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deave112 said: Highlights of this episodes were: YAY! FINALLY!!! SakixSatoru FOREVER! Damn, I regret opening the spoilers without watching the finale!! >.< |
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| totally called the queerrats being human from pretty much the first time i saw them, fantastic episode, and a flawless series, 10/10 |
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| Easily a 10 out of 10! The best show I've watched in a long time now (really hoping for a translation of the novels so I can read them as well). Anyone who knows the name of that song in the ending scenes? I've tried to find it in the OST's but it's just not there. |
| Amazing series!! Earlier I'd thought that perhaps the queerats were non-PKs who regressed naturally, so the reveal at the end was a little surprising. I give it a 10/10 though it falls a little short of perfect. For final arc, I feel like Saki and Satoru had lost some of their character, though I guess that could just be explained by their maturation, which mellowed them. But I still miss the chibi versions. lol. Loved the soundtrack. It was incredibly effective at setting the mood and building tension. One of the best anime soundtracks I've listened to in a while. I'll be recommending this to anyone who'll listennn. <3 TheSusurrous said: Easily a 10 out of 10! The best show I've watched in a long time now (really hoping for a translation of the novels so I can read them as well). Anyone who knows the name of that song in the ending scenes? I've tried to find it in the OST's but it's just not there. Second movement of Dvorak's 'From the New World'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYl4Xb4cDQ8 It takes a while to get to the melody you hear in the show. |
hikoghertMar 23, 2013 3:59 AM
deave112 said: symbv said: You were right. They've changed the Akki's gender from a boy to a girl. I would argue it was a logical choice for the anime to change the Akki to a girl. The Novel author always seemed to make the males more aggressive. Satoru was aggressive. Most of the combative leaders were the aggressive ones. most of the historical fiends were males. So having the Akki be male was a logical choice for him. However, it always seemed that the Akki was Maria's child and shared her striking red hair and similar characteristics. So when you animate the story it would be a logical choice to make the Akki a girl so it resembles its mother more. |
CirrisMar 23, 2013 4:06 AM
| So what now? I should have been cheering for the queerats it seems. I was relieved when "humans" won, but crap, those were descendants of disgusting mutant-killers, that destroyed our civilization, not actual humans, lol. Overall, that was fantastic finale for another great, non-moe show. |
Rednecked_Crake said: The thing is there is moe in it, starting from the character design, but it just happens you does not recognise it as moe or you find it tolerable.Overall, that was fantastic finale for another great, non-moe show. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Rednecked_Crake said: The thing is there is moe in it, starting from the character design, but it just happens you does not recognise it as moe or you find it tolerable.Overall, that was fantastic finale for another great, non-moe show. Well, it was more plot driven show, and that's what I meant. And by moe, I meant not character designs or whatsover, but crap like pantsu shots, or overused tropes, which of course would be too far-fetched for "moe" definition. So perhaps I should have rephrased it as "not-characteristic". Besides, I'm not against moe, but sometimes you need a breath of fresh air. |
| 10/10 for me. Even with all the small but painful changes from the novel it's still the best one of the last 2 seasons at least. |
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| Bravo. This series was something else. |
Rednecked_Crake said: Then you use "moe" only for its negative connotation. As far as common usage in Japan is concerned, "moe" is not used for panty shots (there is a word "fan service" for it) and it is clear that "moe" does not equal to "overused tropes". And I do need a breath of fresh air, because of the frequent whiff of stale talk of "moe equals to crap and shit" is all too common.Well, it was more plot driven show, and that's what I meant. And by moe, I meant not character designs or whatsover, but crap like pantsu shots, or overused tropes, which of course would be too far-fetched for "moe" definition. So perhaps I should have rephrased it as "not-characteristic". Besides, I'm not against moe, but sometimes you need a breath of fresh air. === On topic, I am glad that the last 2 seasons we have two 2-cour anime (both science fiction) that shows us sacrifice and trade-off in society for its well-being and survival can be greater than we thought but still necessary. Yes, I am talking about Shinsekai Yori and Psycho-Pass. |
symbvMar 23, 2013 4:30 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| BRAVO! Wonderful conclusion! :D Kiroumaru died like a BOSS! Really loved the guy RIP T_T And that child was a girl? Well she was a sad existence :( I actually felt really bad for squealer with the way he was treated and laughed at. Loved the scene where Saki put him out of his misery :*( Satoru staying alive and marrying Saki was very nice. Saki is such a great female character :D |
Barion-ZaraMar 23, 2013 4:56 AM
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| the ending is nice but I wonder if they successfully recover all babies that were taken away from nursery before the queerat imprint them. its good to know that Satoru and Saki really move on after they remember their lost love. |
Then you use "moe" only for its negative connotation. As far as common usage in Japan is concerned, "moe" is not used for panty shots (there is a word "fan service" for it) and it is clear that "moe" does not equal to "overused tropes". And I do need a breath of fresh air, because of the frequent whiff of stale talk of "moe equals to crap and shit" is all too common. Alright, usage was wrong. "Crap and shit" is not equal to "crap like" though. Besides I've already said that what I meant and what I said was wrongly worded, which you seem to take as offense for definition of "moe". Perhaps forums are not the best places for searching for fresh and not stalled air. |
| ^ Of course it would help if you can elaborate why you consider it the "worst" compared to every single anime you have watched. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| ^ I second that. I loved the ending, especially the soundtrack, that was really amazing and powerful. I really feel bad for Squealer and for Kiroumaru. The series overall was very refreshing! |
| Well, the END. This anime went from high to low and ended mediocre. It was good watch but nothing memorable that remains in my memory either. It raised a lot of ethic questions but their impact was rather shallow. And I somehow knew quee-rats were human since ep4. Oh well, at least their ending is perfect fit for the rest of the series. 6/10 |
deave112 said: Highlights of this episodes were: YAY! FINALLY!!! SakixSatoru FOREVER! Satoru X Saki pairing is so strong that even the anime director who hates them cant deny them in the end! |
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| To get this out of the way first: 9/10 Sometimes, I have problems rating Anime here because I can't decide between for example either 7 or 8, but here, it was very clear to me. The whole story in its own was a masterpiece I have to say, all the problems that have been adressed are really like they are in the real world. That was just brilliantly made. I also really enjoyed the last episode. Sometimes I love an Anime but the last episode is not satisfying, but this one really was! The reason I can't give it a perfect score is simple: Even though the whole story was great, I just didn't fully enjoy some episodes, some were just a bit boring too me. So overall, a still awesome show and I'll either rewatch it soon or read the novels. Just one question! So, what happened to Maria and Mamoru...has there ever been an expenation I missed whether they dies or whatever? That's all, everything else is clear to me! XD |
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| That was... great. I was almost tearing up at the end when they showed all of the characters saying something to Saki ;_; Such a fantastic show, I'll give it a well deserved 9/10 Also, I'm happy that Satoru and Saki got together, they look so cute. |
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| I think the series lost a lot of its impact in the latest arc, a bit disappointing, there wasn't anything new, surprising or emotional impacted. But I still think the series is one of the better ones and deserves positive feedback. There were many things I liked, especially young Saki and the OST were great. |
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| The Kiroumaru here is so much more boss than the Kiroumaru in Naruto. One of the best war arc (if not the best) that I've seen. |
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -Andō & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
Sorayin said: The pacing was completely and utterly fucked, 2nd only to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. There were no likable characters at all, the story kept changing focus and attempted to be dramatic and the art was rather inconsistent in quality. I really can only praise it on it's soundtrack and first ED. Shit tier at best. LOLOLOL. No. |
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Tyrel said: Pretty laughable, right LOLSorayin said: The pacing was completely and utterly fucked, 2nd only to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. There were no likable characters at all, the story kept changing focus and attempted to be dramatic and the art was rather inconsistent in quality. I really can only praise it on it's soundtrack and first ED. Shit tier at best. LOLOLOL. No. To be honest, the show has its issues but pacing issue is a small one. As for no likable characters, perhaps he just hates the world portrayed in the story who have to live by their own rules. And the story shifts focus for a reason as it drills deeper into the darker mystery of the world and the brewing troubles within. Attempts to be dramatic? It is dramatic in the sense it has solid drama. The only thing I agree is that the art can be inconsistent in quality. |
symbvMar 23, 2013 5:56 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Tyrel said: Pretty laughable, right LOLSorayin said: The pacing was completely and utterly fucked, 2nd only to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. There were no likable characters at all, the story kept changing focus and attempted to be dramatic and the art was rather inconsistent in quality. I really can only praise it on it's soundtrack and first ED. Shit tier at best. LOLOLOL. No. What did you expect ? |
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| 10/10 not even a MAL user but made an account just for the sake of commenting this. RIP 2013.03.23 - 新世界より |
Sorayin said: Solid drama? What a joke. Anytime the story got relatively interesting such as the end of the first "arc" it had a candy ass time skip. And i highly doubt even people who love this show would consider putting one of it's characters on their favourites. But...but you liked Bakemonogatari. That show was pure shit :v |
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Sorayin said: Why should a time skip means bad drama? Solid drama? What a joke. Anytime the story got relatively interesting such as the end of the first "arc" it had a candy ass time skip. Sorayin said: Why should it matter? A favorite list is your top 5 characters or so. Being likable does not mean one has to put them in their favorite list.And i highly doubt even people who love this show would consider putting one of it's characters on their favourites. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I;m going to this a 9/10 to me it just didn't having lasting effect on how i felt about it but never the less it was still enjoyable |
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| So this 'thing' finally finished airing. That makes me happy. I bet this masterpiece is probably selling millions upon millions of BDs, and is the most popular anime in Japan right now. I'm sure it's top of every ranking chart ever! Guess I was probably wrong in dropping this..., lol. |
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| Great series, I gave it a 9 however one thing bothered me at the end. Did they ever explain what happened to Maria and Mamoru? We know they lived long enough to conceive a child. Since that child believed that she was a queerat, we know that she never had contact with her parents, Saki deduces this herself in the beginning of the episode. If that's the case, then we can assume that Squealer killed Maria and Mamoru soon after the baby was born to raise it as his own. So the issue I have is that I don't like how Saki fondly remembers her first meeting with Squealer while she's putting him out of his misery at the end of the episode. This is the thing directly responsible for killing two of her childhood friends, one of which was also her first lover. At that point I think it becomes a little too personal to be saying goodbye to him as if he's an old friend. |
Naxrrhid said: Yes you are. But perhaps it is even more wrong you keep wasting time posting empty banter in a SSY thread.Guess I was probably wrong in dropping this..., lol. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Oh yeah I forgot. 9/10. Great stuff and is going in my faves. |
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Sorayin said: The pacing was completely and utterly fucked, 2nd only to Maoyuu Maou Yuusha. There were no likable characters at all, the story kept changing focus and attempted to be dramatic and the art was rather inconsistent in quality. I really can only praise it on it's soundtrack and first ED. Shit tier at best. Basically agree with complaints in first paragraph. wouldn't exactly call it 'shit' .... I'd say it was an above average anime with a pretty good premise and a plot with potential - 6.5/10. really liked the setting... but.. SIGH |
ghostphace said: Maria and Mamoru's fate is never explained so it is left to you imagination what they went through. Indeed one terrifying speculation is whether they might have been drugged by the squeerats and then compromised so that Maria got pregnant... Or they could have perished by some natural reasons or accident. It is hard to tell. One thing is clear is that they were indeed dead when Squealer returned the bones to the village. Did they ever explain what happened to Maria and Mamoru? We know they lived long enough to conceive a child. Since that child believed that she was a queerat, we know that she never had contact with her parents, Saki deduces this herself in the beginning of the episode. If that's the case, then we can assume that Squealer killed Maria and Mamoru soon after the baby was born to raise it as his own. ghostphace said: I guess the thought that they were killed by squeerats, or squealer itself did not come to Saki that strongly. As I said, their death can be caused by a few other reasons. This is the thing directly responsible for killing two of her childhood friends, one of which was also her first lover. At that point I think it becomes a little too personal to be saying goodbye to him as if he's an old friend. |
symbvMar 23, 2013 6:35 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
dankickyou said: Sorayin said: Solid drama? What a joke. Anytime the story got relatively interesting such as the end of the first "arc" it had a candy ass time skip. And i highly doubt even people who love this show would consider putting one of it's characters on their favourites. But...but you liked Bakemonogatari. That show was pure shit :v It's obvious flame-bait. If you watched this all the way through no matter how much you didn't like it saying this stuff is just impossible. It's like saying Shakespeare is a shit writer after reading all his works. The thought of someone saying that is such pure stupidity it hurts. The show was an easy 9/10 for me. Everything was so wonderfully done, the only thing lacking was a slight rush on some episodes and a lower budget. Despite that they still managed to produce one of the best stories, not just anime, I have ever seen. The political and social dialog in the last episode alone was brilliant. |
| It's always in the back of my mind that queerrats may actually be modified human beings... I'm right, but I'm not all too happy about it. Overall, loved this show, though episode 5 and 10 pissed me off to no end, it's definitely worth the watch... I wish there's a remake... But I don't think that'll ever happen... Sigh... 8/10 for this very good show. (Kinda sad, this show have what it takes to earn 10 from me, but alas...) EDIT: Poor Squeler... Imagine having the knowledge of you're actually human, and you're being laughed at, ridicule by others because you call yourself one. I don't even want to imagine how he must've felt, that scene hits me harder than a truck... And that is prior to my knowledge of he is, quite literally, human. |
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| 10/10 Loved it . |
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| 10 out of 10 this episode was such a great way to end on. Saki and Satoru forever so glad they got married and had a baby. I enjoyed every second of this anime it was very emotional and glad I watched it. Now I want to read the novel, hope it gets translated soon. |
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| What an ending to a great series - 9/10 Getting straight to opening of Kiroumaru sacrificing himself to protect the humans and has always been on their side despite how at times portayed him that he could have been going behind their back in the previous episodes. With Squealer's punishment, it showed how he got the slow and painful torturous death after being captured, but as to what he stated about humans - that they were so ready to smite them down if they stepped out of line. Liked how Saki & Satoru finally got together in the end but what I loved about the whole show was how unpreditacble it was and left you wanting more after each episode. The show has been a breath of fresh air in term of the drama it produced and how it stood out from the rest. |
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deave112 said: symbv said: You were right. They've changed the Akki's gender from a boy to a girl. So everyone now agrees that the English subtitle people got it wrong by using "HE", right? I still find it hard to imagine how stubborn people can be believing the subtitle even after my explanation based on the Japanese dialogue. The logic that the novel is a HE so the anime must be a HE even though there is no proof of such in the anime is even more baffling. Do people see how flawed this logic is? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: deave112 said: symbv said: You were right. They've changed the Akki's gender from a boy to a girl. So everyone now agrees that the English subtitle people got it wrong by using "HE", right? I still find it hard to imagine how stubborn people can be believing the subtitle even after my explanation based on the Japanese dialogue. The logic that the novel is a HE so the anime must be a HE even though there is no proof of such in the anime is even more baffling. Do people see how flawed this logic is? Because a feral child trap is superior to a feral child girl. I want to BELIEVE. |
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