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Dec 3, 2007 6:39 AM
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Looks like we didn't need to wait for episode 08 after all.

I'm curious if there's going to be someone to stand up against the one who killed Suzunosuke and the others who tried to avenge him. The eyeball eating scene was a highlight.

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Dec 3, 2007 11:40 AM
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Good episode. Bulgey-eye guy (forget his name) pulling teeth out of his hand and eating the eyeball was just awesome. I wonder how they're going to counter the murderer's style too.
Dec 3, 2007 11:52 AM
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cyruz said:
I'm curious if there's going to be someone to stand up against the one who killed Suzunosuke and the others who tried to avenge him.


I wonder if that's how Fujiki loses his arm.

Dying to find out who the murderer is...they're dropping like flies.
Dec 3, 2007 1:35 PM
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:S few very sick moments in this ep
btw i think the murderer is Irako Seigen or maybe 1 of the Kogan women
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or maybe 1 of the Kogan women


That'd be a wish-come-true as I said in episode 6's discussion.

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Dec 3, 2007 4:15 PM
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hmm? Isn't Irako Seigen the murderer?


this was my expression the whole show
Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM
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I don't think it's a woman because there are times when his robes gape open a bit and it's a manly-looking chest, not breasts.

But Irako isn't unlikely, given the hair covering the eyes and his blindness.
Dec 4, 2007 6:23 AM
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Didn't Seigen use the vertical sword posture in the opening episode (can't remember too well). So the vertical cuts would make sense.


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The kogan daughter(called Mie!?) is bothering me.
In the first ep she kind of loved Fujiki and hated Irako, but now it's like she is shocked about the punishment of Irako and misses him.

@ Omega Judgement: You might be right ^^
Also Mie foresaw in the first ep that Fujiki will be cut vertically :/
Jan 6, 2008 6:23 AM

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Dima said:
The kogan daughter(called Mie!?) is bothering me.
In the first ep she kind of loved Fujiki and hated Irako, but now it's like she is shocked about the punishment of Irako and misses him.

@ Omega Judgement: You might be right ^^
Also Mie foresaw in the first ep that Fujiki will be cut vertically :/


i think actually Mie loves Irako. in the first ep she lied to Fujiki because she wants Fujiki dead as he is the last person of her father's dogs, only then her revenge over the whole Kogan ryu clan is going to be completed...
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This was my reaction when the dude slid the door open in the beginning:

"It's a fish, right? IT'S A FISH, RIGHT? FISH!? TELL ME THATS A FISH!!!"

And yeah, with Mie acting weird, now that we're leading up to the end I'm not confident of Fujiki's chances of surviving this show. :|
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The reason why Mie was acting weird is because of Irako's permanent banishment from the dojo.

She knows that she won't probably won't see him again....and she's going crazy.

It was explained in the manga.
Sep 6, 2008 11:51 AM

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These people should not be allowed to have dogs.
Dec 3, 2008 1:31 PM

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A lot of unlucky jaws in this series. I want to see how Fujiki fares against the murderer.
Mar 23, 2009 1:24 PM

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When suzu was killed I thought maybe it was Mie who killed him but as the episode went on and I saw Iraku standing on the bridge, everything became clear. I can't wait for Iraku/ Fujiki fight.


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Iam just wondering why they try to face the "murderer"(well everyone know where he is) from the front? Its like running in a chainsaw while smiling, maybe its just too much pride...
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Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!
Nov 24, 2009 12:51 AM
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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!


I wonder that as well ,or was it a handy to the to his erotic thoughts of the young boy?
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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!


So if you were ever wondering - this is how men from dojo eased their desires ;)
Feb 27, 2010 11:17 PM

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I love the way they keep using the cicada as a symbol for Seigen.

This show is so fucking good.

kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!

Haha, it was impossible to miss.
May 6, 2010 11:08 PM

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Glorious storytelling. A beautiful anime in just about every way I can think of. Bloody, yes, but it doesn't feel gratuitous. The pace of the telling, the muted colors, and the sense of quiet play a huge part in balancing out the violence; not to mention those all-too-frequent glimpses into the darkest parts of the human psyche. Don't get me wrong...every sight and sound is in the perfect place at the perfect time. No part of Shigurui is gratuitous.

I'm only 8 episodes into the series, which is why I'm "discussing" rather than "reviewing," and I will admit to taking a break after every 4th episode to watch a couple Fruits Baskets. I know, talk about polar opposites! Although not in any way frantic, the intensity is almost a character in and of itself!

I don't know if it's because I don't have to wait a week between each episode, but this series shares a certain quality found in the best of film. It's a masterpiece, pure and simple.
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Beyond amazing.

kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!

I was wondering if I had overdosed on BL or something; glad to know I wasn't just seeing things.
Aug 6, 2010 11:22 PM

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pretty good ep

Asako is gay tho
Sep 5, 2010 2:26 AM

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ashura said:
i think actually Mie loves Irako. in the first ep she lied to Fujiki because she wants Fujiki dead as he is the last person of her father's dogs, only then her revenge over the whole Kogan ryu clan is going to be completed...

Oh god, this makes so much sense! I was wondering what the fuck was going on in the first ep, I mean clearly she "sees" Fujiki getting his head chopped open up the middle and yet she said that she saw him win. That really confused me. If she was really trying to get him killed them that'd make everything click. And when she was saying "He's a monster" she was probably referring to Fujiki, too.

kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!

Good, I thought I was imagining things. This show is fucking insane.
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MajorAddiction said:

this was my expression the whole show


Mine too hahaha. I'm pretty convinced that Irako is the murderer, but this show is so unpredictable.
Feb 5, 2011 9:03 PM
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Pretty sure Iruko is the killer since he uses what looks like the same stance Iruko had in the first episode. I always knew the wide eyed guy was crazy, but eating a mans eye that's like a whole new level of crazy.
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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!
MajorAddiction said:
hmm? Isn't Irako Seigen the murderer?


this was my expression the whole show
All kinds of disturbances to me!
Jul 16, 2011 7:18 PM

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So Irako is the murderer. Makes sense, and I figured it was him as soon as they said it wasn't Kogan and wasn't anyone from the dojo.

So, NOW I'm pissed off at Irako. My distant, distant second favorite character kills my first favorite character...
And for no reason, he wasn't even a member when Irako was exiled. :(

The other two killings were pretty justified though, and anyone else he kills from the dojo is too.

Just not Suzu. :(


And I guess that explains why bug-eyed guy was so much more upset over Suzu's death than the rest, guess he had a thing for him.


Still need to see how Irako gets crippled, and how Fujiki loses his arm. Guessing it'll happen in a fight between the two of them.
Jan 6, 2012 11:20 AM

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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!


Thats what I was thinking.. But everyone here cant seem to get their mind off the eyeball eating seance..
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at least that guy had one last fap before he died.... though I can't say I approve of his method

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May 3, 2013 6:48 AM

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As weird as ever..
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Just when I think the show cannot find new ways to shock and awe me, we have eyeball eating and autofellatio. Wow.

It's great slowburn storytelling though. It's a straight, classic revenge story but with character that make sadism and masochism sound like fairy tale words.
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Jan 19, 2014 1:43 PM

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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!
yah i really cant tell if he sucked his own dick or not, he even kind of wipes his mouth afterwords

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Feb 28, 2014 9:25 AM

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kalaris said:
Am i the only one who saw the autofellatio scene in this episode?!!!


Thank god! For a while I though I was a super pervert!
Best scene so far...mwahahahaha
Mar 24, 2014 4:26 AM

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Ugh...this episode was just plain weird and nasty. Such a strange show.
Jul 17, 2014 11:00 AM

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That eye eating and all that killing was really disturbing... shit son this is getting really epic :p
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I'm speecless,the show is brilliant,I'm giving it a 10!
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"alright men, we have no clue who killed this woman. So lets blame someone whos skilled but is completely unrelated to the matter and kill him so we dont look weak. in the meantime well find the real killer." ~fucking genius judicial system
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I didn't know that big eyed guy was such a savage
Wrecking all those guys and then eating his eyeball.
Dec 25, 2015 10:09 PM

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I didn't know that big eyed guy was such a savage
Wrecking all those guys and then eating his eyeball.

Also, that One Handed Swordsman at the beginning got wrecked pretty neatly, so Irako, or whoever the murderer is, sure has balls (or not) to fuck around with the Kogan Style
Jan 10, 2017 9:40 PM

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Fish don't bleed like that lol.

The killer is Irako Seigen, the guy they blinded and threw out. I wonder how long it'll take them to realize that.

Wait wait wait...was that guy with the weird eyes sucking himself while thinking about Suzu? Sure looked like it...
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That moment when you're eating fish for dinner and the door opens to Kogan eating a bloody fish. Appetizing xD

Pin the blame on a random past enemy to use as a facade while they look for the real killer. They sure go through ridiculous lengths ta protect their reputation. Everyone in the Kogan Dojo has some sort of inhuman strength even the minor characters.

Speaking of minor characters, the moment the spotlight shines on them, they get killed off kek (it's obviously Irako, just look at those dark girly lips). Big-Eyes gets his name from eating the eyeballs of his enemies and spitting them out... and giving himself a blowjob while thinking of an effeminate samurai boy in his dojo :3








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holy shit ahahaha. i knew it!
Apr 13, 2018 1:57 AM
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keep them asshole points coming. though the bridge visuals was pretty neat. Also some good violence and mie is insane. Guess she as tricked rather well by iraku. Did I just see a guy give himself head? No wonder he missed suzu the most he wanted to bang him.
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Yikes, that auto-fellatio scene sure was something.
Also, I'm finding this show harder and harder to watch, I thought was desensitized but this anime is too much for me.
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At first I felt sad for the exophthalmic guy as he was crying for Susu.. but later I realized that he said the kid in a sexual way and even masturbated remembering his body..
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This show smakes me wonder how the age of samurai could have lasted so long, with the samurai being degenerates who kill each other for the slightest reasons.

But certainly an impressive title, and maybe better to watch in the morning...
Mar 13, 2021 8:25 PM

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Sensei was really going at it in the beginning, wasn't he? That whole eyeball bit rocked my world! He just popped it in his mouth like it was nothing. The murderer has to be Irako ~
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I'm shocked to see a samurai do blowjob himself
Nov 20, 2022 9:34 AM
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I call this episode one punch man
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