| Are there any features of Japanese anime, media or show business that you find especially fresh and good compared to Western ones, or vice versa, you hate, believing that this makes Japanese business weaker or worse than Western ones? Some features of creative control, the attitude of showrunners to their projects or audience, work with appeal and target audience, etc. For example, I often hear people praise how the Japanese media and the anime industry in particular eschew political preaching or taboo criticism of the audience. |
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| I liked how the anime industry has always felt like a giant indie sector where people just produce whatever weird shit they want. I also like that Japan treats animation just as seriously as live-action, so it's not just kids stuff or sit-coms but uses the full spectrum of genres, themes, moods, styles etc. |
| well, the obvious thing that comes to mind is creativity not to say every single anime is a creative avant garde masterpiece but compared to the west, animes seem much more fresh with ideas and experimentations and I don't have any other criticism other than the fact that some studios do not treat their workers well, sometimes tragically, tho this is also a rather common criticism I suppose |
MizunoWaveRider said: Lol? Maybe during the height of the random OVAs era, but that absolutely certainly isn't the case now. I liked how the anime industry has always felt like a giant indie sector where people just produce whatever weird shit they want. |
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Ryiebe said: Bro you have Our Sound as your favorite anime.MizunoWaveRider said: Lol? Maybe during the height of the random OVAs era, but that absolutely certainly isn't the case now. I liked how the anime industry has always felt like a giant indie sector where people just produce whatever weird shit they want. |
| Western industry I like its ability to cut shows that are just not performing well or interesting. Anime feels like they will keep running regardless, you never see "x Monday night primetime show cancelled and will show remaining episodes on Saturdays at 1pm" like you do in the western tv scene. Japanese industry and western seem to have the same issue of making clones upon clones of shows...but Western is more willing to make full universes of shows (ONE CHIGAGO for example, Chicago Med, Chicago Fire and Chicago P.D), all the NCIS, CSI spinoffs running at the same time. Western industry I like that its better at casting different actors...Japanese industry seems to just use the same faces, and is slower at getting new ones. Japanese I like that they do movies for successful franchises, western industry is allergic to movies, I think only like a british show (downton abbey) is the latest to do one. |
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MizunoWaveRider said: Okay? Compare that *one* title to the swath of original, experimental titles we got in the 90s, 00s, or even early 10s. Orignal, experimental anime definitely still exist, but they aren't as common as they were before. Ryiebe said: Bro you have Our Sound as your favorite anime.Lol? Maybe during the height of the random OVAs era, but that absolutely certainly isn't the case now. |
RyiebeNov 21, 2022 10:00 AM
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Ryiebe said: It's more that we got a lot more trash anime nowadays, so relatively-speaking we got less experimental titles today. There is a reason why I said "I liked how the anime industry has always felt like" and not "I like how the anime industry feels like"MizunoWaveRider said: Okay? Compare that *one* title to the swath of original, experimental titles we got in the 80s, the 90s, or even the early 2000s. Orignal, experimental anime definitely still exist, but they aren't as common as they were before. Bro you have Our Sound as your favorite anime. |
| Anime adaptations are treated as commercials for the original work. So we don't get full stories, and I personally hate adaptations that try to copy og work. Manga creators get little of money if their work gets adaptation. Lack of variety what kind of works get adapted. It's either manga, LN or video game, and they all pretty much are targeted to same people. And even with those they cherry pick works that are safe bet. Also speaking of manga I dislike a lot how much power editors have over with these comics. Some mangaka may prefer getting direct comments from above, but I'd rather not. 27CansOfTuna said: To be fair many live action shows episode running time is already almost an hour. I'm not that into Japanese live action shows (or korean) but I think those also have pretty long running time, and don't get movies as frequently as anime works do.Japanese I like that they do movies for successful franchises, western industry is allergic to movies, I think only like a british show (downton abbey) is the latest to do one. |
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RobertBobert said: For example, I often hear people praise how the Japanese media and the anime industry in particular eschew political preaching or taboo criticism of the audience. This... noticed on my own since years and it's something that made me respect them even more than before. I can forgive so many abrupt/open endings of series i liked just for this detail alone. |
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_untitled said: RobertBobert said: For example, I often hear people praise how the Japanese media and the anime industry in particular eschew political preaching or taboo criticism of the audience. This... noticed on my own since years and it's something that made me respect them even more than before. I can forgive so many abrupt/open endings of series i liked just for this detail alone. I first noticed this when I saw that the anime director literally suffered to ask people to pay attention to the some new law on his twitter, literally apologizing several times for his writing about politics when they follow him as an anime director. |
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| Their pay comes in the heightened attention (and purchasing) that their original work gets, which is a direct effect of the anime. |
RyiebeJan 12, 2023 12:56 PM
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| Low animator wages and long working hours. |
| Love: Variety of contents, freedom of speech, little censorship and political correctness. Criticize: Overwork, underpayment, tight deadlines, strict acquisition and distribution of licenses. |
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Ryiebe said: I am comparing this to book authors, where in most cases studios buy adaptation rights for cheap price, but authors who have a big name can work around different contracts so they can earn quite a sum. Also make a deal where they can still have an input in the adaptation. Anime industry is pretty hush hush with these things, but what little we know original creators don't have much voice when making these deals.Their pay comes in the heightened attention (and purchasing) that the original work gets, which is a direct effect of the anime. And I did say my own grievances using adaptations as commercials for the og work. Not something I particularly like when it comes to anime. |
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| I don't like how political anime is. For example I am watching chainsaw man right now and it keeps telling me how straight the main character is. Don't get me wrong I have absolutely nothing against heteros, but you don't have to shove it down my throat. |
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| Anime IS way more political than a lot of watchers think but some of it might not be obvious since it makes reference to issues that aren't totally known over here. Pretty much EVERYTHING by Kenji Kamiyama is very political.. but the focus is on events inside Japan; and his portrayal of the USA is delightfully chauvinistic (not hating here- when Aramaki says "These GENTLEMENT are from the American EMPIRE" in a certain GITS episode with the disgusted sneer on his face, the statement is really obvious; so is the CIA agents behavior) Then there's more blatant nationalistic stuff like GATE, which shows the Japanese military invading and relentlessly slaughtering a much weaker force in a fantasy world, showing them ZERO mercy, using annihilation tactics not all that dissimilar to what they did in China in WWII, and they military are made out to be heroes. I remember someone commenting on it back on CR as "right wing snuff" ... you decide, but the obvious political overtones were there. And even some anime dabbles in western current day identity stuff like BNA which I did enjoy but the political references were there... As far as making fun of the audience- I think anime does that also; but the humor is different... like fan service is one way directors seem to do that; |
| It's nice that anime provides something totally different from western TV. my main complaint with anime is so many good shows never get a sequel. This business model of the anime existing only to promote the manga really sucks. |
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epidemia78 said: It's nice that anime provides something totally different from western TV. my main complaint with anime is so many good shows never get a sequel. This business model of the anime existing only to promote the manga really sucks. Sometimes it can be understood, but sometimes the anime doesn't even partially reveal the essence of the manga. For example, the adaptation of Aoi Hana didn't even make it to the main couple, wasting time on the prologue. |
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