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Mar 12, 2016 11:46 AM
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i think we all know how bad some of these rankings are

with that being said, i have come up with two great solutions:

1. reset every rating on this website. this means all our anime in our list will have no rating

2. rather than 10 being highest, we should change it to 1 being highest, it makes more sense

3. we should separate echii genres into a separate list since ratings are marked by sexual drives rather than objective quality
Mar 12, 2016 11:48 AM
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you know simpliest ways to fix it?

don't take mal ratings seriously. done.
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Mar 12, 2016 11:49 AM
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Can't tell if troll thread or if OP is idiotic.

Maybe both.
It's as @Kuma said. The first and only problem is when someone tries to take the ratings seriously.

But why stop at separating the ecchi genre?

Separate anime with fighting and action. They're driven by testosterone-filled rage loved only by violent people, rather than objective quality.
Separate romance anime, since they're driven by peace-loving hippies and hopeless romantics, rather than by objective quality.
Etc etc.
It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!
It's an entirely different kind of flying.
Mar 12, 2016 11:50 AM
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Reset mal score....
Okay. As if that will do anything

I somewhat agree with dem ecchi being somewhat seperated, but not in a way u suggested <-<
Mar 12, 2016 11:50 AM
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Why does 1 become the highest ?

How does that make more sense ?

Obligatory "There is no such thing as objectivity ".

MAL ratings are crap anyways .
Mar 12, 2016 11:50 AM
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Stop caring about the ratings so much, because in the end it doesn't really matter.
Mar 12, 2016 11:51 AM
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Or don't giving a shit about them?
Isn't that a solution?
Mar 12, 2016 11:52 AM
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KaceSpace said:
if people don't have any healthy points, please close your eyes

i take mal ratings seriously


Why ?In the end it's just a popularity contest on a larger scale .
Mar 12, 2016 11:54 AM
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If you take mal ratings seriously, you should slow down for a moment and rethink your life and the choices you made throughout it.
Mar 12, 2016 11:54 AM

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KaceSpace said:
if people don't have any healthy points, please close your eyes

i take mal ratings seriously


You really expected to only get helpful positive comments on this thread ?
Mar 12, 2016 11:54 AM

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There was an idea to have a different ranking system that standardizes everyone's rating system into a 1-10 scale with 5 being average for more accurate rankings, but it was rejected because it means that people with small lists will drag down ratings no matter what score they give them.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1478379

Someone else suggested a 1-5 scale with half points so people wouldn't compare it to school grades.
Mar 12, 2016 11:55 AM

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There's no way to fix the ratings.

The scores are all inflated, plus people rate everything differently. One guy will give a comedy a low score because it had shit character/animation/sound, another might give it a 10 because it entertained him.

There are the people that rate on scale of 5-10, and some who rate on 1-5.
TyrelMar 12, 2016 12:28 PM
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake
Mar 12, 2016 11:55 AM

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Resetting the ratings might actually work.
Because of it , lot of older anime's rating will drop a lot and newer and better ones will get better recognition.

I can't call the 2nd point anything but troll
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Mar 12, 2016 11:55 AM

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>healthy points
Alright then.
Resetting the ratings won't help, because the popularity of certain anime always wins out.
1 being the highest rating doesn't make sense, could you please explain why you think it should be that way?
I don't think making ecchi anime separate will work honestly, you're better off just not adding it to your list.
Mar 12, 2016 11:56 AM
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agree with ur third point...........

but second point is unecessary...:p
Mar 12, 2016 12:01 PM

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KaceSpace said:
1. reset every rating on this website. this means all our anime in our list will have no rating
so u mean only ratings given after the reset should count? cuz thats just silly
Mar 12, 2016 12:08 PM

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romagia said:
KaceSpace said:
1. reset every rating on this website. this means all our anime in our list will have no rating
so u mean only ratings given after the reset should count? cuz thats just silly


yes, because it's a pure reset

Often said:
>healthy points
Alright then.
Resetting the ratings won't help, because the popularity of certain anime always wins out.
1 being the highest rating doesn't make sense, could you please explain why you think it should be that way?
I don't think making ecchi anime separate will work honestly, you're better off just not adding it to your list.


it eliminates malicious scoring as well as all those fake accounts people created for give a 1 or 10 on an anime

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There's no way to fix the ratings.

The scores are all inflated, plus people rate everything differently. One guy will give a comedy a low score because it had shit character/animation/sound, another might give it a 10 because it entertained him.

There are the people that rate on scale of 5-10, and some who rate on 1-5.

The solution is to be salty about the ratings for no reason.


no one is salty, and it will bring out pure scores. it will help people realise how shounen are objectively better anime too
Mar 12, 2016 12:11 PM

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psychopath said:
If you take mal ratings seriously, you should slow down for a moment and rethink your life and the choices you made throughout it.


there is nothing wrong with taking the list seriously

FunkyNano said:
KaceSpace said:

3. we should separate echii genres into a separate list since ratings are marked by sexual drives rather than objective quality


That last idea wouldn't even be too bad for Hentai.

It would probably go something like:

1- Sad fap

2- (Jerk) Off on the wrong foot

3- Bad ;)

4- VERY bad ;)

5- Happy-Fappy Stroke n' Clappy

6- F i n e ;)

7- Solid

8- Faptastic

10- Creme dela creme ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


why no 9?

yes, i think separating sexually themed anime is best for the community of mal

Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button.
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Mar 12, 2016 12:13 PM

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KaceSpace said:
no one is salty, and it will bring out pure scores. it will help people realise how shounen are objectively better anime too
mm yes nothing else sais "pure scores" more than 2016 users not rating ecchi
hope u like Erased to be #1
Mar 12, 2016 12:13 PM

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KaceSpace said:
psychopath said:
If you take mal ratings seriously, you should slow down for a moment and rethink your life and the choices you made throughout it.


change your name before posting. there is nothing wrong with taking the list seriously


There is because that's like saying that you refuse to accept how many other people out there don't support your taste .
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KaceSpace said:
Often said:
>healthy points
Alright then.
Resetting the ratings won't help, because the popularity of certain anime always wins out.
1 being the highest rating doesn't make sense, could you please explain why you think it should be that way?
I don't think making ecchi anime separate will work honestly, you're better off just not adding it to your list.


it eliminates malicious scoring as well as all those fake accounts people created for give a 1 or 10 on an anime
Ohhh, then in that case I do understand.
Mar 12, 2016 12:14 PM

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If you reset the ratings they would eventually become the same as they are now.

Just don't give a shit about them, I know it's hard but you'll eventually stop caring.
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I don't think your first point would help anything, aside from insinuating anarchy for a brief moment in time.

Your second suggestion, the rating on this site is based on X/10, and the rankings already work in putting #1 ahead of #2.

For your third suggestion, what if an anime's intent was titillation? "Objective quality" aside, in trying to create a story revolving around sexuality, could there not be discussion around the human condition, one's sense of self, and their conflicting relationship with those around them? Couldn't that be something worth dissecting and understanding through whatever means available to assess anime? Also, separating sexuality from anime isn't the answer. For anime to mature as a medium, it's a subject matter that will continuously need to be tackled, understood, and developed until creators figure out how to present the subject matter, as well as until audiences can start treating the subject in moderation.
Mar 12, 2016 12:27 PM

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i'll jump to your third point, you're missing the point

sexuality used unnecessary isn't needed, why i made clearly by mentioning echii and now hentai

their reasons are to 'titillate', nothing else. at least it will bring clarity to the rankings
Mar 12, 2016 12:35 PM

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KaceSpace said:
i'll jump to your third point, you're missing the point

sexuality used unnecessary isn't needed, why i made clearly by mentioning echii and now hentai

their reasons are to 'titillate', nothing else. at least it will bring clarity to the rankings
Nanatsu no Taizai is ecchi but it also has some great action and great comedy. Hentai have been removed from the top anime rankings, but I don't seen any reason why ecchi should also be removed.
Mar 12, 2016 1:03 PM

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1 being greatest for some exam grades in certain countries. So I know where you get the score system from. But as MAL score rating, it doesn't work.

Mar 12, 2016 1:12 PM

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KaceSpace said:
i'll jump to your third point, you're missing the point

sexuality used unnecessary isn't needed, why i made clearly by mentioning echii and now hentai

their reasons are to 'titillate', nothing else. at least it will bring clarity to the rankings
Nanatsu no Taizai is ecchi but it also has some great action and great comedy. Hentai have been removed from the top anime rankings, but I don't seen any reason why ecchi should also be removed.


that is what is becoming wrong with this industry, the fear of losing money, they add echii themes for short term profit

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1 being greatest for some exam grades in certain countries. So I know where you get the score system from. But as MAL score rating, it doesn't work.


i know it doesn't work like that, that's why i'm suggesting this
Mar 13, 2016 12:06 AM

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"Great Solution" huh? It's more like making it worst.
1. Reset? Do you have any idea that most users got hundreds to thousands of entries on their list?
2. Since when 1 became higher than 10 on terms of Rating? Obviously you are thinking of Ranking.
3. Almost all anime got it every season and that means you get kid's show left to rate.
Yeah good luck with this stupid thread.
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Can't tell if troll thread or if OP is idiotic.
Maybe both.
Obviously it's a mix of both.
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 13, 2016 4:15 AM

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Eucli said:
ItsMaz said:
Can't tell if troll thread or if OP is idiotic.

Maybe both.

Exactly.

1st there is no reason to reset anything, and not really everyone has the same opinion with you on rankings.
2nd no it doesn't, that is stupid af,
3rd hentai are already separated. Also it's stupid af


it will remove bots and bring purity to the rankings

you don't win a race by being 10th, it's first, so changing it to 1 will be better. it will also have a huge impact on bots rating anime as 10 or 1

you provide no reasons

@rayzer see above
Mar 13, 2016 4:22 AM

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@KaceSpace
Damn it Read my post. Stop saying absurd things.
And oh please. "Bots" will just change 10 to 1. As easy as that.
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 13, 2016 4:27 AM

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i did read what you said, but you chose convience over the rating's clarity, please realise how that is wrong

but bots will find it hard and eventually give up
Mar 13, 2016 6:44 AM

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@KaceSpace
What are you saying? You are not making any sense. Rating was always from lowest to greatest.
"you don't win a race by being 10th, it's first, so changing it to 1 will be better."
This is an example of ranking which being compared to others. Not rating.
And bots are made by intelligent people so it's just too easy to modify.
That is, if they would ever do this stupid suggestion.

EDIT:
Oh wait, You are a certified troll.
So I can't win arguing with you.
Why do I even bother reasoning with you.
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 13, 2016 8:40 AM

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@rayzer that's why i think it's revolutionary thinking, and ranking and ratings can be the same if you memorise this definition

bots won't know what hit them since in their definition, ratings should be 1-10, the bot maker will have trouble setting up those algorithms
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FunkyNano said:
KaceSpace said:

3. we should separate echii genres into a separate list since ratings are marked by sexual drives rather than objective quality


That last idea wouldn't even be too bad for Hentai.

It would probably go something like:

1- Sad fap

2- (Jerk) Off on the wrong foot

3- Bad ;)

4- VERY bad ;)

5- Happy-Fappy Stroke n' Clappy

6- F i n e ;)

7- Solid

8- Faptastic

10- Creme dela creme ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 this is perfect. why havent the moderators developed this yet?
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i think the current rating's are fine and honestly i don't give a s--- about ratings
as long as i like it, i could care less about the rating
i know that you might want your fav anime to be in top 10 or something but that's just what the majority of the mal thinks, that it doesn't deserve it
Mar 16, 2016 7:32 PM

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@kamisama751,
What? That's 2 different criteria. There's no point joining it.
Top Anime Series and Most Favorited
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 17, 2016 8:30 AM

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@kamisama751,
What? That's 2 different criteria. There's no point joining it.
Top Anime Series and Most Favorited


??? Except they're both totally useless to tell if a show is good or not, they're just useful to mesure the popularity of a show. Number of favorites/people who scored it, while still flawed (it gives a huge advantage to long ass series thx to the 1/5 rule) actually tells you if a huge portion of the people who watched a show liked it enough to fav it.

And Utena rules with this rating system, hahaha.
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the bot maker will have trouble setting up those algorithms


What trouble?
Replacing "10" by "1" and "1" by "10" in their code?
That takes 30 seconds at best, if the guys are slow.

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And Utena rules with this rating system, hahaha.

So, it is objectively a better rating system. Utena should be on top, no matter what.
Mar 17, 2016 11:44 AM

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Please, just let this stupid suggestion die.
So that this will get buried and be forgotten.
Because the OP will just get motivated to troll more.
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 17, 2016 9:34 PM

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First off, reversing the ranking from 10 to 1 is just stupid. If you have difficulty thinking about it as is then think of it as a payment system.
Better Show, More Points.

Secondly, if any changes are mad in how the titles are rated then it is my suggestion that additional ratings be added to evaluate each title with respect to it's tags. Such as Drama 2/10, Romance 5/10, Comedy 9/10, etc...

By adding these more detailed options of evaluation that can be easily standardized across all titles, you enable people to rate them based off of what they got from the show. This should also then assist with more accurate "Overall" ratings of the show.
Would Grouping *Titles Within a Series/Franchise* in Search Results Improve MyAnimeList's Functionality?
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Mar 20, 2016 12:45 AM

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you're all wrong, coding isn't that easy and being number 1 is better than 10
Mar 22, 2016 4:58 PM

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KaceSpace said:
you're all wrong, coding isn't that easy

No one said it is, but the code is already written and adjusting one or two numbers in that code is 10000 times easier than it was writing it
Mar 23, 2016 8:22 AM

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Seriously, Please just let this thread die.
Or they should lock this thread already.
KaceSpace was clearly can't comprehend anything we say here.
He always insist his stupid argument on reversing the rating system.
If KaceSpace replies just don't respond so he won't have an urge to argue anymore.

As they say:
"Don't feed the trolls"
Haters always gonna hate.
Mar 24, 2016 10:51 PM

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Serhiyko said:
KaceSpace said:
you're all wrong, coding isn't that easy

No one said it is, but the code is already written and adjusting one or two numbers in that code is 10000 times easier than it was writing it


how did you come up with that sum?

Rayzer said:
Seriously, Please just let this thread die.
Or they should lock this thread already.
KaceSpace was clearly can't comprehend anything we say here.
He always insist his stupid argument on reversing the rating system.
If KaceSpace replies just don't respond so he won't have an urge to argue anymore.

As they say:
"Don't feed the trolls"


i still haven't had 1 point of mines debunked so you're using alternative means to shut my suggestion, which is racist and bigotry. all suggestions are fine
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how did you come up with that sum?

Well maybe I underestimated

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