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Nov 5, 2010 1:05 PM
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Yukari_Hiwada said:
Awesome. SO FREAKIN' AWESOME.
If it was human, it would be cruel but then his wife was dead. And he took good care of her before she did (or did he?). Killing his undead wife is actually the best decision.
/end rant.


Except the shiki still feel pain, emotion and have their memories intact. Other than the fact that they kill humans, drink blood and are dead, they are pretty much the same as humans. Excuse that they are not human is not really an excuse.

This is deep into grey zone.
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Nov 5, 2010 1:15 PM

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fertygo said:
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Which chapter in manga that cover the torture ?
I wanna to compare.


That's in chapter 18 of the manga.

Thanks dude.


You are welcome :D

P.S I'm a girl not a guy ^__^
Nov 5, 2010 1:52 PM

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OMG.......the last scenes....with Kyoko...were...very disturbing and sad...i felt terrified at some point....very well done.5/5
Same here. I felt really sad and felt bad just for watching that. Whole hearted depression, everyone dying, wife wakes up as a shiki, using her as a subject, killing her....its all so depressing.
Nov 5, 2010 2:47 PM

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That episode was messed up! Poor Kyoko... I love this episode though.
Nov 5, 2010 2:49 PM

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BRUTAL!!!!!!!
Nov 5, 2010 3:13 PM

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Like you all said it, the episode was truly fantastic! Quite disturbing and gory, but still really enjoyable.
And I didn't feel sorry for Toshio's wife at all, she would have killed far more people, if Toshio didn't stop her.
I can't wait to see the next episode after watching that preview!
Nov 5, 2010 3:38 PM

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I actually loved Kyoko and the couple itself, and seeing her being tortured like that was really disturbing. As we noticed, so far all the shiki haven't lost their true selfs, I believe that goes the same for Kyoko...:( he could have experimented on any other patient, why it had to be her.. ;(
Nov 5, 2010 3:51 PM
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This Show gets better with every single episode,...

at some scenes of the experiments I just thought "What the hell am I just seeing? Experiments with a nearly living/undead person as the object of research?!"
this episode was sick,... but I loved it and I'd like if the Show keeps this up.
Nov 5, 2010 3:54 PM

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He had to do it, dammit!
Toshio looks even more exhausted and he has finally lost it.
I also loved this episode.
Nov 5, 2010 4:13 PM

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My god, my eyes were glued when Ozaki's testing started.
What a man.
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Nov 5, 2010 4:16 PM

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Oh my god. 5/5

I think Toshio managed to go through with it because he doesn't know that Shiki retain there human feelings. To him there just monsters.
Nov 5, 2010 5:07 PM

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Best episode so far for sure. It's good that someone don't mind getting their hands dirty to defeat those Shikis xD

Nov 5, 2010 5:40 PM
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Godly episode. Few characters (in fact, only one in this series) could kill their own abomination-risen wife to help society get rid of such a threat, but this valiant doctor could. All hail Ozaki !

It was kinda sad since we now know that Shikis retain their old personality after death (and thus Kyoko was still the same Kyoko he had loved and wed), still, it had to be done and probably results in the only true good development for the human side since the beginning of the series. Clear, logical and powerful, it was a Hell of an episode script-wise (including the Masao and Megumi scene and the death of the kids' father).

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Nov 5, 2010 5:44 PM

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holy sh!t.

... I have never felt sooo horrified watching an anime in my life... and I'm not feint of heart; I've seen gore-fests (elfen lied), psychologically f'ed up (mononoke)...etc, but this took it to another level...

what was f'ed up??

-she could feel everything
-she was gagged
-she was repeatedly tested on
-she was his WIFE
-... and he didn't give a fawk... damn son!

mind-blowing.... genius. this show is phenomenal.

we're witnessing something EPIC people.

I ..... want..... more......
Nov 5, 2010 5:59 PM

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MusashiRose said:
... I have never felt sooo horrified watching an anime in my life... and I'm not feint of heart; I've seen gore-fests (elfen lied), psychologically f'ed up (mononoke)...etc, but this took it to another level...
Go watch Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni (When the Cicadas Cry, for English). Sounds like you'd love it.
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Dr. House is alpha as fuck
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Nov 5, 2010 8:19 PM

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Yukari_Hiwada said:
Awesome. SO FREAKIN' AWESOME.
If it was human, it would be cruel but then his wife was dead. And he took good care of her before she did (or did he?). Killing his undead wife is actually the best decision.
/end rant.


Except the shiki still feel pain, emotion and have their memories intact. Other than the fact that they kill humans, drink blood and are dead, they are pretty much the same as humans. Excuse that they are not human is not really an excuse.

This is deep into grey zone.


wow, which part of killing humans, drinking their blood & being dead is human.

hahaha...you just proved that they arent human, therefore they shouldnt be treated like one... right choice, only a dumbass would miss this opportunity to destory these son of a bitches....

U wanna know who killed his wife...the Shiki killed his wife...she had died 5 days ago

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Yukari_Hiwada said:
Awesome. SO FREAKIN' AWESOME.
If it was human, it would be cruel but then his wife was dead. And he took good care of her before she did (or did he?). Killing his undead wife is actually the best decision.
/end rant.


Except the shiki still feel pain, emotion and have their memories intact. Other than the fact that they kill humans, drink blood and are dead, they are pretty much the same as humans. Excuse that they are not human is not really an excuse.

This is deep into grey zone.


grey zone???

you just said they kill humans, drink their blood & are dead...

they aint humans, they predators...& they higher on the food chain...they wolf, we rabbits

now ask yourself...
you are a rabbit...the wolfs turned your wife into a wolf...but luckily, faith has given the opportunity to find out how to kill the wolfs...now as a rabbit you have a chose...either you kill your wolf-wife & tell the other rabbits the secret in killing them....or stand there, bitch about how life is a bitch & let your wolf-wife eat your ass...

i think he made the wise chose
Nov 5, 2010 9:15 PM

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It was about time that something interesting happened in the show.
-Another scene of the man with an awesome beard.
-Hell Yeah, Masao is back!
-Awesome fanservice from the nurse(Dayuum)
-And the best part, the experimentation on the Shiki.

It would be amazing to see the rest of the episodes be as interesting as this one.
Nov 5, 2010 9:41 PM

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That shiki experimentation part gave me the creeps.
The doctor officially lost his will to continue being a doctor...

Ohhh, I don't know...


Nov 5, 2010 10:18 PM

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Oh wow...that got a bit grisly. Oh....Ozaki is one cold ass bastard sometimes. I don't blame him for doing all of that, I would have too, but he didn't show any emotion during it at all.

Also, I love that Masao hasn't show up for ages until now, just to be beaten up by Megumi. :D
Nov 5, 2010 10:51 PM

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Haha Toshio's expression pretty much the entire episode:
=_=
Nov 5, 2010 10:51 PM

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Great episode - probably the best one yet.

I was shaking in m chair because I have a fear of dissecting stuff but that's what makes the episode awesome. 5/5
Nov 5, 2010 11:30 PM

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Doctor's been redeemed in my eyes! Let's hope more episodes are like this and don't drag on with people dropping like flies and Megumi being her usual fucking annoying self.
Nov 6, 2010 12:17 AM

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OMG luved this ep
simply disturbing although i did feel sorry for kyoko
but ye i cannot wait to see the next ep kinda exited lol
Nov 6, 2010 3:03 AM

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Surprised no ones mentioned this creep.





There so screwed =(
Nov 6, 2010 3:10 AM

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Oh, another good-looking nurse, yatta~ (But since she's got a terribly "normal" hair-style, she's a very low priority side character : <)
Anyway, this is just getting better all the time.
What it needed really was some blood and gore.
Oh and moar Megumi. (As well as more of her hitting the creep, whatever his name was.)
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Nov 6, 2010 7:44 AM

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Awesome episode !! Really disturbing and i was like o_O!!;

Felt sorry though for her wife :(

and LMAO at this post

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Now I know that no fangirl would ever fantaize being doctors girlfriend XD


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Nov 6, 2010 9:33 AM

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Ah, this episode was disturbing. But than again, I was not expecting anything else of the series. >.< Nice to see the doctor show some backbone and deal with the situation. His wife is probably better off now. He most likely saved a few lives with his morbid action too. Wonder what happens next, maybe Yuki is not cremented after all? Wonder what he is up to when he wakes up? O.o
Nov 6, 2010 9:49 AM
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Yukari_Hiwada said:
Awesome. SO FREAKIN' AWESOME.
If it was human, it would be cruel but then his wife was dead. And he took good care of her before she did (or did he?). Killing his undead wife is actually the best decision.
/end rant.


Except the shiki still feel pain, emotion and have their memories intact. Other than the fact that they kill humans, drink blood and are dead, they are pretty much the same as humans. Excuse that they are not human is not really an excuse.

This is deep into grey zone.


wow, which part of killing humans, drinking their blood & being dead is human.

hahaha...you just proved that they arent human, therefore they shouldnt be treated like one... right choice, only a dumbass would miss this opportunity to destory these son of a bitches....

U wanna know who killed his wife...the Shiki killed his wife...she had died 5 days ago

wakka9ca said:
Yukari_Hiwada said:
Awesome. SO FREAKIN' AWESOME.
If it was human, it would be cruel but then his wife was dead. And he took good care of her before she did (or did he?). Killing his undead wife is actually the best decision.
/end rant.


Except the shiki still feel pain, emotion and have their memories intact. Other than the fact that they kill humans, drink blood and are dead, they are pretty much the same as humans. Excuse that they are not human is not really an excuse.

This is deep into grey zone.


grey zone???

you just said they kill humans, drink their blood & are dead...

they aint humans, they predators...& they higher on the food chain...they wolf, we rabbits

now ask yourself...
you are a rabbit...the wolfs turned your wife into a wolf...but luckily, faith has given the opportunity to find out how to kill the wolfs...now as a rabbit you have a chose...either you kill your wolf-wife & tell the other rabbits the secret in killing them....or stand there, bitch about how life is a bitch & let your wolf-wife eat your ass...

i think he made the wise chose


And once again (just like back in Macross Frontier with Vajra vs. Humans) people (i.e. viewers) adopt "human chauvinism" and always the "Us Vs. Them" ideology. You have to notice you don't have to always take the human side in everything. Impartially speaking, what the doctor did is no better than what the shiki did. They were all doing it for survival. However that doesn't remove the fact that it is in the grey zone. Obviously, unless your vision are tainted in black and white....

Based on your extreme assumptions, you can justify a lot of things you may never even think of.
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Nov 6, 2010 10:07 AM

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HELL YEAH MEGUMI!! Finally someone slapped Masao :D

Ozaki going nuts! I wonder what Seishin reation when his best buddy has crossed line of morality just to find way to kill shiki?
Nov 6, 2010 10:21 AM

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What an awesome and intense episode
And btw megumi Owns!!
Nov 6, 2010 10:58 AM
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That was sick o_o
Nov 6, 2010 11:12 AM

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Oh, God... It was disturbing, brutal, inhuman but definitely astonishing, too.
And Toshio's calm voice: "Help me clean this up."
I... I just can't believe that guy.

Bloody hell, Shiki is the keenest anime I've ever seen.
Nov 6, 2010 12:08 PM

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...That was REALLY, REALLY HARD for me to watch, and I like to think that I can stand watching pretty much anything.
I looked away for some of it. ...Dissection and experiments...ugh. ;___;

I suppose that made it a pretty awesome episode though.


Nov 6, 2010 12:16 PM

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Surprised no ones mentioned this creep.





There so screwed =(


haha yup

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Nov 6, 2010 1:08 PM

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First good episode. Glad the show is finally going somewhere.
Nov 6, 2010 1:42 PM

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Surprised no ones mentioned this creep.





There so screwed =(


haha yup

Who is that guy? xD


Nov 6, 2010 2:25 PM

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bloodbath! ;D nice one

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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Nov 6, 2010 2:34 PM

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Priceless :) An excellent episode.
Nov 6, 2010 2:36 PM

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AngelRaf said:
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Surprised no ones mentioned this creep.


There so screwed =(

haha yup

Who is that guy? xD
I thought Megumi sent this guy to kill off Kaori's dad or maybe I am mistaken? The pale appearance shows signs of him being a Shiki.
Nov 6, 2010 2:50 PM

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He is from the other clinic that opened up, and the Shiki are operating it from what I remember. I remember they were discussing the new clinic and funeral home being opened in a earlier episode.

How very convenient for them ^_^

Nov 6, 2010 2:55 PM

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I'm pretty sure he's just using the dad's death as an excuse to get inside the house. Needing permission must make things complicated.
Nov 6, 2010 3:41 PM

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He is from the other clinic that opened up, and the Shiki are operating it from what I remember. I remember they were discussing the new clinic and funeral home being opened in a earlier episode.

How very convenient for them ^_^


Yeah I know they talked about the new clinic.But I didn't think about it at the moment.Yet,everything makes sense.Of this guys really is a shiki,but 99.9% I'm sure he is,what will happen to Akira and Kaori? :(
Natsuno come back!

And yeah forgot to say.Megumi did the first good thing.She beat the crap out of Masao x)


Nov 6, 2010 3:49 PM

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I loled so hard when she kicked him like that!
But he dared to diss Natsuno after all! Megumi don't play like that. ^_^

Nov 6, 2010 4:03 PM

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oh yeah i forgot that too. i dont like Megumi but she was the best in this ep! It was EPIC!
ahhh i wish i had an animated gif of her slapping Masao*.*

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Nov 6, 2010 4:09 PM

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I loled so hard when she kicked him like that!
But he dared to diss Natsuno after all! Megumi don't play like that. ^_^

Me to! >:)
I whould do the same thing in Megumi's place! Never say something bad about Natsuno!
When I see Masao's face I start to laught xD


Nov 6, 2010 4:48 PM

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I can't believe how cruel Toshio is!!
After all, it's his fault >> Not noticing her symptoms in the first place!
Nov 6, 2010 4:49 PM

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The ending gave me a hardon.
Nov 6, 2010 6:08 PM
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Toshio has lost it I felt awful for what he was doing to Kyouko, it was just torturing her...
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Whichever side you take, shiki or human, but seeing that last scene you must at least have a doubt who is the creepier, shiki or Toshio.

And whether you think of Toshio's action was right or wrong but knowing that he let his wife die intentionally and wait for her to be risen so that he could do all those things to find a way to kill shiki. I am not sure if I should admire him or run away from him.

With that said, Toshio, you are the man of the year and Kyousuke can get #2 now.


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