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May 3, 4:34 PM
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On one hand you have realistic sword fighting that seems to be based on actual HEMA fighting, and on the other hand you have designs like THAT:


Than you have a grizzled veteran sword teacher that seems grounded and humble to a fault,

that somehow gets roped into a harem of 10-20 year younger girls that stepped right out of the most cliché sexualized fantasy world you can imagine.

Watching this show feels like you are watching a really good historical show with fantasy elements that for some reason gets interupted every 5 minutes by a commercial for a cheap cliché harem VN with a bunch of basic love interests.
It is such a weird feeling, anybody else got this?
May 3, 5:17 PM
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Don't expect anything extraordinary in shows like this, at least it serves the purpose of entertainment well enough. It's decent, but mediocre.
May 3, 5:26 PM
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Don't expect anything extraordinary in shows like this, at least it serves the purpose of entertainment well enough. It's decent, but mediocre.
@Alexzsandros Sure, I didn't expect anything, but that is the point, it was better than expected, in fact some scenes are really good, but get broken or interrupted by the things mentioned above.
May 3, 5:29 PM
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I am with you on the, weird feeling department.
I usually dislike boring and sexualized female characters that just fill the screentime and do nothing else besides that.
But, at least they do the job nicely.
Not that I approve of it though. :D
May 3, 5:37 PM
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In japan you can't get popular without waifus, you don't need to understand it, it's just the formula. Even the most serious show have them.
May 3, 6:05 PM
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Love the show. I usually don’t expect much from a show like this but it surprised me. I’m just going with it and I’m having fun watching it. And yes, all his 18yo students have the hots for him but that’s part of the charm since he’s so reserved. It’s one of a handful of shows I look forward to this season.
May 3, 6:34 PM
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So boring......nothing else
May 3, 7:33 PM
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In japan you can't get popular without waifus, you don't need to understand it, it's just the formula. Even the most serious show have them.
@DaCraziGuy That is a very weak excuse, you could have some cool waifus without breaking the grounded parts and not having all of them running after his dick.
May 3, 8:25 PM
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you joined MAL in 2010, have almost 900 completions and you think THIS is "weird"?



SERIOUSLY???


this show is SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPER tame, EXTREMELY safe and boring as fuck
May 3, 8:30 PM

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zwolf12 said:
On one hand you have realistic sword fighting that seems to be based on actual HEMA fighting, and on the other hand you have designs like THAT:


Than you have a grizzled veteran sword teacher that seems grounded and humble to a fault,

that somehow gets roped into a harem of 10-20 year younger girls that stepped right out of the most cliché sexualized fantasy world you can imagine.

Watching this show feels like you are watching a really good historical show with fantasy elements that for some reason gets interupted every 5 minutes by a commercial for a cheap cliché harem VN with a bunch of basic love interests.
It is such a weird feeling, anybody else got this?

You've summed it up really well. We’re living in a time where truth often feels like something strange or out of place.

On another note, I actually appreciate that the MC doesn't dwell too much on the whole harem situation—it’s a positive, in a way.

I'd love to see him meet a big oppai MILF and find genuine happiness with her, while his students eventually outgrow their infatuation with him. It would be nice to see them realize it was just a phase and move forward with their own lives and growth.
May 3, 9:15 PM

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Is this your first anime ever or something?
May 3, 9:31 PM

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Is this your first anime ever or something?
@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.

@Desi_Nehra
That solution could actually save this show, but I heavily doubt they would ever do this, otherwise they could have just started without the harem in the first place, for some reason they just thought it was a good idea and stuck with it.
May 3, 9:46 PM
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@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.

@Desi_Nehra
That solution could actually save this show, but I heavily doubt they would ever do this, otherwise they could have just started without the harem in the first place, for some reason they just thought it was a good idea and stuck with it.
zwolf12 said:
@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.


uh.. i DID read

so what is this show doing that hasn't been done 100x before?

that's why im confused that this is coming from someone who's clearly an anime vet
May 3, 9:51 PM

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@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.

@Desi_Nehra
That solution could actually save this show, but I heavily doubt they would ever do this, otherwise they could have just started without the harem in the first place, for some reason they just thought it was a good idea and stuck with it.
@zwolf12 You are complaining about the most generic kishi onna design in the most generic fantasy setting as if it was something weird.
Seriously, the only thing that stands out here is that her hair is silver instead of the usual blonde.
We have seen this thing million times before.
PiromyslMay 4, 7:46 AM
May 3, 9:59 PM
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Piromysl said:
Is this your first anime ever or something?


no seriously... like, how you been on MAL 15 years, have almost 900 completions and think THIS is "weird"?

only explaination i can think of is he dodged every fantasy/magic esque harem anime until now

Piromysl said:
@zwolf12 You are complaining about the most generic kishi onna design in the most generic fantasy setting as if it was sobering weird.


her outfit isn't even that sexy and this show has had 0 fanservice, its absurdly tame
May 3, 10:06 PM

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the strange part is how difrent it is from the manga it might as well be a difrent timeline
May 3, 10:23 PM

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EcchiGodMamster said:
Piromysl said:
Is this your first anime ever or something?


no seriously... like, how you been on MAL 15 years, have almost 900 completions and think THIS is "weird"?

only explaination i can think of is he dodged every fantasy/magic esque harem anime until now

Piromysl said:
@zwolf12 You are complaining about the most generic kishi onna design in the most generic fantasy setting as if it was sobering weird.


her outfit isn't even that sexy and this show has had 0 fanservice, its absurdly tame

you dont get it my dude every girl from a fantasy setting needs to be like holo the wise wolf or else is weird (im joking of course)
May 3, 10:26 PM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
Piromysl said:
Is this your first anime ever or something?


no seriously... like, how you been on MAL 15 years, have almost 900 completions and think THIS is "weird"?

only explaination i can think of is he dodged every fantasy/magic esque harem anime until now

Piromysl said:
@zwolf12 You are complaining about the most generic kishi onna design in the most generic fantasy setting as if it was sobering weird.


her outfit isn't even that sexy and this show has had 0 fanservice, its absurdly tame

you dont get it my dude every girl from a fantasy setting needs to be like holo the wise wolf or else is weird (im joking of course)
Bogdan_226 said:
you dont get it my dude every girl from a fantasy setting needs to be like holo the wise wolf or else is weird (im joking of course)


lmao, if this came from someone who was new/newer to anime i'd just roll my eyes and be like "ah shit, here we go again"

but being from a vet, im just kinda baffled and calling possible troll
May 3, 11:59 PM

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I refuse to believe this post is serious
May 4, 1:17 AM
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EXACTLY, I actually 100% agree with you!
This show has a lot of elements to love, the aesthetics are amazing, the MC is great, and the more-technical less-flashy swordfights are something you don't see often. But the addition of all the girls flocking all over the MC, especially Allucia and her thirst, feels really out of place somehow, especially considering all the other aspects has been quite down-to-earth and realistic.
I don't mind shows with harem or pseudo-harem elements. In fact, I actually enjoyed watching a lot of trashy fantasy/isekai shows that have said elements and are self-aware of that. But with this show in particular, it doesn't feel like or intended to be a trashy fantasy show, and that's exactly why I'm so conflicted.
I'm also aware that the way this show handle the pseudo-harem elements is really tame, like so far the MC doesn't even engage in that way with any of the girls and just treats them like coworkers. It's not that I want them to engage in that way, but that's exactly why this show really doesn't need all those pseudo-harem elements at all. You could easily replace some of the girls with actual interesting male characters and it wouldn't affect anything. In a way, all the girls in this show just feels like a cheap marketing strategy. I guess that's what works in the market, but I'm just a bit disappointed yknow.
May 4, 2:09 AM

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This is the main reason I dropped this thing, the clash in tone is jarring and to those saying this is every fantasy anime, I've seen LOTS without harem and even ones with the harem being part of the main plot don't have designs this trashy(arifureta for one, only the bunny is bad, here all are bad).
May 4, 2:57 AM

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zwolf12 said:
@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.


uh.. i DID read

so what is this show doing that hasn't been done 100x before?

that's why im confused that this is coming from someone who's clearly an anime vet
@EcchiGodMamster Maybe you should read more than the first few words than??? Otherwise I will just assume you are trolling.
One last time, the problem aren't the sexualized characters or the harem, the problem is that it has clashing tones, because one side wants to be dark, gritty and realistic and the other is bubblegum harem slob.

You can even see that clash in the character designs themselves, the MC is wearing pretty normal stuff, while other characters (mainly the girls but also some other side characters) are way more colorful and wear nonsensical armour bikinis.
May 4, 6:16 AM
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@EcchiGodMamster Maybe you should read more than the first few words than??? Otherwise I will just assume you are trolling.
One last time, the problem aren't the sexualized characters or the harem, the problem is that it has clashing tones, because one side wants to be dark, gritty and realistic and the other is bubblegum harem slob.

You can even see that clash in the character designs themselves, the MC is wearing pretty normal stuff, while other characters (mainly the girls but also some other side characters) are way more colorful and wear nonsensical armour bikinis.
zwolf12 said:
clashing tones, because one side wants to be dark, gritty and realistic and the other is bubblegum harem slob.

You can even see that clash in the character designs themselves, the MC is wearing pretty normal stuff, while other characters (mainly the girls but also some other side characters) are way more colorful and wear nonsensical armour bikinis.


so tell me again, what is this show doing that hasn't been done 100x before?

why are you singling this show out as if its doing something unique?

did you dodge every fantasy harem battle anime of the past and only watch this one now?
May 4, 9:54 AM
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zwolf12 said:
@DaCraziGuy That is a very weak excuse, you could have some cool waifus without breaking the grounded parts and not having all of them running after his dick.

nobody has a problem when Americans have pregnant babies like Stewie but suddenly has a problem with waifus in Japan
May 4, 11:49 AM
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Nope! The show is saved. I highly recommend From Old Country Bumpkin to Master Swordsman is an amazing anime, and it's one of my favorite fantasy anime of Spring 2025. And I can't wait to see Mushoku Tensei season 3, yeah!?
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@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.

@Desi_Nehra
That solution could actually save this show, but I heavily doubt they would ever do this, otherwise they could have just started without the harem in the first place, for some reason they just thought it was a good idea and stuck with it.
zwolf12 said:
Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.
Don't know the source material but in case of manga I'd bet on editor meddling. Sometimes you see a promising title dragged down by tired tropes as if someone ordered the author to include a couple of items from a checklist or there won't be serialization. I've spent a good chunk of the first episode wondering what is going on with silver haired girl's uniform around her waist. That and the girl with extremely annoying verbal tick (-ssu) wearing tutu skirt. They look bizarre even when you consider main/secondary character custom uniform trope. After couple more episodes I stopped thinking about it because it looks anything remotely decent about this show was a fluke. Trash tropes are piling high. Tutu girl got a sword she wouldn't be able to wield, even if you assume she has enough strength to move it, just because of momentum and mass difference.
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@DaCraziGuy That is a very weak excuse, you could have some cool waifus without breaking the grounded parts and not having all of them running after his dick.
@zwolf12 Hey, I don't make the rules, Japanese people are really hardcore about cuteness and stuff like that, they even complain when the FMC isn't cute enough. Even the most serious show has them, it's rule number 1 like it or not.
Jun 22, 5:42 AM

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dude is 44 and allucia and Surena are late 20s 26 - 30, not so weird at all, and 2women compete for hes affection, that's not a harem

age gap 10-15 years, there are bigger age gaps IRL, once i so a story of a 30y guy who married 80y lady (not rich lady, middle class) and he did mentioned something about their bed life to, so they are sexually active, i was like WTF does this dude has some mental issues? so 10 - 15 gap is nothing-burger
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And that's what makes it great. Pretty girls that are incredibly skilled. Seriously how is a little woman able to swing a zwei like that? Bet she's considered physically stronger than many men in the show. Or are you one of those wokes scared that 40 year olds will pursue 18 year old women for relationships and call them pedos? Because that's been gaining traction lately.
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I totally agree.

With this kind of serious + bland MC character & not ecchi story, you'd expect female chara design like the one in I-Parry-everything anime
https://myanimelist.net/character/245257/Lynneburg_Clays
Standard fantasy girl costume without suggestive clothes nor sexy lines.

While the other anime that features somewhat pervy MC that is https://myanimelist.net/anime/32951/Rokudenashi_Majutsu_Koushi_to_Akashic_Records, you get equally sexy female costumes to match, hell they're so memorable I remembered this anime title instantly only for its unique sexy costume design that I dont think exist in any other titles (though if anyone do know, please tell me)
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I mean, I can't disagree with OP when it comes to armor, but that's been a "running joke" in 100s of anime and games so I (as well as many people) tend to not care much.

Just because this show pays attention to realism in swordfight, doesn't mean realism applies everywhere. Like, Curuni switching her entire style to zweihander and then pretty much effortlessly mastering it (although they said she was training intensively) and swinging it around like a toy sword or sending several men flying. It's ridiculous.

zwolf12 said:
gets roped into a harem of 10-20 year younger girls
I think this is YOUR real issue and reason why you made the thread to begin with. I mean, they way you keep mentioning this clearly says you got upset by age thing, rather than something that's COMMON in many other games and anime.
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I mean, I can't disagree with OP when it comes to armor, but that's been a "running joke" in 100s of anime and games so I (as well as many people) tend to not care much.

Just because this show pays attention to realism in swordfight, doesn't mean realism applies everywhere. Like, Curuni switching her entire style to zweihander and then pretty much effortlessly mastering it (although they said she was training intensively) and swinging it around like a toy sword or sending several men flying. It's ridiculous.

zwolf12 said:
gets roped into a harem of 10-20 year younger girls
I think this is YOUR real issue and reason why you made the thread to begin with. I mean, they way you keep mentioning this clearly says you got upset by age thing, rather than something that's COMMON in many other games and anime.
@Sigmar-Unberogen Not really, the age difference would be a nothingburger, but in combination with the teacher dynamic it makes it weird.
10-20 years difference is nothing special, especially the older both partners get, but 10-20 years with someone you have a power dynamic of a teacher with makes it weird.
Also, did none of the girls ever find someone else in the time they left the dojo? They all act as if Beryl is the only man around.

Watching the last episodes well put together fight (apart from the fantasy of cutting arrows out of the air) I was thinking how much better this sequence could have been if the actually wore more realistic armour and gear.
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zwolf12 said:
I was thinking how much better this sequence could have been if the actually wore more realistic armour and gear.

Dunno, I honestly didn't care about realistic armour when watching. Maybe because I didn't take the show too seriously? I mean, this show didn't really give me "realistic world" vibes. Cool fighting scenes but that's pretty much it when it comes to realism.

Just as I said earlier, there are tons of games and anime where female warriors have like 80-90% body exposed, while males are 100% armored or are only missing helmet or something. I got used to it. What I and other people don't really understand is why you make a big deal out of it in this particular show? As people above stated, you've seen tons of anime, more than I did for instance. You shouldn't be this surprised anime does this shit. Title of this thread says This show is weird, as if this is some rare case when in reality it's very common. What I mean is, it would be fair to have this thread in general discussion forum. I guess you care about all that because this particular show annoyed/offended you more than the others?

When it comes to the girls, you also said "
zwolf12 said:
all of them running after his dick.
". This is also not really fair and honestly IMO hints how the show annoyed/offended you. Again, because this isn't something new when it comes to anime. When it comes to fairness, I say it's not fair since girls are all really tame, especially when compared to other similar shows. They all seem like they want to be praised by MC, be considered his #1 student or whatever, and are arguably fanatical when it comes to respecting him. None of them are actively seeking romantic relationship or make aggressive moves. Heck, even Allucia, who is #1 fan of Beryl and wouldn't mind becoming his wife, is ok with Beryl going for someone else as long as that makes him happy. It's likely many of the girls would be more than eager and happy if Beryl proposed to them one day, but I think they all realize that's not gonna happen since Beryl's simply not that kind of guy; he's not interested. Young girls going for older guys is also nothing new when it comes to anime and this one isn't remotely creepy about it.

It's perfectly fine if you don't enjoy the show, but dunno, the thread is pretty pointless IMO and IMO it's unfair to call it weird for armour and age-gap thing.
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@Piromysl @EcchiGodMamster
Please try to read, I didn't say it is weird because of some oversexualized harem slob, it is weird because the tones clash every 5 minutes with the gritty down to earth style of the rest of the anime, not because harems with nonsensical characters exist, it just doesn't fit together.

Like someone wanted to create a dark realistic medieval fantasy world with sword fighting based on realism, but somewhere down the line someone said 'you know what this world needs, a harem of way too young girls (for the main character) that are cardboard cutouts and get shoehorned into this world', which leads to some horrible clashes in tone.

I think someone that wants to watch a sexy harem the whole realistic fighting stuff and the in depth world is just time lost from looking at their prefered female character, while the other side is annoyed at the out of place harem, so in the end it is a lose lose situation.


uh.. i DID read

so what is this show doing that hasn't been done 100x before?

that's why im confused that this is coming from someone who's clearly an anime vet
@EcchiGodMamster

If it's weird it's weird. Why does it upset you that he wants the mix of serious and ecchi themes done better?
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@EcchiGodMamster

If it's weird it's weird. Why does it upset you that he wants the mix of serious and ecchi themes done better?
sockerdricka said:
If it's weird it's weird. Why does it upset you that he wants the mix of serious and ecchi themes done better?


This show is as overly tame/safe as shows like this can get

ain't nothing ecchi about it, it's barely even fanservicey

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If it's weird it's weird. Why does it upset you that he wants the mix of serious and ecchi themes done better?


This show is as overly tame/safe as shows like this can get

ain't nothing ecchi about it, it's barely even fanservicey

@EcchiGodMamster

If you say so. I still think you're missing his point.

Honorable knight in string not being fanservicey or ecchi (nothing wrong with it but to your point):
https://imgur.com/a/wn54z7l

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