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Aug 10, 2010 3:04 AM
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Daaamn. Finally Aizen steps in.
Aug 10, 2010 3:51 AM
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He... killed her. Why? o.0

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Aug 10, 2010 4:09 AM
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She was useless for him now.
Aug 10, 2010 4:11 AM
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Dammit. Why are they making the bad guys seem good, Ugh -__- I hate this type of scenario.
Aug 10, 2010 4:45 AM
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Finally things are starting to happen.
Well.. They'll probably drag it out a bit anyway.
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Aug 10, 2010 4:47 AM
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KuroDubZero said:
Dammit. Why are they making the bad guys seem good, Ugh -__- I hate this type of scenario.


haha ye
Aug 10, 2010 4:57 AM
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after 1 ep, fillers ?

this was the best episode of this arc, but Aizen slashing that chick was lame as fuck XD

so from now one the trolling starts xDDDD
Aug 10, 2010 5:00 AM
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Of those who died this episode I will miss Lilinet the most.

KuroDubZero said:
Dammit. Why are they making the bad guys seem good, Ugh -__- I hate this type of scenario.


To me it seems like they are making the bad guys seem even more evil. I meen a person is a complete and utter wretch for betraying their friends and even worse if he cuts his comrades down himself. Sure the arrancar are the enemy, but they were Aizen's allies and some such as Stark, Halibel, and Ulquiorra were very loyal. I think they deserved Aizen's loyalty in return.

...Well Aizen is Aizen so I guess betrayal was always a possibility though...

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@KuroDubZero It occurs to me that you were probably mostly referring to the arrancar. You are right they were portrayed in a very good way definately not as bad guys this ep. Seeing a I wasn't even thinking of them as bad guys at this point...
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Aug 10, 2010 5:46 AM
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R.I.P. Stark&Lilinete
Aug 10, 2010 6:12 AM

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One thing that really grabs my attention... why do the Vizards (Love and Rose) speak so politely to Kyouraku...??? This happens right after Stark falls to the ground. Any ideas? o.O
Aug 10, 2010 6:37 AM

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One thing that really grabs my attention... why do the Vizards (Love and Rose) speak so politely to Kyouraku...??? This happens right after Stark falls to the ground. Any ideas? o.O


maybe cause he knew them in the past or cause he Saved them cause Stark was kicking their asses
Aug 10, 2010 6:50 AM

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iirc, he was one of the few captains who was a captain when they were captains. Or something...
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Betrayed............................................

The Hollows weren't strong enough it seems (they seemed plenty strong to me). Now only the captains/ex-captains remain.

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was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.
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R.I.P. Stark&Lilinete

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well they all should have known what they were signing up for (well some of them). in the end he would have killed them anyways. but that was a crappy way to die.

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was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.


that is a very good point. the only one who got a real challenge was Ichigo. I think it is because the captains can not defeat them in the level they are suppose to be in as captains cant really go beyond their limits, which is a bankai. since there seems a reluctance to actually show some of the captain's bankais, they went this route. it is a bit regressive and inconsistent, but they all would have had to die one way or another so this is just details.
Aug 10, 2010 9:16 AM

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damn, good episode! :)

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
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Aug 10, 2010 9:31 AM

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now the fun part starts :P
Aug 10, 2010 9:58 AM

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It was so f*** good. Kyouraku's games was very entertaining especially Kageoni & Irooni. Kateoni, well, it's .... I can't describe this game.
Finally I want to know how his bankai looks like.

ps. After the fight, conversation between Love/Rose & Kyouraku explain his motive in hiding in shadow and thrusting from the behind.

KuroDubZero said:
Dammit. Why are they making the bad guys seem good, Ugh -__- I hate this type of scenario.


Nobody is 100% good or bad and I like this things.
Aug 10, 2010 9:59 AM
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This episode was good but the next one will slow down without of talking and hannibels story...
Aug 10, 2010 10:08 AM
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Hmmm... Hopefully not another filler arc...
Aug 10, 2010 10:26 AM

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5/5

Good episode. I liked Stark's fight, he was my favorite espada.

Sucks for Halibel. Seems like the real fights are about to begin. :)
Aug 10, 2010 10:28 AM

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The Stark vs Kyouraku fight was pretty interesting. It still bothers me how the whole power balance is messed up. Comparing to how hard Ichigo had to fight in his fights, the top 3 were way underpowered.
Aug 10, 2010 10:32 AM

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Aizen's an ass!!
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Aug 10, 2010 10:34 AM

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Sugoi, Aizen-sama. Can't wait for next week's episode!

Aug 10, 2010 10:58 AM

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well they all should have known what they were signing up for (well some of them). in the end he would have killed them anyways. but that was a crappy way to die.

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was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.


that is a very good point. the only one who got a real challenge was Ichigo. I think it is because the captains can not defeat them in the level they are suppose to be in as captains cant really go beyond their limits, which is a bankai. since there seems a reluctance to actually show some of the captain's bankais, they went this route. it is a bit regressive and inconsistent, but they all would have had to die one way or another so this is just details.


yh, but you have to remember that Stark & Linette had to fight Kyouraku Shunsui, he is one of the oldest & strongest captains....

Yamamoto Genryuusai (Head Captain) didnt even do anything but watch...
lol because he would probably owned all the espadas in 5 mins...
first 4 mins to lecture them then the last to kill them....

& the ownly reason they need Ichigo is because he hasnt seen Aizens sword

Head Captain could easily kill Aizen if it wasnt for Aizen's complete illusion technique
Aug 10, 2010 11:29 AM

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Best part of Bleach should be happening now.
Aug 10, 2010 12:03 PM

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And Kyouraku seals himself as the only non-know-it-all that has any sense in the show. It's laughable that Love and Rose felt like they could step to him in any manner and criticize his actions.
Aug 10, 2010 12:14 PM

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a dick move? By Aizen? No way! That came out of nowhere!
>:-(

Anyway, Kyouraku had some nice moves slicing up the Primera Espada like that. I think I understand his zanpakutou a little better now, too.

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Aug 10, 2010 12:56 PM

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good fight scene even though it didnt last as long as ichigos fight
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damn, that was such an anti-climax ending of the espadas

Number 4, 5 and 6 's fight were more epic than the the first three, even though ichigo cheated with his hollow powers on ulquiorra

but wtf

no. 3 - water...that's it? seriously?..oh ya ....and boobs
no. 2 - old age/time - this was interesting at first ...but the most he did has talk trash
no. 1 - two cero guns, and spirit wolfs? wow, and the two spirit swords that didnt really seem special, i seriously though the initial buildup with the lazy and nonchalant sword fight would later on bring somewhat an epic final battle, like he is NUMBER ONE ffs. where was the ultimate grand cero that ulquiorra possessed? and the idea that he was looking for powerful comrades who wouldnt die around him in the end... what the f was it?

like you'd think that after ichigo's epic pwnage with ulquiorra , the level of power the first 3 would have to be atleast on par with what we saw with hollow ichigo.
but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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This episode was good but I think the next one is gonna be awesome.

I want to see Aizen's ass getting kicked ^^ , but hopefully not another filler <.< ...
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Aug 10, 2010 2:49 PM

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and Aizen finally makes his move. I've been waiting for this one.

Looks like the next episode will be a filler one...hopefully, it will be a single type filler, cause I couldn't take another filler arc right about now.

Poor Halibel....she put up a good fight only to be done in by Aizen...now the real battle begins.
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Finaly............ zZZzz
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R.I.P. Stark & Lilinete<3 D:
& omg, finally Aizen. next episode is gonna be great!(:
okay, Espada #4, #5, & #6 were WAY more interesting then Espada #1, #2, & #3. -o-
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negative1111 said:
was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.


Don't compare kyoraku and aizen to other captains.
Nr. 2,3 were much more powerfull than their opponents, but nr.1 didn't have that luck
Aug 10, 2010 3:44 PM

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The Stark vs Kyouraku fight was pretty interesting. It still bothers me how the whole power balance is messed up. Comparing to how hard Ichigo had to fight in his fights, the top 3 were way underpowered.


I agree, I expected more from Aizen's top 3 espada. The "good" guys didn't really "lose" anyone. While Aizen's side is taking heave losses.
Aug 10, 2010 4:38 PM
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i actully feel bad for stark and lillinette, any1 with me?
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I feel sorry for every Espada expect 5, 7-9 and 0.
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This episode is way too disappointing for me.. The buildup for Stark was somehow good but they decided to end him just like that.
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The top 3 Espadas are now down. I hope that there will be no filler arcs anymore...

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Aug 10, 2010 6:28 PM

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Stark was such a letdown....he looked really bad ass in the start but he just was not enough.
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Andddddddddddd.. the trolling starts.
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The top 3 Espadas are now down. I hope that there will be no filler arcs anymore...

And...
Even if it does happens it's not like that would be a bad thing.
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Aug 10, 2010 7:43 PM

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Stark!! T_T
Aug 10, 2010 7:53 PM

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So.. Stark and Lillinette are gone..
and it looks like Aizen is done waiting.
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Doubt Stark is gone, he just fell to the ground wounded. Unlike Barragan and Ulquiorra who vaporized into thin air.
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negative1111 said:
was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.






it dosn't strike me weird. Kyouraku is one of the oldest and strongest captains, and we havn't exactly seen him fight before.

and Aizen, well isnt he supposed to be extreamly powerful...and shit?
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negative1111 said:
was it only me or did stark and halibel seem weak? i mean, stark was defeated by a captain in his shikai (even those who werent espadas you had to use bankai to defeat)... and the top 4 espada is (probably) vasto lorde, to top it of they are arrancar vasto lorde... if you forgot, vasto lorde are supposed to be stronger than a captain...

but stark who probably is a vasto lorde arrancar got defeated by shikai? and halibel got sliced by aizen who werent even in shikai? ulqiorra was hyped as hell as was grimmjow... they both blocked bankai with their barehands and so on, but now suddenly they dont even have to be in shikai to cut the espada...

it seems like they abandoned reiatsu and now goes by special abilities like in naruto...

ps... stark just seemed like a quincy, but with a bit more firepower and less speed.


i agree with you that the top 3 espadas were underpowered, but i dont think any of the espadas are vasto lorde, the espadas are just hollows with shinigami powers (the reverse of vizards) but a vasto lorde is not a hybrid its purely hollow.

also about how ulliquorra and grimjow could block bankai and how stark got killed by a shikai, i think the reason for that is that ichigo at that time had a weak bankai, while captain kyouraku is the strongest captain after captain yamamato so i guess one could say that the disparity wasnt in the espada's powers but it was due to the fact that ichigo is that much weaker than captain kyouraku.....
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To bad Stark had to die -- I liked him...But now the fun starts :D:D
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