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anime pirates can be called parasites?
yes
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no
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i do not know
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174 votes
Sep 10, 2024 1:57 AM
#1
so ye title says it all do not forget to vote, i voted i do not know for now |
Sep 10, 2024 1:57 AM
#2
"anime pirates can be called parasites?" Sure. |
Sep 10, 2024 1:59 AM
#3
Sep 10, 2024 2:10 AM
#4
Reply to Daviljoe193
As one of the people who does the naughty, I don't mind being called a parasite. 🦟
@Daviljoe193 same i do not mind being called a parasite of society |
Sep 10, 2024 2:18 AM
#5
If many anime will be available in my national language than maybe we can talk about possibilities, parasite of the society, which society x)? The funniest part of that all is that watching pirated anime is legal in Polish law, only uploading is illegal, so I watch all of anime stuff legally. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:22 AM
#6
It's legit to be called that, the question is, do you care? |
Sep 10, 2024 2:25 AM
#7
A parasite is an organism that has sustained contact with another organism to the detriment of the host organism. I don't think that this accurately describes copyright infringement. And neither does the following. Social parasitism was considered a political crime in the Soviet Union, where individuals accused of living off the efforts of others or society were prosecuted. The Soviet Union, proclaiming itself a workers' state, mandated that every capable adult engage in work until retirement, theoretically eliminating unemployment. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:26 AM
#8
Well in France you can watch on torrent but not download so nope I still in the law. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:32 AM
#9
Reply to removed-user
Well in France you can watch on torrent but not download so nope I still in the law.
@Kirika_Madeleine how does that law work since torrenting is literally downloading? |
Sep 10, 2024 2:32 AM
#10
It is not like paying matters because relatively little money goes towards the animators/studios producing the shows. Most of the money goes towards the anime distributors and retailers (like Amazon or Crunchyroll). The real parasites are the capitalist elites, who do nothing and get everything. Why pay for copyrighted stuff when capitalism is at the root of all the world's problems. Capitalism is the ultimate scam/pyramid scheme. Not that I care because Near Term Human Extinction is happening soon enough, so fuck the elites. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:39 AM
#11
Reply to deg
@Kirika_Madeleine how does that law work since torrenting is literally downloading?
@deg opps I mean I can watch on pirate sites I just said torrent because I don't want to address it a pirate sites I want to be secrets, I can watch but not download the law is France is called HADOPI law which is you can't download since need to protected copyright but watching in pirate site is not illegal. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:43 AM
#12
Sep 10, 2024 2:43 AM
#13
I'd pirate less if blu-rays weren't so expensive. I don't like streaming, I prefer to own it. I still buy blu-rays or dvds sometimes, I think it supports studios more than streaming even if I pirate stuff. |
Sep 10, 2024 2:45 AM
#14
Man do people really have nothing better to do than to make pointless threads like these ? Use your brain for 2 seconds as to why people need to pirate. |
Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
Sep 10, 2024 2:47 AM
#15
Reply to Morningstar991
Man do people really have nothing better to do than to make pointless threads like these ? Use your brain for 2 seconds as to why people need to pirate.
@Morningstar991 make better threads then be the change you want to see |
Sep 10, 2024 2:55 AM
#16
Reply to deg
@Morningstar991 make better threads then be the change you want to see
@deg I do when I feel the need to.Also UT>Quake. |
Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
Sep 10, 2024 3:00 AM
#17
Reply to Morningstar991
@deg I do when I feel the need to.Also UT>Quake.
@Morningstar991 this are better threads to you? https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?cat=forum&q=&u=Morningstar991&uloc=2&loc=-1 |
Sep 10, 2024 3:06 AM
#18
Reply to deg
@Morningstar991 this are better threads to you? https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?cat=forum&q=&u=Morningstar991&uloc=2&loc=-1
@deg Yes.If you have watched Soultaker finding something similar in art/story-telling outside of EVA is very hard,so it is a thread to actually promote such avant garde anime and find similar ones. 2.Highway Jenny is carried by music (imho great) so I don't see the fault in making it easier for someone who's watching to find it considering that they aren't listed anywhere (at least in english) and is a very obscure OVA. 3.I find that exchanging AMV/edits is like exchanging music except on a smaller spectrum. 4.LF german dubs is a valid interest,that others share as well,unlike a thread about piracy which is almost 100% made by an american since you people will throw money at literally anything. 5.Do i really need to spell out the reason for making a thread about S2 for an anime ? Any other question you might have ? |
Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
Sep 10, 2024 3:07 AM
#19
They're less parasitic than Netflix and Crunchyroll. |
Sep 10, 2024 3:08 AM
#20
Reply to Morningstar991
@deg Yes.If you have watched Soultaker finding something similar in art/story-telling outside of EVA is very hard,so it is a thread to actually promote such avant garde anime and find similar ones.
2.Highway Jenny is carried by music (imho great) so I don't see the fault in making it easier for someone who's watching to find it considering that they aren't listed anywhere (at least in english) and is a very obscure OVA.
3.I find that exchanging AMV/edits is like exchanging music except on a smaller spectrum.
4.LF german dubs is a valid interest,that others share as well,unlike a thread about piracy which is almost 100% made by an american since you people will throw money at literally anything.
5.Do i really need to spell out the reason for making a thread about S2 for an anime ?
Any other question you might have ?
2.Highway Jenny is carried by music (imho great) so I don't see the fault in making it easier for someone who's watching to find it considering that they aren't listed anywhere (at least in english) and is a very obscure OVA.
3.I find that exchanging AMV/edits is like exchanging music except on a smaller spectrum.
4.LF german dubs is a valid interest,that others share as well,unlike a thread about piracy which is almost 100% made by an american since you people will throw money at literally anything.
5.Do i really need to spell out the reason for making a thread about S2 for an anime ?
Any other question you might have ?
@Morningstar991 and this thread is about how the capitalist society sees online anime pirates so whats pointless about it? you think there is no social stigma for piracy? |
Sep 10, 2024 3:13 AM
#21
Reply to deg
@Morningstar991 and this thread is about how the capitalist society sees online anime pirates so whats pointless about it? you think there is no social stigma for piracy?
@deg It's a topic that has been brought up ad infinitum almost always by the same american/west EU capitalists in every media.There is no social stigma on piracy where I am from. |
Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
Sep 10, 2024 3:15 AM
#22
Reply to Morningstar991
@deg It's a topic that has been brought up ad infinitum almost always by the same american/west EU capitalists in every media.There is no social stigma on piracy where I am from.
@Morningstar991 meaning there is no conclusion to the debate still honestly forums are repetitive heck social media is repetitive so i do not see any harm in discussing it with new people since there is always new people on a given thread |
Sep 10, 2024 3:20 AM
#23
Reply to deg
@Morningstar991 meaning there is no conclusion to the debate still
honestly forums are repetitive heck social media is repetitive so i do not see any harm in discussing it with new people since there is always new people on a given thread
honestly forums are repetitive heck social media is repetitive so i do not see any harm in discussing it with new people since there is always new people on a given thread
@deg While I see your point,I am just tired of seeing it personally,hence the more offensive approach. A conclusion on piracy is hard,for example a place I am more versed in than anime is video games.Abandonware are games with no dev support and are no longer sold anywhere,so I don't see how even in a capitalist society that would be considered "parasitic" or "stealing" but studios like Ubuysoft want you to think otherwise.Their solutions ? Online only games even if singleplayer.Result ? Richer people still buy it but the majority turn away from the franchise or the company as a whole. In a way piracy is like gambling,it will continue to exist even if it's moderated.The other alternatives are either 1984 or online entertainment becomes only for those who can afford it. |
Can I Still Go To Heaven If I Kill Myself? |
Sep 10, 2024 3:22 AM
#24
Anyone or anything that is large in numbers, does a lot of harm and damage, I'd call them as parasites too. |
Sep 10, 2024 3:24 AM
#25
Reply to Morningstar991
@deg While I see your point,I am just tired of seeing it personally,hence the more offensive approach.
A conclusion on piracy is hard,for example a place I am more versed in than anime is video games.Abandonware are games with no dev support and are no longer sold anywhere,so I don't see how even in a capitalist society that would be considered "parasitic" or "stealing" but studios like Ubuysoft want you to think otherwise.Their solutions ? Online only games even if singleplayer.Result ? Richer people still buy it but the majority turn away from the franchise or the company as a whole.
In a way piracy is like gambling,it will continue to exist even if it's moderated.The other alternatives are either 1984 or online entertainment becomes only for those who can afford it.
A conclusion on piracy is hard,for example a place I am more versed in than anime is video games.Abandonware are games with no dev support and are no longer sold anywhere,so I don't see how even in a capitalist society that would be considered "parasitic" or "stealing" but studios like Ubuysoft want you to think otherwise.Their solutions ? Online only games even if singleplayer.Result ? Richer people still buy it but the majority turn away from the franchise or the company as a whole.
In a way piracy is like gambling,it will continue to exist even if it's moderated.The other alternatives are either 1984 or online entertainment becomes only for those who can afford it.
@Morningstar991 sure but you can always ignore threads you hate or like i said make better threads yourself so do not take this thread too personally |
Sep 10, 2024 3:26 AM
#26
Sep 10, 2024 7:31 AM
#27
Paying for anime is stupid, since you are just giving your hard-earned money to the real parasites aka the big corporations that control the distribution/sales of anime. Very little of the money paid for anime actually goes to the studios that make the shows. Most of it goes to Amazon, Crunchyroll or whatever other company is selling anime. I give capitalism a big middle finger by pirating all of my anime. U mad bro? |
Sep 10, 2024 7:48 AM
#28
All the legal animes in my country are on Netflix and in a very small number and there are no TV channels that broadcast any. What choice do I have? Me, personally, I can watch them in English, but I would rather watch them in my native language, Romanian. Keep in mind that as a rule, my country only subbs them, so the original audio is still there. I would be willing to pay if a platform had gogoanime's catalogue available in Romanian, but alas that is simply not the case. Besides, I prefer watching the show and then supporting the industry by buying manga and anime figures if I really like the show (e.g. Yu Yu Hakusho - have all the boys as figures and 19 volumes in my collection). |
Sep 10, 2024 7:56 AM
#29
Not really. If anything a mutually beneficial parasite. |
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Sep 10, 2024 8:45 AM
#30
Almost but not quite, because they don't take away any resources. |
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Sep 10, 2024 8:46 AM
#31
Sep 10, 2024 9:16 AM
#32
@animegamer245 I wonder if you're aware that although it is colloquially referred to as such, downloading or streaming a pirate-copy of a work isn't actually itself piracy. Hopefully you are, because otherwise your argument is really bad. |
Sep 10, 2024 5:02 PM
#33
From a strict definition yes. Anime pirates rely on people watching legally so they themselves have anime to watch. Be it anime fans in Japan watching anime on TV or streaming services, those who buy blu-rays, or western fans that watch via streaming. Anime companies make more anime because there is a market that makes them money, be it the licensing fees, TV/streaming revenue, or people buying merch. Also not to mention that they rely on streaming services to provide same day translations for them, which is why even the mods of pirate sites tell people to watch anime legally if they are able to, cause even they realize how important modern day streaming is for them. |
Sep 10, 2024 5:04 PM
#34
The real parasites are the executives who make all the money while the animators and studio make very little, not some random guy pirating some old obscure show that isn't legally licensed in their country |
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Sep 10, 2024 5:16 PM
#35
I pay for Crunchyroll and then download the episodes via torrents because watching on CR (or any website for that matter) sucks. Ideally I wish I could buy digital copies of anime I really like as files I could store in order to both guarantee I can rewatch it forever and to support the specific IP. Sort of like I already do via torrents, but legally. BluRays waste space, are annoying to rip (watching directly off optical media is pain, so I always rip everything first), take a long time to ship, and their release is often delayed simply due to the logistics of it being physical media. |
Sep 11, 2024 3:14 AM
#36
The term “parasite” is used to describe NEETs in anime and in reality due to our perceived lack of contribution to society. This label reflects a societal view that we NEETs, who often rely on family wealth or social welfare without actively participating in the workforce, are seen as burdensome or unproductive specially in Japanese and Asian countries where everyone is expected to work no exceptions... That brings me to the anime Heaven’s Memo Pad” it showcase the lives of NEETs and our unique contributions to society by solving mysteries, settling disputes and finding solutions to problems. And Madao Despite being down on his luck, often provides support to his friends. His resilience and ability to find humor in his misfortunes inspire others to keep going.. Hasegawa participates in a quiz show and wins the prize money, which he selflessly gives to a little girl living in poverty. This act of kindness highlights his compassionate nature, despite his own struggles... Yea I rather root for the neet parasite like this over the wage-slaves of society.. In the When Will Madao Bloom episode, Hasegawa helps Daigoro’s family reunite. His efforts to bring the family back together show his deep sense of empathy and self sacrifice to help others. I am trying to make you understand that even even someone labeled as “hopeless parasite ” can make a significant positive impact on the lives of others and contribute in their own way.. Like Madao Hasegawa, I too with my life stories lessons, often share valuable advice and wisdom with younger anime fans...i also offer coaching advice on how to shoot basketball and how to score in soccer to local kids... I also tell them scary stories about failing in life. So I despite being a pirate and sort of neet I help others and contribute to the society Just like these neet characters, While piracy can harm the industry financially, it has also helped in spreading anime’s popularity globally and connected fans. Lots of Anime fans discovered anime through pirated content.. A true parasite don't contribute to anything, only harms. |
Sep 11, 2024 4:24 AM
#37
I heard pirates mostly robbed Spanish ships full of stolen gold. Wolves are no parasites, they keep the ecosystem in balance... |
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. |
Sep 11, 2024 5:17 AM
#38
The real parasites are the rich elites. Who do nothing at all. And they get everything they want. And they also make all of the laws. And they also break the laws they create. People, who pirate anime, are giving capitalism a big middle finger. Anyone, who supports copyright law, likes sucking the elite peoples' dicks. Keep on supporting your own enslavement aka capitalism, you fools. Not that it matters, because Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE) will make sure that no humans will exist on this planet in the relatively near future. I give a middle finger to the rich elites because they are shitting their pants about NTHE. So much so that the elites are vehemently denying that NTHE will happen. They are censoring and hiding the reality of NTHE from the masses. |
Sep 11, 2024 7:19 AM
#39
Reply to DesuMaiden
The real parasites are the rich elites. Who do nothing at all. And they get everything they want. And they also make all of the laws. And they also break the laws they create.
People, who pirate anime, are giving capitalism a big middle finger. Anyone, who supports copyright law, likes sucking the elite peoples' dicks. Keep on supporting your own enslavement aka capitalism, you fools.
Not that it matters, because Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE) will make sure that no humans will exist on this planet in the relatively near future. I give a middle finger to the rich elites because they are shitting their pants about NTHE.
So much so that the elites are vehemently denying that NTHE will happen. They are censoring and hiding the reality of NTHE from the masses.
People, who pirate anime, are giving capitalism a big middle finger. Anyone, who supports copyright law, likes sucking the elite peoples' dicks. Keep on supporting your own enslavement aka capitalism, you fools.
Not that it matters, because Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE) will make sure that no humans will exist on this planet in the relatively near future. I give a middle finger to the rich elites because they are shitting their pants about NTHE.
So much so that the elites are vehemently denying that NTHE will happen. They are censoring and hiding the reality of NTHE from the masses.
@DesuMaiden Now THIS is a certified DesuMaiden moment. |
Daviljoe193Sep 11, 2024 7:25 AM
Sep 11, 2024 8:10 AM
#40
I prefer to be called a thief, but I guess parasite does fit the description to some extent. I've never actually paid for anything anime related. I guess video games got me into piracy when I was young. Ironically, I spend a shitload of money on video games nowadays. |
Sep 11, 2024 8:41 AM
#41
Honestly, if it's a question of big companies, I don't mind so much that there are people who pirate their products, but doing so towards writers or mangaka, especially if they're not particularly well-known or rich, seems quite vile to me, they certainly deserve to be called parasites in a derogatory way.(I know I deserve to be called that when I pirate a single artist's content) |
Sep 11, 2024 8:44 AM
#42
Reply to DesuMaiden
The real parasites are the rich elites. Who do nothing at all. And they get everything they want. And they also make all of the laws. And they also break the laws they create.
People, who pirate anime, are giving capitalism a big middle finger. Anyone, who supports copyright law, likes sucking the elite peoples' dicks. Keep on supporting your own enslavement aka capitalism, you fools.
Not that it matters, because Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE) will make sure that no humans will exist on this planet in the relatively near future. I give a middle finger to the rich elites because they are shitting their pants about NTHE.
So much so that the elites are vehemently denying that NTHE will happen. They are censoring and hiding the reality of NTHE from the masses.
People, who pirate anime, are giving capitalism a big middle finger. Anyone, who supports copyright law, likes sucking the elite peoples' dicks. Keep on supporting your own enslavement aka capitalism, you fools.
Not that it matters, because Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE) will make sure that no humans will exist on this planet in the relatively near future. I give a middle finger to the rich elites because they are shitting their pants about NTHE.
So much so that the elites are vehemently denying that NTHE will happen. They are censoring and hiding the reality of NTHE from the masses.
@DesuMaiden 18 to go and you get to 5k. You would have reached your goal 3 months before what you expected. Congratulations! |
Sep 11, 2024 3:20 PM
#43
deg said: anime pirates can be called parasites? Such a term is obviously very derogatory and very fitting. Either being called a Parasite or a Leech is fitting in my opinion when it comes to internet piracy of any degree. Even in the world of Torrents the term 'Leech' is a specific technical term used for Users who are downloading files through torrents. Where Users are labeled "Leeches" when they primarily download data and contribute little or nothing to the upload process. Though a word like Parasite could be taken more literally too when dealing with the fact piracy does harm to the very industry that produces Anime. How a Parasite will take advantage of others without contributing anything of value in return and at the expense of the others well being (Harming the very industry that produces Anime). If you have ever wondered why some Anime Franchises that seem extremely popular are likely not getting some continuation, chances are it's due to not enough legit viewership to support another season. Piracy in this aspect is extremely harmful when it can easily rob the chance of future production of a franchise. |
ColourWheelSep 11, 2024 3:57 PM
Sep 12, 2024 10:31 PM
#44
No. It is mutualism/symbiosis for electricity, internet, smartphone, PC, streaming companies. It is commensalism towards manga and anime creators and it can also be mutualism if the pirate advertises the product even without buying it. In parasitism there is damage to the creators of manga and anime, not selling you their products does not damage them, it makes them miss out on a possible income from you but it is a hypothetical and virtual damage not real, a pirate could not even buy if this could be the only option to access the goods. |
Sep 13, 2024 12:27 AM
#45
I wonder if zoomers understand that without piracy, they would likely not even know what anime is, since piracy is what made anime big enough in the west to eventually "go legit" anyway. Also I don't think your Crunchyroll subscription gives as much money to the actual creators as you think it does. Likely most of that money goes to Crunchyroll itself and it's shareholders. |
Sep 13, 2024 12:33 AM
#46
Give me fair regional pricing for blurays and I will support the anime industry. No? Then I will pirate until I die. >B-But just pay for crunchy subscription it's cheaper than a pizza you fatass Not paying money to watch bad quality streamed anime that also has censoring compared to bluray. |
Sep 13, 2024 12:43 AM
#47
To not bore you with long speeches, eh no. On a fun note, Media piracy if left only to digital is actually more ecologically friendly than buying physical media, or giving your money to big corpo rich people. So you are saving the planet by being a media pirate. Good job to anyone who is are going against rampant consumerism and late stage capitalism, those are the actual real parasites in this discussion. |
TechnopunkSep 13, 2024 12:55 AM
"Don't let your memes be dreams."- Ancient Japanese proverb, probably |
Sep 13, 2024 1:29 AM
#48
Parasites are harmful. Downloading things and watching them in disregard for copyright is not harmful. The only thing you can meaningfully accuse people of in this area is failing to provide financial support to the industry which entertains them based on a claim they have a responsibility to do this, but this entirely a matter of how you spend and is not affected by how you "pirate". And even someone who pirates and only pirates is not harming the metaphorical organism, they're just not giving anything back. Unless you mean people who sell counterfeit DVDs and such. Those guys are definitely parasites. |
Sep 13, 2024 1:41 AM
#49
You gotta love this false moral high ground you people put yourself on, i swear half of you exude more Redditor energy than actual Redditors, with that being said no they should not. Hope that helps |
Sep 13, 2024 1:42 AM
#50
Probably. I’m not going to moralize and say I’m fighting against the capitalist system by pirating—I just like free shit. |
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