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Apr 15, 2009 11:32 AM
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Really nice and funny for a filler-like episode ^^ Good flashbacks are very rare.
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Apr 15, 2009 8:48 PM
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Indeed.xD Love it.xD
Jul 21, 2009 6:34 AM
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A very nice ep (again^^), but i didn't like the end oO
I'm sorry for Allen.
Sure, General Cross seems tobe cool of sorts but these girls were just crazy °_°
When even cute Lenalee defended the general, I decided this episode was not 5/5 but only 4/5 -.-
How dare they make her being this stupid? :o:_:o:

Flashback was good, though
Sep 28, 2009 6:21 PM
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Funny episode a little boring at times though but overall nice
Nov 7, 2009 3:06 PM
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Silly Allen. Cross has learnt him to much.
Nov 8, 2009 11:01 PM
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Good Flashback. Lol at the end.. I thought Leenalee would be a little more touched by Allen's tragic story..
Dec 22, 2009 1:31 PM
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LOL
"I'll never understand women"




Jan 23, 2010 4:03 PM
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Allen is probably right. Women are crazy... at least those women in the restaurant are. XD (I'm a girl so I can say this? Ahah :P) I liked the flashbacks, but I didn't really like the concept of eavesdroppers. Would've been nice with just Allen and Lenalee. Besides, why did they wait 'til they got to a cafe? Why not talk about it on the boat? The boat's a nice setting, isn't it? :'D
Oct 14, 2010 4:19 PM
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Cross is an ass...he's sexy...but still an ass!! Poor Allen.
Oct 13, 2011 4:14 PM

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I was not expecting it to turn out like that I though they would feel bad for Allen but guess not lol.
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Dec 19, 2011 6:58 PM

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Hah, this was a nice episode! this Cross guy seems to be very interesting.
Feb 21, 2012 11:50 PM
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lol I like this episode a lot. Allen's flashbacks were really good.

And I agree with diamond,

LOL
"I'll never understand women"
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Feb 21, 2012 11:56 PM
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This
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"I'll never understand women"


I liked Allen's flashbacks.

I agree with Mon_Diamond
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Jan 3, 2013 1:57 PM

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Glad to learn more about Allen's past, also about Cross.

May 2, 2013 3:14 PM

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Pretty nice side story and backstory on his past/friends, the ending was pretty funny! Lets see what's next!
Jul 13, 2013 4:36 AM

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I like how the demons politely wait around while the characters have their internal monologues.

But seriously, that was sad. Cross is an ass.
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Dec 18, 2013 6:54 PM

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I like this Cross guy tbh.

Lol @ the ladies getting all impressed by the story of Mr. Cross. How did they even hear Allen's story? All of them the same time?!
May 16, 2014 1:12 AM

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"Ah forget it I'll never understand women, I'm clueless" pff allen
May 26, 2016 1:45 AM
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According to the filler list, this was a filler episode...which is kind of strange, because I'd think that it'd be better to introduce Cross and Allen's relationship with canon material. I read that Cross is portrayed worse than he is in the manga, perhaps partially due to this episode? I mean wow, Cross really seems like a good for nothing master who doesn't actually teach his student anything but tells him to just experience to learn :( Poor Allen.

I was wondering why all the women in that restaurant seemed to be so attentive to what Allen was saying, who knew they fell in love at first...listen? Listening to the story. Crazy women.
Oct 5, 2016 4:37 PM
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according my searching is episode is almost filler. Poor allen hardest childhood and lost much things.
Canon part i imagine of lifestyle of croos master and your debts and death of general yeger.
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Naaah, Allen was sooo cute!!!

And we met his best friend xD That's soo sad, that the first akumas he musted to kill were his relatives...

Despite that Cross was very strickt,I think he learned Allen many things...Maybe his methods weren't good, but still, Allen knows now, that life is brutal...
But also, I'm very sorry for Allen.

I can't believe that was a filler xD It was better than some based on manga episodes xD
Jan 18, 2017 4:39 AM
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So this was a filler? Good episode, but it only made me dislike his Master more, thankfully women arent like that, because that last scene on the anime was completly retarded, there is nothing good to learnt from that Cross dude, you dont just treat your students like that, seriously..
Jan 18, 2017 6:00 AM

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Playcool said:
So this was a filler? Good episode, but it only made me dislike his Master more, thankfully women arent like that, because that last scene on the anime was completly retarded, there is nothing good to learnt from that Cross dude, you dont just treat your students like that, seriously..


Yes, this episode was filler. And it completely poisoned and derailed Cross' character, compared to the manga.

Cross was never that horrible in the manga. But TMS decided to make him a villain in the anime, and had him doing things he didn't do in the manga.

Cross was rough with Allen in the manga, but not abusive like this episode -it's mostly comedic slapstick.

Hoshino, the author of the manga has stated Cross loves Allen like a son.

This episode, and a good few other things from the anime seem to be the bulk of why Cross has gained such a bad reputation.
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Jan 20, 2017 4:05 AM
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SilverWolf442 said:
Playcool said:
So this was a filler? Good episode, but it only made me dislike his Master more, thankfully women arent like that, because that last scene on the anime was completly retarded, there is nothing good to learnt from that Cross dude, you dont just treat your students like that, seriously..


Yes, this episode was filler. And it completely poisoned and derailed Cross' character, compared to the manga.

Cross was never that horrible in the manga. But TMS decided to make him a villain in the anime, and had him doing things he didn't do in the manga.

Cross was rough with Allen in the manga, but not abusive like this episode -it's mostly comedic slapstick.

Hoshino, the author of the manga has stated Cross loves Allen like a son.

This episode, and a good few other things from the anime seem to be the bulk of why Cross has gained such a bad reputation.


So I can consider that feedback absolute trash, and non canon stuff?
Jan 20, 2017 5:34 AM

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Playcool said:

So I can consider that feedback absolute trash, and non canon stuff?


Yeah. The first anime had a good bit of filler, and imo it wasn't good, since some of it contradicted canon, as we see with what they did to Cross' character. And some of it, while not bad, didn't go with canon that well.

Now if you want, here's a list that tells which episodes are filler.
http://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/d-gray-man
This is the most accurate list, as all the others I see have this episode listed among the canon episodes, and it's not.
Jan 21, 2017 2:26 AM
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SilverWolf442 said:
Playcool said:

So I can consider that feedback absolute trash, and non canon stuff?


Yeah. The first anime had a good bit of filler, and imo it wasn't good, since some of it contradicted canon, as we see with what they did to Cross' character. And some of it, while not bad, didn't go with canon that well.

Now if you want, here's a list that tells which episodes are filler.
http://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/d-gray-man
This is the most accurate list, as all the others I see have this episode listed among the canon episodes, and it's not.


Thanks for the effort but I never skip filler, I prefer getting the full experience, even if it is a shitty one, I didnt skipped Rurouni Kenshi later fillers, this should be easy in comparison.
May 10, 2018 1:13 PM
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Nearly dropped the show after the ending to this episode. It successfully dehumanized two characters in my eyes and made one of them loathesome.
Jul 16, 2022 1:28 PM

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Marshall Cross is a dick through and through
Jan 12, 2023 3:19 AM

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Marshall Cross seemed like a child perpetrator if nothing to me though. But yeah we know later down the line something like, "he did all for Allen's sake" gonna show up either way.

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