| Putting aside all the more excessive stuff like pantyshots and accidental boob grabs, if you can't handle bouncing anime boobies, you're gonna have a rough life. Yeah anime and games take it a bit far sometimes, but boobs bounce, that's just a fact of life. If you want to take issue with real women being overly sexualized, fine. But who are you protecting by wanting to get rid of fanservice in completely fictional media aside from your own sensitive eyes? The characters? They aren't real. The younger kids watching? That's their parents job. I gotta agree with op, grow the hell up. |
| Lmao they are those same idiotic ppl who say that "gaming is bad" smh smh |
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| Honestly, I don't have issues with ppl disliking fanservice/sexualization of characters....whatever the reason. But I have issues with these people: -Hypocrisy: I mean, you are angry due to a character being sexualized but you don't say anything about blood, violent scenes or people being slaughtered. Someone in other thread was saying ""It's just fiction is a terrible excuse....No shit it isn't real, but is entirely capable of impacting people's real-life views and actions" but he doesn't have issues when i found his Twitter with a banner of a kid -Takagi-san- being shot in the head. He claims "I don’t care what real life views it impacts takagi is a a stupid character with a big ass forehead". Probably this person was trolling but i read similar cases. -Threats and discrimination for liking an anime or characters with elements some people think its "problematic": just like the case above, they don't give a fuck if you like a character that is a murderer but if the character is a "pedophile" or rapist, some people suddenly are angry and you are accused of "supporting pedophilia/rape" if you don't criticize that aspect when in most cases, it isn't even the main trait of the character or the theme of the anime. I'm more worried about people who openly vote racist, corrupt and war criminals politicians and they are proud about it. Instead of trying to act like fictional "human rights" activists, touch some grass. -Sexism: most complains about "sexualization of characters" are a problem if the character sexualized is female, almost never if the character is male and in some cases male and female are "sexualized" but its only a problem if the character "sexualized" is female. Similar with that stupid controversy from last year, its wrong if the underage character is female and the adult is male but it isn't wrong if the underage character is male and the adult is female. -Extremely worried about fictional characters being sexualized/raped but they care very little about real life cases: this is probably the worst aspect of these people. Ironically, they never cared about pedophilia and rape crimes since you rarely see them when real cases appear or they are silent but strangely they make a big fuss when its fictional. I hate those people a lot. |
NurguburuJan 25, 2022 4:52 PM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
europeanyogurt said: Somtimes with the case of fairy tale and seven deadly sins it gets annoyiog Nope, both of these show's are clearly ecchi shows. Imagine complaining about fanservice in ecchi shows. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas "Woof" -Tobiichi Origami "Are you trying to turn the dormitory into a strip club!?! -Atena Saotome |
IgorPsc91 said: Fanservice is a stupid thing created for stupid people That's why Evangelion have so much You have Shokugeki in your favorites. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
| it takes away from the plot. usually fanservice anime exist only for the production of fanservice and have no substance outside of it. not to mention that justifying the sexualization of characters under 18 years old is a huge fucking red flag and a sign that u are most likely a jobless mid twenty year old jerking off to loli porn in the dark in ur parents basement |
hik1komoriJan 25, 2022 6:58 PM
| It's not just fanservice that's the problem with later anime. It's saccharine bimbos, fake nerd comedy and lack of character development; a trifecta of dumb ideas forming dweeb pandering garbage. Because most fanservice is a marketing gimmick that anybody can come up with which is generic. Also because people want to take an anime very seriously. They want more than just haremettes, tsunderes, whatever being intellectually vacuous and having an inordinate interest in appearing sexually seductive to a pitiful, spineless, dorky protagonist. If there's one thing that I hate in anime, it's the main character being a dorky beta male somehow attracting several bimbos. |
Kurt_IrvingJan 25, 2022 8:51 PM
H_M_Q said: Tannhauser said: Because it's on the current agenda. Previously it was violence, now fanservice and loli. I wonder if we'll ever get to denouncing anime like Initial D and movies like Fast & Furious since reckless driving hurts more people than any amount of "sexualization" can ever hope to. Violence and driving fast can be used to do good things. Heroes can beat the "bad guys" by killing them, or pass them in a race by driving. Nothing good comes of raping someone? What you describe is the source of most wars throughout history and 101 for propaganda, i.e. your enemies are the bad guys and your comrades are the heroes who fight them, so as far as "greater good" is concerned, portraying this mindset should be worse than anything else. On a smaller scale, e.g. Batman fights some villain, it's a clear case of vigilantism which is pretty much the same and is also illegal. Fan-serivce, on the other hand, has nothing to do with sexual violence. Most of the time it's presented in the form of camera angles or attractive outfits.   Even the so-called boob grabs are either accidents or happen between characters who are close. But sure, it's definitely more disgusting than killing a fellow man in cold blood because he's "bad". |
Yudesei said: Good thing there's nothing to justify about unrealistic cartoons, that would even be a ridiculous stance if we were talking about real people, given that sexuality is a natural part of being human, just in case that was somehow news to you. Imagine saying it's a red flag if someone enjoyed a John Wick movie, Christ.it takes away from the plot. usually fanservice anime exist only for the production of fanservice and have no substance outside of it. not to mention that justifying the sexualization of characters under 18 years old is a huge fucking red flag and a sign that u are most likely a jobless mid twenty year old jerking off to loli porn in the dark in ur parents basement |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Tropisch said: I can imagine that. Wait, I don't even have to imagine that, I see it all the fucking time. loleuropeanyogurt said: Somtimes with the case of fairy tale and seven deadly sins it gets annoyiog Nope, both of these show's are clearly ecchi shows. Imagine complaining about fanservice in ecchi shows. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: Good thing there's nothing to justify about unrealistic cartoons, that would even be a ridiculous stance if we were talking about real people, given that sexuality is a natural part of being human, just in case that was somehow news to you. Imagine saying it's a red flag if someone enjoyed a John Wick movie, Christ. Surely you jest. Sexuality is a sin good people need to reject, murder and torture, however, now these are natural virtues everyone should pursue. |
Tannhauser said: There's no easy answer, you just have to try and view everything in the proper context. Murder is trivial in fiction because we know this person isn't dead, so if it's just some generic bad guy, it may not have much impact at all. However, a single gruesome scene of violence that aims for realism can easily be worse than 100 deaths in a John Wick movie. Similarly, a sexual harassment scene might feel real and very uncomfortable, and that can have more weight to it than violence that in real life would far exceed it. Now, as for harassment or sexual assault in fanservice, that's just silly, it isn't intended to be viewed seriously, and reacting like it mocks real sexual assault is disingenuous. This is just a case of someone not being able to properly contextualize fiction, because they are overly influenced by the real world equivalent. Yudesei said: Are you seriously questioning why a person would be uncomfortable about seeing sexual assault being romanticized? Wow, okay. As for your question; what do any of those have anything to do with this topic? The topic asks for fanservice, and I responded that I dislike when sexual harassment and assault are romanticized for "fanservice". I'm actually stunned that someone would even question this. Wow. I'm just curious to know how people differentiate levels of comfort and discomfort they feel towards depiction of different crimes and other socially unacceptable acts. Assuming romanticizing of "sexual harassment" makes you uncomfortable, why other acts do not? There are tons of movies and some anime that romanticize street racing, meanwhile horrific number of people die because of the reckless driving. Same with murder, which is the worst of all, yet gets casually depicted everywhere like it's nothing. Note that I'm not ranting, I sincerely can't comprehend what's so different. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
work1ngondying said: Why is everyone hating fanservice? All I am going to say is a few random users on MAL hating on fanservice is hardly "Everyone". |
dadnaya said: IMO It's just an elitist mindset. Fanservice=cheap entertainment Therefore People who like cheap entertainment (fanservice )= are of small minds I'm a smart and intellectual person, therefore I cannot like cheap entertainment (fanservice) Is probably their train of thought I can't agree with you 100 % but because you are using Saegusa Mayumi as forum avatar, your post become valid. |
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| Years of brainwashing people into thinking sexuality is a bad thing |
LostSpectre said: Yudesei said: Good thing there's nothing to justify about unrealistic cartoons, that would even be a ridiculous stance if we were talking about real people, given that sexuality is a natural part of being human, just in case that was somehow news to you. Imagine saying it's a red flag if someone enjoyed a John Wick movie, Christ.it takes away from the plot. usually fanservice anime exist only for the production of fanservice and have no substance outside of it. not to mention that justifying the sexualization of characters under 18 years old is a huge fucking red flag and a sign that u are most likely a jobless mid twenty year old jerking off to loli porn in the dark in ur parents basement Are you replying to my post or someone else's? Asking since the quoted message isn't mine. I don't make mistakes like writing lowercase letters in the beginning of sentences or shorten "you" as "u". |
YudeseiJan 26, 2022 11:45 AM
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| Not q new thing; the fanbase has been debating that value of fanservice, or lack thereof, since time immemorial. These days I'm mostly fine with it, but I so roll my eyes at it if it's over the top. |
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| It's worth hating on for the sole purpose of getting a response out of the usual crowd, but there are a few worthwhile responses here so I won't repeat. |
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work1ngondying said: hey ladies and gentlemen im going to talk about fanservice why are there suddenly so many fanservice topics being created i dont really care about fanservice that much but the people who start making topics about that is at least younger than 13 i guess nowadays people cant handle seeing a women's chest the same people complaining have never been in the vicinity of a women and yes i know sometimes fanservice can go overboard but just grow the fuck up They are gay.That is why they hate fan service.No straight male says they hate boob and panty shots. |
ezikialrageJan 26, 2022 2:00 PM
Yudesei said: Shit... my bad, I don't know how I managed to do that. Are you replying to my post or someone else's? Asking since the quoted message isn't mine. I don't make mistakes like writing lowercase letters in the beginning of sentences or shorten "you" as "u". |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
ezikialrage said: Don't underestimate the amount of people who dislike fanservice because sexual themes make them feel uncomfortable. work1ngondying said: hey ladies and gentlemen im going to talk about fanservice why are there suddenly so many fanservice topics being created i dont really care about fanservice that much but the people who start making topics about that is at least younger than 13 i guess nowadays people cant handle seeing a women's chest the same people complaining have never been in the vicinity of a women and yes i know sometimes fanservice can go overboard but just grow the fuck up They are gay.That is why they hate fan service.No straight male says they hate boob and panty shots. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
deg said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: Majority? Yeah soyjaks aren't a Majority. Those threads you see complaining about it by the freaks I talk about all the time are not the minority lmfao. You living in a fantasy land dude. Also the people you talk about are American/uk. ye like religious people will not complain about them for example Islam as well as governments like China and India I meant to say news articles* not mal retards. So their audience would be wider. When you see someone cry about x in anime it is mostly ignored/shit on/laughed at. Anywhere besides echo chambers like resetera and shitaku Also what does Islam and especially India of all shitholes have to do with it? |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: deg said: ye like religious people will not complain about them for example Islam as well as governments like China and India I meant to say news articles* not mal retards. So their audience would be wider. When you see someone cry about x in anime it is mostly ignored/shit on/laughed at. Anywhere besides echo chambers like resetera and shitaku Also what does Islam and especially India of all shitholes have to do with it? China and India and all religious people are big potential customers because of their big population China is already the top or one of the biggest markets for anime anyway |
| Because they are soft or have something against softcore hentai. |
| what do you mean by everyone?? more people love fan service than hate it. haters just seem there are a lot just because people never shut up about it. the reality is that fanservice haters are in the minority. |
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| Fan service is just a tool to engage more to the viewers. The problem come when people think about it too much. So it is will degenerate the value of the series. People will judge the most viewers come just to watch "the service". The discussion about story/plot character become less important. Tbh if series relies too much from fan service it will become label of the series. |
work1ngondying said: why are there suddenly so many fanservice topics being created Holy shit, define "suddenly" They've been a constant presence on this board for years, it's absolutely maddening in how much it dominates these forums, how are we going to sit here and act like this is new when it's been a neverending revolving door of accounts that are a couple of months old barging in here and thinking they're saying something new and revolutionary with their hot take on ecchi it's insanity inducing, please send help to those of us who have had to suffer through this torment for 6 years now EDIT: I'm not talking about you btw OP, lol, just saw that and wanted to express frustration with this topic's constant presence |
ManabanJan 28, 2022 5:14 PM
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| I've already heard this question a hundred times. I'm sure based on numbers and sales, there is a huge fan base that watches and enjoys any anime, even if it includes fanservice. No idea where the generalization in the question comes from. |
   You and the rose are connected. Know the weight of your own life |
| I got no problem with fanservice, if it is tasteful. It's been said thousands of time but Fire Force is an example of distasteful fanservice, if you like it by all means go ahead but i think it deserves some criticism sometimes cause it can just get a bit too much sometimes. |
| Because they want to keep their fragile integrity and not come off as creepy and perpetually horny, because that's the message they send if they say they like fan service. Which, in the end, nobody gives a shit about. So it's only to fool themselves. The people who say they don't like fan service are the ones who get the hardest boners with just a single flash of a panty |
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| one wrong tempo or positioning, you will get hated, that's society |
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Astrollyth said: but but you got Dandadan in your favourite broo🗿I personally can watch an anime with a certain degree of fanservice, and I think there's a limit when fanservice can be too much. What pulled me away from really enjoying certain anime like fire force is its fanservice, I think there was too much unessesary fanservice going on in it. Like some people just really want to enjoy a shounen or even sci-fi anime without seeing half-naked women and children on the screen and feeling like a creep, there are so many different sites you can go to watch stuff like that if you needed to and I think sometimes they put so much fan service in some anime to keep horny twelve-year-olds to keep watching there show, I think the unecessary over sexualization of anime characters is because of this. |
  "I can't trust a website where csm is rated higher than hxh"- Akira Toriyama  |
akiramado19 said: Astrollyth said: but but you got Dandadan in your favourite broo🗿I personally can watch an anime with a certain degree of fanservice, and I think there's a limit when fanservice can be too much. What pulled me away from really enjoying certain anime like fire force is its fanservice, I think there was too much unessesary fanservice going on in it. Like some people just really want to enjoy a shounen or even sci-fi anime without seeing half-naked women and children on the screen and feeling like a creep, there are so many different sites you can go to watch stuff like that if you needed to and I think sometimes they put so much fan service in some anime to keep horny twelve-year-olds to keep watching there show, I think the unecessary over sexualization of anime characters is because of this. It's a manga though, I was talking about anime differently. |
  “𝘐𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥, 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯’𝘵 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦. 𝘏𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘳𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘮𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘴 “𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩”. 𝘏𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 “𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩” 𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘹𝘤𝘶𝘴𝘦.” – 𝘚𝘢𝘯𝘦𝘵𝘰𝘴𝘩𝘪 𝘞𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘴𝘦  ʏᴀsᴜʜᴀ - ғʟʏᴅᴀʏ ᴄʜɪɴᴀᴛᴏᴡɴ |
| It’s because the blood that comes out of ones nose when watching it goes everywhere. Sad face , my bad. |
| It's not that people hate fanservice, it depends on how tolerant you are to it. |
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TheFireNinja said: Yudesei said: it takes away from the plot. usually fanservice anime exist only for the production of fanservice and have no substance outside of it. not to mention that justifying the sexualization of characters under 18 years old is a huge fucking red flag and a sign that u are most likely a jobless mid twenty year old jerking off to loli porn in the dark in ur parents basement It honestly amazes me the generalizations that anti-sexualization folk come up with whenever people don't support them in their hysteria. Rather than trying to understand different points of view about the separation of reality and fiction, they want to resort to the same teenage-level insults about "neckbeard" anime fans. If you feel so strongly about this, why don't people like you do something productive with your values and take up a job helping people who are actually sexually harassed? These characters are fictional. They don't have feelings or thoughts. They're merely products of an author's imagination. So, people like you really need to get your head checked. For the amount of effort that you people put into protecting fictional characters, you could put that into helping an actual human-being. As I've already written to LostSpectre (the user who first quoted that message), the quoted message isn't mine. They made a mistake when trying to quote the user who actually wrote it. Perhaps you should actually read what has been written instead of making rude assumptions, or at least direct your rage towards the right person. |
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| it is ok but im seeing it too much this season |
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Penelope-Eckhart said: Nothing is particularly wrong with it, but it often serves very little purpose; at least in terms of advancing the plot or character development. what the hell is going on with this post i created a while ago it merged with another one post but im still getting reply notifications |
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