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Aug 17, 2008 7:27 PM
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Just curious, have you ever had a paranormal experiance? If not, you believe in ghosts/spirits?

The other day I was going to my kitchen for some water. In order to get there I have to go through my living room which at the time was pitch black since no one was home. As I left the kitchen to go back to my room, I swear I saw a shadowy figure dart away from the corner of my eye. Maybe I was seeing things?

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Aug 17, 2008 7:32 PM
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I haaaatttte ghost, I do believe in them. scary stuff.
Aug 17, 2008 7:33 PM
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I always see shadows and figures when I'm home alone; and I could have sworn I saw my grandpa's spirit a few years ago. 'Course, these could be hallucinations.

I'm always terrified that some ghost will actually harm me one day...
Aug 17, 2008 7:36 PM
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I've never had any paranormal experiences involving ghosts and I seriously hope I never do ... I don't believe them per say, but I still don't like the idea of watching anything ghost-related at night on my own. It's more of me really wanting to not believe in them than not believing in them if you know what I mean ...

At the same time, I have a strange fascination with ghosts =/
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When I was around 10 or 11, I was at home by myself and I was reading something. When I looked up towards the hallway, there was a man standing there but I couldn't see what he looked like. He was this big blur of colors :\ I stood up and screamed and then he disappeared. :|

Another time when I was 13, I was walking outside my house and I passed the window to the laundry room and out of the corner of my eye there was an Amish woman loading clothes into the dryer. I backed up to the window and looked in and she was gone. I don't even get what that was all about since Amish ppl don't use dryers......

I think there was something else but I don't remember right now.
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My friends cousin claimed to have seen this ghost she named the "Bone Witch". She said that the witch appears at night in her room. She described the with as blonde with black robes and deep red eyes. Whenever she tries to sleep she always feels as she's being pinched almost all night. Repeatedly she told her parents about it but they never believed her.

My friend heard about this and went to sleep over her house one night in the same room. She completely freaked out because she was also feeling the pinch effect. She ended up sleeping in the living room.

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I have never seen a ghost and I don't believe the "experiences" that people have, but I do try to keep an open mind about it. After all, the "evidence" against them isn't very convincing.
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I have never seen a ghost and I don't believe the "experiences" that people have, but I do try to keep an open mind about it. After all, the "evidence" against them isn't very convincing.


What evidence..? >_>

If ghosts are real, then goblins are too. You don't see any goblins now do you? I rest my case.
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I do actually. My brother's best friend died over in Iraq in january and we had a get together for all of his friends and some of his family and my sister took a picture of my brother and another one of his friends and his hand was out flat open. In the picture right above his hand like he was holding it, was a glowing orb. Their was nothing in the room to make a a reflection or whatever you call them in the picture. A few weeks later I was watching this ghost show and the person on it said that a glowing orb is a spirit of someone who has left this world. And I completely believe it.
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I think it'd be fantastic if they were real, but my biggest beef is the lack of evidence.

I mean, in this day and age, with the amount of capture technology that is available to the average citizen, you'd think that by now *something* would have been found?

Take all of those ghost-hunting shows/stories. You see them, even the ones that go in as skeptics, and they find strange and mysterious happenings; bits of EVP, shadows moving that can't be explained, objects moving by themselves. Pretty convincing right?

So why is it, when they begin to capture these happenings, they can't afford to stay more than one night (a few hours) recording? Are there anti-ghost capture laws where their cameras can only film once in a location, then they need to leave? If the activity was real, the amount of profit behind such a discovery, and the religious and scientific ramifications, would be astounding!

When they say "Dang, look at this video, the chair moved on it's own! Well, that was great for one night, but there's no possible way we can stay here and conduct further study. Too bad too!" You've convinced me that none of it's real.

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I agree with Kaplan. We have so much image capturing technology these days, and if let's just say 1/100 of all people who die become a ghost, wouldn't pretty much every few pictures have a ghost in it?
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Never had a personal experience, but I do believe in ghosts. I would like to join a paranormal team sometime and investigate, like TAPS from Ghost Hunters, cause I find ghosts more interesting then scary.

Kaplan said:
Take all of those ghost-hunting shows/stories. You see them, even the ones that go in as skeptics, and they find strange and mysterious happenings; bits of EVP, shadows moving that can't be explained, objects moving by themselves. Pretty convincing right?

So why is it, when they begin to capture these happenings, they can't afford to stay more than one night (a few hours) recording? Are there anti-ghost capture laws where their cameras can only film once in a location, then they need to leave? If the activity was real, the amount of profit behind such a discovery, and the religious and scientific ramifications, would be astounding!

When they say "Dang, look at this video, the chair moved on it's own! Well, that was great for one night, but there's no possible way we can stay here and conduct further study. Too bad too!" You've convinced me that none of it's real.


TAPS(from the tv show Ghost Hunters and the only ones I really find reliable on tv)have gone on investigations to several places more then once, not just on the show but off it as well. If you've ever watched it, they go in to disprove the haunting and try to find every possible way to explain it before claiming the place is haunted.
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What evidence..? >_>


One piece of "evidence" was a "scientist" saying that we, as living human beings, cannot float or pass through doors/walls, therefore ghosts absolutely cannot exist. It's a bit of an extreme example, but when people use this as "evidence," it's pretty ridiculous.

That's not to say I believe the "evidence" that ghosts do exist, though. There are a lot of faked videos, images and EVPs, so how do I know they aren't all fake?

Until someone can definitively prove that they do or do not exist, I'll remain on the fence.
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I have had some experiences. i can list a few

- when my TV turned it self on when i was reading in the living room.
- when (in the same night) my mirror fell down from my wall, a cup was pushed down from a table in the kitchen and a vase fell down from the living room. everything happened in around 2-4 minutes.
- when my bedroom door was opened when i was home alone.
- hearing footsteps in the house when im alone.

I am pretty used to weird things happening at my house.
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I don't believe in 'em, to be honest.
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sucura said:
TAPS(from the tv show Ghost Hunters and the only ones I really find reliable on tv)have gone on investigations to several places more then once, not just on the show but off it as well. If you've ever watched it, they go in to disprove the haunting and try to find every possible way to explain it before claiming the place is haunted.


Oh I've watched, first and most of the second season in fact. Still, why when they are capturing evidence of paranormal activity, when they claim a place is haunted (which as they self-admit they are wary to do)...do they not stay at such a place?

If it's a hotbed for activity, if things are happening that can't be explained, why aren't they putting cameras in there 24/7, taking all necessary measures to capture proof of the paranormal ? Instead, they pack up their equipment after a few hours, because they have to work for Roto-Rooter in the morning. Now I know plumbers can make good money, but something tells me that it would be far more lucrative to prove the existence of ghosts.
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I believe they exist, but sometimes things are blown out of proportion or something. I'm not sure if this is proof enough, but they happened to me and some of my family. When my uncle died my cousin and I experienced something weird. We went to sing karaoke. When we decided to take a break and eat dinner we just left the cd in the DVD player on the main menu. After about five or so minutes the karaoke started playing with no one in the room. The cd couldn't have started by itself after a given time. To test this out we ran downstairs, stopped the song that was playing and waited the same length of time, and it didn't start playing a random song.

We're thinking it may have been my uncle because the room we were in was actually part of his apartment. There was a wall between the apartment and main house. When he died they tore down the wall.

A couple nights later my cousin felt someone tapping on her shoulder. She thought it was me so she went to look over but I was fast asleep.

My uncle also experienced something around the same month. Late at night he heard foot steps right outside his door. I guess they probably sounded like pacing because he decided to check it out. It turned out that no one was there. It may have been my uncle that passed because he spent a lot of time in that house when they'd drink with other relatives.

After these next couple of months nothing seemed to happen, at least none that I heard.

This isn't exactly proof, but it's enough to make me believe that ghosts exist.
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Kaplan said:
sucura said:
TAPS(from the tv show Ghost Hunters and the only ones I really find reliable on tv)have gone on investigations to several places more then once, not just on the show but off it as well. If you've ever watched it, they go in to disprove the haunting and try to find every possible way to explain it before claiming the place is haunted.


Oh I've watched, first and most of the second season in fact. Still, why when they are capturing evidence of paranormal activity, when they claim a place is haunted (which as they self-admit they are wary to do)...do they not stay at such a place?

If it's a hotbed for activity, if things are happening that can't be explained, why aren't they putting cameras in there 24/7, taking all necessary measures to capture proof of the paranormal ? Instead, they pack up their equipment after a few hours, because they have to work for Roto-Rooter in the morning. Now I know plumbers can make good money, but something tells me that it would be far more lucrative to prove the existence of ghosts.


Yeah I can understand what you're saying. I mean I know if I was investigating the place I would keep my investigations going to capture more evidence. I'm not quite sure if TAPS charges for each case(I know some paranormal organizations do)becuase the expense of the equipment they use. Also, places they investigate(TAPS at least, or the ones I've seen on TV and have read about)are usually public or famous places. So probably to keep doing investigations, they would have to work something out with the owners of the building. Sounds simple, but can lead to a lot of bad business(say if it was a hotel or theater or museum or something like that).
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Yeah I can understand what you're saying. I mean I know if I was investigating the place I would keep my investigations going to capture more evidence. I'm not quite sure if TAPS charges for each case(I know some paranormal organizations do)becuase the expense of the equipment they use. Also, places they investigate(TAPS at least, or the ones I've seen on TV and have read about)are usually public or famous places. So probably to keep doing investigations, they would have to work something out with the owners of the building. Sounds simple, but can lead to a lot of bad business(say if it was a hotel or theater or museum or something like that).


I'm sorry but that still just doesn't cut it. If business and profit were what concerned them (for a hotel-scenario), there would still be far more money to be made in creating an environment where supernatural capture could be isolated, than any potential lost business (not to mention the increased business from the paranormal crowd). In fact one of the old TAPs investigation houses, the Wavery Hills Sanitorium, is becoming a hotel and spa - banking on the paranormal clientele.

Just look at the public coverage whenever Jesus appears on toast, proof of ghosts would be world-changing, influencing cultures, religions, the meaning of life and death.

Assuming the non-hotel scenario, where the facility stands abandoned anyways (or it's a persons home), there's no profit loss, the operating costs for that equipment is only man-power...and if I were dedicated to proving the paranormal, I'd sure as hell volunteer my time. Of course, that's all irrelevant, as I'm sure the Sci-Fi channel pays for much of it.

No, the only plausible explanation for not looking deeper when they reportedly find something, is they know their findings won't hold up to scrutiny. It's entertainment, nothing more.


For those who've had personal experiences, I don't discount that it was very real to you, but I do know that people vastly underestimate the ability of the mind to play tricks. It's a complex mechanism and we barely know how it works, misfires can happen all the time. It's trained to see patterns, use past experience to qualify the present, etc...







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Kaplan said:
sucura said:
Yeah I can understand what you're saying. I mean I know if I was investigating the place I would keep my investigations going to capture more evidence. I'm not quite sure if TAPS charges for each case(I know some paranormal organizations do)becuase the expense of the equipment they use. Also, places they investigate(TAPS at least, or the ones I've seen on TV and have read about)are usually public or famous places. So probably to keep doing investigations, they would have to work something out with the owners of the building. Sounds simple, but can lead to a lot of bad business(say if it was a hotel or theater or museum or something like that).


I'm sorry but that still just doesn't cut it. If business and profit were what concerned them (for a hotel-scenario), there would still be far more money to be made in creating an environment where supernatural capture could be isolated, than any potential lost business (not to mention the increased business from the paranormal crowd). In fact one of the old TAPs investigation houses, the Wavery Hills Sanitorium, is becoming a hotel and spa - banking on the paranormal clientele.

Just look at the public coverage whenever Jesus appears on toast, proof of ghosts would be world-changing, influencing cultures, religions, the meaning of life and death.

Assuming the non-hotel scenario, where the facility stands abandoned anyways (or it's a persons home), there's no profit loss, the operating costs for that equipment is only man-power...and if I were dedicated to proving the paranormal, I'd sure as hell volunteer my time. Of course, that's all irrelevant, as I'm sure the Sci-Fi channel pays for much of it.

No, the only plausible explanation for not looking deeper when they reportedly find something, is they know their findings won't hold up to scrutiny. It's entertainment, nothing more.


For those who've had personal experiences, I don't discount that it was very real to you, but I do know that people vastly underestimate the ability of the mind to play tricks. It's a complex mechanism and we barely know how it works, misfires can happen all the time. It's trained to see patterns, use past experience to quantify the present, etc...


Thats true and you definitely provided a lot good points as well. I do agree with you that the mind does and can play tricks on people, cause as you said, there are still a lot of things we can't explain about the human mind and how it works. I wouldn't discount personal experiences either, cause you really don't know until it happens to you......I just hope one day there will be enough evidence or a good amount to actually prove that ghosts do exist.
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I don't believe in ghost. But if i really saw one someday, i'd be really happy. Because supernatural stuff actually exist, and i could probably cast fireball or thunderbolt like lina inverse in slayers.
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I think the house I grew up in had a lot of negative energy. The couple that lived there before we moved in were going through a very nasty divorce. As to it actually being haunted, I don't know. I know I had many times I was unexplainably terrified to be in my bedroom alone [shared with sister] at night.

I'm fairly interested in haunted places/stories, have been for years, but I've not really seen much that has made me believe 100% that ghosts exist.
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I've had multiple paranormal experiences, from a photo with an unexplainable white light next to someone to deja-vu's.
Although I don't really care for all that stuff, I do find it very useful, like knowing what will happen to the last detail (deja-vu) or spontaneously know a persons personalty (It's like a 6th sence, where I see someone, and I just know the person)
Even though I know there is something more, I choose not to focus on it, rather I spend my life living it's fullest and living in harmony with everyone and everything.
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I've had multiple paranormal experiences, from a photo with an unexplainable white light next to someone to deja-vu's.


A déjà-vu is not a paranormal experience though. It's a type of memory disorder that happens among about 70% of all people (according to studies). (:

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I mean, in this day and age, with the amount of capture technology that is available to the average citizen, you'd think that by now *something* would have been found?


Yeah, that's a strange problem. I've seen a study which showed that after the invention and dissemination of cellphones, ghost apparition claims have fallen steadily. The people involved in the study made the humorous conclusion cellphones repelled ghosts as a joke =p But really, the amount of people and the ease to somehow record a moment have grown tremendously in the last decades, so how did the number of reported sightings fall?

Also, I see no scientific basis for their existence, and I can very easily blame them on illusions and/or lack of understanding of the surroundings. Here at home, on a Friday 13th, a clock that hung on the kitchen wall fell and broke with no apparent reason. The conclusion? There could have been a thousand explanations. Blaming it on ghosts, spirits, a curse or whatever ranked among the most improbable causes. At times like that, Occam's Razor hits me like a brick: "Among many possible reasonable explanations for an event, the most simple one is probably the most correct". I don't understand why people are always so eager to invoke a completely new phenomenon for something when physics, chemistry and biology already suffice.
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Just curious, have you ever had a paranormal experiance?


yeah i woke up one day and my nuts had gone to sleep....now thats whats i would i would call a PARAnotNORMAL experience.....

one day i was walking down the roads and shit.......and this guy was like staring at me...and i was PARAnoid he was gonna kill me....anyway as i walk out he pulled out a gun....but it wasnt a gun it was a leaflet that said do you blive in GOD.....and thats pretty normal .....i guess you could say PARAnormal.


ok so this one time im making so tea and then the kettle clicks and the water stopped bloiling......and anyway i fnish the tea and then the FUCKING GHOST SAID HE WANTS COFFEE INSTEAD!! god dam sheet waring freak!!!!!
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haven't had any over-the-top, saw a couple dead cats and felt a demon.. or something.... but I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Even thought I know that there no proves that ghosts exist, I still scared if im alone at home at night. I hate picture of people that stare at you, same with dolls.

Once when I played with my cat, my cat suddenly started to stare at something in the room for few secs, then stopped, then started to stare again. I looked the same way as my cat did, but didn't see anything special. So that kinda scared me a bit.
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I believe in ghosts because I have reason to believe that I've actually seen one.
I've also played on a Oujia board but tbh, that doesn't really back up anything although it was quite a creepy experience.
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Ghost related horror is my favorite kind. Ringu, Fatal Frame...
For real ghosts, I find them interesting. At least to keep an open mind it's nice to study up on this stuff. I always get that feeling I'm not alone too. Of course paranoia is normal for everyone though.

If you want something cool to read check this out. I googled to see what kind of paranormal activity is around where I live and found this:
http://theshadowlands.net/places/
Hauntings around the world.
True or not, I find it neat to know people are keeping track of it at least.
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If you want something cool to read check this out. I googled to see what kind of paranormal activity is around where I live and found this:
http://theshadowlands.net/places/
Hauntings around the world.
True or not, I find it neat to know people are keeping track of it at least.


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I've had a few paranormal experiences but enough to make me believe in them. When I was little I use to hear someone calling my name at night. It was always at night in my room, I was really scared so I always slept with my mom in the guest room because I didnt hear it in there.
Another one is in my old house I'd always hear windows close but there'd never be any windows open or sometimes it'd sound like someone was coming down the stairs but no one was home.
But yeah I dont know if deja-vu counts but I get that all the time.
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I believe in them. I like to watch shows about haunted hotels especially since I worked at an inn that has been around since the 1700's. Apparently the inn has a ghost but I've never had an experience. I'm watching "A Haunting" on the Discovery Channel right now. I don't always believe these things but it is interesting to watch these shows and hear people's stories.
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ghost no
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Of course I believe in Ghosts. Spirits as well. It's the same as believing in God.

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I find the subject interesting, though I can't say I exactly believe in them. I'd probably have to see/experience something myself for me to truly believe. I'd like to though.
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yeah i belive em alright, its probably one of my biggest fears
nows a bad time to for me to read this stuff(12:27 am) haha :P
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I do not believe in ghosts and do not plan on believing in them in the future


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I believe that there's a rational explanation to the phenomena "Ghosts";
It's all in the human mind folks. (<.<)

The principle is simple; The idea of ghosts existing is comforting, that is why people tend to explain random event's with the all so random "Oh shit! it was a ghost! i could swear that it was aunt Pamela visiting us!"

The idea of ghost's supports the idea of a soul --> Which supports the idea of a heaven and a hell --> And if there's a heaven and a hell, you are ofcourse granted eternal life through 'god almighty'/'the holy spirit' or whatever, and can see all your loved one's in paradise after your fysical death on earth.

/ P.S This post was written without any evil intentions of starting a flamewar <.< And yes i am an Atheist, Sue me.


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When Im ALone I Hear Noises And See Dark Figures
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I remember seeing a skeleton ghost sometimes before I went to sleep when I was very little. Probably just my imagination but I do have this memory left and I remember that it seemed very real.
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not gonna say that what im gonna say is the truth, but as i have studied human evolution etc. i have a kind of theory on this. the idea of ghosts have always been among us humans. when we first we're born in africa, we believed in ghosts and spirits as a kind of religion. we had these "shamans" that went into a trance to speak with the spirits, for advice etc. why did we do this? it was a way to hold the group togheter, wich at the time, was needed for our survival. humans have a need to be a part of a group, thats a fact, and even more back then. ghosts have since then lived on, and with all the horror movies etc. in todays society they have become something else than what they were back then. we think we see things cus we want to see things. ever since humans were born we have explained things we dont understand with things we could understand, if you have ever studied religion you will know what i mean. just take a thing like near-death experiences. many ppl claim to have seen a white light when they got an electrical shock for exampel and passed out. well, according to research, that light occurs when you change "consciousness-state". you can even see things like jesus, god etc. when you change consciousness, all based on what you expect to see. the shamans i was talking about before used this when they "talked" to the spirits. they changed consciousness and then saw things they wanted to see.

i could go on forever with these kind of things, but im done now ;p.. well, this is what i think ghosts is, a persons desire for something to happen blended with a desire to explain everything. in short, its as some ppl have already stated in this thread, its the mind playing tricks.
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i could go on forever with these kind of things, but im done now ;p.. well, this is what i think ghosts is, a persons desire for something to happen blended with a desire to explain everything. in short, its as some ppl have already stated in this thread, its the mind playing tricks.


you're probably right ^^, I hear Voodo and ancient healing methods worked in the same way as we today give people sugar pills and tell them its medicine that will make them feel better.
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lol ZOMBIE GOASTS leave this house
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I've never had a paranormal experience, and I never want to have one.
I LOVE reading ghost stories.
And I wholeheartedly believe in ghosts (my mom had a paranormal experience).
But, I'm afraid of poltergeists. If what I've read is true, then they can physically harm you, and having objects such as furniture being whipped at me is not a very nice thought.
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I've also never had a paranormal experience with the ghosts, except for those freaky Deja-vu's I sometimes have... scary >_>

As for the ghosts, I believe that everything is possible, until it's proven. So the ghosts in my opinion might exist or they might not. It's just another one of those experiences that probably wont be proven 100 or 500 years later.
''... you know what? As a writer, I bring life into those who will experience happiness, sadness, torment and love in stories I write. They will have the opportunity to discover what being important means... and all because I will never be able to do the same as they could. If I could, I would put myself in their place right now. But no, my magic isn't like that...''
Aug 23, 2008 8:31 AM
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how about i kill one of you...then you can tell us if ghost exist.

or do you mean metaphorical ghost like tramps ont the street and the forgotten.
NANI WHAT THE FUCK, THATS SO KAWAII ....DESU

Aug 23, 2008 8:54 AM

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of course take some pictures and trick it to come with me and make me famous and rich. Or if not, kill it with fire.
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