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Dec 22, 2012 8:27 AM
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Yumekichi11 said:
There is no way without you can be true to yourself cause chemical imbalances disrupt that function.
Don't treat Chuuni as mental disorder >_<:
It makes me felt I need to go see mental doctor because of being Otaku....lol
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MorningGlory said:
I try answer a few question up there xD
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Kumin temporary become Tyrant eye to help Yuuta and Rikka to become friends again.


Obviously. And it was a terrible deus ex machina that should not have happened the way it did.

Q3
There is a foreshadow shown in ep1 that made me think that Yuuta infested Rikka his chuuni syndrome.


Hence, from a very charitable POV there was a little bit of foreshadowing.

Otherwise known as insufficient foreshadowing, or, an asspull with a paperthin excuse.

Worse than that though, it was pretty much pointless. There was no reason for it, it added nothing to the story, and coupled with all the other asspulls, it felt very contrived.

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which part you are referring? ....


The entire section that begins once Yuuta finds the letter and until the very end is like a chain of contrivances strung together and paraded around like a genuine resolution.

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your POV is different than mine. I think Chuunibyou save Rikka from the trauma of losing his dad .
If I not mistaken, Rikka gain lots of friend(which understand her well) from the club she created .


Obviously, the chuunibyou was her escape from the reality that her dad had died, but Touka's entire point was that escaping from reality was a bad thing because it meant no resolution. As for friends, sure she did, but she was also absurdly lucky, and starring in an optimistic romantic comedy. The likely outcome of Rikka's actions was complete social isolation and a slow spiral into depression over the course of her high school life as Touka vainly tried to snap her out of it.

Yuuta, Nibutani, Kumin and the club were extraordinary occurances, make no mistake. If Yuuta had behaved slightly differently or gotten a bit more put off by Rikka initially, she'd never have made contact with him, and her life would've fallen apart.

There was nothing healthy about Rikka's chuunibyou. It was escapism at its very worst, avoiding the actual, concrete issues that confront people in their daily life.

This is not to say that abnormal behaviour in general is bad. Just don't reject reality. The world doesn't go away just because you want it to. Live life to be happy, but remember that happiness also involves getting food on the table, not being rained on or freezing at night, and not ruining your relationship with your parents and family.




EDIT: Also, those weren't questions. They were observations. Admittedly a touch angry observations, but still. These would be a critical part of any narrative analysis I could make on the series.
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yumekichi, are you trying to troll us?

Also, it's not an insult but a diagnosis. Which, in fact, has the same worth as YOUR diagnosis of rikka and friends. I mean, honestly, do you believe what you are writing there? Please, stop pulling facts out of your posterior
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Dec 22, 2012 11:08 AM
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@Yumekichi11 - I think you're ignoring something important about the message, the narration at the end is not all there is to it (it's more like half of it).

Shinka previously said something about taking too seriously the "chuunibyou" while leaving it behind. Going all "no fun allowed" is an overreaction, as if the world would end if you weren't completely serious. She compared that "disease" to the passion each person has, that others may not share, which is one foundation for individuality.

If you add it up, I think the "chuunibyou" the narrator was talking about is any passion or hobby we could have. Whatever we do that isn't a necessity for our lives. The examples used by the narration were a bit misleading, but the rest of the message should be clear.

Also, Rikka may be a bit of a weirdo, but she is not mentally ill. At the very least at the end, she is just messing around for the fun of it.
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Dec 22, 2012 12:38 PM

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This anime was pretty predictable up to the end.
The only thing i didn't expect was that there was no kiss.

Pretty deep story though


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Dec 22, 2012 12:47 PM

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9/10 because this was an awesome show. I'd love to see a spin-off or a second season.
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Naxrrhid said:


And Mellow, care to explain how the ending was ugly?
>Rikka went willingly
>what law did he break (giving his gf a miracle?)
>both of them have their own little world where they can be happy with each other, why would they want our lame reality when you can blast it?


1)I'll agree with the first point, sure.

2)Went in line with the first point; She's literally kidnapped from her family. Did the family know about this? Did they consent to it? We have no idea. The only image we're given is old gramps being held back from his own granddaughter. You know, because they're monsters or something and totally wouldn't rationally just talk to Yuuta and go "hey man, sure, we can have Rikka move back. At least you asked!"

3) That's what the rest of the thread seems to be going on about. That "their own little world where they can be happy with each other" IS A VERY BAD IDEA. Because, you know, having people act out their imaginations from time to time is totally good for them.
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Great series.
9/10
Dec 22, 2012 2:33 PM

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MellowJello said:
Naxrrhid said:


And Mellow, care to explain how the ending was ugly?
>Rikka went willingly
>what law did he break (giving his gf a miracle?)
>both of them have their own little world where they can be happy with each other, why would they want our lame reality when you can blast it?


1)I'll agree with the first point, sure.

2)Went in line with the first point; She's literally kidnapped from her family. Did the family know about this? Did they consent to it? We have no idea. The only image we're given is old gramps being held back from his own granddaughter. You know, because they're monsters or something and totally wouldn't rationally just talk to Yuuta and go "hey man, sure, we can have Rikka move back. At least you asked!"

3) That's what the rest of the thread seems to be going on about. That "their own little world where they can be happy with each other" IS A VERY BAD IDEA. Because, you know, having people act out their imaginations from time to time is totally good for them.


2. Ok I understand your point and I somewhat agree. But lets not forget what genre this anime is. This is a romance-comedy. All of you guys analyzing Rikka's every move are doing it out of context. This show was never meant to be taken that seriously lol. As for her grandparents having no idea what was going on, IIRC Shinka was explaining to Rikka's grandfather at the end, so they knew. Three teenage moe girls holding back the gramps was done for comedy.

3.Your last points seems to orbit around, that if Rikka acts the way she does she will be lonely and left out. Rikka is not lonely. All of her friends are quirky. She acts the way she does because of wanting to be more like Yuuta. People seem to forget what the (core) story really is about. It is not about Rikka overcoming her chuuni, it is about Yuuta falling in love with someone who has it after he got over it. Rikka is like a Haruhi to Yuuta in the LNs.

Lastly, @Yume:
Rikka is not mentally sick. Her chuuni is caused by seeing Yuuta and wanting to be like him. She fell in love with him when she was young. That love filled the void Rikka felt for her Dad. It is not like Rikka can't be normal and understand everything, if anything the last 2 episodes show that. What we see is that Yuuta actually prefers to have her stay the way she was.
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MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
There is no way without you can be true to yourself cause chemical imbalances disrupt that function.
Don't treat Chuuni as mental disorder >_<:
It makes me felt I need to go see mental doctor because of being Otaku....lol
No that's not the point. You are not what you watch. That at most is a stereotype but it does deal with mental issues and cannot be denied as giving out a approach to it that will make these people feel better hence having friends that are less sick than them.

Only you think what you do and from it formulate and don't get me wrong but being a Otaku is not a mental problem, it's a hobby that classifies you as part of a group at most VR. While IRL I have had a few friends in the past but they were quite normal.
Wordsmith said:
yumekichi, are you trying to troll us?

Also, it's not an insult but a diagnosis. Which, in fact, has the same worth as YOUR diagnosis of rikka and friends. I mean, honestly, do you believe what you are writing there? Please, stop pulling facts out of your posterior
I have no time to troll and am stating what are mere facts/truths based on my knowledge. That's all.

Else I would not waste my time with the links.
Ajunky said:
@Yumekichi11 - I think you're ignoring something important about the message, the narration at the end is not all there is to it (it's more like half of it).

Shinka previously said something about taking too seriously the "chuunibyou" while leaving it behind. Going all "no fun allowed" is an overreaction, as if the world would end if you weren't completely serious. She compared that "disease" to the passion each person has, that others may not share, which is one foundation for individuality.
I understand but that is Shinka part whom was quite good in many aspects but combined with the narration, it's more chaotic than comprehensive. Person in thee end may get it wrong totally. If anyone I am quite a good proof.
Ajunky said:
If you add it up, I think the "chuunibyou" the narrator was talking about is any passion or hobby we could have. Whatever we do that isn't a necessity for our lives. The examples used by the narration were a bit misleading, but the rest of the message should be clear.
Like I said above it's misleading and even might be to the point of giving an aspect that is totally wrong.
Ajunky said:
Also, Rikka may be a bit of a weirdo, but she is not mentally ill. At the very least at the end, she is just messing around for the fun of it.
She was mentally ill till she realizes her reality before the last episode pretty much and even so she is still cause the disease NEVER EVER goes away till science can advance in neurology.
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Dec 22, 2012 3:57 PM

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sorry yumekichi, but your facts aren't really factual, and your truths are lacking as well.
If you want us to take you seriously, post your diploma or w/e that qualifies you to make such a diagnosis in the first place. And even then I wouldn't take your telediagnosis too seriously, but sadly, this is the only kind of diagnosis possible.

As an alternative, we could always ask the person who created rikka, HIS word is sacrosanct on this matter.


Also, because it fits right in here:
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'GRANDMA, THE GUN! BRIN ME THE GUN!'
Was I the only one thinking Yuuta was going to die xD
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So Yuuta turned out to be the source of Rikka's chuunibyou after all. That end was pretty nice! I was kinda expecting het to go back to her chuunibyou self in the end.

Overall a pretty enjoyable series with great art and a quirky story, which certainly isn't for everyone. 8/10.

Dec 22, 2012 5:14 PM
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Yumekichi11 said:
No that's not the point. You are not what you watch. That at most is a stereotype but it does deal with mental issues and cannot be denied as giving out a approach to it that will make these people feel better hence having friends that are less sick than them.
According to Wiki, Chuuni is not some sort of disease or mental disorder .Chuuni is just a slang from Japan.
http://en.dic.pixiv.net/a/Chuunibyou
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Wordsmith said:
sorry yumekichi, but your facts aren't really factual, and your truths are lacking as well.
If you want us to take you seriously, post your diploma or w/e that qualifies you to make such a diagnosis in the first place. And even then I wouldn't take your telediagnosis too seriously, but sadly, this is the only kind of diagnosis possible.

As an alternative, we could always ask the person who created rikka, HIS word is sacrosanct on this matter.


Also, because it fits right in here:
Well thing is, the diagnosis I put up was in the 1st episode so in terms of that, the human mind works that it tends to show to society in media forms many things.

Among in this series is how to accept mentally ill people and how friendships betters their function in society.

I think I said all that needs to be said. So you are wrong in thee end cause the diagnosis was already APPLIED in the first episode.
MorningGlory said:
Yumekichi11 said:
No that's not the point. You are not what you watch. That at most is a stereotype but it does deal with mental issues and cannot be denied as giving out a approach to it that will make these people feel better hence having friends that are less sick than them.
According to Wiki, Chuuni is not some sort of disease or mental disorder .Chuuni is just a slang from Japan.
http://en.dic.pixiv.net/a/Chuunibyou
I see, well then the author made a GRAVE MISTAKE! Cause he put up Schizophrenia as thee diagnosis in the beginning of the series.

Hence something is wrong.

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Now I know you are trolling. Silly me to fall for that. Shoo, back under your bridge. I'd even throw in a mashed hobbit as bribe, just so that you leave us in peace with your mad ramblings and unfounded theories.
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Dec 22, 2012 5:55 PM
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Yumekichi11 said:
I see, well then the author made a GRAVE MISTAKE! Cause he put up Schizophrenia as thee diagnosis in the beginning of the series.

Hence something is wrong.
Isn't calling Rikka schizophrenic an exaggeration?

It's not like she is actually hallucinating, that stuff was just SFX for us, the audience. Also, her "episodes" start and stop intentionally on her account. It's a hardcore play believe if you will, but it's not an involuntary event... You can't stop a true delusional episode with the hit of a ladle. XD

She also never confused her family with actual mortal enemies, or her "fights" would have gotten dangerous for real.

Just her way of acting was always more like a kid playing than an actual desperate person that is immersed in paranoia.
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Dec 22, 2012 10:25 PM

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All those dramatic developments in the last 2 episodes went to nowhere on this final episode. I'm majorly disappointed with this anime. I still liked it for the most part, but the ending was a complete let down. The quality of the comedy at the beginning and the previous two episodes were still very nice.

Would have been 8/10 if it carried out the ending better, but now it's at a 7/10.
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Fun series, though the drama was hard to take seriously at the end. 8/10.
Dec 23, 2012 2:34 AM

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Great anime ...I enjoy many of the episode :)
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This was sugoi DESU.
Airing it one day before the warudo should have ended and parodying on the Mayan calendar was also sugoi DESU.
I find it nice how they made it like a life lesson DESU.
But I'm missing my kiss DESU.

It has been a very great series; there were some downs but definitely more ups. You can see KyoAni hasn't "unlearned" making serious (how to interpret serious is up to you) anime by making mindless slice of life anime, it's only they are simply not doing it often enough. Hyouka was already a step in the good direction, but Chuunibyou definitely did it much better. While the conclusion was satisfying it would be great to see some kind of sequel, but it really depends on how it would be done if I would want it.

It deserves the 9/10.
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This show was fantastic. I loved the ending. Everyone is a kid at heart, and it's OK to fantasize about stuff that doesn't exist as long as you still have a grasp on reality.



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Dec 23, 2012 8:36 AM

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This anime progressed speedy.
I could enjoy enoughly.
Dec 23, 2012 5:36 PM

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Good ending. Why no kiss? Uh... planning ahead for a sequel?

I greatly enjoyed this anime for what it was and what it avoided. For me, the rewatch value is extremely high.

10/10.
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Dec 23, 2012 9:04 PM

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epic ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i feel it the entire episode LOL
Dec 24, 2012 3:09 AM

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Well, the episode avoided most of the cliches that I was expecting and threw others at me. The letter, Rikka getting her Chuni from Yuuta, it really took away from the enjoyment value. 3/5.

The first few episodes were quite funny, but the middle and ending was not as strong. 6/10
Dec 24, 2012 6:39 AM

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Well i have to say i feel kind of glad it had a little drama and relationship stuff. Others got annoyed by the not all happy moe time moments but i was kind of relieved that there was a small plot to follow than just watching an anime that had nothing more to say than "look how moe adorable i am".
So for me the show got little better after some episodes went by.
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Overall I LOVED Chuunibyou! Last Episode was a bit fast paced but overall alright. This video shows my full thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9amZYf4CeA&list=UU7Inoagi_vb4xReyfSa_C5w&index=1
Dec 24, 2012 9:01 AM

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Nice ending. The show overall was good for me.
Dec 24, 2012 9:44 AM

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Omg, what a bunch of cuties! I smiled through the whole show.
I feel like something is still missing (other than the kiss), but I loved the ending and the narrator's message. I don't get why you guys are arguing about that, by the way. It's not like Rikka is insane: she's perfectly aware of reality, she just feels happy living in her fantasy world...

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Dec 24, 2012 10:33 AM
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Despite the ending, it's still just like Yuuta said, "Chuunibyou is still embarrassing". I'm kind of having mixed reactions regarding Rikka going back to her chuunibyou self, but i'm pretty much satisfied with the final ep. Good comedy overall.

8/10.
Dec 24, 2012 10:35 AM

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Good ending.

Couldnt expect this kind of ending from how the first episode played out.

Sanae with her hair down was great.

Nibutani is still my fav
Dec 24, 2012 12:56 PM

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lol no more kyoani for me

3/10
Dec 24, 2012 6:58 PM

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Really sweet and touching ending, was quite a nice finish of the whole series, like the whole anime in general, it did miss a couple points to make it more successful for me but it was still worth the watch! A Very Good Anime in general! 8/10
Dec 24, 2012 9:50 PM

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Weak and predictable ending, but at least it spare me from watching toradora all over again.

Oh and while It was regrettable that the side casts(NiseMori Summer) didn't have more time in the spotlight or that the story would just focus on Rikka... Yuuta sucks C: I still like this anime in general, 8/10
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Its a good show. Really sad though in the end they didnt kiss. Hope there will be a 2nd season
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So just thought I would share with you guys some initials stats coming in.

Fall 2012 Preliminary First Volume Sales. Topping the list of all the anime this fall is:

14,458 *1 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/19

Anime of the season: confirmed!
Dec 25, 2012 6:29 AM

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fun yet touching... good way to start my christmas morning
Dec 25, 2012 12:45 PM

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lol no more kyoani for me

3/10
I know I shouldn't actually bother to ask, but please people, give arguments!
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Naxrrhid said:
So just thought I would share with you guys some initials stats coming in.

Fall 2012 Preliminary First Volume Sales. Topping the list of all the anime this fall is:

14,458 *1 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/19

Anime of the season: confirmed! S2 of anime confirmed.
That is quite impressive but I fixed something in your writing.

That holds true.

It's good cause needs more Sanae background.

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Nice end. It was predictable? Yes it was. And so what? The show was good. Funny, well-made but not over-cute (like many Kyoani shows). I'm glad there was also little bit deeper thoughts. I am fully satisfied.

This is my second fav show of the season.

Dec 25, 2012 10:46 PM
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It's very funny anime and touching tooo....
I like it, cannot wait for second seasion...
i give 9/10 for this anime...
Dec 25, 2012 10:56 PM

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Amazing series those scenes by the water were gorgeous.Very nice balance of comedy and drama
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I haven't watched that much anime, but this series really struck a chord with me, and I'm glad I found out about it. Recently, I've spent a lot of time thinking back to my high school days, and those feelings of discovery and excitement that seem to be just memories now... Because of that, maybe Chuunibyou got to me so much.

The last episode had a bit of a drama overdose, but that doesn't mean it wasn't great.

Personal highlights:

Yuuta doing an overnight time-trial to save the girl he loves is a bit of a cyclist's ultimate fantasy, I thought it was awesome. Yes, he should have asked someone for a lift, but really, who says he was thinking rationally at that point?

The scenes by the water - great, and the animation for the entire show is flawless in my opinion.

They managed not to abandon comedy completely ("Grandma, get the gun..."), and that's good because I think this is the funniest anime I've ever seen, especially during the first half.

What I didn't like:

That narrator bit felt somewhat unnecessary. Why not use one of the main characters' voices instead?

I was not entirely satisfied with the ending, it wasn't totally conclusive. After accepting her father's death, Rikka goes back to being Chuunibyou, only now it's different... how exactly? If she's exactly the same as before, doesn't that negate the character arc? I know that's not what the writers meant to suggest, but I would've liked a longer epilogue just to make things a bit clearer. Does anyone know if there is going to any form of sequel?


All in all, great anime. It managed to avoid many boring clichés, with a "normal-guy" MC that still breaks the mould, and with (thank God!) non-harem romance. And by the end, it was truly touching. I spent the day after the last episode simply thinking back and feeling both sad and happy that I got to watch this. Maybe I'm weird, but aren't we all?
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The episode was good in its execution, although the impact was severely hurt by the rushed pacing of this and the previous episode. (4/5)

The series overall was too slow in the beginning and too rushed at the end. The slice-of-life moments got tedious and repetitve somewhere around episode 4, and an earlier transition to plot would have helped a lot. It also doesn't help that two of the characters in this character-driven anime were at best annoying for the entire first half: Nibutani and Dekomori; then Kumin becomes less and less likeable in the second half when she was amazing for the first few episodes.

While introducing backstory and plot helped pull the series together, it was too little, too late. Ultimately, the only part of this anime that was done well was the relationship between Yuuta and Rikka. If it had focused more on this and made it all happen earlier and at a more manageable pace, it would have been much better. As it is now, a fairy messy story whose most enjoyable qualities were its cliche slapstick humor and the nice production values, I feel a bit disappointed that it did not end up as good as it could have been. Condensing plot and pushing it back to fit into the last three episodes does not a good anime make when the characters are not likeable enough and the humor is not funny enough. (6/10) because I'm feeling generous.
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ROOMANTICE ENDING ~~ One of da best ending ever >.<
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I love this series. Had me laughing from the first episode and tugged at my heartstrings in the ending. I had a 10 for it from the start, and after the last few episodes, it kind of went down to 9. Then I remember how I love it so much with the comedy and Chuunibyou and just everything so I'm giving it a 10. :D

Totally agreed with the part with no kiss scene. T_T

KyoAni, first Oreki and Chitanda with no kiss, now Yuuta and Rikka. ;____;

Can't believe it ended so soon. When the light novel gets a translation, definitely reading it. :D


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This did not even feel like a final episode...It left me crackin with laughter..
Its 420 out there somewhere.


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KyoAni are trolls. :I

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8th grader syndrome, more like 8th grader romance. :P
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