| I've made a similar thread in the past, but since them I've watched Otaku no Video, which has a particular scene that lives rent-free in my mind. Otaku no Videos deal with our protagonist, which feels alienated from his college peers due to him taking his tennis club very seriously, while everyone else doesn't. He's then reunited with his old friend, who now walks with a couple of odd fellows, who are otaku. The scene in question is when in a sort of matsuri and finds his friend there cosplaying, and then he's surrounded by a lot of people cosplaying Gundam, Matsumoto Leiji's characters and etc, all the whole they ask him to read their doujinshi about lolis, seifuku and girls with dicks (Good to know that nothing changed in four decades). At that moment, our protagonist feels like he's surrounded by aliens, a different species: It isn't just his friend that's weird anymore, it isn't just his friends that coincidentally have a similar form of autism, but rather that all of that IS A THING, it has lots of people, and it's everyone, they're living among us. They're aliens not just because they're weird, but because they offer a different form of living that goes against all the societal expectations they were taught since their infancy. I always come back to this screencap:  The creator of that famous video codec? One of us. People in their field just have to accept that someone who uses pictures of cute girl in anime style and talks about youkai are a thing. Like, I've always been curious: Using the photo of a cute little girls is probably the thing that stereo-typically goes against ideals of patriarchal masculinity the most, how do normies cope with the fact that something that goes against everything they've been told all their lives simply exists and is a thing? Like, it reminds me on how queer people on Tumblr and Twitter who posted about how they thought "the straights are so BORING" were unknowingly talking about normies, because their first contact with non-normies was with autistic queer people where they learned about fandoms and talking about movies and stuff. Are otaku perceived as aliens? |
thewiru said: ....Probably more the case back in the day, however, obsessing over pop culture isn't abnormal today. Otaku being overly invested in fetish content, also doesn't really make them stand out either. A ton of people have weird stuff they are into, however, of course that will be contained to the bedroom. The only thing alien, is that they felt comfortable enough to express that in public, which sure...if you are arguing some "otaku" have no social grace, sure, that doesn't mean they are alien, or that should be expected either. It isn't just his friend that's weird anymore, it isn't just his friends that coincidentally have a similar form of autism, but rather that all of that IS A THING, it has lots of people, and it's everyone, they're living among us. They're aliens not just because they're weird, but because they offer a different form of living that goes against all the societal expectations they were taught since their infancy. thewiru said: Honestly, guys using cute anime avatars, aren't much different than soldiers painting bombshell Blond pin ups on their bombers, during WW2, to me. It's a normal human interaction, to want to look at things you find appealing. The only difference between 50s pinups and anime girls is the ideal. People in their field just have to accept that someone who uses pictures of cute girl in anime style and talks about youkai are a thing. Like, I've always been curious: Using the photo of a cute little girls is probably the thing that stereo-typically goes against ideals of patriarchal masculinity the most, how do normies cope with the fact that something that goes against everything they've been told all their lives simply exists and is a thing? thewiru said: Everyone has a I am unique, I am special phase. Like, it reminds me on how queer people on Tumblr and Twitter who posted about how they thought "the straights are so BORING" were unknowingly talking about normies, because their first contact with non-normies was with autistic queer people where they learned about fandoms and talking about movies and stuff. |
| "Are otaku like aliens?" no, they are hooman |
 𝒩𝑒𝑜-𝒱𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓏𝒾𝒶 𝒾𝓈𝓃’𝓉 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒸𝑒~ 𝐼𝓉’𝓈 𝒶 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓇𝓇𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓎𝑜𝓊 |
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thewiru said:
It isn't just his friend that's weird anymore, it isn't just his friends that coincidentally have a similar form of autism, but rather that all of that IS A THING, it has lots of people, and it's everyone, they're living among us.
They're aliens not just because they're weird, but because they offer a different form of living that goes against all the societal expectations they were taught since their infancy.
....Probably more the case back in the day, however, obsessing over pop culture isn't abnormal today. Otaku being overly invested in fetish content, also doesn't really make them stand out either. A ton of people have weird stuff they are into, however, of course that will be contained to the bedroom. The only thing alien, is that they felt comfortable enough to express that in public, which sure...if you are arguing some "otaku" have no social grace, sure, that doesn't mean they are alien, or that should be expected either. It isn't just his friend that's weird anymore, it isn't just his friends that coincidentally have a similar form of autism, but rather that all of that IS A THING, it has lots of people, and it's everyone, they're living among us.
They're aliens not just because they're weird, but because they offer a different form of living that goes against all the societal expectations they were taught since their infancy.
thewiru said:
People in their field just have to accept that someone who uses pictures of cute girl in anime style and talks about youkai are a thing.
Like, I've always been curious: Using the photo of a cute little girls is probably the thing that stereo-typically goes against ideals of patriarchal masculinity the most, how do normies cope with the fact that something that goes against everything they've been told all their lives simply exists and is a thing?
Honestly, guys using cute anime avatars, aren't much different than soldiers painting bombshell Blond pin ups on their bombers, during WW2, to me. It's a normal human interaction, to want to look at things you find appealing. The only difference between 50s pinups and anime girls is the ideal. People in their field just have to accept that someone who uses pictures of cute girl in anime style and talks about youkai are a thing.
Like, I've always been curious: Using the photo of a cute little girls is probably the thing that stereo-typically goes against ideals of patriarchal masculinity the most, how do normies cope with the fact that something that goes against everything they've been told all their lives simply exists and is a thing?
thewiru said:
Like, it reminds me on how queer people on Tumblr and Twitter who posted about how they thought "the straights are so BORING" were unknowingly talking about normies, because their first contact with non-normies was with autistic queer people where they learned about fandoms and talking about movies and stuff.
Everyone has a I am unique, I am special phase. Like, it reminds me on how queer people on Tumblr and Twitter who posted about how they thought "the straights are so BORING" were unknowingly talking about normies, because their first contact with non-normies was with autistic queer people where they learned about fandoms and talking about movies and stuff.
BilboBaggins365 said: Honestly, guys using cute anime avatars, aren't much different than soldiers painting bombshell Blond pin ups on their bombers, during WW2, to me. Was Dresden a gacha pull stream, then? |
| Nope this normal if you new to world of hobby I give you a example when I was 11 at time I was a big of anime and Jrpgs I met a boy who was a nerd to Wrpgs and DnD how got bully after I show the bully he introduced to me to his club they big fan of Magic the gathering, DnD old school rpg like Wizardy Bard's tale the golden age they those old IDM and MS DOS PC big fan of Comic heroes and of course Star Wars, their club was kind of nerd pop culture I decided to join because my curiosity they teach me to play MTG cards play tabletop games and of course the crpg and rts which is I'm not in my element, even since I join the club I got a huge gap of different between the east and west pop culture I never played crpg in my life I'm a Jrpg player this why is so alien to me thr big different at that time My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff. |
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Nope this normal if you new to world of hobby
I give you a example when I was 11 at time I was a big of anime and Jrpgs I met a boy who was a nerd to Wrpgs and DnD how got bully after I show the bully he introduced to me to his club they big fan of Magic the gathering, DnD old school rpg like Wizardy Bard's tale the golden age they those old IDM and MS DOS PC big fan of Comic heroes and of course Star Wars, their club was kind of nerd pop culture I decided to join because my curiosity they teach me to play MTG cards play tabletop games and of course the crpg and rts which is I'm not in my element, even since I join the club I got a huge gap of different between the east and west pop culture I never played crpg in my life I'm a Jrpg player this why is so alien to me thr big different at that time
My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff.
I give you a example when I was 11 at time I was a big of anime and Jrpgs I met a boy who was a nerd to Wrpgs and DnD how got bully after I show the bully he introduced to me to his club they big fan of Magic the gathering, DnD old school rpg like Wizardy Bard's tale the golden age they those old IDM and MS DOS PC big fan of Comic heroes and of course Star Wars, their club was kind of nerd pop culture I decided to join because my curiosity they teach me to play MTG cards play tabletop games and of course the crpg and rts which is I'm not in my element, even since I join the club I got a huge gap of different between the east and west pop culture I never played crpg in my life I'm a Jrpg player this why is so alien to me thr big different at that time
My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff.
Kisaragi_Toka said: My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff. The way "otaku no video" uses the term otaku, they would also be considered otaku. Though, yes, in this thread I'm focusing on a specific type of otaku. |
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Kisaragi_Toka said:
My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff.
My telling is that trying something new is kind of alien thing. Not only otaku but also hobby stuff.
The way "otaku no video" uses the term otaku, they would also be considered otaku.
Though, yes, in this thread I'm focusing on a specific type of otaku.
| @thewiru otaku no video uses the term in the way it was originally intended to be used (nerds disconnected from mainstream culture who are really into an specific subculture and have habits surrounding them like cataloging stuff) |
| I don't think it really goes that far. In Japan otaku are viewed by most people fairly neutrally from what I have read. Some are viewed as weird by some but not so much alien just outcast. I do not think it is different in the West particularly just the views are more negative and especially extreme from social media influence on the collective consciousness. |
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| Since I'm too lazy at the moment to post that aliens meme, I will just type it out. "I'm not trying to say it's aliens...but it's aliens!" |
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| Good thread for once, I think they are perceived as oddballs. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
| They aren't alien. They’ve just been culturally isekai’d, stranded in a society that doesn’t appreciate the majesty of 2d waifu or mid-season plot twists. The rest of the world is busy with IT jobs networking, but otaku here analyzing why the villain’s eye twitch means unresolved childhood trauma from Episode 6. So no, wiru, the otaku are not extraterrestrials. They’re exiled dreamers with torrent accounts and hearts too tender for 3d dimension. And if that’s alienation? Beam me up, kohai |
| I dont go to conventions because yes... Otakus, real Otakus are weird as fuck and I want nothing to do with them, they are just cringe. |
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"Are otaku like aliens?"
no, they are hooman
no, they are hooman
| @nirererin they’re not actually hooman, they’re actually human |
𝒩𝑒𝑜-𝒱𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓏𝒾𝒶 𝒾𝓈𝓃’𝓉 𝒿𝓊𝓈𝓉 𝒶 𝓅𝓁𝒶𝒸𝑒~ 𝐼𝓉’𝓈 𝒶 𝒻𝑒𝑒𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓇𝓇𝓎 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝓎𝑜𝓊 |
| Not that different from other people who want to escape reality... That's more like LARP-ing the fictional idea of aliens. not being alien. |
| Yeah. Football Fans wearing the Jersey of their favorite Team are also aliens. Deep thinking. Good point. Anyway.... |
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BilboBaggins365 said:
Honestly, guys using cute anime avatars, aren't much different than soldiers painting bombshell Blond pin ups on their bombers, during WW2, to me.
Honestly, guys using cute anime avatars, aren't much different than soldiers painting bombshell Blond pin ups on their bombers, during WW2, to me.
Was Dresden a gacha pull stream, then?
@thewiru Just reminding you were this stuff originates..regardless of what the Weebs think, America created the first "WAIFUs". |
| This question is invalid because aliens don't actually exist. That much is very obvious, indeed. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
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