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Feb 10, 2021 5:34 PM
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I just put a request in but it seems odd to me since it's not that obscure, is there some requirement it doesn't meet? Or the mods just haven't gotten to it yet?

https://anilist.co/manga/126135/Bibliomania/

https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/bibliomania

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=173924

etc etc. Thanks!
Feb 10, 2021 5:49 PM
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Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:
I. Manga Additions

I.2.7 Doujinshi
Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!
Feb 10, 2021 5:58 PM
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Phloup said:
Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:
I. Manga Additions

I.2.7 Doujinshi
Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!


Does it not have an official publisher? I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff but MU lists it under the Creative Entertainment publisher, are they not "official"?
Mar 30, 2021 4:09 AM
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Leosmileyface said:
Phloup said:
Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!


Does it not have an official publisher? I'm not too knowledgeable on this stuff but MU lists it under the Creative Entertainment publisher, are they not "official"?
It might be because it was only published online, but I'm not sure.

Amazon is selling it as an e-book: https://www.amazon.co.jp/BIBLIOMANIA-%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AFPerry-%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%83%AD-ebook/dp/B07ZP18DN7

But a physical copy exist and seems to be like quite official publication, selling in actual bookstore from what I'm gathering from googletranslation the tweet: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1066884979550908416?lang=he

This should probably get accepted in the database.
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Apr 13, 2021 1:52 AM
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I've tried to add, but couldn't find Creative Entertainment or Manga Hack for the Serialization field.
Apr 13, 2021 9:59 AM
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Phloup said:
Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:
I. Manga Additions

I.2.7 Doujinshi
Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!

How can published work be made by an unpublished author? The moment it was published, they became a published author. The publisher is Creative Entertainment and they've published over 30 other titles. None that I've searched for are on this site. The entire catalogue needs to be added.
Apr 13, 2021 2:29 PM
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@Leosmileyface

I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)).
I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation.

@abystoma2

I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one.

By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi).


@Amonimus

It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field).


@PsychoticDave

You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment.

I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility.


I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask.
Jul 11, 2021 12:33 PM
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well, i hope the author(s?) get something published officially soon because BIBLIOMANIA was absolutely amazing
Nov 2, 2021 12:18 PM
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Phloup said:
@Leosmileyface

I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)).
I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation.

@abystoma2

I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one.

By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi).


@Amonimus

It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field).


@PsychoticDave

You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment.

I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility.


I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask.


Hi this is a very old post but I was just wondering, what is Bibliomania a doujinshi of? I thought it was an original work
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Bincal said:
Hi this is a very old post but I was just wondering, what is Bibliomania a doujinshi of? I thought it was an original work

Doujinshi simply refers to a self-published work (in other words, not published by a publishing company). So even if it is an original work, it is still considered doujinshi (if it was published independently).
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Phloup said:
Bincal said:
Hi this is a very old post but I was just wondering, what is Bibliomania a doujinshi of? I thought it was an original work

Doujinshi simply refers to a self-published work (in other words, not published by a publishing company). So even if it is an original work, it is still considered doujinshi (if it was published independently).


Ah I see thank you! I thought doujinshi was only fan work of another series.
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Bincal said:
Phloup said:

Doujinshi simply refers to a self-published work (in other words, not published by a publishing company). So even if it is an original work, it is still considered doujinshi (if it was published independently).


Ah I see thank you! I thought doujinshi was only fan work of another series.


Hi! Bibliomania has just released in Spain by a new publisher called Kibook :)
Oct 16, 2022 4:35 AM
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Yuben said:
Hi! Bibliomania has just released in Spain by a new publisher called Kibook :)


More info

https://kibookediciones.com/inicio/20-manga-01.html

https://kibookediciones.com/content/7-quien-somos
Oct 16, 2022 8:04 AM
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Phloup said:
Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:
I. Manga Additions

I.2.7 Doujinshi
Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!


Hello, the editorial kibook ediciones, liscence it in Spain,
https://kibookediciones.com/inicio/20-manga-01.html
Oct 16, 2022 8:17 AM

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Pijus_Magnificus said:
Hello, the editorial kibook ediciones, liscence it in Spain,
https://kibookediciones.com/inicio/20-manga-01.html


Unfortunately , it won't change anything.

MAL takes into account only the country of origin.
Even if it got licensed in Spain or elsewhere , it's still not the case for Japan , so it still won't be added.
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@Leosmileyface

I kind of have a bit of difficulty explaining why they aren't "official" (according to MAL guidelines), but in very simple terms, it's due to the fact that Creative Entertainment solely publishes series in electronic form (e-books). For web manga/doujinshi like Bibliomania to be eligible, they must be published in print by a reputable physical publishing company (in other words, not independently nor solely on digital platforms (unless that digital platform is owned by the publisher)).
I've added a bit more information below, so hopefully the rest of this post will clear things up. If it doesn't, feel free to ask for further explanation.

@abystoma2

I believe that the physical copy was published independently. I was not able to find any sources of a reputable publisher releasing the physical version of this manga doujinshi. And even if it was sold in an official bookstore, the original publisher still has to be a professional one.

By the way, it won't be eligible based on guideline I.2.2, as the site it was serialized on (Kai-You) is not owned by a reputable publisher (or at least I don't think it is). Similarly, it's not eligible based on guidelines I.2.7 and I.2.8 as 1. the authors are not professionally published, and 2. the physical version is, as mentioned above, not released by a reputable publishing company (it's doujinshi).


@Amonimus

It was serialized in Kai-You (which is also not currently in the serialization field).


@PsychoticDave

You forgot a key word: professional. Doujinshi are not professional, so they are not professionally published authors. Also, check the top of this post out for a bit more information on Creative Entertainment.

I'm not really sure whether any manga released by Creative Entertainment are on the database or not, but if it's published in print, the it's eligible. If not, then it's not eligible, unless it can meet a different condition for its eligibility.


I apologize if I did a poor job at explaining why it's not eligible. If you wish to get a clearer explanation, feel free to ask.
@Phloup
I've come to learn that the author "おおばる" is a pseudonym for https://myanimelist.net/people/70535/Junpei_Fujita - the creator of the animated adaptation (https://myanimelist.net/anime/57677/Bibliomania) and who has worked on various other projects, such as an art director for: https://myanimelist.net/anime/35372/Otoppe (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%83%9A)

Considering that this has received an independent Japanese physical publication: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1103172061629837312
Along with the Japanese eBook publication: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07ZP18DN7

Might it be eligible? As far as I understand, the professional requirement has overlap between the anime and manga database (meaning that if you are a professional animator, your independently published manga are eligible, and vice versa).

Source:
https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/929347661660020736
https://www.des-art.news/book/artdirector-hakuhoudou-vol3-4
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Reply to Phloup
Bibliomania is not eligible to be part of the database (yet) as it was created by unpublished authors.

From Manga DB Guidelines:
I. Manga Additions

I.2.7 Doujinshi
Self-published, printed volumes by professional creators with works already in MAL's Manga DB using their own or public domain characters.


As far as I'm aware, the authors of Bibliomania have no professionally published works as of now. Until the authors create a professionally produced work, or Bibliomania is published by an official publisher, it will remain ineligible.

Hope this answers your question!
@Phloup right now bibliomania is been published by kibook in spain is that enough for been in the web??
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@Phloup right now bibliomania is been published by kibook in spain is that enough for been in the web??
@ZOMBOstar_ Unfortunately, that's not enough as per MAL's guidelines and as previously mentioned above by other users... 😔 BUT Kwanthemaster's post has some bearing. Bibliomania could probably be added as per Kwan's research/discovery...

Kwanthemaster said:
I've come to learn that the author "おおばる" is a pseudonym for https://myanimelist.net/people/70535/Junpei_Fujita - the creator of the animated adaptation (https://myanimelist.net/anime/57677/Bibliomania) and who has worked on various other projects, such as an art director for: https://myanimelist.net/anime/35372/Otoppe (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%83%9A)

Considering that this has received an independent Japanese physical publication: https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/1103172061629837312
Along with the Japanese eBook publication: https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07ZP18DN7

Might it be eligible? As far as I understand, the professional requirement has overlap between the anime and manga database (meaning that if you are a professional animator, your independently published manga are eligible, and vice versa).

Source:
https://twitter.com/macchiro_/status/929347661660020736
https://www.des-art.news/book/artdirector-hakuhoudou-vol3-4

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