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SetsukoHara said: InfiniteDestiny said: Takana_no_Hana said: Btw, If he has sex already, it would make his image incredibly bad ... cause hottie play boy doesn't really need development ... Then You have a bad image of someone because he already had sex. lolwhut?! Simply confirmed facts, and let them apply to the persons perspective of bad image. |
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| goddammit, i thought he was bad enough for kissing every other girl in school, but now yamato, to me, really is just a playboy man-whore -__- the fact that he's dirty as dirt, while mei is squeaky clean, just really hits me :/ who's to say that he didnt also have sex with all those other girls he kissed?? GAAAAH, yamato is gonna have to do alot for mei to make me easy with him again and aiko is being such a BIOTCH, but im sure she'll ease up later on also funny how she's talking about winning yamato when she just had sex with the other guy xD |
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| pretty decent episode. a couple already and barely the 3rd episode, shocking really. good though. although they seem to be having problems already, mostly because of yamato, but all in all its getting to be a pretty good watch. wondering what more development is gonna happen. and also, is any one else feel like its gonna be somewhat like Bokura ga Ita ?? |
| 'What we learned as children, that one plus one equals two, we know to be false. One plus one equals one. We even have a word for when you, plus another, equals one. That word is love.' ~ The Buddha |
| Wasn't as good as the two episodes before it but it did get a few characters' background stories into play. |
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| IMO Yamato didn't have sex with Aiko, and that she is just saying that to piss her off. You can clearly see this because Aiko is annoyed that Yamato is getting close with Aiko. |
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kaykenner54 said: I'm really shock that so many people dislike Yamato. I thought he was one of the most nicest characters in the anime and manga. Anyways I enjoyed this episode. The only problem I have is that Yamato and Mei started dating pretty fast. I read the manga, but the anime seems go through events so fast for some reason. Their relationship develops much nicer in the manga, and the anime is not doing a very good job of portraying that, but its doing a decent enough job that I still want to watch it and I still like it. Other people probably don't see it that way though. Good episode though. |
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| Not sure why Yamato is getting so much hate. Because he's not a squeaky clean virgin like Mei? Yamato is extremely kind. You can see that from how he interacts with others and most importantly, how he reached out and was friendly to Mei. I think that's important. More important than what he has done with girls before. Yeah, he's kind of a playboy. He flirts, has kissed girls, and has *gasp* had sex. Okay, so I know you guys may find this hard to believe, but real teenagers actually do those things. And I think it makes Yamato more realistic. It's not like he's doing those things while he's with Mei. He genuinely likes her. Also, I really hate the fact that they made "fat" Aiko skinnier in the anime. Like, she wasn't fat at all. She was really perfect size. |
EllieLovesStarsOct 21, 2012 5:57 PM
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| The cat. Symbolism. My god. I just needed to point that out lol. |
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| It's good they're not rushing the events too much. I'm predicting in the next episode that it will show Mei's situation of getting bullied. |
| This show feels like the animated fantasies of a fat ugly girl who shops at Hot Topic. It even has Skrillex. Wub Wub indeed. |
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McRib said: This show feels like the animated fantasies of a fat ugly girl who shops at Hot Topic. It even has Skrillex. Wub Wub indeed. To me most shoujo animes and mangas are fantasies girls wish they were in. A hot popular guy(s) who is suddenly interested in you for no real reason. The guy kisses you and even go out with you in public when you know that none of this happens in real life. Of course I'm not saying all shoujo is bad. |
| I also found it peculiar that the manga version of her "before and after" self was a bit censored. Even the "after" self was missing the pot belly and the stretch marks weren't so emphasized. I think it would have been more reasonable for the shoujo crowd for them to be a little more realistic there. That said, her character was otherwise realistic in the way that something like her personal appearance could affect her emotions and behavior so much at her age. Also, the anime version of her in the "before" was cuter than the "after" to me. :p The male main does seem like somewhat of a manwhore from an anime perspective. This is the first time I have heard of a male lead actually kissing other girls or even having sex (or "erotic stuff" depending on translation) with them before meeting the female lead. I don't think that this is a big deal though from a real-life perspective because teenagers probably have sex and kiss for flimsier reasons than that these days. Furthermore, you have to keep in mind that he was probably single or maybe even temporarily dating some of these girls when he was doing these things with them. Not abnormal for someone his age - but very abnormal for anime where people this age normally seem to all be virgins. |
| The pacing in this episode was great. Characterization was nice. Hope they can keep it up without just devolving into melodrama. |
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| I have a feeling that more i know about Yamato the more i hate him.If he really slept with her, i hate him even more.Aiko is too pathetic, i don't even have words. Oh, and this: GaZsTiC said: Everyone is a Whore: The Animation. Of course i don't dislike it.Its just imo getting a little worse IMO.Maybe because annoying characters (besides Mei <3) |
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| man MC, calm yourself brother. kissing people left and right. wtf. |
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| What a man-slut, lol. Ah, not sure if I like this anime yet. Usually I like romances for the first couple of eps and then they get slow and boring. |
| don't know if I'm the first one saying this. but he really needs a haircut. he looks horrible with that long hair of his. this anime is definitely nowhere near being the best anime out there right now... overrated... for now |
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| Having not read the manga, I pretty much dislike Aiko right now.. -.- But the scenes of Yamato and Mei were cute^^ <3 But I do wonder if he really has done "ecchi things" with other girls.. o: |
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| Ugh they glossed over Aiko's past just so they could add some superfluous crap? Aiko's past is really fucking important and explains the whole reason why she's so bitter. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
EllieLovesStars said: Not sure why Yamato is getting so much hate. Because he's not a squeaky clean virgin like Mei? Yamato is extremely kind. You can see that from how he interacts with others and most importantly, how he reached out and was friendly to Mei. I think that's important. More important than what he has done with girls before. Yeah, he's kind of a playboy. He flirts, has kissed girls, and has *gasp* had sex. Okay, so I know you guys may find this hard to believe, but real teenagers actually do those things. And I think it makes Yamato more realistic. It's not like he's doing those things while he's with Mei. He genuinely likes her. Also, I really hate the fact that they made "fat" Aiko skinnier in the anime. Like, she wasn't fat at all. She was really perfect size. This x 1000000000 Seriously, teenagers having sex isn't exactly the most uncommon thing in the world. It is uncommon in anime though and that's why I like Sukitte. In most of the shoujo I read, the heroine is the male lead's first everything. It's good to see someone more realistic who has actually kissed girls and had sex before. He's not cheating on Mei, so I'm not quite sure why people are making such big deal out of it. |
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| Rivalry building up. funny enough aiko sleeps with the other guy while she love yamato. using him most likely, anyway another good episode the cute cat deserves a mention. |
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| Sweet and heart warming episode Just hope that girl will not ruin their relationship next ep But, that reason to have sex is terrible. She's too consumed with her own "beauty" world |
-KamioRika- said: I actually don't care if certain characters have had sex or not. Having said that, I do care about the manner in which one has sex. Casual sex (if this is even the case here) is something I frown upon. I believe sex should be performed by people who actually love each other. I know everyone has their own morals that they abide by and casual sex is not uncommon....but it doesn't mean I need to like it. I think this is part of why Yamato is being seen in less than favorable light. With proper character development though, that view can change.EllieLovesStars said: Not sure why Yamato is getting so much hate. Because he's not a squeaky clean virgin like Mei? Yamato is extremely kind. You can see that from how he interacts with others and most importantly, how he reached out and was friendly to Mei. I think that's important. More important than what he has done with girls before. Yeah, he's kind of a playboy. He flirts, has kissed girls, and has *gasp* had sex. Okay, so I know you guys may find this hard to believe, but real teenagers actually do those things. And I think it makes Yamato more realistic. It's not like he's doing those things while he's with Mei. He genuinely likes her. Also, I really hate the fact that they made "fat" Aiko skinnier in the anime. Like, she wasn't fat at all. She was really perfect size. This x 1000000000 Seriously, teenagers having sex isn't exactly the most uncommon thing in the world. It is uncommon in anime though and that's why I like Sukitte. In most of the shoujo I read, the heroine is the male lead's first everything. It's good to see someone more realistic who has actually kissed girls and had sex before. He's not cheating on Mei, so I'm not quite sure why people are making such big deal out of it. |
| Though it didn't quite reach the quality of the first two episodes, this was pretty good, as it introduced what seems to be a significant character, while also providing a heightened level of insight into Yamato and his flawed characterization. The slow pace of each episode is great, as it allows for a suitable amount of time dedicated to each development, rarely seeming rushed or insignificant. Emotionally painful complications have already appeared in the story, and I expect they'll steadily increase as it continues, since this seems destined to be an occasionally sorrowful, tumultuous relationship. It's pretty great that Nakanishi and Asami are in a relationship, and I'm hoping that it remains relatively constant in it's development. This episode particularly illustrated the superficiality and cruelty of others, which was depicted in Aiko's cold interactions with Mei, as this has been a recurring theme throughout the show. There's an evident, ironic dichotomy between Aiko's harsh, unfair criticism towards Mei, in which she threateningly told Mei not to date Yamato if she doesn't love him, and her own situation with her current boyfriend. As such, I really sympathize with said boyfriend, particularly following that final scene. It certainly appears as though this episode establishes her as the primary rival. Mei is a great, incredibly likable character. Although she shouldn't attempt to run away at the slightest mention of a seemingly worrying revelation, I quite like the realistic portrayal of the fragility of her emotions. Yamato's a pretty good character as well, particularly following this episode, as I thought he was rather shallow before now. As such, I enjoyed the slightly nuanced insight into the reckless passivity of his former self. Following this sequence and the words spoken by Yamato, it's understandable why he'd suddenly possess the naive inclination to please everyone, including Aiko. I really like that Yamato's characterization has added complexities and noticeable flaws, since this effectively differentiates itself from the usual tendencies for a romance of this nature to portray the male lead as someone who's relatively "perfect". I certainly don't feel that the possibility of him having had sex in the past lessens his character or diminishes the strength of the relationship he has with Mei, as his emotions are, more than likely, real, and deeper than those he's felt with others. As such, the slow development of their relationship is necessary to properly indicate that his romantic interest in Mei isn't some fleeting emotion. The production values, though inconsistent, are quite strong, especially the minimalistic direction, as it often elevates the material beyond it's seeming simplicity. I also love the music; the dramatic piano is quite nice, though occasionally overplayed, but the understated quality of the other selections works extremely well, complementing the slightly bittersweet nature of the story. All in all, Sukitte, despite a somewhat lesser episode, still manages to thoroughly impress. This is easily one of the better shows of the season, and I'm really looking forward to how chaotically the story will develop as it continues. |
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| That bitch Aiko! She's now Mei's rival. |
Marhuto said: That bitch Aiko! She's now Mei's rival. Not really. Remember Aiko actually has a boyfriend now (her bowling partner) and to the best of my recollection may even be living with him. Aiko is driven more by her belief that Mei isn't good enough for Yamato, than by any belief that she can take Mei's place. As for Yamato having a sexual encounter with Aiko, it would be a rare (or hormonally challenged) 15 year old boy who wouldn't leap at the opportunity when a moderately attractive girl came up and asked him to have sex with her. More important may be what some of his motivation was at the time, and how he has treated Aiko afterwards (although to my mind Aiko's boyfriend deserves the real major chops for how he deals with her past problems). This show strikes me as being pretty realistic in how teenagers actually interact (based on long years of observation in a high school), and deals with some pretty meaty issues. As to whether Yamato is a playboy: watch Aishiteruze Baby! if you want to see a real playboy mc (at least until Kippei gets his act together)! |
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-KamioRika- said: EllieLovesStars said: Not sure why Yamato is getting so much hate. Because he's not a squeaky clean virgin like Mei? Yamato is extremely kind. You can see that from how he interacts with others and most importantly, how he reached out and was friendly to Mei. I think that's important. More important than what he has done with girls before. Yeah, he's kind of a playboy. He flirts, has kissed girls, and has *gasp* had sex. Okay, so I know you guys may find this hard to believe, but real teenagers actually do those things. And I think it makes Yamato more realistic. It's not like he's doing those things while he's with Mei. He genuinely likes her. Also, I really hate the fact that they made "fat" Aiko skinnier in the anime. Like, she wasn't fat at all. She was really perfect size. This x 1000000000 Seriously, teenagers having sex isn't exactly the most uncommon thing in the world. It is uncommon in anime though and that's why I like Sukitte. In most of the shoujo I read, the heroine is the male lead's first everything. It's good to see someone more realistic who has actually kissed girls and had sex before. He's not cheating on Mei, so I'm not quite sure why people are making such big deal out of it. But having sex with many people while being a teenager isn't a good thing you know. Especially he had sex with a girl in the past and ran away, denied his responsibility and make another girl friend ... How do you sure that he won't dumb Mei just like the previous girl after having sex with her and then find another ... I won't criticize you for liking Sukitte, but I don't like the characters much. Especially their developments. |
| The third episode passed some important messages. Example, the one with the make-up case, how girls are trying to build an image of the ideal girlfriend towards the one they desire. Or, how someone gotta adapt themselves to a certain environment in order to be liked. However, I still do not like Yamato much. I mean, that girl came and asked him out of nowhere to have sex with him and he did it. What kind of pity is that? And I do not think Yamato is too naive to get his kindness used. Then again... We deal with immature teenagers. And finally it is explained why Yamato is drawn to Mei. Not a bad episode, at least it doesn't pick the silly-innocent side of school shoujo. |
| Another Bitch appeared (from at least what this episode has showed ) was alright up till those last few mins |
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Takana_no_Hana said: -KamioRika- said: EllieLovesStars said: Not sure why Yamato is getting so much hate. Because he's not a squeaky clean virgin like Mei? Yamato is extremely kind. You can see that from how he interacts with others and most importantly, how he reached out and was friendly to Mei. I think that's important. More important than what he has done with girls before. Yeah, he's kind of a playboy. He flirts, has kissed girls, and has *gasp* had sex. Okay, so I know you guys may find this hard to believe, but real teenagers actually do those things. And I think it makes Yamato more realistic. It's not like he's doing those things while he's with Mei. He genuinely likes her. Also, I really hate the fact that they made "fat" Aiko skinnier in the anime. Like, she wasn't fat at all. She was really perfect size. This x 1000000000 Seriously, teenagers having sex isn't exactly the most uncommon thing in the world. It is uncommon in anime though and that's why I like Sukitte. In most of the shoujo I read, the heroine is the male lead's first everything. It's good to see someone more realistic who has actually kissed girls and had sex before. He's not cheating on Mei, so I'm not quite sure why people are making such big deal out of it. But having sex with many people while being a teenager isn't a good thing you know. Especially he had sex with a girl in the past and ran away, denied his responsibility and make another girl friend ... How do you sure that he won't dumb Mei just like the previous girl after having sex with her and then find another ... I won't criticize you for liking Sukitte, but I don't like the characters much. Especially their developments. Of course it's not a good thing. That's what I like about it. Yamato isn't this 100% perfect male lead. He's made mistakes in the past, he isn't squeaky clean, he actually has flaws. No, having casual sex as a teenager (or really at all, imo) is not a good thing, but it makes Yamato more believable to me. |
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EllieLovesStars said: Of course it's not a good thing. That's what I like about it. Yamato isn't this 100% perfect male lead. He's made mistakes in the past, he isn't squeaky clean, he actually has flaws. No, having casual sex as a teenager (or really at all, imo) is not a good thing, but it makes Yamato more believable to me. Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. I guess it's because they can self-insert. |
| It feels sad that people are comparing Yamato to Makato Itou from School Days. |
| I feel like Yamato genuinely tries to be a good person. that, combined with his "good looks" makes him seem like a ladies man. if he really did kiss nearly every girl in the school, I can see why ppl are skeptical of him. he needs to realize there's a such thing as too "nice". Aiko's kinda pathetic, but then again peer pressure will do that to you, especcialy if you're a teen. |
EllieLovesStars said: Of course it's not a good thing. That's what I like about it. Yamato isn't this 100% perfect male lead. He's made mistakes in the past, he isn't squeaky clean, he actually has flaws. No, having casual sex as a teenager (or really at all, imo) is not a good thing, but it makes Yamato more believable to me. That would just describe how shallow he is, it makes yamato more believable to me as well as a play boy, he kissed every girls in the school, having sex with some of them, then met Mei the day after, and the following day he kissed her then tell her that he loved her. So would you believe in what he said? Mistakes about the past lol? It seems like he hasn't even realized his mistakes yet(he is still randomly kissing girl). What makes you think he's really in love with Mei, I think he sees her as another girl he plays with. SetsukoHara said: Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. I guess it's because they can self-insert. That depends on the differences in culture, sex isn't a normal thing especially when you're in a big traditional family (and western =/= asia). I'm fine with it, but as I said if he is fine doing it with every girls, then Mei will just be another sex friend to him, it doesn't make any sense to their lover relationship. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 23, 2012 1:59 PM
Takana_no_Hana said: SetsukoHara said: Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. I guess it's because they can self-insert. That depends on the differences in culture, sex isn't a normal thing especially when you're in a big traditional family (and western =/= asia). Even some anime viewer in western countries are hating on Yamato even though we actually don't know much about him. Did he really kiss every girl in his school, isn't that just a rumor? |
SetsukoHara said: Takana_no_Hana said: SetsukoHara said: Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. I guess it's because they can self-insert. That depends on the differences in culture, sex isn't a normal thing especially when you're in a big traditional family (and western =/= asia). Even some anime viewer in western countries are hating on Yamato even though we actually don't know much about him. Did he really kiss every girl in his school, isn't that just a rumor? He casually kissed Mei even though he knows nothing about her, and look at what he had done with Aiko, well rumors have to be based on certain events. Perhaps maybe not all girls in his school (lmao it's obviously exaggerated), but with many girls. You cant deny he flirts the girls and often goes to goukon. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 23, 2012 2:54 PM
| This series has serious execution problems to the point that every so called "romantic" moment feels like a "casual sex and kiss" moment. The way Mei is portrayed, she seems like a lifeless object who can be used just for kissing and getting high scores in a bowling game. For those who have seen KNT, compare and contrast the hesitation shown by Mei and Kuronuma. See the difference? Maybe I am reading too much into things or maybe this stuff really isn't my type but this anime just doesn't feel right. I feel sorry for those who pick up this series as a "Kimi No Todoke" recommendation... |
Takana_no_Hana said: SetsukoHara said: Takana_no_Hana said: SetsukoHara said: Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. I guess it's because they can self-insert. That depends on the differences in culture, sex isn't a normal thing especially when you're in a big traditional family (and western =/= asia). Even some anime viewer in western countries are hating on Yamato even though we actually don't know much about him. Did he really kiss every girl in his school, isn't that just a rumor? He casually kissed Mei even though he knows nothing about her, and look at what he had done with Aiko, well rumors have to be based on certain events. Perhaps maybe not all girls in his school (lmao it's obviously exaggerated), but with many girls. You cant deny he flirts the girls and often goes to goukon. For Mei, he knows he is in love with her, and he actually tries to create a relationship with her, that's why he kissed her. Aiko's case is different, it really seems he was trying to comfort her, I don't think he felt anything for her. He probably flirted a lot before, but since he knows Mei, he didn't really flirt with anyone else. He even dumped his first crush. HibiChouchou said: I feel sorry for them too, Sakurasou and Tonari are much better. I think that Tonari is better, but Sakurasou isn't. |
SetsukoHaraOct 23, 2012 4:20 PM
HibiChouchou said: I feel sorry for them too, Sakurasou and Tonari are much better. I agree with Tonari but Sakurasou, really? ._. Lol Isn't that an ecchi harem? Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. No. I prefer an MC that doesn't go around and do every girl. |
meepsheep said: Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. No. I prefer an MC that doesn't go around and do every girl. He doesn't go around and do every girl. As far as I know (and I'm currently reading the manga), Aiko is the only girl who he has had sex with. And that's because her felt bad for her and she pretty much came up to him asking for it. Even if he is a bit of a playboy, there is this pretty cool thing called "character development". And yes, I know he's not just using Mei because this is a shoujo manga and they are the leads. |
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HibiChouchou said: meepsheep said: HibiChouchou said: I feel sorry for them too, Sakurasou and Tonari are much better. I agree with Tonari but Sakurasou, really? ._. Lol Isn't that an ecchi harem? Most anime watcher prefer the usual virgin MC who complains because he is so average. No. I prefer an MC that doesn't go around and do every girl. Did you watch Sakurasou episode 3? SetsukoHara said: For Mei, he knows he is in love with her, and he actually tries to create a relationship with her, that's why he kissed her. Aiko's case is different, it really seems he was trying to comfort her, I don't think he felt anything for her. He probably flirted a lot before, but since he knows Mei, he didn't really flirt with anyone else. He even dumped his first crush. Now I feel sorry for his first crush ;_;. "since he knows Mei", he has known Mei for only 2days. Try to create a relationship = forcefully kiss her lolololol. Hey girl lemme let's create a relationship with me, now kiss me first, No that doesn't sound right. He even dumped his first crush. It's like I've found another girl I like, so bye bye my first crush. Key word: another. He changes girl friend like changing his T-shirt. He can do that with every girls. sanjayts said: This series has serious execution problems to the point that every so called "romantic" moment feels like a "casual sex and kiss" moment. The way Mei is portrayed, she seems like a lifeless object who can be used just for kissing and getting high scores in a bowling game. For those who have seen KNT, compare and contrast the hesitation shown by Mei and Kuronuma. See the difference? Maybe I am reading too much into things or maybe this stuff really isn't my type but this anime just doesn't feel right. I feel sorry for those who pick up this series as a "Kimi No Todoke" recommendation... Shallow characters are shallow. Just put a bunch of kissing scenes in and you will have what people call "romance". Really, it seemed like to me that he had been talking to her and trying to get to know her for a while after the whole stalker incident, but I could be wrong. And if he finds a girl who he actually likes, like Mei, then why should he stick around his old crush? I agree about the forced kissing though. That bothers me a bit. Of course, when Haru forcibly kissed Shizuku and when Nanami forcibly kissed Tomoe, I didn't mind. >.> Probably because I like those couples better, but... uh *cough* Overall, Sukitte is definitely, in my opinion, the most generic and bland shoujo of the season. It doesn't even come close to touching Tonari or Kamisama. It's not as enjoyable and the characters are no where near as loveable. But it's shoujo nonetheless, which means it get's an obligatory watch from me. That's not to say I dislike it, it's just pretty "meh" for me so far. It's being overshadowed terribly by Tonari and Kamisama. |
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EllieLovesStars said: I understand how people might see this flaw as being more believable, but there are plenty of people in real life who don't have casual sex...why should that type of person be any less believable? (This isn't an argument but more of an observation)Takana_no_Hana said: Of course it's not a good thing. That's what I like about it. Yamato isn't this 100% perfect male lead. He's made mistakes in the past, he isn't squeaky clean, he actually has flaws. No, having casual sex as a teenager (or really at all, imo) is not a good thing, but it makes Yamato more believable to me. meepsheep said: I wouldn't classify Sakurasou as an ecchi harem based on the 3 episodes I have seen so far. At most only 2 people like the main character. You should watch more, it might surprise you. I can't tell you if the overall show will be good or bad though...have to see how it develops.HibiChouchou said: I feel sorry for them too, Sakurasou and Tonari are much better. I agree with Tonari but Sakurasou, really? ._. Lol Isn't that an ecchi harem? |
meepsheep said: HibiChouchou said: I feel sorry for them too, Sakurasou and Tonari are much better. I agree with Tonari but Sakurasou, really? ._. Lol Isn't that an ecchi harem? There isn't much of ecchi & I would not call it a harem... yet. But it is quite funny like Tonari. |
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