| try to show them something adult, but not with a lot of fanservice another misconception is that all anime is porn, and showing your college class a pantsu shot isn't going to make them more comfortable with it at all. |
Kittenia said: Samurai Champloo, Baccano!, Mushishi, maybe a Ghibli film. |
| What do they not understand? Anime = movie, series, that is made on computer, simply, animated. Movie, series that is not animated, has many genre, comedy, drama, romance, action and so on, so why Anime could not have? Tell them that, and ask them, to give you at least one reason, why it should not be adultive. |
| The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven and Earth. The named is the mother of the ten thousand things. I do not recall, Jesus ever saying "build churches, temples, and kill those who doesn't follow christianity..." nor he said "christianity is religion". News for VN immigrants in EU: vietinfo.eu |
Brockemsockem said: Boku No Pico, everybody! I second this |
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spupapi said: What do they not understand? Anime = movie, series, that is made on computer, simply, animated. Movie, series that is not animated, has many genre, comedy, drama, romance, action and so on, so why Anime could not have? Tell them that, and ask them, to give you at least one reason, why it should not be adultive. Friend came up to me and said "Dude, you're always wearing those anime shirts" I replied "Yeah, I love the stuff. You watch any?" "No it's too fake for me." "Oh, well, what shows do you like, then?" I asked To my dismay he replied "Wrestling." I am not making this stuff up, lol. He went on to talk about Heroes and shows like Lost, which are also fake, just acted by real people and on SOMETIMES real locations. -_- I will use this example in my presentation. Yes, though, I hear ya, Spupapi, and completely agree/applaud. |
| I dare you to briefly mention Hentai. |
| Click on this. I dare you. | MAL Fantasy Football League | Currently Watching List RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. |
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Brockemsockem said: spupapi said: What do they not understand? Anime = movie, series, that is made on computer, simply, animated. Movie, series that is not animated, has many genre, comedy, drama, romance, action and so on, so why Anime could not have? Tell them that, and ask them, to give you at least one reason, why it should not be adultive. Friend came up to me and said "Dude, you're always wearing those anime shirts" I replied "Yeah, I love the stuff. You watch any?" "No it's too fake for me." "Oh, well, what shows do you like, then?" I asked To my dismay he replied "Wrestling." I am not making this stuff up, lol. He went on to talk about Heroes and shows like Lost, which are also fake, just acted by real people and on SOMETIMES real locations. -_- I will use this example in my presentation. Yes, though, I hear ya, Spupapi, and completely agree/applaud. The whole main point about movies, anime, and so on, is that to entertain ourselves. Who gives a s**t about fake or not. practically, even some news are fake. And thank. I wouldn't show them some hentai during presentation, but show your friend, some hentai on your phone or something. He might change view on it. |
| The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven and Earth. The named is the mother of the ten thousand things. I do not recall, Jesus ever saying "build churches, temples, and kill those who doesn't follow christianity..." nor he said "christianity is religion". News for VN immigrants in EU: vietinfo.eu |
| Afro Samurai, even my teachers watched it lol |
AlexSadist-sama said: Death Note. It's the *official* anime that got me into anime. Same here (Y) |
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| Code Geass has a serious plot and dynamic characters while still having some "light" and fun moments ^_^ it should be mature enough and not too confusing |
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giraffe13280 said: Code Geass has a serious plot and dynamic characters while still having some "light" and fun moments ^_^ it should be mature enough and not too confusing still too moe sometimes and zero's winposes may be just too much. |
animechap said: Did ANYONE read the first post thoroughly? He wants to find a mature anime to show his COLLEGE PUBLIC SPEAKING class that anime is not just for kids. It's not just he wants a good gateway anime with a mix of fun and smarts to show his pal Oh anything that would be appropriate for somebody who's never seen anime is fine, it doesn't have to be about a college class or anything. =) giraffe13280 said: Code Geass has a serious plot and dynamic characters while still having some "light" and fun moments ^_^ it should be mature enough and not too confusing Code Geass, in my opinion anyway, wouldn't make for a good first anime to someone who's never been exposed to it simply because it employs a somewhat childish art-style combined with mecha and radical fantasy. I would even go so far as to say a lot of the Gundam series are more suitable as they deal heavily with real politics often times without subjecting the viewer to any of the "HIGH SCHOOL CRAZY ANTICS" of Code Geass. That's not to say I wouldn't give Code Geass a try, but it certainly would not be my first choice. It is an anime for anime fans, probably not so much for the average viewer. Since I'm a fanboy I'll also throw in one of my own personal favorites: Gun-Grave Any every-day fan of mafia/crime/gangster movies or that type of atmosphere will instantly appreciate this show atleast by the third episode. Towards the end they have science fiction elements which would ease the anime-amateur into a more typical anime style. I love this series for so many reasons, it's too bad it doesn't seem to be more popular; I'll compensate by spreading the gospel of it, even to non-anime fans. =P |
CDRW said: Baccano! is pretty far from any anime geek stereotypes though. It also wasn't really that confusing, (and even if it is) all the main points are cleared near the end. I thought anime geek stereotypes are Naruto and harem shows with a lack of plot. Fanservice was rather minimal, there was a plot, characters were engaging, etc.Geeze guys, even in college do you think you can get away with showing things like Gantz and Baccano!? It's not like either one would make a good first impression either. One is hated by a lot of people and the other is confusing as hell. And both are exceedingly violent of course. You'll just end up confirming a buttload of anime geek stereotypes. |
| To be fair, the bulk of anime is aimed at children. American cartoons are no different. This does not however restrict the medium to children's shows. If you are looking for a serious anime free of japanese sterotypes, consider House of Small Cubes. It's only ten minutes long, artistic, emotional, and boasts an Oscar win for 2008's best short film. Spirited Away holds the 2003 Oscar for best animated film and receives high praise from MAL reviewers. I'm not an "anime person" myself, but I do enjoy sampling anime from time to time. Feel free to check my list for ideas. |
| I would have to say Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. The plot and overall themes could easily have made it an actual film or TV show. |
| Kids don't listen to classical music, try Nodame Cantabile. |
| Don't forget Beck as well. It's the anime I've been showing even my anime hating friends and they can't argue much against it. |
| I really couldn't be bothered to come up with a clever signature at this time. So right now I will go ahead and say nay and move on with my business |
| honestly imo death note wouldnt be such a great choice To ppl who doesnt like anime probably knows what Naruto seen as some lame show im pretty sure death note would be the same since its well known as well and those ppl who are really into anime really makes it look lame :/ seriously seeing them running like how they run in naruto with their arms out during PE is just wow... idk any anime that would be a good choice for a class when you're trying to prove anime could be serious aw I could think of now is clannad afterstory? for how it can relates to life ect w.e but in 20mins now that's gonna be tough tryin to cram everything [any anime for that matter] you got balls kid cuz i wouldnt go do presentation and say "yeah im totally into anime and im here to tell you it's no children bs and its some serious stuff" let alone even admiting to being a huge anime fan :x I can imagine how they would react thinking you be some narutard, loser, anime freak, loaner, ect ect seriously GL HF oh an word of advice for presenting dont exaggerate it too much |
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MelbShaw said: honestly imo death note wouldnt be such a great choice To ppl who doesnt like anime probably knows what Naruto seen as some lame show im pretty sure death note would be the same since its well known as well and those ppl who are really into anime really makes it look lame :/ seriously seeing them running like how they run in naruto with their arms out during PE is just wow... idk any anime that would be a good choice for a class when you're trying to prove anime could be serious aw I could think of now is clannad afterstory? for how it can relates to life ect w.e but in 20mins now that's gonna be tough tryin to cram everything [any anime for that matter] you got balls kid cuz i wouldnt go do presentation and say "yeah im totally into anime and im here to tell you it's no children bs and its some serious stuff" let alone even admiting to being a huge anime fan :x I can imagine how they would react thinking you be some narutard, loser, anime freak, loaner, ect ect seriously GL HF oh an word of advice for presenting dont exaggerate it too much No offense, friend, but you're only perpetuating the problem and idea that anime is childish by saying things like that. I don't know what you mean that I "have balls" for presenting about anime. I'm merely trying to dispel misconceptions surrounding an art form. It really doesn't take balls to talk about something you're passionate about. I'm surprised you, being on this forum, don't understand that, actually. Also, Death Note is a poor choice because it's popular? That doesn't make any sense, quite frankly, haha. I don't think I'd have any trouble invalidating all of your points if I really tried, so I'm really not worried about anyone contesting my opinion in the presentation, either. Very strange post, sir (oh, or ma'am). |
BrockemsockemApr 4, 2010 9:38 PM
| It would depend on the taste of the people you are showing anime to. If they like sword fights, blood guts, ninjas and other things like than show the Ninja Scroll movie. If they like cyborgs science fiction then show them Ghost in the shell movie. If they like syberpunk then show them AKira.If they like porn ten show them hentai but none of that incest or tranny bullshit. If they like something on the sad side then show Grave of the FireFlies. Start them off with movies or short OVAs to give them a taste,to basically give anime a spin. Show them the dubbed versions. Because most people do not like reading words when they are watching a video. There is already something for people who want to read and those things are called books.If you can not find a dubbed version then show the subbed version. And let them decide for themselves whether or not the Japanese or the English audio is better. And under no circumstances do you feed these people BS that anime is not cartoons or somehow superior to everything else.People's bullshit detectors will go off and will not give what ever it is you are trying to show them a chance. PLus that kind of shit will make it look like you are in denial or ashamed of the fact you watch cartoons. Nor do you do any trekkie nerd shit like wearing costumes, going to convention or trying to related a tv show to real life or try to make it seem like anime is the best thing out there and its shit doesn't stink.Associating anime with a weird nerdy outcast subculture is not going to get people to enjoy it. |
ezikialrage said: Show them the dubbed versions. Because most people do not like reading words when they are watching a video. There is already something for people who want to read and those things are called books.If you can not find a dubbed version then show the subbed version. And let them decide for themselves whether or not the Japanese or the English audio is better. And under no circumstances do you feed these people BS that anime is not cartoons or somehow superior to everything else.People's bullshit detectors will go off and will not give what ever it is you are trying to show them a chance. PLus that kind of shit will make it look like you are in denial or ashamed of the fact you watch cartoons. Nor do you do any trekkie nerd shit like wearing costumes, going to convention or trying to related a tv show to real life or try to make it seem like anime is the best thing out there and its shit doesn't stink.Associating anime with a weird nerdy outcast subculture is not going to get people to enjoy it. Yes, without question, no matter who I'd show anime to it would be in their native tongue; people need to be able to relate to something immediately and effortlessly, and that's the first step. I disagree with your other point, though, about telling people that it's not cartoons. People, atleast where I'm from, have this idea that anime fans sit in their houses all day and watch Hey Arnold or Rugrats or something, when in reality they could very well be watching a chick blow limbs off of security guards with her mind-powers. It's completely different and I'd never be afraid to say that, nor do I believe it would be wrong to do so. I don't see how that would make me "ashamed", just...well, more knowledgeable and open-minded, really. Also, about the outcast subculture, the only way anything ever became popular is by first being a small trend or outcast idea. I remember when emo was a weird, strange thing that everyone hated, now it seems like everyone everywhere kind of adopted it, at least in my area. People FLOCK to a niche idea, actually; they crave to be in-the-know. If someone sees you laughing at something or intensely enjoying a certain type of music, it's human nature that they'll be interested. Test it sometime; bait someone into what you're occupied with by making yourself noticeably interested in it. Draw on a sketch pad next to someone and they'll atleast look at it. People WANT to know what's going on, so outcast subculture is just a misunderstood niche. |
BrockemsockemApr 4, 2010 9:52 PM
| an episode of Jigoku Shoujo. Jigoku Shoujo have very good trailers/promotional video. Let them witness the hauntingly beautiful Enma Ai. |
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| You can't show code geass to them.They'll become one of those people who speak gibberish and fight over wether he's dead or alive >_< |
Maikeru69Apr 4, 2010 10:23 PM
animechap said: mrjiggles said: Kids don't listen to classical music, try Nodame Cantabile. ??????????????????????? I've been a classical music junkie for the longest time and could still be considered a kid, I'm 14 'twas a stereotypical post. Hell, the main character was interested in classical music since he was a kid. |
| Apart from what everyone has recommended, I'm thinking Hellsing, especially the Ultimate series. Take some of the kick-ass fighting scenes (I still remember a scene with a Nazi ghoul eating a baby). Shigurui is a non-comic based anime, and it has scenes where you crumble your toes. |
| 行けー幼子兵器！あれは木端微塵に粉砕しろ! |
| Baccano, Serial Experiment Lain, Death Note |
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| CLANNNAD. Shakugan no shana ^^ |
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invisible29 said: Shakugan no Shana ^^ I think that's a very fine choice, I mean, after all, what got me into watching anime regularly is not DBZ or Naruto. It's Shakugan no Shana. |
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| Hmm.. Skip Beat! It's light and a very great anime! |
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| Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal anyone? From what I've seen of Nana that's a good choice as well, for either gender in my opinion. |
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Tachii said: Sex, fanservice, and idiot plots aren't the only stereotype. Perhaps you are forgetting about the part where they blow a child's head off. Actual age aside, that level of violence not going to go over well with a whole lot of people. CDRW said: Baccano! is pretty far from any anime geek stereotypes though. It also wasn't really that confusing, (and even if it is) all the main points are cleared near the end. I thought anime geek stereotypes are Naruto and harem shows with a lack of plot. Fanservice was rather minimal, there was a plot, characters were engaging, etc.Geeze guys, even in college do you think you can get away with showing things like Gantz and Baccano!? It's not like either one would make a good first impression either. One is hated by a lot of people and the other is confusing as hell. And both are exceedingly violent of course. You'll just end up confirming a buttload of anime geek stereotypes. As for not being confusing, I don't know what kind of drugs you're taking but that show was downright schitzophrenic at times, especially the beginning. You can make sense of it if you're interested and paying close attention, but for an audience that's skeptical of anime in the first place you might as well just throw Serial Experiments Lain in their face. And last of all, it's a twenty minute presentation. No longer directed at Tachii: I will repeat this once and only once. Super violence is not going to convince anyone that your shows are mature. It will do the opposite. |
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| I would show a newcomer Death Note or Samurai Champloo first. Depending on the person I would also show them Naruto and Bleach those were my first and they worked for me :D |
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| Well... I will recommend Honey and clover. the people that I know think all animes are a like thike Dragon ball pokémon or all CN or animax pass. Honey and clover is a god anime with no action no violence and no blood. |
| Samurai Champloo, nuff said. |
| I'll suggest Kino's Journey, ep 1 for your presentation. Also: Mushishi, Haibane Renmei, perhaps Hatenkou Yuugi. These are shows without typical anime cliches, and don't have fanservice or over-the-top violence. They're also not childish, and most every episode of these shows will make viewers think. |
| Death Note, Escaflowne, The Place Promised in Our Early Days, Trinity Blood, Myself Yourself, Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora, Wolf Rain, Vampire Knight + VKG, Shion no Ou, Sola, Kirepapa (its yaoi ;P) Hyakko, K-ON!, Gakuen Heaven, Cowboy Bebob, Chobits, Bronze since 1984 (another yaoi.) Sorry for the long list...I kinda got carried away, but heres the list I think that is hardly Childish, and some serious. Eh, its up to you if you want to use the yaoi anime =x. Goodluck on your presentation! :) |
TimareApr 6, 2010 3:31 AM
CDRW said: but that show was downright schitzophrenic at times, especially the beginning. EL OH EL Anyway, I would have wanted to suggest TTGL, but not as first. One of my friends watched Code Geass randomly one night and let me know the next day "I saw this really cool anime thing, you probably watched it and the brown haired guy was SO CUTE". ;) |
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EternalKnight said: For serious animation, probably Serial Experiment Lain. Yes. You must introduce them to the awesome mind-fuck that is Serial Experiments Lain. That and GITS. |
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