does age matter?
always
19.0%
11
often
29.3%
17
sometimes
32.8%
19
rarely
8.6%
5
never
5.2%
3
i do not know
5.2%
3
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| For some things age often or always matters and for others it rarely or never matters, overall sometimes I guess. |
| I fully agree with what the OP says. He is 100% correct. |
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| No. I was a stupid kid when I was 11 and now I am 21 and am still a stupid kid. |
| Depends what it is. The rated stuff usually are rather guidelines. No one can forbid a parent of a minor buying their child an 18+ film if they allow it and judge that they would be able to handle it. However, it might not necessarily be a good idea to do so. That is not to say that people with 18+ suddenly become capable to handle everything, it's more a question of the individual person and how desensitized they want to be In other aspects, common sense would dictate to at least wait until their bodies are developed for it. Though due to the social stigma, even in countries with lower AoC rules, it's more advisable to only think of stuff like that with people in a more similar life situation to you. But I wouldn't hold anyone off if it's mutual Another example includes what you can expect from people based on their physical and mental fitness. We have come far to not have children and young teens needing to do any form of work for their survival in most of the West at least. On the other side, there are also jobs that require you to have a reasonable amount of mental sharpness and/or physical fitness with or without adequate reaction time |
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@Noboru ye i do not agree with child labor too its cruel imo and age of consent should be 14-16 like most countries have
| @deg Exactly, though it does not exclude the possibility of younger teens working in a limited scope like spreading out flyers for a bit of pocket money or doing other kinds of minor work for the experience It's also a reasonable enough AoC as well |
| I do not like to talk to people that still have a high school mentality, that usually goes away around 20-22, but for some it lasts their whole life. |
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| Well, yeah, obviously. Don't diddle kids. Don't let your kids watch violent / sexual content, etc. |
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| No it does not. Lol. Why does age matter? |
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| Chronological age is pretty disconnected to things that actually matter a persons character, mental/emotional capacity, and physical ability which can all greatly differ on the individual level. For example. This senior citizen woman is probably more fit and agile than a lot of you |
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| I'd say yes, but not to the same extent that others who agree with me do. I feel like a lot of age ratings are needlessly strict and underestimate what people are able to deal with, but I also wouldn't show a 9-year-old A Serbian Film or Salo. |
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Amityblight said: Not an ideal situation, but actual love can still blossom from itPeople say shit like that are very suspicious. They don't have any kids or younger people they care about. Imagine 14 year old daughter hit on by 30 year old. Besides, it's also the other way around: young teen girls being interested in getting together with guys in their 20s or 30s and hitting on them. It's not an one-way track |
| Parental guidance and age ratings are merely enforced coddling. One of the first things I did when I got access to the internet at the age of six or seven was to go out of my way to search for porn, erotic flash games, gore and other "unsuitable" web content. Restricting your kid to only having access to sterile, pastille media until they're an adult will do them more harm than good, potentially conditioning them to be too mentally fragile to rationally digest or discuss any subjects they now finally have the opportunity to expose themselves to. |
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@traed Just because she can doesn't she should. Mental/emotional capacity do a lot do with age
"age of consent should be 14-16"
False. Most countries consent age is 18, ones who do have lower age of consent have laws in place so people don't abuse children. Say in France consent 15 without a law but sex physical and mental. 15 year kid not mentally there.
People say shit like that are very suspicious. They don't have any kids or younger people they care about. Imagine 14 year old daughter hit on by 30 year old.
"age of consent should be 14-16"
False. Most countries consent age is 18, ones who do have lower age of consent have laws in place so people don't abuse children. Say in France consent 15 without a law but sex physical and mental. 15 year kid not mentally there.
People say shit like that are very suspicious. They don't have any kids or younger people they care about. Imagine 14 year old daughter hit on by 30 year old.
| Not chronological age itself but biological age which will differ not just by individual but throughout different cells. I didnt even mention or imply age of consent rather was speaking quite generally. I dont even believe laws should be based on generalizations. Time and time through history whenever laws are based on generalizations of people on their demographics it isnt for the benefit of those people but for their oppression. When it comes to age of consent it places pressure on young people to have sex by a certain age and it makes them not be as cautious as they should be around someone their own age yet most rapists start as teenagers. Many teen males are very pushy and manipulative for sex in part because the social pressure placed on them. The denial of the the reality of desires and feelings of youth does disservice of having them all navigate blindly together getting hurt in the process more than need be either emotionally or physically. Those denying the reality that young people have sex regardless of law and are no less predators than someone older than them is problematic. Regardless of age a society that can't openly discuss intimacy without harsh judgment leads to situations where the involved parties are made more isolated and vulnerable which fosters abuse. If someone over age of consent is raped by someone under it they are given an extra feeling of shame for it and fear feeling they have to keep silent or face imprisonment themselves whether or not that is actually the case because accusations can be made and who is going to believe them even if they are smaller than the assailant because they are already painted with a wide brush because of their age. I dont think problems like these should be continued to be ignored. Is it really 18? Doesnt seem like that so i checked and i dont know where you got you got that idea. Apparently there is 42 countries that their AoC are 18 or higher and 150 that are 17 or lower (seems they included the US as 16 due to most number of states being 16) and seems Japan wasn't updated in the list yet though but that doesnt change results much. Not sure i want to try and manually calculate the average but i am curious now a bit and seems it averages to around 15.8 and 16 is also the most prevalent set age in 74 countries being more than 18 at 39...though this is if I dont also include countries that instead of an age of consent law only have an age of marriage law and this is also only looking at governmental law of the current year and not religious law as well....this is also setting aside the governmental and geopolitical influences of these numbers which are not inherently representing public opinion (seeing near all countries are not true democracies) and regardless the problem arises of appeal to majority as a fallacy seeing how culture influences people's views. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/age-of-consent-by-country Plus age of consent laws often has exceptions for the nature of the relationship, close in age, parental approval, court approval, and marriage so even for a single country it is more complicated than just a single age when it comes to that specific kind of law. |
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Parental guidance and age ratings are merely enforced coddling. One of the first things I did when I got access to the internet at the age of six or seven was to go out of my way to search for porn, erotic flash games, gore and other "unsuitable" web content. Restricting your kid to only having access to sterile, pastille media until they're an adult will do them more harm than good, potentially conditioning them to be too mentally fragile to rationally digest or discuss any subjects they now finally have the opportunity to expose themselves to.
| @Archean-Return Age ratings I find so vague. A better system would be individual ratings for individual things and people to decide on their own what they want to see. What you describe is more on the extreme though. The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once. Not that I entirely am against the general sentiment of not being overbearing sheltering them till they turn 18 then kick them out to fend for themselves unprepared. |
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@Archean-Return
Age ratings I find so vague. A better system would be individual ratings for individual things and people to decide on their own what they want to see.
What you describe is more on the extreme though. The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once. Not that I entirely am against the general sentiment of not being overbearing sheltering them till they turn 18 then kick them out to fend for themselves unprepared.
Age ratings I find so vague. A better system would be individual ratings for individual things and people to decide on their own what they want to see.
What you describe is more on the extreme though. The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once. Not that I entirely am against the general sentiment of not being overbearing sheltering them till they turn 18 then kick them out to fend for themselves unprepared.
traed said: The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once. Which falls down to individual responsibility at that point. I certainly never got more than I asked for, and anything I wasn't interested in or understanding of at the time was easily clicked off. Children should be educated by their parents on objectively malicious aspects of the internet, such as phishing scams and viruses, but shouldn't be forcefully restricted from exploring thematically mature online media by broadband shields or parental controls. Merely informing your offspring that they may stumble upon content they are not used to seeing on children's television channels is all the parental guidance they need in that context. I'd wager parents could do a more sufficient job of that than most schools do, honestly. As far as I'm aware, there's barely a kid on the planet who wasn't looking up how to bypass parental controls on internet devices at some point. Now, there exist chat services like Discord nowadays (which have a lower barrier to entry than IRC) that could easily be used to take advantage of children, due to how effortless a platform it is to download and communicate on, but live chat/messaging services like social media are not the same as static video and video-game media. Ensuring your child doesn't fall prey to scams, viruses and meet-ups that could have very real consequences is something parents should be vigilant about, but preventing them from playing first-person shooters and watching seinen anime is absurd. |
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| Why are so many people defending children's access to porn and sexual relationships with adults? |
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Why are so many people defending children's access to porn and sexual relationships with adults?
| @WaffleMaster89 Because this site is full of degenerates. You also had people talking about how they fucked / wanted to fuck their sister in another thread. |
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traed said:
The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once.
The internet just isnt structured enough for them to actually choose what they see so they will get more than they asked for too much at once.
Which falls down to individual responsibility at that point. I certainly never got more than I asked for, and anything I wasn't interested in or understanding of at the time was easily clicked off. Children should be educated by their parents on objectively malicious aspects of the internet, such as phishing scams and viruses, but shouldn't be forcefully restricted from exploring thematically mature online media by broadband shields or parental controls. Merely informing your offspring that they may stumble upon content they are not used to seeing on children's television channels is all the parental guidance they need in that context. I'd wager parents could do a more sufficient job of that than most schools do, honestly.
As far as I'm aware, there's barely a kid on the planet who wasn't looking up how to bypass parental controls on internet devices at some point. Now, there exist chat services like Discord nowadays (which have a lower barrier to entry than IRC) that could easily be used to take advantage of children, due to how effortless a platform it is to download and communicate on, but live chat/messaging services like social media are not the same as static video and video-game media. Ensuring your child doesn't fall prey to scams, viruses and meet-ups that could have very real consequences is something parents should be vigilant about, but preventing them from playing first-person shooters and watching seinen anime is absurd.
| @Archean-Return I'd question how much they can do on their own without the right framework. Guidance of course can help, yes. |
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Because this site is full of degenerates. You also had people talking about how they fucked / wanted to fuck their sister in another thread.
Because this site is full of degenerates. You also had people talking about how they fucked / wanted to fuck their sister in another thread.
| @DreamWindow That's awkward as someone with five older sisters lol. |
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Why are so many people defending children's access to porn and sexual relationships with adults?
| @WaffleMaster89 I literally throw up in my mouth when i saw OP say that. 2 bozos defended it. So gross. Especially gross since trafficking young girls happens a lot in the Philippines. Documentaries on this shit. In Latin America young girls are sexual molested and harassed by older men nearly on a daily. 15 years old ain't no woman. |
MissHeedApr 1, 2024 4:55 PM
| For the vast majority of things then yes. |
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Amityblight said: Not a stupid point, besides, that's infantizing young teens. 14 year old can very well know about love, actually even better than some 20 or 30 years old.tupid point you just made. You're the adult you control the situation. 14 year old girl have no clue what love is. I'm not saying aren't any teens girls fucking grown men because I knew some growing up. It was still his fault guy because he know. Fall in love with 9th grader that shit doesn't even sound right. @IAmOdie wrote it best in #32 that it depends on the person how they look and behave Besides, there are still regulations even with a lower AoC. For example, in relationships with a larger age gap, the courts here can decide if the parents rise the case whether or not the 14 or 15 year old person is old enough to consent with a partner over 18. If the parents accept, then it's all good. Same if the court decides that the person is capable enough to consent, an example is here. With 16 plus, the teens can usually fully decide even against their parents' decisions without having to go to court. But below 18, they cannot sell their body Order-Sol said: So by that logic, no one is allowed to have any romantic relationship at all, because there is still a chance that there would be SA and similarIn Latin America young girls are sexual molested and harassed by older men nearly on a daily. Everyone who is poor or just poorly dressed should not be allowed to enter any luxury shop to take a look at things because they might be a thief The relationship between Elvis Presley and Priscilla or the one between the former Queen and Prince Philip shouldn't have happened. The former Queen was even 13 when they first met. What's important here is that it's up to the people to decide on when they are ready for it If it happens more often in Latin America, then it should be questioned whether or not there are cultural reasons for it. Like the whole Hispanic culture being too much into seducing even from younger ages like with Latin dances I rarely hear cases in the German-speaking area from people who have an ethnic German or ethnic German-speaking background. If there are cases rising like in Vienna, it's oddly enough mostly from countries that have a more restrictive view on the role of the woman So there is no problem with the laws or the culture here in Central Europe (Mitteleuropa), but rather with the ones of the people(s) where things like that seem way more prevalent. "40. Women are called ladies by men right after they are fourteen. And so when they see that they have nothing else except to go to bed with men, they begin to make themselves up and place all their hopes in that. It is therefore worthwhile to pay attention so that they are aware that they are honored for nothing other than appearing modest and self-respecting." Handbook of Epictetus |
NoboruApr 2, 2024 7:14 AM
| @Noboru Better don't waste your time, the concept of legal adulthood is already unquestionable for most people, whereas biological adulthood and emotional adulthood are mostly irrelevant. Any varying opinion will be canceled with the pedo card instantly, rightfully or not. |
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@Noboru Better don't waste your time, the concept of legal adulthood is already unquestionable for most people, whereas biological adulthood and emotional adulthood are mostly irrelevant. Any varying opinion will be canceled with the pedo card instantly, rightfully or not.
| @Zarutaku It's fine, I don't expect anything from anyone who cannot even use the word correctly based on the definition by the DSM or ICD: https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/F01-F99/F60-F69/F65-/F65.4#:~:text=Billable%2FSpecific%20Code-,F65.,a%20diagnosis%20for%20reimbursement%20purposes. 42 from the "Handbook of Moral" attributed to the teachings of Epictetus has the perfect answer to it: When someone acts badly toward you or speaks badly of you, remember that he does or says it in the belief that it is appropriate for him to do so. Accordingly he cannot follow what appears to you but only what appears to him, so that if things appear badly to him, he is harmed in as much as he has been deceived. For if someone thinks that a true conjunctive proposition is false, the conjunction is not harmed but rather the one who is deceived. Starting from these considerations you will be gentle with the person who abuses you. For you must say on each occasion, "That’s how it seemed to him." |
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There isn't a single, universal average age of consent worldwide. The age of consent varies significantly by country and can range anywhere from 12 to 21 years old, with most countries falling between 14 and 16.
Here's some additional information to consider:
* Some countries have exceptions within their laws. These exceptions might allow people close in age to have consensual sex even if one or both are below the legal age limit.
* The concept of consent can also be culturally influenced.
* Legal ages are important for legal purposes, but don't necessarily reflect maturity levels, which can vary greatly.
If you're interested in learning more about the specific age of consent in a particular country, a good resource is Wikipedia Age of Consent by Country: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_by_country.
There isn't a single, universal average age of consent worldwide. The age of consent varies significantly by country and can range anywhere from 12 to 21 years old, with most countries falling between 14 and 16.
Here's some additional information to consider:
* Some countries have exceptions within their laws. These exceptions might allow people close in age to have consensual sex even if one or both are below the legal age limit.
* The concept of consent can also be culturally influenced.
* Legal ages are important for legal purposes, but don't necessarily reflect maturity levels, which can vary greatly.
If you're interested in learning more about the specific age of consent in a particular country, a good resource is Wikipedia Age of Consent by Country: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_by_country.
It seems that age of consent is often confused with age of majority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority |
PeripheralVision said: Yes that's what I said, legal adulthood and age of majority is the same thing, often confused with age of consent.If there is any misunderstanding, it is confusing the concept of legal adulthood with age of consent or using the terms interchangeably Aside from that I have no clear-cut opinion what should be allowed at what age, the entire subject is too complicated and I can't act like an expert. |
| @PeripheralVision Age of Majority and Voting age are two separate things even though it is often same age. There is a number that are under 18 though and some countries have exceptions such as if someone works they can vote younger or if they are married or it is optional while for rest it is required. That's setting aside voting age is not relevant to anything but how it is indirectly tied to taxes which are themselves tied to labour laws where minors serve corporations with their cheap labour they offer potentially incentivizing keeping age of majority and voting age where it is which is part of why 18 is the common norm. Though it also somewhat ties into when compulsory education ends because even though school doesn't really teach politics how it really works they like to pretend it does and also it sometimes serves as a form of voter suppression in order to manipulate who can win elections. I guarantee if they thought they could get away with it voting age would be old retirement age just like how the US used to be only rich landowners could vote. Not like once someone hits 18 suddenly they have a wealth of knowledge of politics they didnt the time before. Most people regardless of age dont know much particularly in countries voting isnt mandatory. |
traedApr 2, 2024 10:36 AM
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Reply to WaffleMaster89
Why are so many people defending children's access to porn and sexual relationships with adults?
| @WaffleMaster89 I'm wondering as well. It's disturbing and only makes those people you mentioned look like creeps and degenerates. Not that such behavior is something new, unseen before, among some groups of anime fans. The stereotype of "degenerate weebs" wasn't born without any reason. It's harmful in general, because not all anime fans are like that, but that's how stereotypes work like, sadly. |
Reply to IAmOdie
@WaffleMaster89 Because porn causes harms even on adults. One negative effect of porn is giving the false idea of how sexual intercourse should be like. The effect will be felt when you have a relationship, be it pre or post marriage especially the latter, where you or your significant other expect the natural obligation to be just like how it is in porn, and will highly likely be disappointed when it isn't that way. Of course, there is other negative effects like the tendency of self-satisfying or the addiction to porn itself.
As for sexual relationship, I can only comment and open up a discussion when it comes to marriage, as I've stated in my previous post in this thread. As for pre-marriage relationship, I do not actually condone it, whether older man with little girl or older woman with little boy, because pre-marriage relationship is, more often than not, all about getting laid with one another than it is about spending times together romantically.
Marriage, however, means both men and women are ready to spend their lives together 24/7 until death do them apart (or until death reunite them in heaven), ready to romantically and passionately love no one but each other, ready to make home of a house they live in by doing house chores together, ready to work his bones in order to put food on the table for the male, ready to work himself hard to get his child or children into a proper education also for the male, ready to cook her best possible food for her family for the female, ready to be the first to educate her child or children also for the female, and finally ready to possibly sacrifice their dreams to do what's best for the family. Stepping into marriage means both men and women are both physically and mentally mature and ready to do so, despite the age. Death and divorce are the only two things that separate them.
As for sexual relationship, I can only comment and open up a discussion when it comes to marriage, as I've stated in my previous post in this thread. As for pre-marriage relationship, I do not actually condone it, whether older man with little girl or older woman with little boy, because pre-marriage relationship is, more often than not, all about getting laid with one another than it is about spending times together romantically.
Marriage, however, means both men and women are ready to spend their lives together 24/7 until death do them apart (or until death reunite them in heaven), ready to romantically and passionately love no one but each other, ready to make home of a house they live in by doing house chores together, ready to work his bones in order to put food on the table for the male, ready to work himself hard to get his child or children into a proper education also for the male, ready to cook her best possible food for her family for the female, ready to be the first to educate her child or children also for the female, and finally ready to possibly sacrifice their dreams to do what's best for the family. Stepping into marriage means both men and women are both physically and mentally mature and ready to do so, despite the age. Death and divorce are the only two things that separate them.
ready to cook her best possible food for her family Just wanted to quote this for the lulz. |
| Some of you guys need to realize that calling a child "mature for their age" is actually something pedophiles say when they are grooming children. So the argument of "emotional or mental maturity" is out the fucking window. It doesn't exist. It's not up for debate. And if the kid thinks they are mature for their age -they almost definitely aren't. If you've been a kid or a teenager, you should realize that you were a fucking idiot around that age. Child predation is an act of aggression that almost always leads to mental problems later on in the child's life. The abuser creates a toxic relationship, and attempts to separate the child from the family, because they know that their parents would take action if discovered. Age of consent laws only do so much when your rights to self defense are infringed upon so greatly -people put all of their faith in the government to protect their children or communities, yet, they have allowed such acts to continue to happen, on multiple occasions, and have indeed partaken in it themselves. The correct course of action is not to give the benefit of the doubt, say "oh but they were mature for their age" and try to figure out where the line should be drawn. It's to ensure that families have the right to defend themselves from aggression. No one knows if the child is mature more than the parent. So we need to foster communities that understand this. And to put a bullet through the head of the aggressors. |
DreamWindowApr 3, 2024 6:54 AM
This ground is soiled by those before me and their lies. I dare not look up for on me I feel their eyes |
PeripheralVision said: What position?I do not understand your position. PeripheralVision said: Of course it is important to listen to the "experts" and having honest discussions here, but hiding behind some supposed complexity of an issue does not mean the issue cannot be black and white. This is kind of intellectual laziness, if I am being honest. "It is wrong/troubling for a significantly older person to have sexual intercourse with a 14 year old" should not be a hot take. This is an extreme example. They are barely out of junior high. What moral complexity is there? This isn't my example and I wasn't referring to it in my replies, I was saying that adulthood is a complicated subject in all respects (biological, psychological and by law) and as a layman I know little about it. There is a paragraph from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult that kind of sums up what I think: Definitions of adulthood are often inconsistent and contradictory; a person may be biologically an adult, and have adult behavior, but still be treated as a child if they are under the legal age of majority. Conversely, one may legally be an adult but possess none of the maturity and responsibility that may define an adult character. |
DreamWindow said: Too many buzzwords. 14 years old are no prepubescent children. We are not talking about ages where even more people would raise eyebrows (11-13, hebephilia) or would find outright shocking (usually 10 or younger, the actual clinical definition), but about ages (14+) where in cultures around the world, the girls have been considered (young) women already.Some of you guys need to realize that calling a child "mature for their age" is actually something pedophiles say when they are grooming children. So the argument of "emotional or mental maturity" is out the fucking window. It doesn't exist. It's not up for debate. And if the kid thinks they are mature for their age -they almost definitely aren't. If you've been a kid or a teenager, you should realize that you were a fucking idiot around that age. Child predation is an act of aggression that almost always leads to mental problems later on in the child's life. The abuser creates a toxic relationship, and attempts to separate the child from the family, because they know that their parents would take action if discovered. When it comes to physical and psychological development, girls have an edge over boys. After 14, girls will barely grow any further. Compared to that, guys can have their last growth spurt in their late teens even after the age of 18. With "mature for their age", it can be also just meant that they act polite/nice around the older person. Under "grooming" can pretty much every love relationship fall that escalates sexually over the course of time. I wonder if you would call how Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip came together as "grooming", since she was just 13 when she fell in love Not all parents would take actions that's just an emotional appeal here over what you perceive as moral. And last but not least, it depends on the people whether a relationship is toxic and/or abusive because it can very well happen even with two full-fledged adults in their 30s or older You guys should worry more about cases where primary schoolers or even kindergarteners learn about sexual orientation, gender identity and self-pleasure in the West, because that's the actual vile thing. Or any form of unwanted contact because the culture is either too sexualized or focused on seducing (Japan, Hispanic especially when the girls start dancing at very young ages) or too restrictive (Islamic/Arabic) and then the guys get overly horny because they haven't been raised properly and they haven't been used to see girls bodies from younger ages |
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