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#1
Apr 14, 2013 10:32 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This guy's a complete idiot. He's wondering why they broke up. He cheated on her, and didn't even want to understand her feelings. In the last episode, Chise didn't want to hear about his affair with Fuyumi. She wanted to be ignorant and just pretend that everything worked out. He didn't even try to console her when she's going through her body changes.
 
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Oct 1, 2013 8:55 PM

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You're right.

I don't understand his motive for being 'disgusted' with her killing the people trying to bomb their town. He hasn't been developed as some pacifist against all war.
 
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Jan 9, 2015 12:39 AM

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Animatronix said:
This guy's a complete idiot. He's wondering why they broke up. He cheated on her, and didn't even want to understand her feelings. In the last episode, Chise didn't want to hear about his affair with Fuyumi. She wanted to be ignorant and just pretend that everything worked out. He didn't even try to console her when she's going through her body changes.


I personally believe that the author made him in such a way as he does not know of the war outside at all, being ignorant - or should I say, in self-denial that the war is actually a happening thing in Japan, at least. It is evident since the start that he was trying to deny that Chise is a weapon, thinking that she is the same girl as before, however, the very thing he is trying to deny keeps appearing in front of him, traumatising him which also resulted into the adulterous affair.

Whereas, Chise's actually not the one being ignorant here. She is in fact, in my opinion, the complete opposite. She cares too much about how Shuuji feels, not wanting to hurt him, pretend that the affair did not exist all to care about his feelings, and his face of anguish all the time. That is why she 'broke up' with him, so that she can not hurt him any longer, at the cost of paining her true feelings for him.

RediceRyan said:

I don't understand his motive for being 'disgusted' with her killing the people trying to bomb their town. He hasn't been developed as some pacifist against all war.

He isn't a pacifist - you are right here. However, he isn't actually disgusted, he was just trying to run away from the fact that Chise is a weapon, but the situations and scenarios which just coincidentally happen to them denies the very thing he is trying to avoid, making him traumatised by the fact that the war is real and people die; Chise is a weapon to kill people.

The recurring synopsis of this episode is on human relationships, and it does so pretty well. Through Akemi's hinted confessions; Yukari's situation; and Tetsu's trauma, the main idea conveyed is over the fragility of human lives and the resultant grief from the deaths of people. Humans are social animals, we are born to love and socialise. However, life is cheap in war, where people die. People undergo into a recluse entirely, a selfish method to prevent oneself from being hurt although it passively hurts oneself's subconsciousness. In easy terms: to not hurt oneself with the loss of a comrade, friend, family, or lover.

However, even so, this episode regressed into its minimal development once again. I was expecting a moment of happiness, at least, but the scriptwriters and author just purposely wants to make it totally emo and just screw that. Making a story purely sad does not evoke the sad mood compared to those with an amalgam of emotions, so to speak. Badly done in this episode here, and in the entire of the anime thus far.
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Mar 19, 2015 10:36 AM

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This is torture O.o Half of the show is showing that his boyfriend is a useless, spineless coward. He has a brain of a 10 years old child imo. His girlfriend is doing all the dirty work to save the fucking town and friends but all he can do is being annoyed with himself. Questioning about the relationship and all the crap instead of supporting her. Oh BOY! He is such a delicate flower...
 
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Jun 11, 2015 2:59 PM

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You got it pretty much spot on.
Really hope it gets a bit better though, I care a bit for the characters, just not as much as I wanted to.
 
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Aug 15, 2015 9:37 AM

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RediceRyan said:
You're right.

I don't understand his motive for being 'disgusted' with her killing the people trying to bomb their town. He hasn't been developed as some pacifist against all war.

Yeah.
She's not different from all soldiers sent to war...
Dub = fake crap. Always.
 
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Oct 12, 2015 2:28 AM
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I agree Shuji is a jerk - but in previous episodes Chise had the same dilemma of not being worthy of living after killing so many people. Shuji just picked on where Chise left - now, she just want to kill (grow) more and more. I believe Shuji is deliberately made like this to represent questions about morale in war - which are senseless anyway. That's why nobody here likes Shuji - he remind us on fact that killing is always wrong...
 
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Feb 21, 2016 5:54 PM

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Chise sure looks different in a military outfit :p pretty funny to see her like that :p

Interesting development in general, let's see what happens next!
 
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Jul 7, 2016 11:06 PM

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OP song - terrible/5

I dont like Chise military outfit and lip stick -_-

ED song - 2.2/5

2.75/5
 
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