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The survey included more than 2,200 people in the United States and was conducted by the National Science Foundation.

Ten questions about physical and biological science were on the quiz, and the average score—6.5 correct—was barely a passing grade.

Just 74 percent of respondents knew that the Earth revolved around the Sun, according to the results released at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Chicago.

Fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals.

The result of the survey, which is conducted every two years, will be included in a National Science Foundation report to President Barack Obama and US lawmakers.

One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government.

Nearly 90 percent said the benefits of science outweigh any dangers, and about the same number expressed interest in learning about medical discoveries.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-02-americans-unaware-earth-circles-sun.html#jCp
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One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government.

Nearly 90 percent said the benefits of science outweigh any dangers,
What does this have to do with science and its funding?
It's about education. Building particle colliders won't teach Americans that the Earth is round.
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That is messed up. The U.S is one of the most technological and advanced nations in the world, and yet a portion of its population seem to be so... backwards. Stop that.

Kinda relevant
Feb 14, 2014 3:28 PM
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blame religions.
Feb 14, 2014 3:46 PM
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They should take it a step further and ask people if the Earth is round or flat.

Also, pretty sure a lot of those 1-in-4s are just trolling.
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So should i be surprised that my country is retarded...
im not really surprised seeing that teens are more interested in clothes and sneakers rather than school
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j0x said:
The survey included more than 2,200 people in the United States and was conducted by the National Science Foundation.

Ten questions about physical and biological science were on the quiz, and the average score—6.5 correct—was barely a passing grade.

Just 74 percent of respondents knew that the Earth revolved around the Sun, according to the results released at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Chicago.

Fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals.

The result of the survey, which is conducted every two years, will be included in a National Science Foundation report to President Barack Obama and US lawmakers.

One in three respondents said science should get more funding from the government.

Nearly 90 percent said the benefits of science outweigh any dangers, and about the same number expressed interest in learning about medical discoveries.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2014-02-americans-unaware-earth-circles-sun.html#jCp


Wait, you're saying the Earth circles the SUN?!

Since when?
Feb 14, 2014 4:11 PM
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All planets in the milky way revolve around the Sun, Earth included, learn Science America.


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Fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals.


Obviously this is a lie. It should be common knowledge that God made humans from clay 11000 years ago. Americans need to study the bible more.
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I would call shenanigans/another excuse for Europeans to talk shit about us, but we do have people who don't know who Adolf Hitler is...

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Feb 14, 2014 4:26 PM

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Did they just grab randoms from the bible belt? I'd imagine the numbers will be quite different otherwise.
Feb 14, 2014 4:29 PM

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I'm pretty sure I learned the basics of astronomy in Elementary School. Who did they ask these questions?
Feb 14, 2014 4:39 PM

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All planets in the milky way revolve around the Sun, Earth included, learn Science America.

...
Feb 14, 2014 4:54 PM

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Heard this on the radio today while I was driving. Makes me wonder who the hell they do these surveys on. Anyone that goes through even elementary school learns the basics about astronomy including order of the planets and such.
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I wanted to post this article - but - I'd rather not just go ahead and post every news article that I see - etc.

But yea.

I wanted to slap my face. Instead, I did the mental facepalm. Really America? C'mon, I know that people are stupid - but THIS stupid?! Holy crap, this is 2nd grade material.
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Just who did they survey? I highly doubt that number is representative of the entire country, or at least I hope not because that would mean there are around 80 million people who haven't passed elementary school here.
Feb 14, 2014 5:10 PM
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Come onnn guys, we all know the Sun revolves around the Earth.
Feb 14, 2014 5:34 PM

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Hoppy said:
All planets in the milky way revolve around the Sun, Earth included, learn Science America.

...

...still waiting.
Feb 14, 2014 5:46 PM

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Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.
Feb 14, 2014 7:54 PM

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Now tell me how many still think the Earth is flat?
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Feb 14, 2014 7:56 PM

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Now tell me how many still think the Earth is flat?
Don't be silly, the world is cubed.
Feb 14, 2014 8:27 PM

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j0x said:
Just 74 percent of respondents knew that the Earth revolved around the Sun, according to the results released at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Chicago.

I'm calling crap on this one. What, were 25% of the surveyees kids under the age of four or something? Or maybe they just used intentionally misleading language to see if they could drum up some controversy. I find it extremely difficult to believe this particular statistic.

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Fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals.

This I can understand. Interesting the wording of this phrase; the way it is presented, one would think that the evolution of human beings is fact. It is not, not by a long shot. Evolution is a theory, but the history of that theory shows all too well that if you assert something over and over again adamantly enough people will start to accept it as fact.

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Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

There is a huge difference between scientific fact and consensus classification. I was taught in school that it was a planet; Pluto's status was downgraded when we found out there are a bunch of significantly sized rocks out there.
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I like how I've gone from one thread about how voting should be more geared towards rich people in the USA, to a thread where a great chunk of Americans are shown to be idiots.
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High five for the Ptolemaic system. Gone but not forgotten.
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Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

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Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
Feb 14, 2014 9:38 PM

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So 2,200 people were surveyed and that proves that 1 in 4 people in a nation of 300 million don't know that the Earth revolves around the Sun?

Bullshit.
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So 2,200 people were surveyed and that proves that 1 in 4 people in a nation of 300 million don't know that the Earth revolves around the Sun?

Bullshit.
Sample sizing and surveys go hand-in-hand. That's how we get every statistic in the modern day.
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Reverb_Shock said:
So 2,200 people were surveyed and that proves that 1 in 4 people in a nation of 300 million don't know that the Earth revolves around the Sun?

Bullshit.
Sample sizing and surveys go hand-in-hand. That's how we get every statistic in the modern day.
A sample size of 2,200 is way too small imo. It also depends where they did the survey, the education of the people they interviewed, what jobs they had.

I'm just saying this in no way proves that America is stupid. There are much better surveys that prove that lol
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Heredity said:
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So 2,200 people were surveyed and that proves that 1 in 4 people in a nation of 300 million don't know that the Earth revolves around the Sun?

Bullshit.
Sample sizing and surveys go hand-in-hand. That's how we get every statistic in the modern day.
A sample size of 2,200 is way too small imo. It also depends where they did the survey, the education of the people they interviewed, what jobs they had.

I'm just saying this in no way proves that America is stupid. There are much better surveys that prove that lol
Where are those surveys, and what were their sample sizes? You just sound angry that a survey has stated 1/4 Americans to be stupid.
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Reverb_Shock said:
Heredity said:
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So 2,200 people were surveyed and that proves that 1 in 4 people in a nation of 300 million don't know that the Earth revolves around the Sun?

Bullshit.
Sample sizing and surveys go hand-in-hand. That's how we get every statistic in the modern day.
A sample size of 2,200 is way too small imo. It also depends where they did the survey, the education of the people they interviewed, what jobs they had.

I'm just saying this in no way proves that America is stupid. There are much better surveys that prove that lol
Where are those surveys, and what were their sample sizes? You just sound angry that a survey has stated 1/4 Americans to be stupid.
I was just kidding about the better surveys. I was just trying to say that Americans are probably mostly stupid, but this survey doesn't prove it.
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1/4 have got to be joking. I doubt that many Americans are stupid. I can believe that only 48% knew that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals because of religion, though.

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Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
rip planet pluto. Never even got to do 1 orbit around the sun while being a planet
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JonyJC said:
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Hoppy said:
All planets in the solar system revolve around the Sun, Earth included, learn Science America.

...

...still waiting.


fixed.

The fact that even 572 people think like this (One in four Americans unaware that Earth circles Sun) makes me sad as an American. I'd love to believe this is statistical anomaly or selection bias (a bigger sample size would help), but there probably is a large number of people who think this way. Crappy poll with bad funding to produce sensational results designed to stir people to action, but probably creating more skeptics of science, or people who ignore it when it does not produce favorably biased results.

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High five for the Ptolemaic system. Gone but not forgotten.


How many of those 572 people (or 1 in 4 Americans) know what an epicycle is?
Hint: not an epic cycle to ride on.
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I was just kidding about the better surveys. I was just trying to say that Americans are probably mostly stupid, but this survey doesn't prove it.
It does a better job at it than no survey at all, baybee.


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animeoppai said:
Ckan said:
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Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
rip planet pluto. Never even got to do 1 orbit around the sun while being a planet


So what was Pluto doing before 1930?
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^ Not being discovered. I'm saying it hasn't done one full orbit since it's discovery, not before.


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^ As far as I know, discovery is not a condition of whether or not an object is a planet or not, in both the old definition and the new. It is still the same object regardless of discovery, naming, and classification. Just because we do not know about something does not mean we cannot refer to it before and after its discovery. The case of Pluto is rare also because we looked for it even before it was discovered, known as the search for Planet X. When Pluto was still being worshipped as god of the Underworld, the now dwarf planet, though unknown, was still orbiting the sun. Regardless of when in time, it shall be known as a dwarf planet as long it remains meeting the conditions in the definition.


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I did hear Pluto was not classified as a planet anymore, however, I don't actually remember if Pluto is still there orbiting in our solar system? This information is not exactly relevant whatsoever to most people though. There's a significance of knowing we orbit around the Sun, since it explains a lot of stuff like the change of seasons. There isn't however, much significance to know if Pluto is or isn't classified as a planet anymore.

As for the validity of the data, we frankly cannot judge it unless we read the paper on it. I am inclined to believe that Americans are limited in this type of knowledge, especially if they were interviewed around the Bible Belt zones in USA.
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Do people really believe this "survey." What a load of horse shit. The article makes no mention about how the survey was conducted, who they surveyed, what the sampling error was, what kind of sample they surveyed, not even what the actual survey question was. They only give a single vague statistic and automatically claim it representative of all of america. It very easy to misconstrue information or alter a question to serve an different purpose. In politics they conduct polls all the time to sway public opinion. They don't even have to publish the results. Just ask a question that will get the public to think negatively about the opposing candidate. Here, the purpose of the survey is very clear. They want money. The information provided does nothing to explain why americans might be less educated, nor does it provide any type of solution. It can however be used to convince the higher ups that "Hey Americans suck at science but they want more science, give us money," A claim that, again, is complete horse shit.
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Do people really believe this "survey." What a load of horse shit. The article makes no mention about how the survey was conducted, who they surveyed, what the sampling error was, what kind of sample they surveyed, not even what the actual survey question was. They only give a single vague statistic and automatically claim it representative of all of america. It very easy to misconstrue information or alter a question to serve an different purpose. In politics they conduct polls all the time to sway public opinion. They don't even have to publish the results. Just ask a question that will get the public to think negatively about the opposing candidate. Here, the purpose of the survey is very clear. They want money. The information provided does nothing to explain why americans might be less educated, nor does it provide any type of solution. It can however be used to convince the higher ups that "Hey Americans suck at science but they want more science, give us money," A claim that, again, is complete horse shit.


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That is messed up. The U.S is one of the most technological and advanced nations in the world, and yet a portion of its population seem to be so... backwards. Stop that.

Kinda relevant
you make a good point it is odd
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Seravander said:
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Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
rip planet pluto. Never even got to do 1 orbit around the sun while being a planet


So what was Pluto doing before 1930?

Pluto was guarding the space time door on the outer ring, and one day when earth needs help, she and her two other comrades will revive Saturn to save the universe.
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azzuRe said:
Seravander said:
animeoppai said:
Ckan said:
StonerWithABoner said:
Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
rip planet pluto. Never even got to do 1 orbit around the sun while being a planet


So what was Pluto doing before 1930?

Pluto was guarding the space time door on the outer ring, and one day when earth needs help, she and her two other comrades will revive Saturn to save the universe.
BUT WHAT ABOUT JUPITER?! Jupiter is always important.
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Ckan said:
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Seravander said:
animeoppai said:
Ckan said:
StonerWithABoner said:
Valaskjalf said:
Now tell me how many still think Pluto is a planet.

Never forget...
Pluto will always remain in planetary orbit around our hearts.
rip planet pluto. Never even got to do 1 orbit around the sun while being a planet


So what was Pluto doing before 1930?

Pluto was guarding the space time door on the outer ring, and one day when earth needs help, she and her two other comrades will revive Saturn to save the universe.
BUT WHAT ABOUT JUPITER?! Jupiter is always important.

She was too electric and dazzling, so they kicked her out from the outer group.
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Document said:
Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth? (Earth around Sun) ..........................
United States (2012): 74
China (2010): NA
EU (2005): 66
India (2004): 70
Japan (2011): NA
Malaysia (2008): 72
Russia (2003): NA
South Korea (2004): 86
I honestly don't know what to think of the data it has. It references another document in its notes with quite different results:

...Two additional
questions used a multiple choice format. These asked about
(21) whether the sun moves around the Earth, whether the
Earth moves around the sun (correct), or neither the sun nor
the Earth moves (Europe correct: 80%, United States correct:
82%);...

In general that document isn't very reassuring.
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ahhh i thought the world was flat

mind blown

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So should i be surprised that my country is retarded...
im not really surprised seeing that teens are more interested in sex and relationships rather than school


^Fixed that for you.

Also I can speak from experience that a majority of American youth is ignorant and if not stupid. I was always praised for good grades and shit yet I didn't even study other than in science or when we read an actually interesting book in Lit. Schools are cesspits from what I've seen/been through.
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Document said:
Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth? (Earth around Sun) ..........................
United States (2012): 74
China (2010): NA
EU (2005): 66
India (2004): 70
Japan (2011): NA
Malaysia (2008): 72
Russia (2003): NA
South Korea (2004): 86
I honestly don't know what to think of the data it has. It references another document in its notes with quite different results:

...Two additional
questions used a multiple choice format. These asked about
(21) whether the sun moves around the Earth, whether the
Earth moves around the sun (correct), or neither the sun nor
the Earth moves (Europe correct: 80%, United States correct:
82%);...

In general that document isn't very reassuring.


The figures would make sense if you had read the title of that section of the document: Correct answers to factual knowledge questions in physical and biological sciences, by country/region:
Most recent year (Percent giving correct answer)


I'm not even sure if you're grabbing a quote for those second figure from the same year - the cited document only uses the most recent year for those percentage figures. Were you citing this? Because the percentages are quite close. Just CRTL+F 'EARTHSUN'
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