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Jun 2, 2012 10:10 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Finally, the epic space battles that I've been waiting for! Very much reminds me of Vandread.
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Jun 2, 2012 10:12 AM
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Also, a prediction:



Can't wait!
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Jun 2, 2012 10:35 AM
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That was nice episode - good dose of action but also some thought here and there (what will Marika do in the future and so on).
I liked design of other ships - not much this hunter ship (still it was fine), but pirate one looked like they should (collection of parts merged into one creature).

For some reason during that shuttle flight I was thinking where this time is Serenity Royal Family hidden ;) but maybe this time they decided to stay out of this, or are doing other stuff.

And that hologram guy - I really don't want him to be Marika's dad, as somehow it seems to be overused theme but ok, if they play this right it will be fine.
Jun 2, 2012 11:03 AM
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Dear lord those ships are huge and made short work of Big Catch.

I think that man is Marika's father, there's no other explanation for this.


Jun 2, 2012 11:25 AM
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Yeah the ships is really hugs, probably not her father, didn't Marika father died by food poison?
There is no way it could be her father.

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Jun 2, 2012 11:46 AM
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Blackbird said:
[...] probably not her father, didn't Marika father died by food poison?
There is no way it could be her father.


Real pirates have stomachs made of steel. They don't die out of food poisoning. ;)

Marika mentioned in the episode that Ririka's made a big ship piloting licence so my guess is that the masked guy is Marika's father and Ririka's piloting that ship.
Jun 2, 2012 11:48 AM
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Yeah the ships is really hugs, probably not her father, didn't Marika father died by food poison?
There is no way it could be her father.


He could have feinted death to protect Marika or pass down the Bentanmaru to her.


Jun 2, 2012 11:58 AM
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> He could have feinted death to protect Marika or pass down the Bentanmaru to her.

Yeah. Most probably he just wanted to test if she's fitting to became his successor
Jun 2, 2012 12:00 PM
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Whoa, some action! Nice to see (even though the show did very well so far w/o it)

Also, that Pirate Hunter ship... looks like it's got a whole lot of experimental tech on it... who is it, and wehere did they get it? And that new ship... Looks like it can pack quite a punch.

I liked the design of the Big Catch. Only thing I missed this ep.... NEEDS MOAR AI-CHAN!
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Jun 2, 2012 12:14 PM
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
> He could have feinted death to protect Marika or pass down the Bentanmaru to her.

Yeah. Most probably he just wanted to test if she's fitting to became his successor


That may be possible, but then again this anime is getting serious, if Marika's mom is part of the pirate hunters and her dad is alive and also with the pirate hunters, then there is gonna be some betrayal.
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Lol Pirate hunter ship can use Trans-arn :D
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Jun 2, 2012 12:24 PM

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Nasty001 said:
That may be possible, but then again this anime is getting serious, if Marika's mom is part of the pirate hunters and her dad is alive and also with the pirate hunters, then there is gonna be some betrayal.


But from what I undestoood is that Marika (and other pirates maybe) were bait to lure out that Hunter Ship and to fight with it by using that thing. It seemed that Kane know that this will happen.
So I don't think there will be any betrayal - family reunion perhaps :)

Plus that protecting thing - giving her ship, with skilled and dependable crew is better way of protecting her than leaving her at school.
Jun 2, 2012 1:06 PM
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awesome, this show is showing its potential.

i want a season 2 now
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Jun 2, 2012 1:30 PM

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did those guys on board big catch die wow this show got darker
Jun 2, 2012 1:33 PM

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Why are interesting battles like these almost at the end of the series? Up until now they didn't have many of them.
Terrible cliffhanger...
And I think that Kane knows something..






Jun 2, 2012 3:07 PM
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Engage the enemy more closely.
Jun 2, 2012 3:44 PM

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Best space battle so far for the show.
Jun 2, 2012 5:36 PM

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LOL. Epicness. The episode was over before I knew it!! D:

The pirate hunters' ship is cool. XD
Jun 2, 2012 5:41 PM
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The revival of the ancient Pirate Council is pretty much as close to a pirate "nation" as possible. Seems that this crisis just leveled up.
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Jun 2, 2012 6:32 PM

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I thought Kraken is supposed to be black with tentacles, not white and running like frantic on fire :D

Rather than Marika's father ? What about Jenny's uncle or that politician who planned on coup ? They're bitter on Marika, has the resource and access to experimental military tech
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Hot damn, this episode felt like it lasted a second. So awesome!
That pirate hunter ship is like the Alucard of spaceships or something. Things are gonna get crazy, and I don't want this to end! ;_;
Jun 2, 2012 7:27 PM
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goddamn. crazy ships appearing now. getting even better
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I guess this masked guy is the same guy who was shown way back in ep20, which presumably is Marika father. And with a hint from that episode "Marika is being protected" plus a hint from this episode "The time has come!" which will lead this, below.

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The revival of the ancient Pirate Council is pretty much as close to a pirate "nation" as possible. Seems that this crisis just leveled up.
Pretty much this. A coup d'état of space pirate, my god I can't wait to see this shit.


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Seeing the summary of novel (no spoiler), this arc seems to be original anime story.

If they want to make sequel later, probably there wont be a Darth Vader moment ^^;
Jun 2, 2012 10:31 PM

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it's nice to see how everyone has grown since the 1st episode, hope this get a second season.

anyway, boy Marika is in some hot water those ship look beast cant wait for the next ep.
Jun 3, 2012 4:15 AM

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Pretty nice episode the Silver Fox was certainly a mens ship with the pin up's hanging around and it's weapons where insane seems like the Silver Fox and the Big Catch are specifically made for harsh battles and missions.
While Marika's vessel seems to be more focused to solve fights without having to use there cannons.

I have a feeling that we know the woman how is in charge of that mysterious ship since they where specifically avoiding her face.
I was thinking of Ririka for a short moment but that just seems to far fetched.
The other ship being piloted by Marika's father also seems to be impossible why would he attack other pirates and where would he have been hiding for the last few years?
Further more why would ha attack his own daughter?
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Only had to wait 20 episodes but the show warmed up. Finally, real space battles. Looking forward to next episode.


Jun 3, 2012 6:24 AM

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finally!! love this episode. shit just got real :D
Jun 3, 2012 7:09 AM

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Wow is that Trans Am? :D
That was some scary ship, and here I thought it will transform into a robot.. :D
Jun 3, 2012 7:29 AM

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Aversa said:
I was thinking of Ririka for a short moment but that just seems to far fetched.
The other ship being piloted by Marika's father also seems to be impossible why would he attack other pirates and where would he have been hiding for the last few years?
Further more why would ha attack his own daughter?
How about you think of it the other way around? What if he was aiming at pirate's hunter instead? There was no telling that he was aiming at Marika ship.


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Jun 3, 2012 7:48 AM
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Siva said:
Aversa said:
I was thinking of Ririka for a short moment but that just seems to far fetched.
The other ship being piloted by Marika's father also seems to be impossible why would he attack other pirates and where would he have been hiding for the last few years?
Further more why would ha attack his own daughter?
How about you think of it the other way around? What if he was aiming at pirate's hunter instead? There was no telling that he was aiming at Marika ship.

Also, as far as I can tell the Bentenmaru hasn't yet been attacked. In fact, I don't think the Bentenmaru has yet fired a shot. As far as I can tell once the Big Catch deviated from their agreement and ignored her order to stay behind her Marika seemed to back off from the entire thing.
Jun 3, 2012 8:07 AM
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Pretty nice episode the Silver Fox was certainly a mens ship with the pin up's hanging around and it's weapons where insane seems like the Silver Fox and the Big Catch are specifically made for harsh battles and missions.
While Marika's vessel seems to be more focused to solve fights without having to use there cannons.
No, their weapons are there to fight with, but how a ship is armed (and armored) depends upon many factors - and among them cost is a significant limiter to be sure. Also, hanging a lot of heavy weapons and armor on your ship limits your ships other capabilities. The captains of the Silver Fox and Big Catch clearly wanted to be able to duke it out with, or at least intimidate, battleship class warships, while the Bentenmaru's former captain wanted to be able to (or accepted that he was limited to) outgun what he couldn't outrun and outrun what he couldn't outgun. Marika just happens to be very good and avoiding a knock down drag out type fight. The Bentenmaru is clearly able to outfight "escort" class warships as we've seen in many previous episodes, Marika has just avoided pressing for a kill as she was able to accomplish her objectives without doing so.

Warhship classification is a messy topic because the meanings of the terms change all the time with technology and doctrine, but generally anything considered a cruiser class has usually been a ship primarily meant to be used for things other than fleet actions.

This wiki entry actually has a pretty decent general description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser
Jun 3, 2012 11:16 AM

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No, their weapons are there to fight with, but how a ship is armed (and armored) depends upon many factors - and among them cost is a significant limiter to be sure. Also, hanging a lot of heavy weapons and armor on your ship limits your ships other capabilities. The captains of the Silver Fox and Big Catch clearly wanted to be able to duke it out with, or at least intimidate, battleship class warships, while the Bentenmaru's former captain wanted to be able to (or accepted that he was limited to) outgun what he couldn't outrun and outrun what he couldn't outgun. Marika just happens to be very good and avoiding a knock down drag out type fight. The Bentenmaru is clearly able to outfight "escort" class warships as we've seen in many previous episodes, Marika has just avoided pressing for a kill as she was able to accomplish her objectives without doing so.


I would say it's more about type of jobs they would take - if some raids than those are fine with this, while escort is assuring no one will go away the big ones are destroying those who fight.
Probably they simply don't play the "pirate show" - with 50 fleets it wouldn't be enough to play with.

On the other side Bentenmaru is operating alone, so as you wrote it has to be balanced - decent firepower and good speed should help to deal with stronger opponents or run away from those who can destroy it.

And I would say that it's this way - that new ship is targeting the Hunter.
Kane seemed to know about it and it would be at least silly, if he was onboard the ship that is main target. But using him as coordinator to deliver informations about Bentenmaru and/or fact that they've seen something suspicious is smart.
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Also, a prediction:



Can't wait!

I thought the same, but it might be Chiaki's because of his black hair.

Amazing episode, that was some epic action. That huge ship could dance like a boss!
I'm really looking forward to the next episode, the action in this one was amazing!
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Finally something happens!
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is it me or does this feel like the first season is a setup for a second season.
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Might not be for second season.
The next story arc in the novel after Cosplay Pirates is spanning 3 books, so it might not fit in the time constraint of 4-6 episodes left. Assumed that's the reason they came up with this original story.
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No, their weapons are there to fight with, but how a ship is armed (and armored) depends upon many factors - and among them cost is a significant limiter to be sure. Also, hanging a lot of heavy weapons and armor on your ship limits your ships other capabilities.

I’d say cost is a significant factor.
IINM, Bentenmaru is one of the Original Seven (seven first pirate ships registered for the privateering license during independence war). Her age is more than 120 years old.

Maybe, the type of peoples that form the first generation pirates are either former criminals, military veterans in possession of their own weapon, eccentric rich peoples longing for action, or patriots that gather all they have to fight for their country.
If the only thing the government can give them is legal acknowledgement, then their firepower would be only as much as what they can afford.

Current captain, are inheriting their ship from the former captain and I’m not sure the empire would allow them to upgrade weaponries more than what they already have. Assuming from the state of Bentenmaru's engine, there’s also possibility that the empire won’t allow them to do big overhaul (including weapon upgrade). The ship is running on borrowed life.


Extra: the preview mentioned about that cook in the restaurant under the airport. Some big guy in the pirate world ?
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Lol Pirate hunter ship can use Trans-arn :D


LOL This. I was all "TRANS-AM!!!!"

My theory:

The captain of the second ship is Marika's mom, remembering how she was applying for a "new job" in some episodes. The man is obviously a hologram because he's not wearing a normal suit even though he's outside. My guess is that it's a hologram of Marika's dad for the purpose of intimidating the enemy. Marika's father is pretty famous right? The pirate hunter probably has something to do with the death of Marika's father.
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For a second there i thought i was watching gundam(ship going all Trans-am) and TTGL(the zoom on the masked guy with his arms crossed).....this is getting more and more ridiculous.
Jun 4, 2012 11:53 PM

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Not bad for an anime only arc - otherwise series up to here has been fun
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The time has come.
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O_O!!! Shit juz got real~~
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Jun 7, 2012 7:49 AM

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Wow, finally something I've waited from this anime all along :D

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My theory:

The captain of the second ship is Marika's mom, remembering how she was applying for a "new job" in some episodes. The man is obviously a hologram because he's not wearing a normal suit even though he's outside. My guess is that it's a hologram of Marika's dad for the purpose of intimidating the enemy. Marika's father is pretty famous right? The pirate hunter probably has something to do with the death of Marika's father.

Oho, interesting theory, even though it sounds a bit unlikely =P but I like it
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I liked this episode until the whole massive warship going crazy in space part...and it seems we have Saiyans in this series with that last guy standing in space chillin'.

One of the attractive features that this anime has is the sense of realism and how everything is explained, now all that went down the pipe hole. There better be some massive tech on those ship because right now, what that ship did broke like 20 rules of physics, lol.
Jun 8, 2012 8:55 AM

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My money is on the guy being Marika's father too, the bloodline thing Kane mentioned basically guarantees it. Also: wow! To think this show could have been like this from the very start having actual fights, darn...4/5 it went by in an instant.
Jun 8, 2012 9:20 PM

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Holy shit what the hell is going on. Things just got hella intense, I am loving this new arc. The ancient Pirate's Council and that legendary cook pirate? Things are getting very interesting over here. And its cool to finally see some other pirate ships, ahh so the Bentenmaru actually ain't that big and stuff but they make it up with a legit crew.

Yeh I am thinking that masked pirate is Marika's father too and Ririka has to be involved with that ship one way or another. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of this arc will go.
Jun 15, 2012 3:06 PM

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Loved the detail at the start with that guy from the Silver Fox having ecchi posters next to his seat.
Jun 21, 2012 11:42 PM

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Well... I'm not sure how to take this sudden change of pace. ^^;

I was enjoying the pace, though I wondered what they'd do for the last few eps. Then this started, and I'm going a bit wtf, actually. It seems interesting, but... I have no idea what's going on. Kane seems to know something, and the fortune teller lady seems to guess he does. Ririka is missing, gone on a "job." Giant crazy creepy white ship goes spastic. Large tank-looking black ship just arrived... with a man straight out of Prince of Space standing on top with no space suit. >>; I hope the second ship is on Marika's side, because otherwise it'll be bad.

The Pirate Council sounds interesting, though!
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Finally we have a epic spaceship battle in the show! Hope for season 2.

BTW Captain Stone looks like Stone Cold Steve Austin XD.

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