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Kyoto anime arsonist's death penalty finalized as appeal dropped

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Jan 28, 9:06 PM
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no one shared this news here yet so here

A man charged with the 2019 fatal arson attack on a Kyoto Animation Co. studio has dropped his appeal to overturn his death sentence, a Japanese high court said Tuesday, finalizing the verdict over one of the country's worst mass-murders.

Shinji Aoba, 46, was sentenced to death by the Kyoto District Court in January 2024 for the attack that killed 36 people at the internationally famous animation production studio, after the court found him mentally competent to be held accountable for his crimes.

The defense team for Aoba, and subsequently the defendant himself, appealed the death sentence. But Aoba withdrew his appeal on Monday, according to the Osaka High Court, where the trial was set to take place.

The defendant said he carried out the attack under the belief that Kyoto Animation plagiarized a novel he entered in a contest run by the firm. His defense team had sought an acquittal or lesser sentence, arguing Aoba was not of sound mind and was suffering from delusions.

Relatives of the victims remain angry at the defendant, with some questioning the reasoning behind him withdrawing his appeal.

Another bereaved family member wondered what change of heart happened in Aoba, saying, "Is it his way of showing an apology?"

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/01/18768a2e668f-urgent-kyoto-anime-arsonists-death-penalty-finalizes-as-appeal-dropped.html

the arsonist feel guilty i guess he does not want the insanity defense now
Jan 28, 9:07 PM
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"Kyoto anime arsonist's death penalty finalized as appeal dropped"

Wow. A pretty big surprise. :O

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I don't approve of the death penalty anywhere. It teaches people fatal violence is the desired to solve problems. Besides Japan doesnt even have that many murderers or crime in general so it isn't like their prisons are overflowing.
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Jan 28, 10:25 PM
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2019 was only 6 years ago, but it might have been a lifetime ago.

To think how much the world has changed since then is truly something.

Jan 28, 10:25 PM
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Quite the Mandela effect, I thought he had already been executed.
Jan 28, 10:27 PM
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deg said:
the arsonist feel guilty i guess he does not want the insanity defense now

Couldn't it just be suicide in a way, since a lower sentence would still be life in prison with no possibility of parole?
Jan 28, 10:28 PM
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Now he be getting hit by dragon maid flames.
Jan 28, 10:30 PM
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deg said:
the arsonist feel guilty i guess he does not want the insanity defense now

Couldn't it just be suicide in a way, since a lower sentence would still be life in prison with no possibility of parole?
@thewiru ye thats a possibility too end his suffering fast i guess but im not sure if prisons in japan are that bad
Jan 29, 2:51 AM
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Death penalty is a waste, he should be enslaved to work his ass off at a shitty prisoner job without payment.
Jan 29, 7:02 AM

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I don't approve of the death penalty anywhere. It teaches people fatal violence is the desired to solve problems. Besides Japan doesnt even have that many murderers or crime in general so it isn't like their prisons are overflowing.
@traed I think one of the reasons it doesn't have that many murderers might be because it still has the death penalty and so people think twice before committing such acts??
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I don't approve of the death penalty anywhere. It teaches people fatal violence is the desired to solve problems. Besides Japan doesnt even have that many murderers or crime in general so it isn't like their prisons are overflowing.
@traed it teaches people that if you commit horrific crimes your ass is going to be killed.
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Death sentence is better than spending more money to keep this monster alive with the people's money in a prison.
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such a shame for the death sentence.
he can be used for some experiments of chemical and biological.
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@traed it teaches people that if you commit horrific crimes your ass is going to be killed.
@billybub
And it never works because they aren't afraid of that.

Tropisch said:
Death sentence is better than spending more money to keep this monster alive with the people's money in a prison.

The death sentence is expensive not cheap.
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@traed I think one of the reasons it doesn't have that many murderers might be because it still has the death penalty and so people think twice before committing such acts??
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Yet the US is the serial killer mass murderer capital of the world. Japan is a collectivist culture so that is part of what influences crime rates. Also police do mess with numbers some to make people have an illusion of safety.
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The attack happened shortly after I joined MAL in mid-2019 so I was reading much of the news about it on here or through links to media outlets posted here and so those two events (my joining MAL and the arson attack) and that narrow time period are always linked in my mind. Time just continues to fly and history doesn't slow down for a moment.

Anyway, I have nothing against this guy on a personal level as he's done nothing to me or the very few people/things I care about, but I do support the upholding of this execution more just due to my support for maintenance of capital punishment in a general sense. Primarily for the same reason I'm emphatically pro-choice/pro-abortion, which is global population reduction. No reason then to keep alive those that have made these choices.

You can't set about on a path like this and not expect anything and everything in return. If you're ready to kill and you truly think it's justified and necessary, then you should also be prepared to potentially, likely even, die in return. That's how I've always thought about it, for myself as well.

It's also a waste to spend money on feeding, housing, and giving medical treatment and attention for a lifetime to those who've made these choices. I'm sure the guy had his motives and reasoning, but the goal isn't even to demonize and vilify him. The goal of these punishments, in my view, should just be to be cost-efficient and remove another mouth.

May him and the victims both fare better in their next lives.

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And it never works because they aren't afraid of that.

Tropisch said:
Death sentence is better than spending more money to keep this monster alive with the people's money in a prison.

The death sentence is expensive not cheap.
@traed it's expensive in the US. They hang you in Japan...ropes cheap
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And it never works because they aren't afraid of that.

Tropisch said:
Death sentence is better than spending more money to keep this monster alive with the people's money in a prison.

The death sentence is expensive not cheap.
Don't have a horse in this race, but felt like responding nonetheless.
traed said:
And it never works because they aren't afraid of that.

Survivorship bias.
traed said:
The death sentence is expensive not cheap.

This isn't because of the execution methods, but rather because in order to give the death sentence to someone (At least in the US), it requires a VERY long legal procedure to try to prevent the most someone innocent from being executed.
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Thanks for the update, I'm glad that this whole case can finally be closed
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Does it matter? Near Term Human Extinction will happen. And none of you fools will survive it.
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billybub said:
it's expensive in the US. They hang you in Japan...ropes cheap

Japan has nice ropes though. Though maybe im thinking of bondage ropes.

Still it places mental strain on executioners aside from not even being shown an effective deterrent


This research examined the deterrent effects of the death penalty in Japan from 1990 to 2010. There are two main findings.
First, the death penalty deterred neither homicide nor robbery-homicide. This double negative is striking because Japan’s criminal justice system punishes robbery-homicide offenders more harshly than ordinary homicide offenders, and because robbery-homicide tends to be a crime of calculation. In Japan, robbery-homicide is the best crime candidate for finding a deterrent effect of capital punishment, yet even for this thin slice of murder we found no evidence of that influence.
Our second finding is that punitive law reform did deter robbery-homicide in Japan, while the evidence for homicide is mixed. This suggests that “getting tougher” on crime in noncapital ways may prevent some kinds of killing. So might macroeconomic policies that reduce unemployment, though in our models the evidence for this conclusion is stronger for robbery-homicide than for homicide.
What explains the contrasting effects of capital punishment and punitive law reform in Japan? The large majority of cleared homicide cases do not result in a death sentence; they result in a term of imprisonment, the most severe of which is life with the (remote) possibility of parole. Legal reforms to lengthen terms of imprisonment may affect the calculations of more potential offenders than changes in death penalty practice do. Similarly, extending the statute of limitations could have increased potential offenders’ perception of their likelihood of being arrested. And since sentencing standards in Japan’s judiciary have been relatively stable over time and consistent across jurisdictions, changes in the number of death sentences may affect the calculations of potential offenders less than legislative changes in sentencing maxima do.

In our view, the United States does not need much more research about the death penalty and homicide deterrence. Japan does, and Japanese officials should encourage and enable it. In many countries, evidence about deterrence has been largely irrelevant to the ultimate decision about whether to retain the death penalty (Zimring, 2013: x). In Europe (Temkin, 2015), the United States (Garland, 2010), and Asia (Johnson and Zimring, 2009), death penalty policy has been determined mainly by moral sentiments, political developments, and leadership-from-the-front, not by utilitarian considerations. Nonetheless, Japanese officials frequently invoke deterrence as a reason for retaining the death penalty and for carrying out executions. After publication of this study, they cannot credibly claim there is good empirical evidence to support that view, though they might contend that “common sense” leads to the conclusion that the death penalty deters. Once upon a time, common sense also held that the earth is flat.

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I don't want to look into this too much (it's depressing), but I can think of a few reasons why the killer would drop the appeal.

- He can't afford the legal fees
- He no longer thinks the appeal will succeed (and his lawyers don't either)
- He's just tired of all of this

Could be all of the above.
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Interesting, I hadn't heard an update on this story in some time.
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Nobody cares about this. This is just another distraction. Really, we get human extinction relatively soon...and yet nobody is talking about that?
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Nobody cares about this. This is just another distraction. Really, we get human extinction relatively soon...and yet nobody is talking about that?
@DesuMaiden Why bother talking about NTHE when NTHE is just around the corner? Doomerism is just copium for the impending doom.

Respond in Chinese, I know you know how to speak it. 来吧,我知道你能行。你能行,对吧?
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Good riddance. I don't feel an ounce of pity for him.
Bum Bum Dum Dum

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The guy had no clue how the Anime industry works, Animation studios mostly act as contractors being paid for by production committees to animate something. Unless I am wrong, the guy originally thought Kyoto Animation studio was plagiarizing something based on the "Haruhi Suzumiya" Anime? Which was an Anime adopted from a light Novel written by Nagaru Tanigawa. Where the studio itself was being paid to produce it by two Kadokawa entities, Lantis, and KlockWorx. If there was any gripe about plagerizing the guy should have been upset with Nagaru Tanigawa, not some random studio contracted to simply animate a project.

That's like someone thinking some Shoe company stole their idea for a brand new shoe design, so they go and burn down just one random child sweatshop in China that just happens to be contracted to make the shoes for the company.
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It is no surprise that the NSA glowies caught him.
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The guy had no clue how the Anime industry works, Animation studios mostly act as contractors being paid for by production committees to animate something. Unless I am wrong, the guy originally thought Kyoto Animation studio was plagiarizing something based on the "Haruhi Suzumiya" Anime? Which was an Anime adopted from a light Novel written by Nagaru Tanigawa. Where the studio itself was being paid to produce it by two Kadokawa entities, Lantis, and KlockWorx. If there was any gripe about plagerizing the guy should have been upset with Nagaru Tanigawa, not some random studio contracted to simply animate a project.

That's like someone thinking some Shoe company stole their idea for a brand new shoe design, so they go and burn down just one random child sweatshop in China that just happens to be contracted to make the shoes for the company.
@ColourWheel No, it was like Tsurune mostly, and some things in Free, and K-on!. He did send his 2 stories to KyoAni contests. He started writing because he got moved by the Suzumiya anime.
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@ColourWheel No, it was like Tsurune mostly, and some things in Free, and K-on!. He did send his 2 stories to KyoAni contests. He started writing because he got moved by the Suzumiya anime.
@Sasori56483

Either way Tsurune was adopted from a Light novel and Kyoto Animation was not funding itself to produce it. As well neither Free or K-on! was being self contracted to produce it. Which means Kyoto Animation basically had no part in choosing any of the three projects to be produced in the 1st place.

The only project Kyoto Animation has ever helped self fund according to the MAL database as a production committee was an "InuYasha" Movie from 2003.
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Either way Tsurune was adopted from a Light novel and Kyoto Animation was not funding itself to produce it. As well neither Free or K-on! was being self contracted to produce it. Which means Kyoto Animation basically had no part in choosing any of the three projects to be produced in the 1st place.

The only project Kyoto Animation has ever helped self fund according to the MAL database as a production committee was an "InuYasha" Movie from 2003.
@ColourWheel Not really, KAエスマ文庫 is a KyotoAnimation branch. Some other guy won the contest. I have no idea why someone would put fire at anyone for copying them.
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This forum actually reminded me that Haruhi still never got a s3. Never underestimate the curse of the ln anime to never get finished no matter how popular they are.
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traed said:
I don't approve of the death penalty anywhere. It teaches people fatal violence is the desired to solve problems.


It is.


traed said:
Besides Japan doesnt even have that many murderers or crime in general so it isn't like their prisons are overflowing.


They will be overflowing if they stop.


traed said:
The death sentence is expensive not cheap.


10 cent bullet < millions of dollars in paying prison guards for a lifetime sentence, food, medical, prison repair bills.
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What a riveting argument. See my previous post for details.

Valyrian1124 said:
They will be overflowing if they stop.

There has not been many people in Japan to even get the death penalty. You are just making this up.

Valyrian1124 said:
10 cent bullet < millions of dollars in paying prison guards for a lifetime sentence, food, medical, prison repair bills.

By that logic everyone should be executed because murdering them is far cheaper. Most efficient way would be just poison the water supply and get the entire country at once. That surely will eliminate all crime, along with every living thing.
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billybub said:
@traed it's expensive in the US. They hang you in Japan...ropes cheap

Valyrian1124 said:
10 cent bullet < millions of dollars in paying prison guards for a lifetime sentence, food, medical, prison repair bills.

Why do people in this thread think the cost of death penalty is on the execution method, and not on the long legal process needed for someone to get executed (And believe me, it's worth having that long legal process so you don't kill an innocent)?
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@traed
I don't approve of the death penalty anywhere. It teaches people fatal violence is the desired to solve problems. Besides Japan doesnt even have that many murderers or crime in general so it isn't like their prisons are overflowing.


traed said:
that logic everyone should be executed because murdering them is far cheaper. Most efficient way would be just poison the water supply and get the entire country at once. That surely will eliminate all crime, along with every living thing.


@traed
And it never works because they aren't afraid of that.


Stupid dumbass Bamar ! you need to stop talking Golly Goodness you idiot! Internet is a mistake for jungler paddy munching 3rd worlder living like you ~ the whole point of Death Sentence to lower the crime doesn't matter if they scare or not ! death penalty is far cheaper than feeding a sub-animal for its whole life.

I hope somebody someone criminal doing EFFTUP shit to your closest dear one with misery death and pleasure himself with that very cold dead body , Yeah lets see how you gonna scream that time.

Everyone of those in liberal cities are the people like you, either Europe or US...their crime rates are high as always , so much for MUH LIVING THING they keep releasing repeating offense criminals into society.
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Not gonna shed any tears over this. The world will frankly be a better place without him in it.
Take care of yourself

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