Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo Episode 21 Discussion

Smooched said:
It's obvious what most of your preferences are. "Let's watch Shiina take off her clothes and act like a robot." Fan service whores, go watch HS of the Dead or something.

Smooched said:
It's obvious what most of your preferences are. "Let's watch Shiina take off her clothes and act like a robot." Fan service whores, go watch HS of the Dead or something.

gaiusbaltar24 said:

Damn, this statement is so ridiculously naive and childish. There were many Aoyama fans that disliked the episode as well. The crying scene was the worst part of the episode, and it had nothing to do with Mashiro.

Smooched said:


Why did you generalize my statement? Now that's naive.

Fanservice has very little to do with why the majority of people prefer Mashiro's character over Aoyama's. Lol okay.

Smooched said:
There are still novels to be published, so there is no way they are going to give a "proper" ending. J.C Staff has a history of anime-only endings.

Smooched said:
@gaius

You forfeited the rights to ever use the word naive. Be honest here. Why do you think Mashiro is popular? Seriously, you don't have to dig that deep to find the answer. People won't admit to it, but the picture is painted clearly. She is a fanservice character. I have no problem with that. The problem is, other facets of this show (drama) gets criticized because this show ain't about rainbows or hand holding. I always see: "I'm about the drop this show". Why haven't they?

Even though there are still two volumes that have yet to be published, the eighth volume provides a pretty satisfying and proper conclusion, especially in regards to the romance.

That's your personal preference.

Smooched said:
You can bend the definition of proper how ever many ways you want. What I want does not really matter, I'm not the producer.

fishergirl16 said:
Bleeh. I wish it was like in Kokoro Connect, where the unlikely heroine, Inaba, ends up getting the guy. Grr. This just frustrates me.

Cratex said:
I'm making more popcorn. Would anybody else like some as well? :)

Cratex said:
I'm making more popcorn. Would anybody else like some as well? :)

alexx_310 said:
Sorata sister fails
Sorata fails
Aoyama fails
Jin fails

So basically the morale of this story is, dont even bother trying unless you are already incredibly talented as you will only fail and feel like shit for doing so.

Z-flame said:
Moral of the story: Life isn't always fair.

alexx_310 said:

For normal people.
The only one to have it easy is Shiina

alexx_310 said:
Jin fails

alexx_310 said:
For normal people.
The only one to have it easy is Shiina

alexx_310 said:
Sorata sister fails
Sorata fails
Aoyama fails
Jin fails

So basically the morale of this story is, dont even bother trying unless you are already incredibly talented as you will only fail and feel like shit for doing so.

BeyondDestiny said:


It doesn't seem as though you understand the difference between having goals in life and pursuing something idealistic. I'm not even bother quoting the definitions from Oxford. I'd advise you to learn what words mean before actually using them in sentences.

Now, with that said, I'll be going over your "response".

1) I find it strange that you can be so contradictory in your current statement. In your previous response, you mentioned:

"What about those who really did work their asses off and spend everyday 24/7 on their projects."

What I see here is an comparison to the real world. If you claim that its incomparable (anime versus reality), then why insist on your initial statement? You've already contradicted what you've previous said. So, in accordance to your logic, "you've already lost".

(FYI I don't see the point in using the irrationality that exists within animes to create any forms of comparison from the start. If you insist on this, then I'm simply going with the fact that they don't make sense from the start because "anime logic" itself can be completely irrational.)

2) You don't see my point. Why wouldn't humans be sad for losing something? Do you really insist that he should be satisfied with his results if his dream is become a computer game designer? That was Sorata's "goal" from the very start - One that he never completed as he had been beaten in the final round.

3) "Yet every episode is about their bitching.. can't stand this."

What you previous said, during your first response to mine. You know, there can be a difference between "bitching" and "making arguments". The fact that you provide incoherent arguments / statements with no logical explanation to back them up makes me incapable of taking you seriously. As such, I've already discerned your posts as a form of mindless ranting. Likewise to what I said earlier: Try to come up with logical arguments before picking a discussion / debate with somebody else.

4) Who said friendships would break once Sakurasou's disbanded? Again, it doesn't appear as though you understand my point. Places like highschool and university is where you have a network of people you're constantly able to communicate with. In 4 or 5 or whatever number of years, people are going to leave said institution to pursue whatever the hell they want to do. That could mean traveling around the world or other things that make you incapable of communicating with them. I mean sure, you could keep in touch with a few of them, but the network's never going to be the same again. You won't be capable of keeping touch with the tens to hundreds of friends you'd make from those places - This is under the assumption that you're capable of doing that in the first place.

5) Hey everyone! Let's question every single Seiyuu in history and ask if they've ever confessed their love to a boy before becoming Seiyuu. If they didn't do that, then we should prevent them from being Seiyuu anymore! They shouldn't be allowed to EVER get work anymore!

... Is what you are saying to me. I can't even begin to describe how ignorant your response is, so I'll leave it at that'.

6) Again, you haven't defined "trolling" as anything other than "trolling".

Hmm . . . Everybody should look at this.

Light Novel Author creates Sakurasou.
Anime adaption's vast majority of material come DIRECTLY FROM THE LIGHT NOVELS.
> Sees that somebody insists that the "Author has nothing to do with this."

Surely that makes sense.

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Again, I don't mean to pity you, but it really seems as if your life is lacking. Meet a few friends, find a few goals to chase after in life, and come back to watch this series. It's fairly clear that you aren't mature enough to handle it at the moment. As I mentioned earlier, this'll be the last time I respond to your 'arguments'. Cheers.

Ambertastic said:
Why is there discussion on the novels when this is a episode 21 thread? As for the ending, there is no proper ending unless OVAs are in the mix.

penguindrum264 said:
I don't see how the emotional scenes were forced(other than Sorata) in this series because I've seen stuff like this happen to people before and is relatable. They're not working for their dreams and hobbies for fun, they want to make a living/careers out what their doing and failing makes them question themselves like if they wasted time and could of done something else, especially with the characters who invested years into their field.

The only person that I think overreacts(a little) is Sorata because he's only spent a few months on being a developer and got tons of people to work with him and help him and he's acting like he spent his entire life on it. While characters like Rita spent years training, and Ayoama left her family without any financial support from them and supported her self and her training in her field for a two years as a teenager.
Characters like Jin had already gotten used to failures and he decided to push himself harder.

Well I kind of understand Sorata at the end though because he's starting to feel like how Rita felt years ago. Mashiro doesn't mean to, but when someone gets something taken away from someone else on something they've been working on, they can't help but feel belittled.

I would have to agree with the dramatic facial expressions, that was way overdone.

animaders said:


I totally agree with you ;)

tsudecimo said:
Lol mashiro is popular because she is an emotionless character type like rie, yin , nagato and other emotionless dolls not because she is a fan service character..

Smooched said:

Vortiene said:
The whole idea of sorata labelling himself as a "normal" person has me pissed off. It's just a state of mind, and really, it's someone's ability to learn proficiently that dictates how quickly they will become skilled at something, not just some magical talent that you are "born with" (yes, i was born drawing the mona lisa).

Basically, if in the next 3 eps, all of:

1. he figures out that you can stop being a lame ass complainer and exert some true effort towards something if you really want to succeed
2. sometimes you need to exert effort in a DIFFERENT WAY to succeed, it's called being resourceful, instead of hitting the same wall with your head when hitting it with your head 2000 times didnt break it.
3. he HAS TO PICK AOYAMA, i swear if he doesn't, she will be mentally ruined.

doesn't happen, i will not be satisfied...

Smooched said:
Yet you're still on this thread, meaning you're still horny for fanservice.

Alfyan said:
For once there is an anime that shows the actual reality of the world we live in! Sad but true... Every anime I have seen so far has always been straight success for career paths and stories. Sakurasou shows that you can stumble in your path and fail to get what you want which is exactly what reality is.. Kudos for this series for displaying that reality. You cant always get what you want.. but I hope they will eventually get success in the end after what they have been through

tsudecimo said:
Ehh....I hate fan service and i don't see why would someone watch something for the fan service.I still watch it because it is 20 mins/week, i loved the show from the start , i like the art style , i want to see the confession scene because i like anime romance even if i dislike the characters .
Honestly if you said i watch it of hate it would have made more sense than for fan service idiot...

AnimeHAwk616 said:
Dude, I'm pretty sure by now you should have noticed this anime doesn't specifically focus on romance like some other anime. For all we know, there might not be a confession in the end. So please don't raise expectations for something so contrived, and complain about it later.

astemeric said:


I totally agree with you. I don't think everyone completely understands that Aoyama and Kanda aren't just trying to get by with being good as a hobby. They want it as their careers. They want to make a living off of it instead of being a low paid retail worker (no offense to anyone who works in retail, I'm right there myself). But constantly being in situations where there is someone who is actually succeeding EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY TRY will make you feel a lot worse about yourself. I mean I know many people who have poured their souls into their art (acting, singing, etc) and have barely made any money out of it. But they keep pushing because they want that one big break. It makes me a bit happy just to see that the disappointments of life aren't overlooked in this show. It's a lot easier for me to connect with personally.