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Feb 1, 2021 7:16 AM

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The thing I will complain about this episode was the fight with Paul, they shortened and removed the dialogue/reasoning parts that were cool for me.

Controversy gone, next!

Can't wait for next ep that will start the real action! ;)

Glordit said:
The manga is seriously lacking in content and detail.

Even with manga only, it was quite clear so it's just him not getting it.

Actar said:

I've always found this to be a rather fascinating thought experiment. So, is it okay for Rudy, in a 7-year-old's body, be lusting over 40-year-old women? If a 40-year-old woman were to have sex with him, would that be okay? Will she be prioritizing his mental age above his physical age? Must Rudy wait until his body catches up to his mental age for him to be in the clear? But will it ever? I mean, he'll be mentally 80 when he's physically 40. Hm...



Obviously the only age that matters is the body one.



Rarkis said:

This is his new life and I think it would be normal for him to be influenced by his new body, new circunstances and eventually have relationships with people of the same age.
What tastes bad is how he states that he is (and feels, and thinks) mentally 40 yo and that a infant is already cute (attractive connotation). It wouldn't be as remarcable if the scene hadn't pulled attention to these things.


He is influenced by his body yes, but he didn't lose his memory, you can't really blame him for being convinced about being 40.
After all his consciuosness is 40.

Rudy is a perverted piece of trash who is also grooming his only friend.

Ahh yes, a child grooming another child lol.
bruh
Feb 1, 2021 7:41 AM
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No OP again, was expecting them to use it for the birth of Aisha and Norn, but oh well, they certainly looked cute.

For those despairing, even if Roxy is not with Rudeous any longer, you still get scenes of her, here and there, going forward, that is how it is going to be for both of them until one day... keep watching or go read. xD

Fantastic fight, with fights like those, you really need time to animate.
Dare to imagine what they will do for some of the most spectacular fights ahead.

Winter_Fox said:
I hope next episode we will get out from this 4 streak s*x episodes and explore the world outside, i truly wanna see the true potential of this series.


Very looking forward to the next episode, should show a lot of people who the best girl actually is~~

Predict people will overreact quite a bit.

Feb 1, 2021 7:50 AM

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So far, this is probably the most down to earth isekai you'd see out there. This would probably be the most likely scenario were you to get transported into another world someday and that fact makes it unique. Personally, I do enjoy action filled and where most people would call them 'generic' isekais but I seem to be enjoying this a lot too as it progresses probably due to how interesting and unique it is. Looking forward to more.
Feb 1, 2021 7:53 AM
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Before this episode Paul, was shaping up to be one of my favorite dads in media.
I loved how he's the "ever after" version of the hero you would normally follow.
And even though it was wrong of him to hit his kid. It made sense with his character being a "paladin" archetype seeing things in black and white and punishing his son for using his magic against perceived innocent kids... only to regret it when Paul gets the full picture.
And most of all I adored a portrayal of loving and raunchy relationship between a husband and wife...
But this episode f#¤&"in destroyed his character! What a bad twist and "excellent" character-assassination...
Rest in peace healthy-relationship-as-portrayed-by-anime... I guess you will forever be unsolved shonen love, incest and harems...
Feb 1, 2021 7:58 AM
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The scene when lilia and paul about entering her room was f**king lit. I wish make a ova scene about how paul bang lilia's body. Lol. Just kidding but i honestly i want to see that.
Feb 1, 2021 8:40 AM
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lol, seeing a lot of people butthurt is quite funny. i think they(rudy and paul) being a scum and seeing them better themselves will be quite a good character development.
Feb 1, 2021 8:45 AM

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Damn, this episode took a bit of a surprising turn. Where's Maury Povich when you need him.
Feb 1, 2021 9:14 AM

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Deknijff said:
Man the fuck, Lilia super hot with her uniform but they fucked it up real hard here lol


ass be looking like the asses of those ugly old folks people in retirement homes


Nope, that's how all asses look like when sitting on an old medieval bed

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Feb 1, 2021 10:23 AM
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Gilgameshuu said:
1. The cheating part in the beginning is so very unrealistic and poorly executed, I find it hard to believe that Zenith would just let the cheating slide, and the fact that Rudeus was even able to convince her in the first place. I feel like it was completely unnecassary to the story, since it was basically just, Paul cheats, family problems, Rudeus talks, problem solved, it just feels so shallow, maybe it was better in the Novels, but from what was shown in the anime, I really didn't like it.

i was kinda unde the impression , this is a world where stuff like muliple wife and main wife + concubines is standard ordeal
Feb 1, 2021 10:24 AM
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jTiKey said:



Yes, perversion, cheating, killing, stealing is part of this world. That doesn't mean they are correct. The show's author portraits stealing panties, raping females, having laud sex in a full house of people, masturbating in the hallway to laud sex, objectifying women with minors, "raising a perfect female" as something ordinary and normal. These things are not. These things are porn scenarios. The show is not "brave" to include sexual stuff, it's a hetero male sexual dream, ecchi. No idea why MAL doesn't want to include that tag.



MT is a story lenient when it comes down to (putting it lightly) morally dubious behavior. Touché. However Rudeus fantasizing about rising Silphy into his perfect woman was a recognized character flaw. That's why Paulo decided to separate them (in the WN explicitly). Silphy needs to learn to stand on her own to legs.

Also loud sex in a family house is not unusual even if inconsiderate. I live in a flat with thin walls and I did quite a few times hear certain things from my neighbors. Getting caught masturbating (aside from at public places ofc) is at most embarrassing. MT uses these things for fanservice and comic relief, which definitely is not everyone's cup of tea. However the former is a way of showing Paulo's character and foreshadow him cheating. The latter shows Roxys interest in the opposite sex despite her seeming to be only interested in her work. Ofc course there are other ways to convey that, but precisely this context makes these scenes more than "just" fanservice.

Otherwise, I have nothing against an ecchi tag for MT, though in MT ecchi is not the main dish, more like seasoning. People going after ecchi should look more for stuff like shinmai maou.
EvilSociopath323Feb 1, 2021 10:28 AM
Feb 1, 2021 10:47 AM

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Hahahahaha, Paul. What a piece of garbage man. Highly doubt he'll ever be able to redeem himself in my eyes.
Feb 1, 2021 11:08 AM

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EvilSociopath323 said:

However Rudeus fantasizing about rising Silphy into his perfect woman was a recognized character flaw. That's why Paulo decided to separate them (in the WN explicitly). Silphy needs to learn to stand on her own to legs.


Did Rudy tell about his fantasy to his father? It was just an inner monologue in the anime. Didn't Rudy go for a job?

EvilSociopath323 said:

Also loud sex in a family house is not unusual even if inconsiderate. I live in a flat with thin walls and I did quite a few times hear certain things from my neighbors.


Did you enjoy it? did you ask them to be louder? Are those neighbors your parents? Knowingly screaming at the top of your lungs while you have a child and worker in the house is just disrespectful to both of them.

EvilSociopath323 said:

Getting caught masturbating (aside from at public places ofc) is at most embarrassing. MT uses these things for fanservice and comic relief, which definitely is not everyone's cup of tea.


I said nothing about masturbation in your private space. But in the hallway?!

EvilSociopath323 said:

"just" fanservice.


Distasteful and unneeded at that point.
Feb 1, 2021 11:29 AM

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sangwiny said:
Father: cheater and rapist
Son: grooming a 7 year old girl

It looks like the finale of "biggest piece of shit" contest


I was so uncomfortable when I heard Rudy saying "turn her into my ideal women" what?

I know they toned down the piece of shit Rudy actually was/is in the novel but how can so many people look at this line and find it just "pervy" and not seriously creepy.
Feb 1, 2021 11:38 AM
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jTiKey said:

Did Rudy tell about his fantasy to his father? It was just an inner monologue in the anime. Didn't Rudy go for a job?


No, but Paul did see that she was completely depending on Rudy and that Rudy is more intelligent than her. She would be far too easily influenced by Rudy and unable to have an independent opinion. That was clear even to Paul. If he wanted just a job for Rudy there was no need to separate them.

jTiKey said:

Did you enjoy it? did you ask them to be louder? Are those neighbors your parents? Knowingly screaming at the top of your lungs while you have a child and worker in the house is just disrespectful to both of them.

Yes to all. Wasn't that much obvious? I agree that it's inconsiderate. My point was, that it's not a big deal.
jTiKey said:

I said nothing about masturbation in your private space. But in the hallway?!

Everything in a family house is private space (and yes, Roxy and Lilia were considered as part of family). Again, any sane person would just go watch porn, alas they did not have that back in the medieval ages.

jTiKey said:

Distasteful and unneeded at that point.

They are part of the storytelling. Doesn't change what I said/my point. Shows like Battle Star Galactica, Westworld, GoT, well any HBO show really are distastful and unneeded at that point too.
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HistoricalMaize said:
sangwiny said:
Father: cheater and rapist
Son: grooming a 7 year old girl

It looks like the finale of "biggest piece of shit" contest


I was so uncomfortable when I heard Rudy saying "turn her into my ideal women" what?

I know they toned down the piece of shit Rudy actually was/is in the novel but how can so many people look at this line and find it just "pervy" and not seriously creepy.
something something grand daddy isekai "if you take it out it won't make all his character development meaningful" all it's done is not make me give a shit about him.

this show just drops lines like this so casually i can't even process it at times lol
inuyasha fans aren't the only ones now having to worry about grooming
Feb 1, 2021 11:55 AM

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heitoo said:

That's true for literally any LN adaptation, at least if we're talking about decently written ones. Manga can translate well into anime because it's basically already a screenplay, actual novels do not.

UPD: The truth is, this adaptation is already much better than most readers anticipated. Back when this was announced, the usual reaction was "hm, cool, but isn't it impossible to adapt MT well since it's that long and most of it is internal monologues?".


It really isn't. This is some make believe that has somehow manifested itself in the western community. If it was primarily an advertisement in this day and age then the committees wouldn't look the way they do. If advertising is all you want to do there are far more avenues to go through that do not involve an anime adaption which has been characteristic for years now to have a widespread net of income streams.
Feb 1, 2021 12:10 PM

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EvilSociopath323 said:


No, but Paul did see that she was completely depending on Rudy and that Rudy is more intelligent than her. She would be far too easily influenced by Rudy and unable to have an independent opinion. That was clear even to Paul. If he wanted just a job for Rudy there was no need to separate them.


Then it has nothing to do with "sculpting a perfect woman".

EvilSociopath323 said:

Everything in a family house is private space (and yes, Roxy and Lilia were considered as part of family). Again, any sane person would just go watch porn, alas they did not have that back in the medieval ages.


What are you talking about? Are you really justifying masturbating in a hallway where everyone could just walk into you?

EvilSociopath323 said:

They are part of the storytelling. Doesn't change what I said/my point. Shows like Battle Star Galactica, Westworld, GoT, well any HBO show really are distastful and unneeded at that point too.


Those shows don't have a 13+ rating and are normalizing that stuff as this show does.
Feb 1, 2021 12:24 PM

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I feel like this show so far is its own worse enemy.

On the one hand, it definitely has a strong hook, good production values, and flashes of brilliance.

However, the way that this show has just been handing its themes regarding sexuality has been distasteful at best and uncomfortable at worse. I get Rudy is trying to redeem himself from what he once was, but the way it handles its humour seems like it's from a completely different show. It's offputting. Now we have a character like Paul who is essentially in the same shoes, but the show just doesn't seem to want to respect the gravity of the situations it puts its characters in. I think that's where the criticisms of this show just being extremely horny and nothing else comes from. The majority of the "development" has been shallow and disingenuous and I hope it can start to improve from this point forward
Feb 1, 2021 12:25 PM

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katsu044 said:
HistoricalMaize said:


I was so uncomfortable when I heard Rudy saying "turn her into my ideal women" what?

I know they toned down the piece of shit Rudy actually was/is in the novel but how can so many people look at this line and find it just "pervy" and not seriously creepy.
something something grand daddy isekai "if you take it out it won't make all his character development meaningful" all it's done is not make me give a shit about him.

this show just drops lines like this so casually i can't even process it at times lol
inuyasha fans aren't the only ones now having to worry about grooming


At first they conveniently tryed not to mention the things that make Rudy a piece of garbage in the novel and then they just drop this "discrete" (but not really) "clues" that make it even worse like how am I supposed to believe in his redemption if he does not admit that what he did in his past life was wrong? Not only that the anime itself does not tell you what he actually did in his past life and trys to pretend he was just a "perv" and an innocent shut in which is just a lie.

If you already dont know and dont mind being spoiled click the button below its the truth about that scene on episode 2 and after reading that spoiler tell me what you think about one of the things the MC says in that very same episode which is something along the lines of "what is the problem if I am like this" which seems like an innocent line because the anime hides the true disgusting context behind.

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jTiKey said:
Then it has nothing to do with "sculpting a perfect woman".

A girl that gives in to your every whim since she's depend on you and what Rudy was trying to achieve is virtually the same. By denying that it's Ok for Silphy to be like that the show denies the correctness of Rudys intention.
jTiKey said:
What are you talking about? Are you really justifying masturbating in a hallway where everyone could just walk into you?

It's not justified, careless and can be certainly frowned upon, but it's more understandable in a medieval setting. But how should the show have punished Roxy for that? And yes, I consider throwing her out would be an overreaction and out of character for Paul and Zenith, who are quite nice people.
jTiKey said:
Those shows don't have a 13+ rating and are normalizing that stuff as this show does.

I disagree with that rating and didn't even notice it but you're right there. Normalization takes place among other things through desensitisation. Those shows have rape, prostitution and casual sex all over the place. Also, Gaius Baltar has sex with his imaginary girlfriend on a public place without any repercussions. GoT has an incestuous child-killer getting redeemed. Still, MT is a tad more lenient even compared to those shows, by how big of a difference that makes depends on the person. Even I don't like everything about MT. It's just that I swallow the things that I don't like since this show has put into itself slightly more thought that just fanservice fantasy porn.
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Fappa said:
It really isn't. This is some make believe that has somehow manifested itself in the western community. If it was primarily an advertisement in this day and age then the committees wouldn't look the way they do.


It doesn't matter what the committee objective is as long as any observant viewer feels disadvantaged by not reading the source material. Most anime adaptation just go through the motions (e.g. we need to show event A, B, C) without actually artistically adapting the story to a new medium. Basically Japanese anime production at scale is about mechanically following manga pages as a screenplay, slapping some hype soundtrack on it and calling it done. Very few works go beyond that.

Then compare it to western approach and see how different, for example, Witcher TV series is compared to books and how much creative work goes into adapting the source material beyond just "animating" the events of the novel. It's entirely different creation in its own right.
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So, it's bad enough that Paul cheated on his wife with the maid, but is no one going to talk about the fact that part of his back story is that he literally r*ped Lillia in her sleep? And then they just pass that off as him being a playboy instead of a horrible human being? Paul's done some really terrible things and this show is taking it way too lightly.
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heitoo said:

Then compare it to western approach and see how different, for example, Witcher TV series is compared to books and how much creative work goes into adapting the source material beyond just showing the summary of events as is and slapping a hype soundtrack on it.


Most LN to anime adaptations are lazy. But it's also hard adapting stuff. Adapting means that somethings gonna get missing. If you watch GoT or The Witcher, book readers are gonna say that you're missing out on a ton of good stuff. But there is plenty to be gained from an visual adaptation. Namely eye and ear candy, plus sometimes the adaptation changes stuff for the better. Like the MT anime using the snow setting to better justify Lilia staying with the Greyrats or using a more ambiguous term for Pauls assault on Lillia (nekomi wo osou is not strictly rape).

There are plenty of bad western adaptations. Take The Witcher for example and the crucial final episode titled "something more".
Feb 1, 2021 1:26 PM

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EvilSociopath323 said:

There are plenty of bad western adaptations. Take The Witcher for example and the crucial final episode titled "something more".


The reason I picked Witcher specifically as example is to illustrate how western approach to book adaptations actually involves some creativity. They take a source material and remake it from the ground up for different medium.

Japanese approach: take a 300 pages volume, distill it to 60-80 pages picture summary, animate back to back in auto-pilot mode, add a bit of sauce (sauce usually being music and superflous fan service stuff), done.
Feb 1, 2021 1:27 PM
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Man I hate Paul. Like I get that it's more realistic to have problems like this but they were such a happy family and Zenith deserves better. Also I like how it kinda just glosses over the fact that Paul just straight up raped the maid in her sleep and took her virginity in sword school?? Wtf was that??
He didnt rape her tho, she opened the door for him to come in. But Paul should've kept his dick in his pants. He probably had sex with more girls before
no I'm talking about when Rudy and her were talking about her past, it said when they were in school he came into her room while she was asleep and deflowered her
Feb 1, 2021 1:38 PM

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HistoricalMaize said:
katsu044 said:
something something grand daddy isekai "if you take it out it won't make all his character development meaningful" all it's done is not make me give a shit about him.

this show just drops lines like this so casually i can't even process it at times lol
inuyasha fans aren't the only ones now having to worry about grooming


At first they conveniently tryed not to mention the things that make Rudy a piece of garbage in the novel and then they just drop this "discrete" (but not really) "clues" that make it even worse like how am I supposed to believe in his redemption if he does not admit that what he did in his past life was wrong? Not only that the anime itself does not tell you what he actually did in his past life and trys to pretend he was just a "perv" and an innocent shut in which is just a lie.

If you already dont know and dont mind being spoiled click the button below its the truth about that scene on episode 2 and after reading that spoiler tell me what you think about one of the things the MC says in that very same episode which is something along the lines of "what is the problem if I am like this" which seems like an innocent line because the anime hides the true disgusting context behind.

good lord i saw that floating around i just really didn't want to read into ,really makes that line even worse.

i swear i'm watching a different show than most people with how disingenuous it's being with handling nearly all of it's more "mature" if you can even say that at this point themes ,not often i have something i want to try and enjoy but at every waking second it gets in the way of it.
Feb 1, 2021 1:41 PM
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heitoo said:
EvilSociopath323 said:

There are plenty of bad western adaptations. Take The Witcher for example and the crucial final episode titled "something more".


The reason I picked Witcher specifically as example is to illustrate how western approach to book adaptations actually involves some creativity. They take a source material and remake it from the ground up for different medium.

Japanese approach: take a 300 pages volume, distill it to 60-80 pages picture summary, animate back to back in auto-pilot mode, add a bit of sauce (sauce usually being music and superflous fan service stuff), done.

That's were your right. And such approach creates way more incentive to watch the adaptation for those who know the original source. But it's even more annoying to anyone wanting to know the original story without having to actually read the original.

Anime adaptations could certainly benefit from a bit more courage. But the primary problem is low effort and low budget. There ist also plenty of demand for both approaches. Some people are heavily expecting Denis Villeneuve's Dune since it's supposed to be true to the source, others might say that it will lack creativity compared to David Lynch's Dune.
Feb 1, 2021 2:49 PM

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I wasn't surprised at all Paul had an affair. With the "briefs nightly moments" we got to know from the first two episodes I got the picture that he's a full-throttle, for a moment Zenith couldn't kept the rhythm but he had enough stamina to keep going and they kept doing it every night. Also afaik Paul and Lilia had some things in the past, so all I see is that she wanted to have some time with him. Questionable? Of course, he's a married man, but as we say "there has to be two to dance the Tango".
Moreover, I'm more concerned about the scene where Rudeus was playing with himself, can we remember how old is him?
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Actar said:
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Yeah, my thoughts exactly, every episode has to have sex, masturbation, and little 7 year old fantasizing. If it weren't for that I would have given this anime higher than a 6 or 7 so far


I mean... I'm not a history buff, but I think far worst things have happened during medieval times. You have to remember that this series is not set in our contemporary society with contemporary values.
I guess you're right, but this is not a history anime, it doesn't follow our history, and literally every adult recognizes the sexual behavior of Paul and Rudy as wrong
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One thing I can say this episode.. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH PAUL. Seriously duck him! I thought he´s this playboy, but loyal to his wife, but no he´s worst. I was so uncomfortable seeing the maid still living with them, I can´t even. I feel really bad for Zenith. I bet she´s crying when she´s alone. What a strong woman! And I hate that maid now too. Paul and her actions are not justifiable. Both of them can choke!

Sylphy is so cute this episode. I wonder what will be her reaction when she finds out that Rudy is away from her. I´m gonna cry. She was so precious when she was crying hearing that there´s a probability that Rudy will be away from her—and then it happened. I hope she will not have a change of heart when Rudy comes back and she is still the same girl we love.

Nice to see Roxy again. Haha! That lewd student, though. Hahahaha! Glad he got what he deserved.

Ugh. So in love with this anime. Just like AOT, every episode felt so fast.

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Feb 1, 2021 5:03 PM
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I want to like this story. There' so much potential. I can't bring myself to like Rudy though. While his actions are a bit too much on the "wtf, chill on the horny, and grooming" side of things, if I didn't know he was a 40 year old incel, I think I'd probably like him quite a bit. Then there's his new father, who seemed so promising, but has been revealed to also be a pile of shit. He's a different type of shit pile, but a pile of shit none the less. The world is interesting though. The Magic is interesting. I want to see more of this world.

For those that will tell me that Paul redeems himself, Bad people can still do good things. That doesn't mean that there's no way they can be redeemed, but it does mean that the redemption must be that much harder to achieve. I want to believe that these characters can become better people, but I'm going to need to see it to believe it. I've seen too many characters, and even real people, get forgiven before they've really learned anything. I'll keep watching for now, but I'm tempering my expectations.
Feb 1, 2021 8:05 PM

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I didn't expect Paul to turn out this kind of a person....
Rudy did well guiding the flow the conversation smoothly!!!

And Sylphy crying..... That was so moving but it's heartbreaking that Paul sent away Rudy now without even giving him a chance to say goodbye to her!!!

Roxy's new student seems even more of a pervert that Rudus XD!!!

Anyways, another interesting episode!!


Feb 1, 2021 8:33 PM
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This is the best episode so far. Sending rudy away from home gives a good turn to the series.Looking forward to the next heroine. And Ghislaine is such a beauty. Hope they adapt the whole light novel.
Feb 2, 2021 12:30 AM
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You have to hand it to Zenith for sacrificing that fury and also I'm sure many other feelings in order to keep Lilia by their side. Also Lilia normalizing being around young Rudy is so interesting to see considering she knows he's been a horny little heathen since birth. It's interesting how they're doing time skips so suddenly it seems (you kind of can't keep up until they explicitly say it), but you can't tell they've aged well. Specifically, Rudy offering to pay for Slyphiette's tuition; that's lowkey love. But also, I'm genuinely curious, I wonder if Rudy would have willingly gone away if he had put two and two that this was work that he'll get paid for. After all, no one wants to leave Slyphiette, but I'm sure he'll learn a lot.



Also, agree with many people above. Boys will be boys theme is kind of... over the top. It adds to the character development a little, but honestly more sexual tension then actual action atm.
Feb 2, 2021 1:01 AM

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well that was unexpected from paul.

so rudeus left and had no chance to say goodbye to sylphy? man i hope he would able to meet sylphiette first if he's really gone for a long time..


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So I watched the latest episode. Paul and Zenith have intercourse on regular basis in the hopes of getting a second child. Then he gets his maid pregnant. This didn't seem weird at all to me. Yeah, its not R-rated and shouldn't happen in anime. But is completely depicting reality. A man who was once embarrassed at school once because of his naked picture and all things decides never to step out of his house and living a reclusive life. (People do become hikikomori, it's not a superstition). If I was in his place I'd do that too.
Then people copulating on regular basis even when a child is around. (It doesn't usually happen in the country I live in but it is true). Other women getting aroused like that also happens. Then come to that whole pregnant thing. Paul seeing his maid, who was also her childhood classmate, as a potential sex option. It is all fairly possible.
Feb 2, 2021 3:29 AM
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Beginning of episode looked peaceful and happy for few seconds there and then suddenly the storm was approaching hihihi gosh this anime is so entertaining with that kind of surprise with Lilia xD

Zenith is scary when mad, and I like how she behaved realistically by being so mad like that instead of easily forgiving Paul like she is an angel.

Oh and very nice slap from Zenith, Paul totally deserved it.



(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥
Feb 2, 2021 4:40 AM
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Paul bad bad, cheating bad.

Interesting turn the show took just now, though! I guess Rudeus is finally leaving his home?
Feb 2, 2021 5:14 AM

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okay, i see there's a lot of new discussions here and all of it is about Paul's cheating on Zenith.
i really liked this series despite the fact that main character is a creepy pervert, i even planned to read light novel, but now, like, ehhhhh
really? ok, Paul cheated on his wife - it's an interesting plot, but then everyone is like - okay, who cares. after all we can just behave like before, lol, those two babies don't change anything.
Paul is just talking with his little son about perv stuff, Rudy, who is as a matter of fact a 40 old man is creeping out about a little girl (he can't even leave her alone).
like literally Paul is saying he's gonna cheat on Zenith again, and Rudy is just like " hehee, but dad, better tie urself down to one of them;))))" gross
and what hits me the most is that so many ppl don't see anything wrong with it
Feb 2, 2021 6:28 AM

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Never felt so uncomfortable watching an anime. I like the story, despite all the scumbag characters, but does it get better at least? >_>
Feb 2, 2021 8:33 AM
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Lmao Paul is the worst, you already have Hot Wife.. fucking Horny...
But u can't blame Lilia too, she hearing them having sex everyday...
She want the PP 😂 (she is hot as well, damn..)

But Damn Ghislaine, only cover the nipples? Interesting Design...
So this is the work for Rudeus?
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Look, it's not my intention to offend fans of any show nor the show themselves. As an anime only I obviously don't know what's next to come but this particular episode was just the worst, the absolute worst.

Feb 2, 2021 9:44 AM
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I hope make the OVA scene about how Paul bang Lilia's body. Lol. I hope soo
Feb 2, 2021 10:02 AM
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Just drop it guys
It will be worst after this
I lkve the show but for you cant tolerate eps 4
Next will more gross
Feb 2, 2021 1:40 PM

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Paul is such an useless man xD
Feb 2, 2021 2:31 PM
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Didn't think the show would get any worse. 4 episodes in, and they still haven't introduced the main story/conflict yet without accomplishing much in the meantime. At the moment, the anime is essentially a slice of life fantasy. But even in that category, it fails to be compelling for the majority of its runtime.

The whole adultery incident feels arbitrary. There was no proper build-up or foreshadowing to the incident. Although the show made Paul to be a perverted and, at times, unfaithful husband, there were no expectations that he would fuck Lilia, or that Lilia had suppressed her sexual desires.

Even if there was build-up and foreshadowing, what was the purpose? How does it affect the story (if there is any)? How does this add substance to its characters or story at all? How did the event affect Rudeus personally? How did the family's relationships change as a result? How does Paul handle himself after making a grave mistake? All the scene did was leave me wondering "why the fuck did they have to make segment on this?" The whole incident felt inconsequential. As a result, I feel the show doesn't accomplish anything. It doesn't even do any justice to the subject of adultery at all.
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People act as if the story is a contemporary drama. There is context, it is important in isekai. That's the whole point of isekai, it is different from our world.

Anime is an adaptation, lots of this context is lost. I would recommend the books, as good this adaptation is it is impossible to cram the same level of details into anime.

For example, Lilia dying never really was an option. Paul married Zenith after they slept once because she got pregnant. Paul is a womanizer but this is, like, his only flaw. He accepted responsibility immediately. He wouldn't allow to kill off his kid and Lilia.

A small quote:

"If he hadn’t intervened as a pious member of the Millis Church reduced to one wife of two, I would probably have stormed out of this house with Norn, cursing my misfortune. Or stayed behind, perhaps to take out my resentment on Lilia and Aisha."

Zenith is a fallen noble from other (far away) country, her beliefs are very different from those of Asura kingdom where the story happens. Returning home is not really an option for her. She could either forgive them or stay infinitely antagonistic to people around her.

davidyodo24 said:
Lmao Paul is the worst, you already have Hot Wife.. fucking Horny...
But u can't blame Lilia too, she hearing them having sex everyday...

So, both Paul and Lilia did the same thing but Paul is the worst and you can't blame Lilia? Even though she admitted she intentionally seduced him? Double standards. It is amusing how universally they applied. Even in anime Lilia feels comfortable kicking Paul, apparently she is completely forgiven while Paul is still very much guilty.
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AniJan said:
Didn't think the show would get any worse. 4 episodes in, and they still haven't introduced the main story/conflict yet without accomplishing much in the meantime. At the moment, the anime is essentially a slice of life fantasy. But even in that category, it fails to be compelling for the majority of its runtime.

The whole adultery incident feels arbitrary. There was no proper build-up or foreshadowing to the incident. Although the show made Paul to be a perverted and, at times, unfaithful husband, there were no expectations that he would fuck Lilia, or that Lilia had suppressed her sexual desires.

Even if there was build-up and foreshadowing, what was the purpose? How does it affect the story (if there is any)? How does this add substance to its characters or story at all? How did the event affect Rudeus personally? How did the family's relationships change as a result? How does Paul handle himself after making a grave mistake? All the scene did was leave me wondering "why the fuck did they have to make segment on this?" The whole incident felt inconsequential. As a result, I feel the show doesn't accomplish anything. It doesn't even do any justice to the subject of adultery at all.


You kinda answered your own question. The anime focuses on Rudeus getting another shot at life, not just accomplishing things in a fantasy world. That includes having loving parents, hanging with a best friend, going outside and whatnot.

For pure plot progression, this episode was still important at introducing Rudeus' new siblings. Given the show skips time often, no doubt they will play a major role down the road. It will also be the first time Rudeus is in the "wild" and will have to navigate whatever gets thrown his way.

More importantly though, Rudeus had been learning a lot about being a better person from Paul and vice-versa. But this episode exposed Paul's goofy simpleton facade, as he acts on his worst impulses out of pure lust, and Rudeus had to salvage the fucked up situation so that the Greyrats didn't fall apart.

I do agree though that the immediate outcome seems unclear, given the Greyrats seem to have changed little since the incident. I'd be disappointed if down the road the one purpose was to give Rudeus a half-sister to serve as a foil to his blood sister.

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Wow! Paul is really a scum! He has a wife and a child yet he was still seduced by their maid, Lilia. I actually thought that Lilia could be a Paul's mistress since this story is kinda messed up, and it actually happened. WTF?! lmao. There are probably lots of men, single men, in their town yet Lilia decided to seduced Paul, that's so wrong. Paul and Lilia committed a huge mistake.

Good thing Zenith believed Rudeus, for the child's sake alone. They're now kinda living like a happy family. But, Paul ks still thinking of getting to bed with Lilia. Now that Rudy is not in the house, what if Zenith is also not in the house, there's a huge chance that they will do it again since Paul is a scum. Waaa. Paul is really a strong and skillful swordsman but he's a scum. Argh. lol

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