Should Wakfu be considered an anime ?

doshiteKAMISAMA said:
Well if Wakfu got added then shows like Voltron (netflix reboot) would have to be added, and from there we'd end up adding shit like Rick and Morty to MAL.
Unfortunately the definition of anime is 'Japanese' animation/film, so I doubt it will be added.

spaesu said:
mal has a weird specific criteria for anime, if you wanna learn more i'd recommend reading it

Piromysl said:

Wakfu is entirely French, so nope.

spaesu said:

click on the "it" in my previous quote and it will take you to the page, this is the link anyway though

Kuma said:
i don't want MAL to start open the gate to those bajilion "anime like" series.

Leenbow said:


But if it feels like anime in every sense (for me even french voice sounded similar to Japanese xD) - then it isn't really bad as an idea. Wakfu, Dofus and Avatar pretty much must be here, they're more anime then a lot of anime)

But i understand logical issues with adding them here

sekaiwaKIREI said:
Well if Wakfu got added then shows like Voltron (netflix reboot) would have to be added, and from there we'd end up adding shit like Rick and Morty to MAL.
Unfortunately the definition of anime is 'Japanese' animation/film, so I doubt it will be added.

SparkingVolt said:


Yeah but heres the thing we got shit like tower of god, noblesse, the god of highschool which technically arent anime. I always hear people try to say “But they were animated by japanese studios” so what? they werent made for japan. If thats the case then The Legend of Korra should be on here since its first season is animated by Studio Pierrot. In my opinion it needs to be animated by japan for japan to be considered an anime.

Dauphine said:
No, anime is not an art style, otherwise you would have to include anything that even slightly takes artistic inspiration from anime.

Dauphine said:

Chinese and Korean animation are here because they are both Asian and allowed according to the MAL rules!



No, they aren't produced in Japan nor any other Asian country so they do NOT belong here!

French probably sounds like Japanese to you because you cannot understand either of them so they both sound the same to you.

And they definitely don't feel like anime either, the atmosphere, the story telling, characters archetypes, character reactions and interactions, the comedy etc. they are all different.

Leenbow said:


Not cool, man(woman)!
You're telling me everything that i know with ! in the end of sentences!

Except for the last part. They definitely feel like anime, so i can't agree with you. Both Avatar and Wakfu are basically shounens with comedy elements. (there is a threat to the world order, big villain, and heros adventure to stop that villain)

Also, you could know (200+ completed anime, you really could) that in anime there exist different atmospheres (example: Maid in Abyss VS Lovely Complex), different storytelling (example: Kaguya-sama VS Fullmetal Alchemist), different characters archetypes (actually... probably archetypes arent much different anywhere - they're atchetypes) and others. Character reactions with their "emotion sounds" are probably the most unique anime feature (i remember this exact thing creeping me out when i first started watching anime) - but not every anime actually has those (Spirited away as example, if i remember correctly)

All in all, the main reason why those cant be added is metioned higher - there is basically no exact creteria to describe those shows, and with subjectivity in mind - adding something like Avatar may then result in adding something like Rick&Morty later, because, well, they are both animated.
I don't think "shows from China, Korea and Japan" is a good rule - it is quite limited. It just makes the job done, easily cutting out all non-similar animation shows. But then it really separates basically "anime from other countries" - that's where it works bad

Dauphine said:

I more mean that since they have a different culture that also in a way influences the way they tell stories, it's especially apparent in the comedy, for example, as western comedy is usually all about gross out humour whereas anime comedy very rarely relies on this fortunately.

Leenbow said:
Maid in Abyss

Leenbow said:


Yes, fortunately animes heavily rely on fanservice instead, thats what defines anime and that's how you know should never watch anime! (I'm referring to the thing that I personally hate, you may insert anything else).

"Western comedy is usually all about gross out humour" - now compare mentioned "Rick and Morty" with mentioned "Wakfu". The difference is... kinda drastic. ASPECIALLY in the humour approach. How that could possibly be?

You can't group all western animation (or all western comedies) in one category, just the same way you can't do that with all anime.



...when played genshin impact too much, ops

Dauphine said:

Hmm...maybe you're right, i don't really watch cartoons on TV anymore but when i did(a long time ago) that's usually the kind of humour i saw and i very much hate gross humour, though i might have generalized too much...

I agree with you on the fanservice part though, i try to avoid watching ecchi anime.

Nubiellee said:
Wakfu has nothing to do with anime. What a random topic.

all the production is done in France except the special episodes "Noximilien l'Horloger" and "Ogrest, la Légende", both produced in Japan.

The special episode "Noximilien l'Horloger", the origin story of the main antagonist, Nox, was produced in Japan and features a radically different art style made by the same team of animators who worked on Kaiba and Kemonozume. The episode was directed by Eunyoung Choi with Masaaki Yuasa on character design.