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| I think that was more marking her territory, than trying to avoid expressing jealousy. However since Kokou has clearly seen the picture and is aware that Banri and Linda obviously knew each other before, she has to be wondering just why they are keeping it a secret from her. No wonder she's a little anxious! And why are they keeping it secret? If Banri really does want to be Kokou's boyfriend, this is something that he should share. And if Linda wants to be his friend (let alone girlfriend), this is something she should let him know about as well--unless there's a reason for some guilt and shame here. |
rodacDec 5, 2013 9:56 PM
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
rodac said: I can see your point.I think that was more marking her territory, than trying to avoid expressing jealousy. |
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| Banri and Linda wouldve been a good couple in the past but right now i just can't ship them at all. LIKE NO. True Koko still has some work to become a less annoying character but i still like her and definitely ship Koko and Banri. Besides Koko has good reason to feel insecure. Especially in regards to Linda. I don't think she's over exaggerating or irritating in that regard. Although the way she deals with it needs to be toned down a bit. |
Inugirlz said: I see where you're coming from. If Banri and Linda attempted to start over, I don't see it working out much. As much as I would love to see him pick Linda over Kouko, I'll admit that. I think Kouko would be more of a tolerable character to me if she toned down her actions as well. I dislike how she handles things, but based upon her past, she hasn't actually learned how to do those things.Banri and Linda wouldve been a good couple in the past but right now i just can't ship them at all. LIKE NO. True Koko still has some work to become a less annoying character but i still like her and definitely ship Koko and Banri. Besides Koko has good reason to feel insecure. Especially in regards to Linda. I don't think she's over exaggerating or irritating in that regard. Although the way she deals with it needs to be toned down a bit. |
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| That was an underwhelming episode taking into account last episodes cliff hanger. |
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| Kouko: MITSUO, Go home! Lmao. funny. And then that scene with 2D and Mitsuo, OMFG, I was dying. It wasn't a great episode. But a good one nonetheless. I honestly think they should be more honest with each other. If I was Banri, I can obviously tell that Kouko has something on her mind, and you know that she definitely seen your picture of Linda. Confront it. Like why not? It's bothering your beloved girlfriend. Don't be a dumb prick dude. Kouko needs to man up? woman up? Whatever. But she should have told him that she found the picture and confront it. This lack of communication, in turn hurts and helps the character development in the anime. Helping; by creating a good development in the story but hurting it by wasting one of my 24 episodes on useless drama that they should have resolved on the spot. ZOMG. 24 is too short~ |
| "Guys are simple creatures. Just by talking to them, they get the wrong idea." - Hachiman Hikigaya |
| lol, Nana-senpai in Badass mode |
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| I haven't read the source material, so I'm really wondering how this is going to end up. They're really playing up Linda x Banri. One option is that the creators are trolling us hard with the OP, and Linda is in fact "best girl". The other (more likely) option is that they're shifting our expectations onto Linda on purpose just to eventually tear it all down with maximum effect (those feels doe). Kouko seems annoying now, but given her actions and history, I can't blame her really. She seems emotionally broken or underdeveloped since she was attached to Mitsuo for so long. I think it's all a big act just to bring around Kouko's character development, and by the end of the 2nd Cour (mostly) everyone will happily be aboard the Kouko x Banri water vessel. Seriously, every episode I sit there thinking, "just wait for it, the author of Toradora is gonna make me cry for Kouko at some point." |
Trippwire01 said: I haven't read the source material, so I'm really wondering how this is going to end up. They're really playing up Linda x Banri. One option is that the creators are trolling us hard with the OP, and Linda is in fact "best girl". The other (more likely) option is that they're shifting our expectations onto Linda on purpose just to eventually tear it all down with maximum effect (those feels doe). Kouko seems annoying now, but given her actions and history, I can't blame her really. She seems emotionally broken or underdeveloped since she was attached to Mitsuo for so long. I think it's all a big act just to bring around Kouko's character development, and by the end of the 2nd Cour (mostly) everyone will happily be aboard the Kouko x Banri water vessel. Seriously, every episode I sit there thinking, "just wait for it, the author of Toradora is gonna make me cry for Kouko at some point." You don't think a girl who thinks herself as a useless piece of junk sad? All women have their use and beauty. I think it's pretty sad to see a girl who's only known one male her whole life as her soulmate ( and being constantly rejected). She doesn't know how to make friends...only knowing how to use her beauty as a way of breaking the ice. She has the personality of a vulture and mind you that she seems to be well endowed, meaning that who's to say your friends are only friends because you have money? Plus she is "well-endowed" physically, so who's to say a guy doesn't like her just because of that? I'd cry for Kouko. Nonetheless, she's developing :D Banri x Kouko all the way. |
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| I thought this episode was ok. The last episode was such a cliffhanger that I thought a lot was going to go down this week, so yeah this episode was kinda meh :( It's 24 episodes so I guess it all can't be drama all the time and the pacing has to be just right. Her so called "cold" aka "her finding that picture" is definetely not gone. I'm feeling like shes waiting for Banri to be honest with her and to tell her about Linda. So for now she's hiding her feelings. I'm really liking the fact that she's ready for him (not in paris), but i hope its because she's intimately ready and not because she's feeling insecure about knowing about Linda. It took forever for Banri to even mention Koko after Linda was taking care of him, which was hard to me to stomach the entire first half of this episode. I ship Koko x Barni all the way, but i'm not really hating on the moments with Linda. I can't wait for the ghost banri to take over for longer than 5 seconds, and ensue the drama between Linda x Banri x Koko. I'm kinda glad that it didn't happen this episode. Ovearall though, this was a happy go lucky episode, that confirmed the ever so popular beach episode. I hope he keeps his promise and takes her to the beach or the beach trip doesnt get cancelled. God I wanna see that Koko in a swimsuit :D |
markymark1121Dec 5, 2013 11:18 PM
| I'm starting to like Koko over Linda right now. She just feels so devoted to be the best woman for Banri and is willing to change herself just for Banri's sake. Or maybe she is just doing those things out of desperation cause she knows about Linda and Banri. Anyway, looks like a lot of drama awaits them. |
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| Well I duped myself, I thought ghost Tada was going to take over for the episode. "You're cheating" What a way to greet a sick person that was a bad joke :/ seriously if anybody laughed at that something is wrong with your sense of humor. Yana's impression of Koko was awesome :D I finally understand where Koko got that stupid nickname for Chinama, took me long enough *tee-hee* That ending was very sweet and the preview bit was hilarious, it looks like Nana will have a larger role in this anime that I originally thought. |
CSPhobos said: ILoveAnimeGuys said: The way I see it, I feel like Kokou has been living inside a huge bubble from being infatuated with Mitsuo until it finally burst with the realization that he really doesn't love her back. While everyone hates her for her mannerisms, I don't think anyone was ever there to actually help her in life before Banri came along. Both characters (Banri and Kokou) are struggling to get over their former selves. At the same time, they are both helping, loving, and caring for each other along the way.Also, Kokou annoyed the hell outta me. First line: "You're cheating," and what's the deal with her and Mitsuo hating each other when she's supposed to be over him? I just don't get it. Linda is the much less flawed person here. She is more like someone anyone would like to be with, which doesn't surprise me that most of the posts here root for her. I like her very much, but she doesn't deserve Banri. Her chance has gone. I agree. I don't think Linda's trying to win back Banri anyway. |
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markymark1121 said: I was disappointed with this episode, too. Based upon the cliffhanger, I assumed that sh** would go down. Sadly, no drama. 14 more episodes, so maybe things will pick up.I thought this episode was ok. The last episode was such a cliffhanger that I thought a lot was going to go down this week, so yeah this episode was kinda meh :( It's 24 episodes so I guess it all can't be drama all the time and the pacing has to be just right. I can't wait for the ghost banri to take over for longer than 5 seconds, and ensue the drama between Linda x Banri x Koko. I'm kinda glad that it didn't happen this episode. |
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| The episode was a big letdown to me after how the previous one ended. I guess they want to stick to the stupid cliché story stretching. Still I wont lower the overall score yet. While it failed to deliver, it still had its moment - for me it was Kouko basically saying "Get me to the beach pls, and I will fuck your brains out and make you forget about other girls". So great and so unusual for this kind of shows that I have to give it credit here. Also, overall, Kouko's character development is great. She acts straight and true to her feelings now, in a great contrast to the other 2 females who still hide behind big smiles and don't know what the hell they want, nor how to get it. Untill now, I really doubted her true feelings, I was kinda thinking she just flirts around with Banri cose its making her feel better and is not really serious about him. It just felt that awkward, that's it. Not anymore now, I guess :D I also liked how she didn't bring up the issue with the picture yet. She needs to clear that with Banri, but doing it after said brains have been ... yea, that's the way to do it :) Kouko fighting! :) |
AlexGKDec 6, 2013 12:11 AM
| I wish Linda puts up some sort of fight but her passiveness kills this supposed love dilemma. Whatever the main pairing is fine with me. |
| Koko got the picture.....right? |
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| Nana ftw :D Nana nana nana nana nana nana nana xD I really enjoyed this episode, I'm starting to really like Kaga-san. Sure Linda isn't bad but for the mean time I believe Banri belongs with Kaga-san, she trying so hard to keep him and isn't giving up and that's what I really enjoyed about this episode. It showed alot of progression in her character in my opinion. Don't get why everyones so mad lol. |
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| Okay, I'm starting to like Kaga more! Sure, I was rooting for Linda in the previous episodes (still kinda am), but now, it just seems that Kaga is right for him. She's really trying to change for the better for him. I really like Linda coz of her past with Banri but I'm still disappointed that she hid the fact that she knew him. It recently dawned on me that it was a b**ch move to do to a really close friend. If I were Banri, I'd be hurt. |
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| I'm not sure what to think of this episode. Reading the comments it looks like the fanbase here is really split, it's either you like Koko or you really don't like Koko (myself being the latter). I'm just glad this episode didn't end on a damn cliffhanger. Well sex on the beach is technically one but not a big enough one for me to be excited for next week. |
| i like kaga-san... dont like the fact that tada's feelings for linda senpai is coming back :3 |
yulneth said: remember Episode 7. The awkward moment that kaga saw the ero magazines and a condom. She said to let it happen naturally and said that they should do it in paris but in this episode she said "It doesn't have to be paris." so i THINK she is ready to give herself to tada. just saying. :D damn i think so too. hahaha but it has to be paris! |
| IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PARIS ;) |
| That episode went by so fast! Kouko annoyed me a bit in the beginning, but she redeemed herself for me in the last scene. She's becoming more and more aware of the unpleasant side of her personality and is apologizing for it. That's a plus, but I'm still rooting for Linda :) |
| I like the fact that Kaga-san is trying her best in this relationship and is realizing her own unpleasantries. It's definitely Banri that has influenced her too. If you recall from episode 6, he says "Why do you still want to be my friend? Is it because you feel comfortable being with me? Because I understand your awkward and useless self, and yet still love you? Quit acting so spoiled. When you rejected me, you lost the right to want those things!" Funny enough, this is something he couldn't do with Linda. Linda has rejected him in very subtle ways, yet you can tell she shows interest in him. When her friends confronted her about this, she denied it out of embarrassment. Now, it appears her actions seem to be motivated by Banri's level of happiness (and lack of hurt). It was interesting when she reiterated what Banri had said to her "When the rain falls, when the wind blows, when the flowers scatter, when the shadows loom, In every sign, Search for her voice." referring to Kaga-san instead. Maybe Banri didn't show enough forwardness with Linda and that's why they hadn't ended up together. HOWEVER, I feel like they were a budding relationship in autumn that got stalled in winter (amnesia). That's why I'm hoping they'll bloom in spring (and because of her personality). |
| I really enjoyed this episode. The comedy was great and the light-heartedness. I feel like it was the calm before the storm..or the calm waters below a bubbling surface....you could see the conflict and tension in both main characters, Banri and Kaga.. they're not telling each other everything and you could see them make actions in both directions, forwards and back from their internal conflict...will be interesting to see how this turns out...I hope this is the last time I see the ghost Banhri.. pulling that "he's back" and "not back" is really gonna get old if it happens more than once. Though I"m guessing like some other viewers they''ll probably try pulling it last second just before their "it doesn't have to be paris" scene. >.< |
| Even though it looks like Banri will eventually leave Kouko 10+ episodes later..... I Still Want Need them to stay strong!! Childhood route already took it's course and had its chancesu! I'm seriously going nuts Lol Been a L-O-N-G while since a romance tag had me so worked up. Kagabanri ftw! Romance is truly Takemiya Yuyuko forte. Thank the heavens cause I don't see any other Author who can mix comedy and romance like her! |
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| LET NANA BE THE MAIN CHARACTER. |
| I thought Ghost Banri will take over the body and ruin everything this episode, but it dint happen and I'm glad that dint happen But I still like Linda more than Koko |
xin09 said: I thought Ghost Banri will take over the body and ruin everything this episode, but it dint happen and I'm glad that dint happen I'm glad too. And I'm liking Nana more and more as a character, luckily she is still in the next episode. |
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| Man the shipping wars are heating up here. Luckily for me I like both girls, they both have some great qualities although they are very different. Linda is pretty, more mature, down to earth and probably the one that is the best partner for Banri. Koko is more beautiful, coquette, moody and immature and probably requires a whole lot more "maintenance" than Linda as a partner. Having said that, I think she's becoming aware of her own faults and could mature to be the dream woman you want to spend your life with. I'm sure that there'll a lot of up and downs with both girls, we're not even half way there yet. 2D-kun and Mitsuo crak me up. Beach! Beach! Beach Episode!! Yeah... |
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avanover said: I like the fact that Kaga-san is trying her best in this relationship and is realizing her own unpleasantries. It's definitely Banri that has influenced her too. If you recall from episode 6, he says "Why do you still want to be my friend? Is it because you feel comfortable being with me? Because I understand your awkward and useless self, and yet still love you? Quit acting so spoiled. When you rejected me, you lost the right to want those things!" Funny enough, this is something he couldn't do with Linda. Linda has rejected him in very subtle ways, yet you can tell she shows interest in him. When her friends confronted her about this, she denied it out of embarrassment. Now, it appears her actions seem to be motivated by Banri's level of happiness (and lack of hurt). It was interesting when she reiterated what Banri had said to her "When the rain falls, when the wind blows, when the flowers scatter, when the shadows loom, In every sign, Search for her voice." referring to Kaga-san instead. Maybe Banri didn't show enough forwardness with Linda and that's why they hadn't ended up together. HOWEVER, I feel like they were a budding relationship in autumn that got stalled in winter (amnesia). That's why I'm hoping they'll bloom in spring (and because of her personality). I totally agree, but there's some part of me that feels they are going to bring up who made him fall off the bridge. They keep showing the scene and I don't think it's to remind people, I think it's because it's going to play some role later (let the drama ensue!). I like the new Banri, to be honest, it sounds like the old Banri was a wet noodle. I've known people that are in relationships and it just didn't work because the timing was all wrong, maybe with Linda and Banri it just wasn't the right time. Sometimes things can seem right but not all the cards fall into place to build the house so of course the house comes crashing down, it was terribly unstable to begin with. By the way thinking back, I have always been terribly confused on why they wouldn't let Linda see him in the hospital. I have always found that suspicious. |
| "People die if they get killed" who knew. |
| Lol'd again at Yana-san and 2D-kun, saying He's Cheating!. Oh!!! They're planning on their Beach episode!!!!!!!!!! I want to see that!!! |
| I was really bummed that old Banri didn't take over the body. It's about time he remembers everything about the accident and before. I don't dislike Kouko although I think most of the times she's really annoying. But I think Linda and Banri's love is epic, I mean although she tries to deny it it's pretty obvious that she also loves him and they should be together. Linda was first after all. If the accident had never happened Banri would never be interested in Kouko. I hope in the end Linda and Banri end up together. |
| Nana ♥. I like the Kouko, she strives to be maximum for a good girlfriend. |
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Edm1321 said: Well, that Old Banri in the beginning didn't last a lot. The episode confused me a bit as to which Banri is there right now, since it appears he both wants to be with Linda, but at the end also promises to go to the beach with Kouko... From my point of view Old Banri somewhat entered his body and it's still there but Banri's memories still haven't come back instead he can only remember his old feelings for Linda. That's why it's confusing for him, because on one hand he's still the Banri that doesn't remember anything and that likes Kouko but on the other hand he's starting to remember his old feelings for Linda and wants to be with her. |
| Kouko is increasingly opening with Banri, but she is insecure and hiding something from him and Linda is approaching increasingly Banri, each epi leaves more open the story but I will cheer for Kouko until the end I just want to see how will be the epi on the beach .. |
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iinbloom said: I was really bummed that old Banri didn't take over the body. It's about time he remembers everything about the accident and before. I don't dislike Kouko although I think most of the times she's really annoying. But I think Linda and Banri's love is epic, I mean although she tries to deny it it's pretty obvious that she also loves him and they should be together. Linda was first after all. If the accident had never happened Banri would never be interested in Kouko. I hope in the end Linda and Banri end up together. She was first to reject him too. And we still don't know if it was her fault causing the accident... |
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| My girl Kouko is becoming more self-aware <3 it's more fun seeing her development than Tada Banri wrestling with his past self. I'm kind of rooting for a 2D x Nana ending |
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| Linda DID NOT hit Banri, that theory is not viable. People already pointed out way back how the character and scooter designs don't match up. Linda yet again being really good, caring, and supportive. Kouko in this episode shows progress as well in her craziness. I don't understand the strong hate people seem to have for either of them. Nana also is a great little side addition to the cast. |
rodac said: I think that was more marking her territory, than trying to avoid expressing jealousy. However since Kokou has clearly seen the picture and is aware that Banri and Linda obviously knew each other before, she has to be wondering just why they are keeping it a secret from her. No wonder she's a little anxious! And why are they keeping it secret? If Banri really does want to be Kokou's boyfriend, this is something that he should share. And if Linda wants to be his friend (let alone girlfriend), this is something she should let him know about as well--unless there's a reason for some guilt and shame here. Banri is pretty confused at this point for what he wants so he is probably avoiding telling her due to guilt. Also its the same situation like with Linda not telling him who she was: the longer you wait the harder it is to do it and also makes it seem worse. Linda at this point seems 100% to just want to be friends and not cause drama. Banri and his memories are going to cause most if not all the drama in the future imo. |
| That scene at the end with Kouko and Banri in his bedroom was the first actual sweet scene between the two in the entire series. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| screw Banri |
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