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Mar 20, 2009 6:10 PM
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Honestly, I think on MAL I have seen so many different topics on how anime has affected people on this website. Whenever I see these topics I think "It hasn't change me in any specific way. It's no different than any other forms of entertainment."
Sure certain series can be very meaningful, and perhaps even change your perspective on things, but on a whole it's just an entertainment medium.

I mean really, if I said "How has TV affected your life?" most people would gaff at the thought that TV as a whole has caused me to grow as a person.

This leads me to how certain people think watching anime makes them "special". I watch certain anime because they are good. Just like movies, TV and books. Most people entertain themselves with shit like this. How does "anime" stand out to people? Really, you don't have to be some hikikamori to appreciate anime.

I don't know, heh. I just find it absurd people care so much.

Like what about American comics? A lot of those are pretty fucking awesome. Any one location can make awesome shit.
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Mar 20, 2009 6:14 PM
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It's because people want to feel special in one way or another, and may go by very creative ways to achieve that.
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Mar 20, 2009 6:15 PM
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Because it's from Japan ^__^
Mar 20, 2009 6:17 PM
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You would have to ask those people.
Mar 20, 2009 6:19 PM
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Because it's from Japan ^__^


omg true!

only kawaii ppl come from Japan! =3
Mar 20, 2009 6:27 PM
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Scud said:
Because it's from Japan ^__^
Good enough for me. Let's ignore the overwhelming majority of shitty anime and pretend we're getting some sort of deep understanding of another culture from watching ecchi harem romcoms. Tennōheika banzai!
Mar 20, 2009 6:43 PM
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SY said:
Scud said:
Because it's from Japan ^__^


omg true!

only kawaii ppl come from Japan! =3


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Mar 20, 2009 6:51 PM
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all art forms will shape your standards of them, even porns. but anyone who thinks anime changed their lives needs to lose all their belongings and friends and family in a fire, on some real life changing shit, that will raise their standards of what is really life changing. also im sure whatever perspective you gain from anime you can also gain elsewhere. but neways i like all entertainment mediums, all of it has great stuff
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eh i won't take this too seriously since it seems like it's just a rant but as someone who appreciates the art of storytelling, i think anime is another form of self-expression. there exists a purpose to media beyond entertainment. most people are so dense they don't realize this and that's why the quality of media has been constantly dropping.

to say tv and books don't impact people is an incredibly ignorant statement. you may not be going that extreme but surely you heard about the first presidential television debates, fdr's fireside chats on the radio, Shakespearean plays, and the bible. Talk about influential and life changing...

now there aren't any anime that can compare with the bible or Shakespeare but hopefully you get the point. i wouldn't go so far as to say that anime shapes me as a person but learning to read between the lines, understanding the underlying themes, and see what the author is trying to communicate to you are really important. It may be just anime, but that fact in itself doesn't make it meaningless. it's HOW you use the medium that gives it meaning not the medium itself (although there is a famous scholar who says the opposite).

If you think literature and art is not an appropriate venue to explore ideas and express yourself then life is wasted on you because that's what culture is and there are few things more important than that.
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Because fangirls/fanboys like characters and then think they are sexy and cry when they realize they are not real.
Mar 20, 2009 7:24 PM

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Not everyone on those threads go along with it being magical gift from Japan that rocked their world. I talked about how I am not quite sure how people just transform into other people in those threads; I find it disgusting.

Only thing I may have admitted to was possibly it lead me to like some J-Pop, but I was already listening to that stuff when I was playing FFXI, long before I delved deep into Anime, so hah. There is nothing special or unique about being an anime enthusiast.

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I guess people here just take it more seriously than other things

Im sure you can find people who will say how important books are. On this site it just happens to be anime instead
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eh i won't take this too seriously since it seems like it's just a rant but as someone who appreciates the art of storytelling, i think anime is another form of self-expression. there exists a purpose to media beyond entertainment. most people are so dense they don't realize this and that's why the quality of media has been constantly dropping.

to say tv and books don't impact people is an incredibly ignorant statement. you may not be going that extreme but surely you heard about the first presidential television debates, fdr's fireside chats on the radio, Shakespearean plays, and the bible. Talk about influential and life changing...

now there aren't any anime that can compare with the bible or Shakespeare but hopefully you get the point. i wouldn't go so far as to say that anime shapes me as a person but learning to read between the lines, understanding the underlying themes, and see what the author is trying to communicate to you are really important. It may be just anime, but that fact in itself doesn't make it meaningless. it's HOW you use the medium that gives it meaning not the medium itself (although there is a famous scholar who says the opposite).

If you think literature and art is not an appropriate venue to explore ideas and express yourself then life is wasted on you because that's what culture is and there are few things more important than that.


You completely missed my point, I think. Unless I am missing yours.. :(

My point is that literature, TV, movies, etc can be influential, just as anime can. Anime is not, however, something different and more amazing than other mediums. Anime as a whole does not make you special and it really shouldn't completely change your life.
People who think they live certain life styles because they watch anime.. I just don't get that.
Mar 20, 2009 7:56 PM

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It's not to me, it's just like every other show I watch.
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Mar 20, 2009 8:00 PM

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It's all just television and movies to me.

I guess it could be life changing if you find something really awesome.
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You completely missed my point, I think. Unless I am missing yours.. :(

My point is that literature, TV, movies, etc can be influential, just as anime can. Anime is not, however, something different and more amazing than other mediums. Anime as a whole does not make you special and it really shouldn't completely change your life.
People who think they live certain life styles because they watch anime.. I just don't get that.


Ok, i'll agree with that. my point was just to not underestimate the potential of an art form. However, you can appreciate something without being a snob about it. if you are talking about anime snobs then yeah, you can find those kind of people anywhere. Art snobs, literature snobs, etc... elitism is more of a personality trait than anything else imo.

i tend to give people the benefit of the doubt though and i'm sure when people say that it's all just hyperbole. if anything, i feel worse about myself for knowing so much about anime.

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if anything, i feel worse about myself for knowing so much about anime.

You shouldn't ever feel bad about something you enjoy. Unless it's getting drunk and raping children in an elephant costume.
Mar 20, 2009 9:18 PM

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I agree. I don't know what the deal is. If anime changed you in any real significant way, I would pose that you didn't have much substance to begin with.
Mar 20, 2009 9:19 PM

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New way to waste days upon days of my time. Nothing really life changing about it. Desu.

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Because people are really stupid.
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Mar 21, 2009 12:00 AM

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This, except without being a loli-like girl that thousands of balding 40 year-old men secretly slobber over... maybe actually being the one doing the slobbering, in most peoples' cases.
Mar 21, 2009 12:04 AM

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because they have some other mind.

anyways, i was also a loser and anime still made me a loser.
Mar 21, 2009 12:05 AM

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If anything, I just get lost in my imagination more. But that happens with many things non-anime I watch on TV too...
Mar 21, 2009 12:23 AM

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I just think anime is a whole lot better when it comes to delivering a story to the audience. So why it changed me a little is because it was like a new world to me. It kinda opened my eyes.
Mar 21, 2009 2:42 AM

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I think it's a good form of escapism because as a medium it's varied and appeals to viewers of different tastes.
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hikky said:
I agree. I don't know what the deal is. If anime changed you in any real significant way, I would pose that you didn't have much substance to begin with.


True enough, since i got exposed to anime when i just around the age of 4 or 5 when i didn't even have much substance in me in the first place.

Then again, that would mean that the title of thread is meaningless under my own terms because anime has become a PART of me.
Mar 21, 2009 3:28 AM
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Awh, you mean to say that what is happening to Amu in Shugo Chara is never gonna happen to me? D:
You mean I won't get a hot guy like Ikuto staying in my room at night cause he is hiding from some evil people and I'll never find my would be self?

Reality is so mean! T.T

On a more serious note, this is media, of course you're gonna get people with huge imaginations acting like they know it all or that anime is elite, the same can be said for any other type of Media but what makes those different? Have you asked yourself this? Also, if you're on an anime forum of course you're gonna bump into people like this and the same can be done for books on a book forum or TV programs on a TV forum.

I think Anime opens up a whole new world for the imagination, loving an anime character is the same as loving an actor, you know it is unlikely you'll have them but you love them for their characters they play anyway!

Perhaps in some way an anime has changed someone's life because they maybe going through the same thing almost as an anime and might be confused with what to do, the lessons learnt from that anime could have influenced them a lot on their real life choices for better or for worse or they might have been sad one day and watched some anime and felt a whole lot better and able to handle a situation better so is it any wonder why they like it more?

I don't believe there is anything wrong with this at all and people who think there is to me are the sad one's to think these people are like saddos without much of a life just because Anime influenced their life in some way or something like this. Media which includes anime does help to influence people, even you guys who may not think it does. I mean surely it got you questioning a relationship in one anime or like a good enough reason to fight another? If you found a fight bad then do you think you would fight for what they were fighting for in real life if it came to that? Anime can also open your eyes to some issues that can happen in real life as it's not so censored and let's face it, a lot of what is on TV in the West (Mainly US and UK) is rather censored especially when it targets children or family.

I guess at the end of the day with which media form is better is up to the person, personally I prefer a bit of all but mostly Anime because it's more for teens than say a lot of programs on TV which now a days I hardly watch plus I can watch Anime whenever I like in subbed. :)
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I think it's a good form of escapism because as a medium it's varied and appeals to viewers of different tastes.


This.


By the way, has anyone ever heard of someone obsessed with tv or books to an extent of some anime fans?

I certainly haven't.
Mar 21, 2009 4:33 AM

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I wouldn't use the word life-changing, but there have been a few series and manga I've come across that made me think about certain aspects of life, or simply made me want to accomplish great things in the world.

In that sense, it's had a weaker influence on me than either books or live action films, as there have been certain novels and movies that genuinely made me perceive the world at least a little bit differently.

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By the way, has anyone ever heard of someone obsessed with tv or books to an extent of some anime fans?


I used to watch about 20 live action films and read 15 books a week back in high school. Would you consider either or both of those obsessed?

It didn't hurt my social interactions, sports, grades, and extra-curricular activities.
Mar 21, 2009 5:46 AM

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ShaolinRibiero said:

read 15 books a week back in high school.


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Anime hasn't changed me at all as a person to be honest. In fact I think it would be quite sad if it changed the kind of person you are.

I think Western media has had a much bigger impact on the person I am. Oft cases a detrimental impact.
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OMG i died of bordem in this topic.


how has internet changed your life?

how has tv changed your life?

how has technology changed your life?

how has anything that doesnt directly come from you changed your life?

how has sex changed your life?

yes OP how? HOW !?!?

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I think people find it special because in all honesty anime fans are so few when put up against the entire world. There's a thread that asks how many anime fans there are and most people guesses are in the range of 5-20 million range when their are over 6-7 billion people world wide. That's a a small fraction of the world. Ask any random person on the street what their favorite book, song, movie, or painting(maybe) is and they can easily give you an answer. Now ask any random person what their favorite anime is and you'll get a whole lot of blank stares. This fact is what causes elitism in the overly obsessive fans and cause them to believe they're hot stuff because they watch cartoons from Japan.


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I agree. I don't know what the deal is. If anime changed you in any real significant way, I would pose that you didn't have much substance to begin with.

Personally, I agree with this statement.
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Several reasons.

No one will 'assume' you fap to ordinary cartoons. But you can assume most non anime fans assume it's 'hentai' and you're some sort of pervert and that just leads them to assume your sexual preferences are perverted and a short hop from thinking you like to wank to little girls.

So yeah, liking anime can indeed mean some parts of your life genuinely might change, right up till when you reeeeeeally chew out the fucking idiots that think you are the cliche in THEIR minds eye.

Anime HAS genuinely altered my life though. Before anime I was entirely about models, history and science. My life looked like the life of a person obsessed with war.
Anime has enough weirdness though it entirely masks any amount of warmongerishness.
Nothing you do will make your seemingly obsessed with loli anime interests seem less noticeable and your apparent interest in warfare seem more prominent.
My hobby room is 75% military 'stuff', yet a few anime figures in a shelf and immediately people think I'm a pervert :)

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I think just about every experience one has has an impact on them to some degree.

What part anime has in that, for me, and to what degree, I'm too lazy to go into right now.

But the differences should be obvious.

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SY said:
My point is that literature, TV, movies, etc can be influential, just as anime can. Anime is not, however, something different and more amazing than other mediums. Anime as a whole does not make you special and it really shouldn't completely change your life.
People who think they live certain life styles because they watch anime.. I just don't get that.


Anime _is_ different, not neccesarily better different, but non the less, doesn't make u specioul tho =(

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... when their are over 6 trillion people world wide. ...
6 billion but oh well =P only missed by 100 000% =)

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I used to watch about 20 live action films and read 15 books a week back in high school. Would you consider either or both of those obsessed?

It didn't hurt my social interactions, sports, grades, and extra-curricular activities.


Which is a lie. Taking the average of 3 hours to finish a book and 1.5 hours to finish a movie, it would mean you spent 80 hours a week doing that. That's more than 11 hours a day. Taking into account you go to school for 7 hours a day, it would leave you with 6 hours to eat, sleep, shower and do homework per day.

That's physically not possible.
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Aokaado said:


MackDaddyHart said:
... when their are over 6 trillion people world wide. ...
3 billion but oh well =P only missed by 100 000% =)


Closer to 7 Billion.
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Which is a lie. Taking the average of 3 hours to finish a book and 1.5 hours to finish a movie, it would mean you spent 80 hours a week doing that.


You should spend a few extra hours a week on arithmetic, since that would come out to 75 hours, but your assumptions are wrong, regardless.

I tracked it, and it was an average of 50 minutes per film, (I abused the fast forward feature on a lot of them) and probably 2 hours per book (this one varies between 30 minutes and 10 hours), which would come out to a much more reasonable 47 hours.

However, that's actually a lot more than what I spent on it. While watching films and reading books at the same time was very rare...

Nayah_sux said:

That's more than 11 hours a day. Taking into account you go to school for 7 hours a day,


Where do you think I read most of those books, and a few of the movies? While pretending to listen to boring lectures, of course.

35 free hours a week...

Focus-

The original post lacks a focus!
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Simple answer: ....because it does.

The least to say, it does somewhat re-shape my political ideals and perspective. Thus, it does somewhat change my life and it is also very special to me. Of course, there are many other factors that make anime so special and necessary. More over, its not just anime, manga too. Both anime and manga are necessities of life.

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I've met a lot of crazy ass otaku in my life. & Not once have I ever heard one of them say anything close to your topic nor have I seen many topics on MAL like this at all. I guess Im just oblivious and non-observant or something. That could definitely be it though, obliviously non-observant sounds like me.

But if this is true, I'd have to agree with Hikky.

Then again, I don't really get how things can change your life. Certain people and/or things they say might, idk Im confused.
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how has internet changed your life?

how has tv changed your life?

how has technology changed your life?

how has anything that doesnt directly come from you changed your life?

how has sex changed your life?

yes OP how? HOW !?!?

They all give me a reason to touch myself.
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If I never got into anime, some things in my life would be a little different (I'd have some other hobby I was into) but I wouldn't say it was "life changing". Any hobby could affect your life in some way anyway.
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I don't find anime to be any more significant than any other form of media. Any good story regardless of the format can offer a different perspective. I can't say I've ever had my life changed, but I've definitely read books that have made me think. There have been a couple of thought provoking moments in some select anime, but nothing I would call a revelation.

I mostly watch comedies anyway. I'll be surprised if a comedy changes my life, because if 'Shaun of the Dead' (my favourite comedy) couldn't do it, I doubt anything else can.
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Hey Drybanana: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73345

That's just on the first page. In the over 2 years of me being on this website, topics like that have existed in variation scattered about.

Aok: Anime is different from TV as Movies are different from TV. That is my point. You can like one over the other, but you're not going to say such a statement like "renting movies has rocked my world." Anime isn't super special.

Of course I can name a bunch of amazing __entertainment medium__ that have affected me, but... sigh

I find it amusing people seem to think I am deeply upset by this. I'm not really. I just believe people kind of need to get a life if they feel anime is the equivalent of an angel whispering all the secrets of life softly in their ear, constantly.

Oh, and I get this is an anime website. But I don't really care.

Also, those other people in the 7 trillion existent humans on earth hate all us anime fans. Lets band together and start a revolution. If our smarts learned from animes wont overpower them, I don't know what will.
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Hey Drybanana: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73345

That's just on the first page. In the over 2 years of me being on this website, topics like that have existed in variation scattered about.

Aok: Anime is different from TV as Movies are different from TV. That is my point. You can like one over the other, but you're not going to say such a statement like "renting movies has rocked my world." Anime isn't super special.

Of course I can name a bunch of amazing __entertainment medium__ that have affected me, but... sigh

I find it amusing people seem to think I am deeply upset by this. I'm not really. I just believe people kind of need to get a life if they feel anime is the equivalent of an angel whispering all the secrets of life softly in their ear, constantly.

Oh, and I get this is an anime website. But I don't really care.

Also, those other people in the 7 trillion existent humans on earth hate all us anime fans. Lets band together and start a revolution. If our smarts learned from animes wont overpower them, I don't know what will.
Thanks for using my topic as an example, I feel SOOO special. *cough*
You might want to take into account that nowhere in my topic does it say "How has anime changed your life?"
The question is "How has it shaped you as a person?"
Are you who you are today because of your interest in anime?
I asked this because people with different interests tend to have different traits or personalities, no?
Also, notice how a lot of my answers use words like 'most-likely' and 'probably'.
These are there to say that anime was 'probably' not the only deciding factor.

Nowhere does it say anime is life changing, special, or different.
(Edit: Unless you're seeing something I don't see.)
Like many other interests out there, anime can influence a person to be different.
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Woah guy, no offense. I think "shaped you as a person" is pretty much equivalent. Also, your example was on page one, I don't really care to find other topics like it.

Also, I've heard people say these kinds of things. Outside of MAL.

So it's a holistic observation.

Are you who you are today because of your interest in anime? <-Yeah, no. I'm referring to the specificness of "anime" causing someone to be who they are. As if that's all we like. As if we like every single anime out there.

You could do the "what anime series has affected your life?" --oh wait, we have that topic.

Oh well.
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