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| what a shit finale for a shit third act if this really was a major game changer in profits and in bringing females to the franchise, its really sad watch the next mainline Gundam series be a BL and be a massive hit again with females, because most eat this bland yuri/yaoi shit like it was the greatest thing ever. the show was never anything impressive, but the finale is just... boring, id prefer something to be bad (a la My Sister, My Writer) so i can mock it, but not even that i can do here well, im gonna forget this show existed in 1 week like most of the other "fans" so not too conflicted about it |
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| It could have been a great spin-off given the show's end content and focus, but trying to make it into a fully-fledged TV Gundam anime just buried it under unrealistic ambition and excessive expectations. Because I just feel like a victim of false hopes and wasted time when the show literally tossed all of its serious (and claimed main themes) in favor of Polichenel's yuri secret, literally imbuing the ending with shonen-ish power of friendship and the god out of the machine. Not surprised it really impresses new fans and zoomers as an attraction, but it's just a big budget version of those random mechas that Sunrise did in between full Gundam shows in the past. SenSnowy said: Insane episode. I can’t Imagine how the writers felt. The music. Amaaazing. Zccdcccc said: That was certainly Gundam The Witch From Mercury. The second season was pretty much doomed from the start, Okouchi never managed to get a decent pacing to use his ideas, and during this episode the script straight-up stops making any sense until the epilogue. That's all, folks ! Haha, I'm not even surprised to see such reviews here. Again, I still think it was the high expectations and the over-absorption that killed the show, and then the writing. |
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DarkDooM2 said: It still shocks me that this was looking more like actually the union of two BFFs who got married to be "best friends forever" thant full-blow romance. I mean, they created so much ambiguity or intrigue (?) about whether they were going to be together or not that it made their romance look like a romantic friendship combined with an engagement as a plot tool. If it wasn't for the rings and the obsessive engagement theme, I really would have thought this whole time that it was just MariMite in mecha. This is probably the first show whose attempt to copy Utena made him look more straight than gay, albeit due to script issues.Average ending to an average series. In the end it never really felt like a Gundam show for some reason. The yuri was kinda useless. Remove it and nothing would change. |
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DarkDooM2 said: Hate to say it but yeah, you're right. Technically it was a proefficient Sunrise production but it was never really stellar and the ending lacked the kick in the privates intensity of other Gundam series. The yuri seemed to have been introduced to attract some other audiences but at the end of the day they never really dare to show it in all it's glory. A shame for the people who where just hanging around a mecha show in order to see the content they Iiked. Average ending to an average series. In the end it never really felt like a Gundam show for some reason. The yuri was kinda useless. Remove it and nothing would change. |
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Farabeuf said: I still don't understand why they went down such a subtle path with yuri here. The show seemed to be as embarrassed as possible about it, while the straight characters were always blunt about it and actually showed more attraction to Suletta and Miorine than they did to each other. It would make sense in a typical "super duper female friendship show" but we were teased from the start about the engagement theme. Why do we need this open secret? Just for cheap bait of shippers?DarkDooM2 said: Hate to say it but yeah, you're right. Technically it was a proefficient Sunrise production but it was never really stellar and the ending lacked the kick in the privates intensity of other Gundam series. The yuri seemed to have been introduced to attract some other audiences but at the end of the day they never really dare to show it in all it's glory. A shame for the people who where just hanging around a mecha show in order to see the content they Iiked. Average ending to an average series. In the end it never really felt like a Gundam show for some reason. The yuri was kinda useless. Remove it and nothing would change. |
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| "I see dead people." "When you see dead people?" "I see dead people when the Data Storm hits." The Gundam and Quiet Zero just peace out, like a meme. Whatever Miorine and Suletta marrying, congrats but, was a option transferring Eri to any electronic device? Like make a cyborg body and transfer the Eri to it. |
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IluVG-Dam said: I'm aware of this, I've seen people literally hate Guel and attack him and Lauda just because even being a yuri the show wasn't going to be all-female bishoujo-bait. I'm concerned about something else. Namely, that the show, throughout the broadcast, created intrigue from the void, thereby needlessly violating the writing of Miorine and Suletta's relationship. For a show with such a gay premise, it was painfully subtle in everything that wasn't straight. Even in the finale, Carl!RobertBobert said: I still don't understand why they went down such a subtle path with yuri here. The show seemed to be as embarrassed as possible about it, while the straight characters were always blunt about it and actually showed more attraction to Suletta and Miorine than they did to each other. It would make sense in a typical "super duper female friendship show" but we were teased from the start about the engagement theme. Why do we need this open secret? Just for cheap bait of shippers? RobertBobert said: I still don't understand why they went down such a subtle path with yuri here. The show seemed to be as embarrassed as possible about it, while the straight characters were always blunt about it and actually showed more attraction to Suletta and Miorine than they did to each other. It would make sense in a typical "super duper female friendship show" but we were teased from the start about the engagement theme. Why do we need this open secret? Just for cheap bait of shippers? It was always cheap bait for shippers Unfortunately typicaly yuri shippers are bolth toxic and broke (in the west) so they did not buy the kits. I swear, i think they slashed the ep count bc kit sales for the series in particular crashed hard. Also this airs in china, what do you expect? |
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MeowMixMax said: Ironic considering that yuri shippers from China are the most aggressive part of the fanbase in this regard. But on the other hand, maybe that's why the show was superficially pointlessly thin with it?Welp they are married, guess they can't really show the wedding though because this show streams in China. |
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MSH420 said: I'd have a lot less trouble with this if their relationship was portrayed as a full-fledged romance, rather than something nonsensically ambiguous in the vein of Hollywood movies from the Hayes Code era. Even the episode with them as a married couple looked like it was a reunion of two friends. This is already some kind of Hibike Euphonium level, if there were same-sex marriages.RobertBobert said: I'm aware of this, I've seen people literally hate Guel and attack him and Lauda just because even being a yuri the show wasn't going to be all-female bishoujo-bait. I'm concerned about something else. Namely, that the show, throughout the broadcast, created intrigue from the void, thereby needlessly violating the writing of Miorine and Suletta's relationship. For a show with such a gay premise, it was painfully subtle in everything that wasn't straight. Even in the finale, Carl! Honestly the gay part of the show was super forced with the marriage plotline \_(0_0)_/ At no point did they even try to establish anything more than a friendship and they basically cut off even that at the end of S1 and only forced it back into effect near the end of S2. While Guel was the only interesting character in the show. People are so weird with the gay for the sake of being gay thing here, atleast have some substance to it, but that's too much to ask for this show I suppose. Edit: him and Suletta actually made more sense than Mio/Suletta IluVG-Dam said: I'm still sure it could work as a nice spin-off or prequel to another show. G-Witch has everything for this. But as a standalone show, it's frustratingly overflowing with wasted stuff and an overdose of quotes from other anime. They did market the anime as a new age gundam in the 20s, building it mostly on copypasta of a 90s girl show.RobertBobert said: I'm aware of this, I've seen people literally hate Guel and attack him and Lauda just because even being a yuri the show wasn't going to be all-female bishoujo-bait. I'm concerned about something else. Namely, that the show, throughout the broadcast, created intrigue from the void, thereby needlessly violating the writing of Miorine and Suletta's relationship. For a show with such a gay premise, it was painfully subtle in everything that wasn't straight. Even in the finale, Carl! For me g witch is on the level of dtf, and g reco. Yes i said it. Also the paralels of g reco and g witch are surpriseing Both have under 50 eps Both have no msv kits as standard release (g witch has lifrith jiu, it is p bandai, g reco has none) Both have happy ending Both make no semse how and wtf is going on between the half way point to the end Main mc is "special" Both have the gundams destroyed in some fasion by the end. Both series kits were advanced at the time, but were held back by shit story. And poor sales i am not buying any kits from the series until 2024. |
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| GINO: Gundam in name only. This show is truly foul. The second coming of Valvrave. Sasuga Ookouchi. Never stop making huge stinkers. |
| god that was great, like, so good ngl |
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Neneaux said: Does this have anything to do with Valvrave? Except that Suletta really started to look like a big shonen-ish OP towards the end.GINO: Gundam in name only. This show is truly foul. The second coming of Valvrave. Sasuga Ookouchi. Never stop making huge stinkers. IluVG-Dam said: In fact, until yesterday, I did not think that the departure from the formula or yuri would be deeply secondary in the question of what this show can be scolded for. This is just a show not worthy of its ambitions and expectations in the first place.RobertBobert said: I'd have a lot less trouble with this if their relationship was portrayed as a full-fledged romance, rather than something nonsensically ambiguous in the vein of Hollywood movies from the Hayes Code era. Even the episode with them as a married couple looked like it was a reunion of two friends. This is already some kind of Hibike Euphonium level, if there were same-sex marriages. I'm still sure it could work as a nice spin-off or prequel to another show. G-Witch has everything for this. But as a standalone show, it's frustratingly overflowing with wasted stuff and an overdose of quotes from other anime. They did market the anime as a new age gundam in the 20s, building it mostly on copypasta of a 90s girl show. But i think it is unlikely Again my point bc of the p bandai lifrith jiu, why else it is p bandai? The only reson i can think of is low sales. |
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RobertBobert said: Yes. It's the same writer. Neneaux said: Does this have anything to do with Valvrave? Except that Suletta really started to look like a big shonen-ish OP towards the end.GINO: Gundam in name only. This show is truly foul. The second coming of Valvrave. Sasuga Ookouchi. Never stop making huge stinkers. |
RobertBobert said: Neneaux said: Does this have anything to do with Valvrave? Except that Suletta really started to look like a big shonen-ish OP towards the end.GINO: Gundam in name only. This show is truly foul. The second coming of Valvrave. Sasuga Ookouchi. Never stop making huge stinkers. IluVG-Dam said: In fact, until yesterday, I did not think that the departure from the formula or yuri would be deeply secondary in the question of what this show can be scolded for. This is just a show not worthy of its ambitions and expectations in the first place.But i think it is unlikely Again my point bc of the p bandai lifrith jiu, why else it is p bandai? The only reson i can think of is low sales. Like first season they tried to push yuri hard without the TV networks pulling it off, and hide it by making it look kid friendly. The second season it is like they told they had one cour to wrap up everything. So non stop action, massive info dumps, so many deaths. Then put a fast legend of korra subtle yuri ending to satisfy the toxic shippers but will not get the TV networks to cancel this. We never had a gundam au end this fast. Sunrise has been indifferent to aus for the 2010s ever since they returned to universal century. My guess is they used this as a way to get girls into a boys franchise with yuri cuz women are more sexually fluid than men. Then right when they finished airing they advertise seed movie since sunrise has been promoting seed heavily for the past 2 decades. Also seed is more popular with females with attractive boys and popular straight ships. But imagine seed if kira and arthrun were gay and lacus and Cavalli were lesbians. It would take too much screen time and ruin the narrative. Seed got big for fates intertwining. They would lose massive fans fast for seed if they forced gay ships. The yuri in gwitch did overshadow the plot. They should have focused on the plot from the beginning. But I am glad the toxic shippers are probably gone now the show is almost definitely finished. And cosmic era has returned after almost 20 years. RobertBobert said: Neneaux said: Does this have anything to do with Valvrave? Except that Suletta really started to look like a big shonen-ish OP towards the end.GINO: Gundam in name only. This show is truly foul. The second coming of Valvrave. Sasuga Ookouchi. Never stop making huge stinkers. IluVG-Dam said: In fact, until yesterday, I did not think that the departure from the formula or yuri would be deeply secondary in the question of what this show can be scolded for. This is just a show not worthy of its ambitions and expectations in the first place.But i think it is unlikely Again my point bc of the p bandai lifrith jiu, why else it is p bandai? The only reson i can think of is low sales. |
| At last we've reached the end of the series and my first Gundam completion. This was quite heartfelt and the political issues surrounding everything made it all the more analyzable and rewatchable. Every character has their motivation, their depth and reasoning behind their acts and while some are blatantly in the wrong, you can see were they're coming from. I'm not too keen on politics nor the Gundam-verse as a whole to say that I understood everything that was going on but at the very least I've got enough to get me invested in the franchise and give another series a chance. For a starter this is an excellet shot as the clean 2D mech animation especially during the robot fights, the futuristic sound design, the orchestral soundtrack and overall package makes it all the better. I'll rewatch this sometime in the future most probably. |
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| This season was a hot mess from start to finish but can't say I hated this episode. I thought the ending was very cute, the scene with Prospera and Eri made me forget about the Quiet Zero nonsense. Overall I'm extremely disappointed at this series but at least attracted more fans to the Gundam franchise. |
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| I will miss all of them, I liked the series, a rare happy end for the franchise. Eri is now a keychain (hilarious XD) our adorable tanuki and Miorine are married, Nika is now free and Chuchu is still a grumpy cat.  |
Neneaux said: Lol, I literally made it clear that I know that they have a common author. I don't understand why you think it's similar in general.RobertBobert said: Yes. It's the same writer. Does this have anything to do with Valvrave? Except that Suletta really started to look like a big shonen-ish OP towards the end. @icefirestone23 I don't know about SEED, but judging by the latest announcements of new Gundam works (and even the G-Witch spin-off manga, they are really jumping back into handsome boys and seem to deliberately want to hide the Witch behind new content in a more traditional Gundam style. Question then. , why was it necessary to create G-Witch in the first place, they just wanted to make something one-off that would give the desired, at least temporary hype to the brand? |
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Galletita said: I'm afraid that many "new fans" will leave when they realize that this is not a bishoujo yuri bait brand in general. I've seen a lot of people outright say they were only watching it because of yuri.This season was a hot mess from start to finish but can't say I hated this episode. I thought the ending was very cute, the scene with Prospera and Eri made me forget about the Quiet Zero nonsense. Overall I'm extremely disappointed at this series but at least attracted more fans to the Gundam franchise. |
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| A Gundam series with a happy ending? Ok, guess I've seen it all. |
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| im very happy for the ending !!! for me this is a happy ending what i expectations !! |
| Nika haricut was nice. The "eating" part at the end was an innuendo. Series as a whole was only carried by the production quality. |
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IluVG-Dam said: Are you a supporter of the suspicion that they are going to further put Gundam on the Love Live rails? Yes, there is a huge gulf between IBO's criticism of same-sex marriage and G-Witch, but from what I've seen, many Japanese people were glad that it moved away from Utena and idolized Guel.RobertBobert said: i think they were testing the Yuri market Lol, I literally made it clear that I know that they have a common author. I don't understand why you think it's similar in general. @icefirestone23 I don't know about SEED, but judging by the latest announcements of new Gundam works (and even the G-Witch spin-off manga, they are really jumping back into handsome boys and seem to deliberately want to hide the Witch behind new content in a more traditional Gundam style. Question then. , why was it necessary to create G-Witch in the first place, they just wanted to make something one-off that would give the desired, at least temporary hype to the brand? once it became apparent the type of people is into yuri, they hard course correct IE they are broke |
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MSH420 said: Well, last year I was shocked when I saw life and the amount of discussion so much dropped when people stopped arguing about ships here.. But anyway, I don't understand why people consider Gundam boomer a franchise. As the history of G-Witch has shown, even among the rabid fans of the brand there are many people with a rather millennial mentality.RobertBobert said: I'm afraid that many "new fans" will leave when they realize that this is not a bishoujo yuri bait brand in general. I've seen a lot of people outright say they were only watching it because of yuri. Judging by many of the comments here, it really does seem people were only interested in the yuri, less than halfbaked as it was, since they're conveniently ignoring the many, MANY problems with this anime. I personally think it gave a nice publicity boost to the franchise with how popular it has been. Gundam in my experience with people, had garnered a reputation for being a boomer show and that pushed many potential fans away. In appealing to a wider audience they did manage to break away from that, or so I hope. But I do hope they never do another series as bad as this one, |
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