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Jan 26, 2016 11:54 AM
#1
Jan 26, 2016 12:34 PM
#3
Why even release it in the west? We clearly can't handle it. |
Jan 26, 2016 12:38 PM
#4
what is this petting minigame? you just touch and the characters respond? couldn't they change the dialogue or something..? edit: saw the petting on youtube. it doesn't seem to be such a big deal probably not a big part in the game, but i can see why people would be upset over this. |
DreamingBeatsJan 26, 2016 12:53 PM
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Jan 26, 2016 12:54 PM
#5
Rofl why I don't give a shit about this franchise and I don't have a particular weakness for petting mini games unless it involves pretty boys playing with each other's genitals but I see no reason to remove it |
Comic_SansJan 26, 2016 12:57 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Jan 26, 2016 12:55 PM
#6
Fuck the treehouse. |
Jan 26, 2016 1:23 PM
#7
I hope you enjoy your stay, here in Hell. Thankfully, there are no issues of censorship in the gaming industry. It's all "localization". Kek. Oh and, for anyone that wants a good site for gaming news. |
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Jan 26, 2016 1:57 PM
#8
*Sigh* Better start learning Japanese. I don't even give a shit about it. I just don't want things to be removed. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:00 PM
#9
Fire Emblem is a baby game for babies. Everyone in their pretend army must respect everyone's personal space bubble. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:03 PM
#10
Toasty_One said: Hack your o3DS/n3DS if it's version 10.3>.*Sigh* Better start learning Japanese. I don't even give a shit about it. I just don't want things to be removed. Pirate the game. Get the fan translation. Profit. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:05 PM
#11
Immahnoob said: Toasty_One said: Hack your o3DS/n3DS if it's version 10.3>.*Sigh* Better start learning Japanese. I don't even give a shit about it. I just don't want things to be removed. Pirate the game. Get the fan translation. Profit. Nah, nah can't do that. Fan translation isn't the official translation. Can't handle that. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:08 PM
#12
Toasty_One said: The fan translation is accurate unlike the NoA bullshit. NoA will fucking butcher this game. Immahnoob said: Toasty_One said: *Sigh* Better start learning Japanese. I don't even give a shit about it. I just don't want things to be removed. Pirate the game. Get the fan translation. Profit. Nah, nah can't do that. Fan translation isn't the official translation. Can't handle that. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:11 PM
#13
It'll be just Teletubbies by the time it comes out. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:19 PM
#14
Failure Emblem: Fucked Over Don't support this result of NoA's corporate tyranny and the Pokemonization of this title. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:25 PM
#15
If anyone needs help with n3DS/o3DS hacking and all that, you can PM me. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:26 PM
#16
Immahnoob said: If anyone needs help with n3DS/o3DS hacking and all that, you can PM me. Yeah, fuck NoA with 70 ft Saguaro cactus. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:28 PM
#17
So they are removing the bad things? It doesn't take away the fact that the original game had that otaku pandering shit though. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:28 PM
#18
Preorder canceled. Even Pokemon could handle petting. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:34 PM
#19
I 100% saw this coming, no idea why people were surprised I knew that tons of features would get removed or rewarked when they made the US release date that much further in this modern age. Plus that stuff with you giving someone a straight potion is definitely also removed, US version probably lets everyone be bi so SJWs will shut the fuck up. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:38 PM
#20
Jerkhov said: Actually, the whole "straight potion" and "gay conversion" bullshit is false. The original never had such a thing.I 100% saw this coming, no idea why people were surprised I knew that tons of features would get removed when they made the US release date that much further in this modern age. Plus that stuff with you giving someone a straight potion is definitely also removed, US version probably lets everyone be bi so SJWs will shut the fuck up. The MC did indeed give her the powder without her knowing, but as usual, I make the greatest of arguments, so here you go: It has spoilers. Immahnoob said: I believe it's odd that people are against the Soleil conversation, to be honest. It's not a "gay conversion", Soleil is not homosexual since she cannot marry any female in-game anyway, even if she were, the conversation does not imply anything of the sorts. She's simply her father's child mostly, and a Japanese trope AKA schoolgirl "lesbianism". You'd be right in saying Kamui slipped her the powder without knowing, but you're forgetting first and foremost, what are the main gripes with something like that happening IRL (since everyone's arguing that mostly):
In our case, what are the consequences of slipping Soleil a drug that changes male to female and female to male? Well, none. The drug isn't permanent, (Note, talking about a situation in which she does not know that she was drugged) she'll simply have "weak knees" for "cute" girls that are actually "buff" men for a short period of time. Let's take intent, from the conversation, Kamui is trying to help Soleil, and immediately tells her that he drugged her (actually, this is stupid in itself, a therapy in which she doesn't know would work better). Soleil has no issue with this, because she knows this is important to her AND Kamui, since it influences her fighting capabilities. So his intent is to do GOOD. There's also another point to bring up here, which I'll bring up later. The issue with arguing this from a real life point of view is that the drug, unlike most drugs, does not have any side effects. Soleil doesn't seem to suffer in any way, except that now she sees sexes as the reverse, and she's also aware of it because Kamui never had any intention of harming her. Her mental capacity is normal under the drug too, unlike most drugs, again. So what would the best analogy be for this? Well, if say, Kamui's intent was not "good" but "bad", at most, this would be a childish joke, since the "consequences" of his actions will most likely not harm her in any way. Since there's nothing in real life that can change perception to this degree (accurately and specifically) without any side effects either, I can't give an exact analogy, so I'll make an analogy based on the degree of annoyance and situation. It would be like slipping someone lots of salt in their drink without them knowing. What you yell after you do that is up to you, just don't go for "It's just a prank, bro.". Immahnoob said: If we're going to argue affirmative consent for everything. We'd have to all be guilty of something right now (do note that my argument isn't based on the law, but even then). The law. TheLaw said: (4) A person does not commit an offence against this section if the person has reasonable cause to believe that each person who was likely to consume the drink or food would not have objected to consuming the drink or food if the person had been aware of the presence and quantity of the intoxicating substance in the drink or food. Basically, knowing Soleil's reaction AFTER she was drugged and how her personality and behavior with Kamui is in general, I doubt you could have a case that Soleil wouldn't have accepted the "drugged" drink. Besides, Soleil doesn't see herself as a victim anyway. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:44 PM
#21
In a series plagued with murder, poisoning, genocide, rape, and incest, I can hardly believe that what ultimately gets cut is face rubbing. |
Jan 26, 2016 2:46 PM
#22
Thrashinuva said: Oh, don't worry, they'll find a way to ALTER IT.In a series plagued with murder, poisoning, genocide, rape, and incest, I can hardly believe that what ultimately gets cut is face rubbing. Hah, offensive material in my game? Not on Amerintendont's watch. |
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Jan 26, 2016 2:51 PM
#23
It shouldn't have been in a Fire Emblem game in the first place. Though, the least they could do is lower the price of the game since it contains less content than the Japanese version now to make up for it. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:21 PM
#24
That's the dumbest thing to remove from a game. It's so innocent. It's like if Nintendo removed Pokemon-Amie from X & Y cause why the fuck not. What is wrong with you, Nintendo? Is this Reggie's fault? I've noticed a distinct lack of common sense when it comes to NOA. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:27 PM
#25
lucjan said: That's the dumbest thing to remove from a game. It's so innocent. It's like if Nintendo removed Pokemon-Amie from X & Y cause why the fuck not. What is wrong with you, Nintendo? Your pokemon don't moan and blush when you pet them, sure they close their eyes but they don't look that turned on. Though I'll admit pokemon amie is pretty sexual with the more humanoid pokemon like Lopunny. It's definitely not innocent though, it's obviously to appeal to its majority otaku fans. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:31 PM
#26
There's still no excuse for them to remove this. |
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Jan 26, 2016 3:31 PM
#27
Jerkhov said: lucjan said: That's the dumbest thing to remove from a game. It's so innocent. It's like if Nintendo removed Pokemon-Amie from X & Y cause why the fuck not. What is wrong with you, Nintendo? Your pokemon don't moan and blush when you pet them, sure they close their eyes but they don't look that turned on. Though I'll admit pokemon amie is pretty sexual with the more humanoid pokemon like Lopunny. It's definitely not innocent though, it's obviously to appeal to its majority otaku fans. Blushing is sexual? Really? |
Jan 26, 2016 3:33 PM
#28
Milennin said: It shouldn't have been in a Fire Emblem game in the first place. Doesn't matter. Censorship isn't okay just because it's "better that way", as some people are surely going to use as an excuse. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:35 PM
#29
Jerkhov said: lucjan said: That's the dumbest thing to remove from a game. It's so innocent. It's like if Nintendo removed Pokemon-Amie from X & Y cause why the fuck not. What is wrong with you, Nintendo? Your pokemon don't moan and blush when you pet them, sure they close their eyes but they don't look that turned on. Though I'll admit pokemon amie is pretty sexual with the more humanoid pokemon like Lopunny. It's definitely not innocent though, it's obviously to appeal to its majority otaku fans. I don't recall reading about petting involving the girl spreading her ass cheeks while you pet her. The moaning can obviously be handled interpretatively. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:37 PM
#30
Immahnoob said: There's still no excuse for them to remove this. I'm not arguing for the removal, I'm just saying that you can't say something like that is solely innocent. |
Jan 26, 2016 3:38 PM
#31
If it's such a problem then don't put it in the game to begin with. Are the Japanese really that much more mature than we are that they are capable of handling that feature and we can't? |
Jan 26, 2016 3:53 PM
#32
Thrashinuva said: Please, Japan also has sucky censorship going on. Their customers are also against it usually.If it's such a problem then don't put it in the game to begin with. Are the Japanese really that much more mature than we are that they are capable of handling that feature and we can't? |
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Jan 26, 2016 5:07 PM
#34
Here we go again, people caring about what people may or may not be turned on by. Did I mention that this feature isn't even mandatory, alongside the pairing system as a whole? |
Jan 26, 2016 5:26 PM
#35
This. Xenoblade Chronicles. Fatal Frame. When will it end? Why can't they just translate the dialogue/text and deliver the product? |
Jan 26, 2016 5:54 PM
#36
Nintendo being hyper-sensitive shits again. You know, SEGA shipped Project Diva F's English localization with petting mechanics completely intact, and I struggle to find even one review that bitches about it being in there whenever I look it up on Amazon. When is Nintendo going to realize that the kind of western demographics that are interested in these types of games are already well acquainted with Japanese culture? And for those that aren't, these kinds of features serve as an amusing distraction at worst. Not that I consider it a huge loss again anyway (I don't even play Fire Emblem), but it still continually speaks to Nintendo's unbearable cautiousness to the point of irritation. Everything has to be a carefully scrutinized calculation, pre-approved by a committee of maximally uptight prudes to ensure that even Grumpy Cat can find no fault with it. Nintendo could actually take some pointers from SEGA for once. |
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Jan 26, 2016 6:11 PM
#37
Not surprise for me. My plan of purchasing this game was tinkered even before this news and now might be the dagger. |
Jan 26, 2016 9:11 PM
#39
I'm starting to consider just quitting buying Nintendo games altogether instead of just not buying their censored titles. Ooh, and it would appear 3DS emulation is making great progress.... |
Jan 26, 2016 9:11 PM
#40
Jerkhov said: Immahnoob said: There's still no excuse for them to remove this. I'm not arguing for the removal, I'm just saying that you can't say something like that is solely innocent. Why should it be innocent? Are you a soccer mom or a bible nut by chance? |
Jan 26, 2016 10:10 PM
#41
Narmy said: Milennin said: It shouldn't have been in a Fire Emblem game in the first place. Doesn't matter. Censorship isn't okay just because it's "better that way", as some people are surely going to use as an excuse. I didn't say it was okay. I'd never support censorship even if I don't agree with the stuff it censors. I was already on the fence about buying this game, but now that it's getting censorship-butchered I have even less reason to get this. |
Jan 27, 2016 5:16 AM
#42
More censorship? I went and watched this mini game on YouTube as well. It isn't graphic, or suggestive in any way really. Even if it was, I'd still be against censorship. Put the proper rating on the box if they feel its so bad and release it. I would almost start my argument of how sexuality is still way too taboo here in the West, but this is just too simple and harmless, I can't even begin. |
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Jan 27, 2016 5:46 AM
#43
Always with the ruining of games for western releases. Hacking consoles is the way forward, forget paying for western releases. |
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Jan 27, 2016 5:54 AM
#44
As I said, anyone needs help with hacking the 3DS, I'm right here. |
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Jan 27, 2016 6:40 AM
#45
Awwww! I thought it was pretty cute. I wanted to pet Selena! |
VarunaBlesJan 27, 2016 6:47 AM
Jan 27, 2016 7:08 AM
#46
Dunno how much will it help, or affect Nintendo's decision, but there's this dude that started a petition against the censoring of the game, and gathered quite a few signs. https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-do-not-censor-fire-emblem-fates-for-it-s-worldwide-release |
Jan 27, 2016 7:18 AM
#47
Shirou- said: That's too old to matter.Dunno how much will it help, or affect Nintendo's decision, but there's this dude that started a petition against the censoring of the game, and gathered quite a few signs. https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-do-not-censor-fire-emblem-fates-for-it-s-worldwide-release |
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Jan 27, 2016 12:35 PM
#48
I see no problem with gross and obscene otaku-catering "features" being removed. Buying this first day I can. |
Jan 27, 2016 12:49 PM
#49
Fai said: I see no problem with gross and obscene otaku-catering "features" being removed. Buying this first day I can. >"but have you even seen the petting..?" >nope, why? it's literally just a girl on screen blushing. unless you think that's "obscene" and needed to be removed. |
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Jan 27, 2016 1:31 PM
#50
Fai said: I see no problem with gross and obscene otaku-catering "features" being removed. Buying this first day I can. >gross There's that word again. DreamingBeats said: it's literally just a girl on screen blushing. Or a guy. You can pet both sexes, isn't that progressive? |
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