAT girl comes with is just a lot more heartaches/headaches/deaths.
Even though the author made a WhatIf for Rem. He should've made the sidestory with Emilia and made Rem the main girl.

Linkmstr said:

You know how Subaru and Puck were both playing around in that one episode in the previous arc? Yeah, Puck was referring to Emilia as his "daughter".

So the scene where Puck kills Subaru and mentions his "daughter" implies that Emilia died.

Jagd84 said:


That is retarded. Last time I checked this is Re:Zero not Rem:Zero where only her character matters. Other than emotional support due Subaru's own screwups she doesn't offer anything to the story line. She neither candidate for the throne, or has any connections to Witch Cult and Satella. Other than fluffy SoL nonsense you don't have a plot with her because she is an open book. Rem can't support a story own her because very little to her character beyond what you know here.

If you're gonna use this excuse to watch the show and deny any other future developments because of your blunt bias just drop this already.

Jagd84 said:


No he didn't. IN the very first timeline she saved him, you confusing that with the very end of 3rd timeline. He states this himself in ep 13. This and plus the time they spent together is the whole reason he decided to help her to begin with. Subaru would not be here if not his feelings for Emilia or met any of these other people. This not even talking about he owes his current livelyhood, and even his treatment to her.

And point about Rem is not much of an excuse. She acted on her own without consulting with anyone and murdered him. That was wrong period. If she could see her actions before she be undeniably ashamed.

Frankly I'm not much of a shipper so whoever Subaru ends up is whatever but don't spread misinformation to prop you side. Everybody in show has reasons and devalue them when deny others.

NotEvenDead said:
666/5
Brutal , intense....During this 24 minutes i thought i was in the universe of Berserk...

nightcrawlercyp said:
First of all that is not the first timeline. If you watch closely the first episode there is a previous timeline to that in which both of them die and he tries to touch her hand as he is dying. Second the previous timelines matter only to Soubaru. We are discussing Emilia's actions and for her only the 3d timeline exist so discussing the previous ones is irrelevant for this discussion. I disagree about the time spent together. He becomes in love with her the moment she sees her. Her actions in previous timelines are just an excuse for his love for her.
About Rem yeah she did not talk to other people because it was clear to her Emilia was not thinking rationally when it came to Soubaru and suspected a spell, you know like a love spell or something.
And the fact that Emilia is main and Rem is supporting means that he will choose Emilia. But it is not the right choice. She has some psychological issues that cannot be ignored. If she does not solve her issues regardless of how much Soubaru loves her life will be hell for both of them. I dated girls with issues and let me tell you is difficult to deal with them.

RyuukiBeat said:
Subaru x Rem, OMG.....,