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nestharus said: There comes a point when you get tired of watching the same thing over and over again. Old favorites come back and some new servants and masters are introduced. Show primarily carried by fight sequences. I was bored out of my mind watching it. I'd seen it all already 8 times over. How many more times are we going to rehash the holy grail war? :|. Until I see Astolfo again, get to see a remaster of Stay Night and see Lostbelt get an anime. Even then... if it still fun then I say keep the content train rolling :) |
Sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl. Gilgamesh is also chad.   |
Rocknblock said: i see. Does he have any link to Waver? I mean they are both members of the clocktower organisation. The most significant link the pair have is Rin. Zelretch was the progenitor of jewel magecraft, which the Tohsaka clan uses, and Waver takes Rin under his wing as an apprentice after the events of stay night. Although it is not clear how much they personally associate (and in which timelines), one confirmed instance of the two colluding is at the start of Prisma Illya. So, broadly, yes, the pair are linked. Ok i didn't know waver took rin under his wing |
| That was an entertaining hour, that passed by like a regular episode. All the signature megalomania on full display. Quite a blast ;-) |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
| I see they turned Tsubaki into a mystery box, hopefully they cover her and assassins' backstories in the series. They are kinda important |
| I’m pretty sure the last Fate anime I watched was the Babylonia one back when it aired so it’s been a hot minute for me with the Fate series but it’s good to be back lol, I think I remember enough to understand what went down in this episode, but there was a lot of crazy new shit too. This was really cool tho, art and animation looked awesome and all this story setup already has me very intrigued, the characters all seem very wacky this time around, poor Enkidu is the servant of a dog and Gilgamesh is just being Gilgamesh as always lol, it seems like it’s gonna be a good time. I enjoyed the little references here and there too, we got some nods to Lord El-Melloi and a Gray cameo, as well as a callback to Alexander from Fate/Zero. And the setting being in a U.S. city in what I think is Nevada based on that police chief’s hat is very cool as well, it’s about time good ol USA got its time in this series lol. Definitely looking forward to the full anime whenever it comes out, I just hope I don’t forget everything in this prologue before then lol. |
TheColonel76Jul 3, 2023 7:26 PM
| Fate is so back on the menu with lines like these Fate/America  |
| I know this and that about the Fate universe, but I'm far from being a specialist, so some fragments of this special were a bit cryptic; I still did like it a lot. I didn't expect the protagonist to be revealed at the very end, but I don't mind it, especially since I like this design much more. The animation was excellent (and I hope it won't be much worse in the whole series), and I can't say no to Hiroyuki Sawano. <3 Hearing a couple of seiyuus was pretty entertaining, too (especially since lately I've been rewatching Jujutsu Kaisen - evil Itadori is a nice change of pace, haha). Two questions for Fate specialists, if any kind soul would want to answer: 1. What would be the best Fate series/movie/other kind of animation to watch (or a manga to read) in terms of the quality of the plot, characters, and maybe also the visual side - as well as in terms of gaining better understanding of the whole Holy Grail War process? I know I can read it about it on the wiki, but that's not very fun. 2. Games aside, are there other bits of Fate fiction that are considered of good quality where the main Master is female rather than male? |
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| This was really good. If only the show had a date...but if the animation and direction is this strong, they probably shouldn't rush it. |
Bum Bum Dum Dum |
| Holy moly this is really epic, let's start this fake holy grail war |
Airsaber said: iin terms of gaining better understanding of the whole Holy Grail War process? Fate/Zero deals with that better than the rest. For example Fate/stay night's (in its three routs) main trick is having secret participants and searching of ways how the rules can be twisted. |
| just like any other fate serie, it took its time explaining the holy grail war and introducing its characters in a pretty fascinating way. Good and evil characters in no random order, it is going to be epic. Well, the last few minutes of the serie were of course, the most entertaining part, between our beloving king Gilgamesh and Enkidu. I had to grasp my heart in order to sit through that spectacle. This raw art style and fluid animation from Clover Works is one of the best I've seen since Babylion which I loved so much. The soundtrack throughout the whole serie was amazing. The little elements of comedy between Flat and Velvet were hilarious, the american way of Mages and so on. Great prologue. |
   “You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!” ' |
BIIIGPP6969 said: nope, they only revealed tht a series was in the works. theres nothing else confirmed other than A-1 Pictures is animating it. Seems so odd to bring this out without a release date for the show. |
Airsaber said: What would be the best Fate series/movie/other kind of animation to watch (or a manga to read) in terms of the quality of the plot, characters, and maybe also the visual side - as well as in terms of gaining better understanding of the whole Holy Grail War process? I know I can read it about it on the wiki, but that's not very fun. Stay Night and Zero explains the holy grail war pretty well if you don't want to play the visual novel. But you'll have to check the Wiki anyway. Airsaber said: are there other bits of Fate fiction that are considered of good quality where the main Master is female rather than male? Threre aren't many, Fate/Kaleid series can be considered really good if you're ok with watching Yuri lolis kissing each other. Fate/school Life is a fine comedy/parody series, but there's only one anime episode and the manga isn't translated. Fate/Extra game where you can choose a female protagonist. (still waiting for the remake) Fate/Requiem light novel which only has one volume translated. (it's not even approved on MAL yet) and Threre's Fate:Lost Einherjar light novel which recently came out and the first volume is still being reanslated. |
NECOdesJul 5, 2023 7:55 AM
Airsaber said: I know this and that about the Fate universe, but I'm far from being a specialist, so some fragments of this special were a bit cryptic; I still did like it a lot. I didn't expect the protagonist to be revealed at the very end, but I don't mind it, especially since I like this design much more. The animation was excellent (and I hope it won't be much worse in the whole series), and I can't say no to Hiroyuki Sawano. <3 Hearing a couple of seiyuus was pretty entertaining, too (especially since lately I've been rewatching Jujutsu Kaisen - evil Itadori is a nice change of pace, haha). Two questions for Fate specialists, if any kind soul would want to answer: 1. What would be the best Fate series/movie/other kind of animation to watch (or a manga to read) in terms of the quality of the plot, characters, and maybe also the visual side - as well as in terms of gaining better understanding of the whole Holy Grail War process? I know I can read it about it on the wiki, but that's not very fun. 2. Games aside, are there other bits of Fate fiction that are considered of good quality where the main Master is female rather than male? Well... for number 1 Fate Unlimited Blade Works or Fate Zero will do a good job at explaining the basis of a Holy Grail War. Another one might be Apocrypha, it a grail war with more than the standard seven servant summons which Strange Fake is similar too (though the numbers are slightly different due to certain circumstance's). For number 2, there is currently no other anime that focuses on a female master, Ayaka is the first in the non-parody, generally the servant is the female. I'll give a complete list in the spoiler below. There is also a magical girl spin off series called Prisma Iylla (not seen much of it), which focuses around Iylla as a master/magical girl. It not got the same energy as the standard holy grail fates. I hope some of that helps. The main takeaway is Strange Fate is really the first with a main female master and male servant duo. So that a neat shake up, but the list above will give you a rough idea that whilst most the series don't have a female lead they do have usually a healthy balance of lead female characters. |
Sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl. Gilgamesh is also chad. |
Blue_Reaper7 said: I personally found no issue. Maybe you are not as strict about those thins or something. Blue_Reaper7 said: The difference wasn't big enough to the point of feeling jarring. I guess for a person who doesn't care that much... |
alshu said: Fate/Zero deals with that better than the rest. For example Fate/stay night's (in its three routs) main trick is having secret participants and searching of ways how the rules can be twisted. NECOdes said: Stay Night and Zero explains the holy grail war pretty well if you don't want to play the visual novel. But you'll have to check the Wiki anyway. Threre aren't many, Fate/Kaleid series can be considered really good if you're ok with watching Yuri lolis kissing each other. Fate/school Life is a fine comedy/parody series, but there's only one anime episode and the manga isn't translated. Fate/Extra game where you can choose a female protagonist. (still waiting for the remake) Fate/Requiem light novel which only has one volume translated. (it's not even approved on MAL yet) and Threre's Fate:Lost Einherjar light novel which recently came out and the first volume is still being reanslated. AnimePedestrian said: Well... for number 1 Fate Unlimited Blade Works or Fate Zero will do a good job at explaining the basis of a Holy Grail War. Another one might be Apocrypha, it a grail war with more than the standard seven servant summons which Strange Fake is similar too (though the numbers are slightly different due to certain circumstance's). For number 2, there is currently no other anime that focuses on a female master, Ayaka is the first in the non-parody, generally the servant is the female. I'll give a complete list in the spoiler below. There is also a magical girl spin off series called Prisma Iylla (not seen much of it), which focuses around Iylla as a master/magical girl. It not got the same energy as the standard holy grail fates. I hope some of that helps. The main takeaway is Strange Fate is really the first with a main female master and male servant duo. So that a neat shake up, but the list above will give you a rough idea that whilst most the series don't have a female lead they do have usually a healthy balance of lead female characters. Thank you very much, everyone; I appreciate your replies a lot!! I think I'll start with Zero and Unlimited Blade Works to get a better understanding - and then I'll check out some of the other examples. (Also, the current message editor on MAL is a bit crappy, especially when it comes to quoting...) |
AirsaberJul 5, 2023 11:43 AM
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Airsaber said: alshu said: Fate/Zero deals with that better than the rest. For example Fate/stay night's (in its three routs) main trick is having secret participants and searching of ways how the rules can be twisted. NECOdes said: Stay Night and Zero explains the holy grail war pretty well if you don't want to play the visual novel. But you'll have to check the Wiki anyway. Threre aren't many, Fate/Kaleid series can be considered really good if you're ok with watching Yuri lolis kissing each other. Fate/school Life is a fine comedy/parody series, but there's only one anime episode and the manga isn't translated. Fate/Extra game where you can choose a female protagonist. (still waiting for the remake) Fate/Requiem light novel which only has one volume translated. (it's not even approved on MAL yet) and Threre's Fate:Lost Einherjar light novel which recently came out and the first volume is still being reanslated. AnimePedestrian said: Well... for number 1 Fate Unlimited Blade Works or Fate Zero will do a good job at explaining the basis of a Holy Grail War. Another one might be Apocrypha, it a grail war with more than the standard seven servant summons which Strange Fake is similar too (though the numbers are slightly different due to certain circumstance's). For number 2, there is currently no other anime that focuses on a female master, Ayaka is the first in the non-parody, generally the servant is the female. I'll give a complete list in the spoiler below. There is also a magical girl spin off series called Prisma Iylla (not seen much of it), which focuses around Iylla as a master/magical girl. It not got the same energy as the standard holy grail fates. I hope some of that helps. The main takeaway is Strange Fate is really the first with a main female master and male servant duo. So that a neat shake up, but the list above will give you a rough idea that whilst most the series don't have a female lead they do have usually a healthy balance of lead female characters. Thank you very much, everyone; I appreciate your replies a lot!! I think I'll start with Zero and Unlimited Blade Works to get a better understanding - and then I'll check out some of the other examples. (Also, the current message editor on MAL is a bit crappy, especially when it comes to quoting...) No problem, anything to help someone get into Fate as people can find it daunting with all the timelines. But you really can't go wrong with either of those two as they are solid beginning points. |
Sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl. Gilgamesh is also chad. |
| This was lit, I have heard much praise for Strange Fake. Can't wait to see more. |
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| Peak as far as Fate Adaptations go. Would've preferred some more action animation. The cycle animation for Tine/Gil was off and some characters melted on screen but nothing egregious. Just very well made in general with interesting artisitic flair unlike most other Fate anime. |
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Emblemz said: I am almost sure that the odd cut showing gil and tifé was an artistic choice because there are no other occurence of this strange walking cycle in the pilote.Peak as far as Fate Adaptations go. Would've preferred some more action animation. The cycle animation for Tine/Gil was off and some characters melted on screen but nothing egregious. Just very well made in general with interesting artisitic flair unlike most other Fate anime. |
greed2 said: Nachtwandler_21 said: This is purely out of speculation, but I think that is Manaka Sajyou; where she managed to "not get crazy" as she "grew up properly." Both the hair color and eye color matches Manaka Sajyou. Both Manaka and Ayaka are sisters, it wouldn't be odd if Manaka's older version would look like Ayaka since Prototype presented her to be a "child zombie." Could someone explain why Ayaka is blond in this universe? Has she dyed her hair after the events of Prototype? AnimePedestrian said: We can assume this is the same " Zelretch" that defeated Crimson Moon? Anyway, I am shocked that Zelretch said "there is not enough reason for me to interfere." Like to know what sort of BIG thing requires Zelretch to get out of his magical observation room. Even with something like Pandora's box opening or even the Alien God bleaching the entire Earth to create Lostbelts, guy would still say "things aren't bad enough for me to get involved." Seeing both Gilgamesh and Enkidu being summoned to cause chaos, guy is like "Let an attractive young girl handle the issue." The old guy is Zelretch Schweinorg he's the wizard marshal of the clocktower in the Fate timeline. I think he's just chilling in some kind of magical observation room. I think I read that in both the Tsukihime and Fate worlds Zelretch defeats the Crimson Moon just he gains immortality via different means in the Fate world and doesn't become a dead apostle. Also he makes reference to a sleeping 'spider' which apparently was referencing ORT which was pretty neat nod. |
Sometimes it takes a real man to be best girl. Gilgamesh is also chad. |
| This slapped hard. Give me more, A-1, please, ty ty |
  NYANPASU  5700XT |
| Wasn't sure what to expect since it's fate done by something other than ufotable, but I would say for the most part I was impressed. Some of the characters do seem a little generic, but this is the first I've seen of this story, so don't know what will happen later on. Just glad to see Gilgamesh is back in the thick of it! |
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| Very promising start. I assume this special is like a prologue to tv series coming around next year. Consider me excited. |
| I hate everyone equally |
| Why did Assassin kill her master? What was the goblet line in reference to? |
| Wolf better win or we riot |
WolfOphi said: O_T_T said: a few hours after the release of the episode Sanda (the author of Case File El melloi) explained on Twitter that the reason whyCase Files and Adventures do not take place in the same timeline as strange Fake, no. Within the history of strange Fake, the events of stay night haven't transpired as we are familiar with them, and we can confirm this because Interesting, so that instead reveals that the unseen 5HGW of the SF timeline did indeed feature Artoria. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| I like the Strange Fake version of Jack the Ripper. He's so shrouded in mystery that some studies conclude that Jack is, in fact, a Jill the Ripper instead. We'll never know the truth. I spot pretty girls in Orlando's Clan Calatin police force. His assistant is hot too! It would be a shame to see them die soon. Such a waste of quality meat! Francesca's personality and cuteness overload makes me want to violate her badly! I'll screw all of her holes! That fight scene between Enkidu and Gilgamesh brought tears to my eyes. Gate of Babylon vs. Age of Babylon + OST was so fricken cool! I'm looking forward to the series. It has an interesting cast of characters, with a chimera & a child as a master. Also, for once, in the Grail Wars, two servants are equal in strength. Gilgamesh annoyed me in the previous series since he can easily destroy the other servants. I'm curious how the war will end. |
 ABSOLUTE CINEMA My plans for watching it initially was only for the production, but with Narita on script, this should be some good food. Can't believe a Enokido/Sakazume full length TV series is a real thing, can't wait for it. |
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