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Mar 13, 2016 10:36 AM
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Man that was brutal.
Kinda horrific at some point.
Mar 13, 2016 10:38 AM
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This is all part of McGillis plans to get Carta dead.

What freaked me out that I didn't notice before was that all of Carta's minions were all hand picked to look like McGillis. Man she was obsessed with him.
Mar 13, 2016 10:57 AM
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Anyone else get goosebumps when that orchestral variation of the main theme played briefly near the end?

Can't wait for the OST
Mar 13, 2016 11:09 AM

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I have to say that Carta's death was moving, and even now I'm still wondering who to back. And which side should come out.

On the other hand, I kinda like Mika even more, I mean I bet he knows the "Death" game of the world, there is no room for a good old school battle, it's kill or be killed plain and simple.

Anyone know when they are going to release the dubbed ver? (I'm hoping it's done well to seal off this amazing package)
Mar 13, 2016 11:16 AM
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Spykr_Magio said:
This is all part of McGillis plans to get Carta dead.

What freaked me out that I didn't notice before was that all of Carta's minions were all hand picked to look like McGillis. Man she was obsessed with him.


You want to say: She was in love with him.
Mar 13, 2016 11:18 AM

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I think things are getting a bit too bloody and violent for Merribit. She'll probably be leaving Tekkadan.

I disliked Carta, but damn I was feeling bad for her when Mikazuki was brutally and mercilessly beating her down. However, did she really think that she could negotiate a fair fight with a bunch of "space rats"? Especially after she killed one of Tekkadan's own.
Mar 13, 2016 11:22 AM
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Hmm..

With this episode, I am not too sure if Sunrise is taking this series seriously.. Why do they not have enough budget to animate this consistently or even take it up a notch? Slightly disappointed

Still like the episode nonetheless (as a Gundam fan)
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That crying barbatos looks horrifying.

Kind of ironic how Carta wanted a fair fight yet two episodes ago she chased the mobile suit worker with Buscuit and Orga in it while she was fighting Mika. Anyways seeing Mika crush all those mechs was so satisfying.

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Me too!!!
Hhahaha it's strange, but I like McGuillis and Gaelio so much!

RIP Carta.. I like her.. and what a terrible death :(


You do realise he's playing both of them like a fiddle, right?

Yep just like Char
Mar 13, 2016 12:16 PM
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Mika was quite ruthless in this episode.
Mar 13, 2016 12:31 PM
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Z4k said:

dokidokidoing said:


You do realise he's playing both of them like a fiddle, right?

Yep just like Char


That's it! McGuillis is just the perfect Char Clone, he has the same personality.
Mar 13, 2016 12:50 PM

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luccide said:
Hmm..

With this episode, I am not too sure if Sunrise is taking this series seriously.. Why do they not have enough budget to animate this consistently or even take it up a notch? Slightly disappointed

Still like the episode nonetheless (as a Gundam fan)


Most of their better animators are tied up on Thunderbolt and Origin right now. More than likely a lot of this series gets outsourced unfortunately
Mar 13, 2016 1:04 PM

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Am I the only that feels like Tekkadan's more of an antagonist group role while the other's are the protagonists, these kids are scary as fck, not that I dont understand where they're coming from, I mean at a young age they had been abused and experimented on with those "araya shiki" but damn..... especially Mika, if they continue on like this then they'll most likely die.

At least it isnt a far stretch to say that Mika wanted to reach the place that Orga was talking about turns out to become the after life, at least there you wont need food and a place to rest lol.
Mar 13, 2016 1:12 PM

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Ein is now a Gundam *Setsuna glaring darts of jealousy in the distance*

I liked Carta tbh, but she was fucking dumb this is war dumbass no one ain't gonna wait for you to finish talking or give you a fair duel especially after you killed one of their members. Her death was sad R.I.P.

Mika being savage never gets old.
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Mar 13, 2016 1:41 PM
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I don't know, Mikazuki seems like such a one-dimensional character and half of the time it seems like he's not the main lead but a side character! He's just there to operate the Gundam he's not participating in any other activities..
Mar 13, 2016 1:42 PM

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Wow Carta stayed true to her ideals to the very end. Expecting a fair fight from Tekkadan after killing one of them was her last mistake though.

I keep asking this every week, but HOW are they gonna wrap this up in TWO episodes?
Mar 13, 2016 1:53 PM
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Man...I am really sad for Carta's death, cause I found her sillyness to be pretty endearing.

McGillis is such an asshole, holy shit. I am pretty sure he is using Carta's death as tool to destabilise his father's position.
And then when Gaelio dies and he marries Almiria, he has become the heir to the Bauduin family.

So, McGillis two "friends" might really be helping "reform" Gjallarhorn.
Mar 13, 2016 2:11 PM
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Wow, Mika just defeated three mobile suits by himself without even breaking a sweat. Riveting. What an interesting protagonist.
Sarcasm? What's that?

Also, all this talk of revenge can only mean one thing: they're going to learn about the endless cycle of revenge. And judging by how ruthless the series has been up until now, i can only assume that they are gonna have to learn the hard way (read: everybody's gonna fucking die).


Technically, he didn't defeat any suits, he slaughtered them. And they are pretty much grunts, with horrible pilots as proven in previous episodes.
Mar 13, 2016 2:12 PM
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so ein became a robot? setsuna from 00 would be pretty jealous if he saw that. it's also funny to see okada kinda reusing a plot point of her last series m3.

carta's death was really brutal, even barbatos was crying



At least Setsuna can walk around outside of the 00 Quanta, Ein is pretty much stuck in there I bet.
Mar 13, 2016 2:14 PM
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Psycho_Shin_Ken said:
I hope Carta is not really dead.

She barely did anything , save for killing Biscuit, and had so few screentime for a major antagonist, Ein probably will be more relevant to the plot than her, what a shame....


Well, we saw Ein since the first episode, so it makes sense if he has more screen time.
Besides, pretty sure Carta is dead, you could see her iris go dull, and all her McGuillis minions are dead, there's nothing left for her basically.
Mar 13, 2016 2:15 PM
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agrg25 said:
let's just say for any reason, could and would mika kill kudelia?


Sure, of course, it's not like he's after her tits or pussy.
Mar 13, 2016 2:18 PM
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Harotaros said:
For some reason, I started to not care or feel anything towards the Tekkadan crew a few episodes back. I felt sadder seeing Carta's death than when i saw Biscuits.

Gaelio (Ein in second) is probably my favorite character in this series since i felt more attached to him than i do with any of the Tekkadan crew. Earlier in the series, Akihiro had the brother thing going on which was nice, but since then he hasn't grown that much.


Somewhat agree, Mika is starting to give that Jesus Yamato feel.
Mar 13, 2016 2:26 PM
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eljay518 said:
Great episode! The way this show keeps throwing in your face how honorable the antagonists are make me like them so much lol. But then i rememeber how ghallarhorn has is corrupt ruling organization.

Mika is so god damn RUTHLESS!
I hear a lot of revenge talk on mikas part in this post and I kinda disagree. In that entire fight not once do you see him say "this is for biscuit!" b4 the deathblow or anything along those lines he actually even says something like "I gotta kill you kuz your in my way" which makes me believe mika is really just a sociopath on the low.
Last episode he wanted bodies to kill and hey guess what he got em!
He's starting to remind me less of heero yuy and more like dexter lol


lol, he's nothing like Heero or Setsuna. In the discussion from last episode, I stated that Mika makes the other two look like Disney princes in comparison, and I stand corrected.
Mar 13, 2016 2:27 PM
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Man...I am really sad for Carta's death, cause I found her sillyness to be pretty endearing.

McGillis is such an asshole, holy shit. I am pretty sure he is using Carta's death as tool to destabilise his father's position.
And then when Gaelio dies and he marries Almiria, he has become the heir to the Bauduin family.

So, McGillis two "friends" might really be helping "reform" Gjallarhorn.


It's a possibility and shows how McGuillis is similar with a MONSTER like his father.
Mar 13, 2016 2:41 PM
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HatsumiShinogu said:
While I like McGillis, wasn't he only fooling Carta? I bet he knew that she liked him and he used that to his advantage. I hate that he's trying to use Gaelio as well and I really hope that Gaelio doesn't end up killing him. That sure would be sad and tragic. Well, if Gaelio doesn't die, that is.


Come on, isn't that obvious? He's a Char clone for Christ sake, and a very good one at that. I think he is the second best Char clone, right after Rau Le Creuset.
Mar 13, 2016 2:44 PM
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Valkata said:
I really don't understand what is all that love for McGillis. Don't people see that he knew that Mika would crush her and kill her ? In fact if I remember his speach, he was saying about Carta and Gaelio "they WERE my friends", he is playing them both on his fingers. Mika is a beast, but he will never betray anyone from Tekkadan, unless they betray him.


That's what makes him so likable, he's a very good Char clone, just like Rau Le Creuset.
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That was cruel. Somehow I'm starting to root for Gjallarhorn, I don't know why.
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K-Anime said:
What a tense & brutal episode. I feel sorry for Carta. No mercy from Mika until he hears Carta calls out for McGillis. And Ein is now a Gundam and that might be problem for the rest of Tekkadan, especially for those piloting the mobile workers. Also, this episode our protagonists seem almost villainous.
Not me The bitch Got what she deserved she killed a friend what was Punished Mika supposed to do ? I say fuck that he did the right thing They should keeping with this mind set.
Mar 13, 2016 2:48 PM
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Spykr_Magio said:
This is all part of McGillis plans to get Carta dead.

What freaked me out that I didn't notice before was that all of Carta's minions were all hand picked to look like McGillis. Man she was obsessed with him.


Come on, I thought that was pretty obvious after seeing their first flashback.
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Ken_Chen said:
Harotaros said:
For some reason, I started to not care or feel anything towards the Tekkadan crew a few episodes back. I felt sadder seeing Carta's death than when i saw Biscuits.

Gaelio (Ein in second) is probably my favorite character in this series since i felt more attached to him than i do with any of the Tekkadan crew. Earlier in the series, Akihiro had the brother thing going on which was nice, but since then he hasn't grown that much.


Somewhat agree, Mika is starting to give that Jesus Yamato feel.
NOPE not even Kira is a guy who Never shuts up about war is Wrong Blah Blah Blah Mika on the other Has no time Bullshit and if anyone piss him off their dead its really that simple
Mar 13, 2016 2:52 PM
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I don't know, Mikazuki seems like such a one-dimensional character and half of the time it seems like he's not the main lead but a side character! He's just there to operate the Gundam he's not participating in any other activities..
Huh what ? pretty sure this episodes and the ones before it have made it very clear he is not one-dimensional I think your confusing that for Gundam seed Pls show me evidence of this he doesn't preach about how war is bad like the other Gundam MC ( minus Heero ) setsuna kinda did at the end of season 2 saying war is wrong
Mar 13, 2016 2:57 PM
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ZingFreelancer said:
Hypocritical anime, Tekkadan killed a whole bunch of people, a WHOLE BUNCH. Then Biscuit dies and they go mad with desire for vengeance?

Carta and her med recieved a valuable lesson in battlefield conduct. Too bad they didn't stick around to benefit from this knowledge.
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Mar 13, 2016 2:57 PM
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Wow Carta stayed true to her ideals to the very end. Expecting a fair fight from Tekkadan after killing one of them was her last mistake though.

I keep asking this every week, but HOW are they gonna wrap this up in TWO episodes?


They don't, especially after they revealed that there will be a season 2. Pretty sure this was a haste attempt at redemption after the horrible G no Reconguista.
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I laughed at 3d birds, they just look so cheap and fake.

Not a fan of the current development for Tekkadan kids, especially Ride and Takaki. I hope they'll snap out of it before more than half of the group is killed.

I feel sorry for Carta, she was underutilized as a character. McGillis seems less and less sympatethic. Gaelio is good so he'll probably die soon.

So, if the side materials say Carta's 17. that makes Chocolate Man and Gali-Gali like... 15? She looks older than them in the flashbacks.
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I laughed at 3d birds, they just look so cheap and fake.

Not a fan of the current development for Tekkadan kids, especially Ride and Takaki. I hope they'll snap out of it before more than half of the group is killed.

I feel sorry for Carta, she was underutilized as a character. McGillis seems less and less sympatethic. Gaelio is good so he'll probably die soon.

So, if the side materials say Carta's 17. that makes Chocolate Man and Gali-Gali like... 15? She looks older than them in the flashbacks.


Maybe she matured faster
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Reite said:
I laughed at 3d birds, they just look so cheap and fake.

Not a fan of the current development for Tekkadan kids, especially Ride and Takaki. I hope they'll snap out of it before more than half of the group is killed.

I feel sorry for Carta, she was underutilized as a character. McGillis seems less and less sympatethic. Gaelio is good so he'll probably die soon.

So, if the side materials say Carta's 17. that makes Chocolate Man and Gali-Gali like... 15? She looks older than them in the flashbacks.
I like where Tekkadan is going their Humans that are pissed off about what happen to one of their one, It would be very strange if they didn't get pissed off which is why I love IBO its kinda realistic in that sense .
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Carta got what she deserved in the end.
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Carta got what she deserved in the end.
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lord23 said:
I like where Tekkadan is going their Humans that are pissed off about what happen to one of their one, It would be very strange if they didn't get pissed off which is why I love IBO its kinda realistic in that sense .

It's not the first time one of their own got killed. Remember Shino's squad? They had a funeral, but no one swore revenge for them.
I know Biscuit is a main character for us viewers, but for Tekkadan, every member should be of the same emotional importance. And those guys just got ignored because they were extras...

But you're right, it is realistic, because they're behaving like children they are.
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Reite said:
lord23 said:
I like where Tekkadan is going their Humans that are pissed off about what happen to one of their one, It would be very strange if they didn't get pissed off which is why I love IBO its kinda realistic in that sense .

It's not the first time one of their own got killed. Remember Shino's squad? They had a funeral, but no one swore revenge for them.
I know Biscuit is a main character for us viewers, but for Tekkadan, every member should be of the same emotional importance. And those guys just got ignored because they were extras...

But you're right, it is realistic, because they're behaving like children they are.
I thought it was funeral for those other kids who are with that dude who looked like a pig and the who said Mika liked killing ?

Also even if those guys from a couple episodes ago died I'm pretty sure Biscuit was the last straw and they worn't gonna take it anymore its like a breaking point that why its realistic Because everyone at least has a braking point ( at least that what I like to believe ) I remember now they did die But the already took revenge on the guys who did it so whats the point ?
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If someone who didn't know this series watched this episode first, they'd take Tekkadan as the enemy and Mika as a psychopath, which isn't exactly off tbh. McGillis is a dick of an enemy btw. He's basically double crossing everyone to the point I don't even understand his end game. Good episode, though.
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Reite said:
lord23 said:
I like where Tekkadan is going their Humans that are pissed off about what happen to one of their one, It would be very strange if they didn't get pissed off which is why I love IBO its kinda realistic in that sense .

It's not the first time one of their own got killed. Remember Shino's squad? They had a funeral, but no one swore revenge for them.
I know Biscuit is a main character for us viewers, but for Tekkadan, every member should be of the same emotional importance. And those guys just got ignored because they were extras...

But you're right, it is realistic, because they're behaving like children they are.


You're right, it's not the first time. But it's not like they didn't feel anything from it. From my perspective, it seems as if the kids were just bottling up their anger and stress of the situation. Who wouldn't be ticked off, living a life as bad as theirs while forced to watch others prosper from it? (I find it astonishing that of how civil they were acting up till now.)

Biscuit's death just added to the fuel to the point where the bottle popped open, flooding the kids with nothing but negativity and anger. Orga could've prevented this, but he had a closer relationship with Biscuit than the rest so he was hit the most from this.

I personally admire Merribit's efforts in trying to tame them, but it's really futile as she herself has never truly experienced what they have. One cannot truly understand another if he/she hadn't experienced it firsthand as well.
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Watching at it twice, i have to say that i also don't know what McGillis is up to.

If Gaelio dies though, i will be sad. Ein also is a very respectable character.
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I personally admire Merribit's efforts in trying to tame them, but it's really futile as she herself has never truly experienced what they have. One cannot truly understand another if he/she hadn't experienced it firsthand as well.

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking as I watched Merribit trying to talk to the kids in this episode. Her words hold no weight because she didn't have a childhood like them. She can only sympathize with what they've gone through, but she doesn't really understand how that's shaped their way of thinking. It was sort of horrific to see the way Mika beating up the enemies while the children stood there and kept watching, but Merribit is going to have to accept the fact that these children have seen a lot of death and brutality already. After that, she can try thinking from their POV before trying to change their current mentality.

As for rooting for Gjallarhorn or Ein/Gaelio, idk. Unless they want to change Gjallarhorn or something, then maybe I'd root for them. Ein has a very narrow goal of seeking revenge (and what will he do after that?) while Gaelio does see the corruption in the organization, but seems goal-less otherwise (not saying I dislike Gaelio). Tekkadan might not be doing things in the best way, but they've always had that conviction to go home, to be able to live in a place they belong. I'd like to see them and Kudelia succeed.
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Reite said:
lord23 said:
I like where Tekkadan is going their Humans that are pissed off about what happen to one of their one, It would be very strange if they didn't get pissed off which is why I love IBO its kinda realistic in that sense .

It's not the first time one of their own got killed. Remember Shino's squad? They had a funeral, but no one swore revenge for them.
I know Biscuit is a main character for us viewers, but for Tekkadan, every member should be of the same emotional importance. And those guys just got ignored because they were extras...
but there was no one to exact revenge on for those guys, they had already killed everyone involved with those deaths, with biscuit however carta got away and that left them vengful.

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I don't particularly find anything in the anime to be hypocritical, the deaths of a lot of the kids earlier were involved where their killers were revenged and, in many cases, it occurred between more or less willing combatants. They were all armed and fighting, it was a kill or be killed situation, The difference it made for biscuit is most likely that he was a part of the leadership and perhaps the one person in the group (within Tekkadan itself) that wished for the least violent resolution, and with his death, he left behind his two younger sisters, which everyone in tekkadan have at least some knowledge of. Biscuit was killed whilst he and Orga were trying to run away from Madam Eyebrows, and so, that simply adds insult to injury.

No one in this anime is free of sin at all, perhaps except for biscuits sisters, everyone else has become involved in this bloodshed directly or indirectly and is somehow responsible. There's no moral high ground anymore, it's kill or be killed. The only reason that some of the members of the Gjallarhorn group is likeable is because they seem to be the good guys in a bad organization, but from the direction this is all heading, I doubt that will continue for long.

I somehow wonder if even Kudelia might end up killing someone intentionally, if only to save someone else as the first season nears it's climax. And speaking of that Gundam series that should not be named, I wonder if anyone was fired for that abysmal preformance of a show.
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Smudy said:
Watching at it twice, i have to say that i also don't know what McGillis is up to.

If Gaelio dies though, i will be sad. Ein also is a very respectable character.

Seems like it will be something similar to this.
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McGillis is such an asshole, holy shit. I am pretty sure he is using Carta's death as tool to destabilise his father's position.
And then when Gaelio dies and he marries Almiria, he has become the heir to the Bauduin family.

So, McGillis two "friends" might really be helping "reform" Gjallarhorn.

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McGillis is one ruthless mastermind. To back his "friends" into a corner in order to hatch his plan for an internal upheaval within Gjallarhorn. Reading the comments in here it feels like a lot of people have the wrong idea of Gjallarhorn. It's a corrupt organisation that McGillis is trying to clean out from the inside, and is using all his power and influence to do so, regardless of the cost of life of his men and his "friends". Rooting for Gjallarhorn is like rooting for the evil Empire. You'd be better off rooting for McGillis' revolution to be a success instead.

That said, I sympathize with Carta for being used by the man she loved. It was an honest display of honor on her part, yet you know that if McGillis had actually wanted to help her with her "last chance", then he would have sent out more units to help her. Instead, it was her little brother who showed up in the end to retrieve her battered, broken body.

Out of all of this, the ones I'd be rooting for would probably be Kudelia's cause and maybe the Teiwaz crew, because every other party in this show has a ton of blood on their hands.
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HatsumiShinogu said:
While I like McGillis, wasn't he only fooling Carta? I bet he knew that she liked him and he used that to his advantage. I hate that he's trying to use Gaelio as well and I really hope that Gaelio doesn't end up killing him. That sure would be sad and tragic. Well, if Gaelio doesn't die, that is.
Yeah, I think he is sacrificing his "friends" for his cause... But man, if that is the case and I think it is " The end justifies the means" he is as brutal as Mika in the everything that is standing in my way gotta go! approach...
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Wow, Mika just defeated three mobile suits by himself without even breaking a sweat. Riveting. What an interesting protagonist.
Sarcasm? What's that?

Also, all this talk of revenge can only mean one thing: they're going to learn about the endless cycle of revenge. And judging by how ruthless the series has been up until now, i can only assume that they are gonna have to learn the hard way (read: everybody's gonna fucking die).


I still hope this series doesn't go down the path of cheap forgiveness like most other Gundams though, since forgiveness is meaningless without atonement. Cycle of revenge is bad, but cheap forgiveness is worse IMO.


I'll be extremely disappointed if the series doesn't end with a complete bloodbath, with many named characters dying. It shows that revenge is bad and that the main characters' way of thinking is wrong, and doesn't completely change the entire tone of the series at the last moment in favor of 'UNDERSTANDING'.

Ken_Chen said:
GhostofSide6 said:
Wow, Mika just defeated three mobile suits by himself without even breaking a sweat. Riveting. What an interesting protagonist.
Sarcasm? What's that?

Also, all this talk of revenge can only mean one thing: they're going to learn about the endless cycle of revenge. And judging by how ruthless the series has been up until now, i can only assume that they are gonna have to learn the hard way (read: everybody's gonna fucking die).


Technically, he didn't defeat any suits, he slaughtered them. And they are pretty much grunts, with horrible pilots as proven in previous episodes.


Still killed and humiliated an important named character without even struggling. It's not really anything new though. Mika pretty much only struggled against an enemy in the one episode where the Barbatos wasn't properly tuned (and boy, did they remind us of that). Even against Chocoman, he wasn't outclassed, just on equal ground.
Still, at least there's quite a bit of interesting, well written characters to make up for the weak protagonist. Hell, they made the Peace Princess interesting. That's much more than i can say for Wing.
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So yeah. Anybody who was surprised mika wasted no time attacking, youre as ditzy as carta. I hope she really died she annoyed me. For Some reason the alaya eins been put into, i feel like it'll work like the zero system. And those kids with the mobile workers are going to be fodder. But ein will die soon. I cant really tell if the kids are thirsty for blood orrr justified. With that being said they kill in a mercilessly as well. Feel like most of them will die.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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