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Aug 29, 2020 12:18 PM
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I think most people would agree that the first half of SAO was the best, then it just went south from there.

This third season started much better than the previous arcs, Kirito was learning how to use his sword in this new world, the new rules, how magic works, training, getting better, eventually conquering the most powerful foe in that world, and it wasn't outlandish.

Now this half went off the rails in every way, nothing we have seen so far explains all the weirdness we're seeing, random powers, new powers, barely any system calls, "fuck it I have wings just because" a whole lot, transformations, goddamn ghosts from other worlds are appearing and even interacting with the "real" world, and now he's doing a genkidama, like, wtf?

Everything became just random, and the power of friendship trumps all evil, wth
Aug 29, 2020 12:49 PM
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The writer completely dropped the idea of putting any effort in writing, so random things are now happening for no reason and decides to focus on the eye candy.
You can pull it off, if you have an utter Mary Sue as a MC and other Mary Sue as his love interest.
SAO fanboys will gobble it down anyways.

Aug 29, 2020 12:51 PM
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I am so confused about the latest episode. WoU Part 2 wasn't very good overall in the end. No surprise that Kirito's back.
Aug 29, 2020 12:59 PM
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Voidian said:
I think most people would agree that the first half of SAO was the best, then it just went south from there.

This third season started much better than the previous arcs, Kirito was learning how to use his sword in this new world, the new rules, how magic works, training, getting better, eventually conquering the most powerful foe in that world, and it wasn't outlandish.

Now this half went off the rails in every way, nothing we have seen so far explains all the weirdness we're seeing, random powers, new powers, barely any system calls, "fuck it I have wings just because" a whole lot, transformations, goddamn ghosts from other worlds are appearing and even interacting with the "real" world, and now he's doing a genkidama, like, wtf?

Everything became just random, and the power of friendship trumps all evil, wth



i am not good with which season is which but i am guessing S3 was the aincrad arc. I liked that1 but honestly i liked every season besides gun gale. too random for me going from fantasy theme to call of duty.
I also want to say that besides S1 which is my favorite, this alicization part2 is my second favorite.

Now for ur point of new and random powers, u probably forgot that the world seed exists so they can (and did) transfer their avatar from 1 world to a other which makes sense why they dont need system call.

Also consider that, that freaking machine is a freaking skynet which can store souls, and there is a vr world made out of it so i would not even be surprised if that GGO thing "u cant kill some1 irl from inside the vr world" was a thing here.

And honestly i agree with u here that kirito got too OP from all thoses "u can do it kirito" but hey, better 10/10 fights than just talking and repeating 'system call'
Aug 29, 2020 1:16 PM
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The Power from Garbriel and Krito comes from the Incarnation System, the ground system the Underworld is based on.
In the Novel it is better written, to the first Part of the Underworld, where Kirito was grow a flower.
A flower that cant exist in the part of the city, because all knows,. that flower cant grow there, so the flower cant grow there. this is part of the incarnation, the system based on the will power.
So Kirito grow this flower, ans said to everyone, this is a regular flower from this area, so everyone think this and the flower was able to grow, because the all think, this is an another flower.
so the will power of all changed to the fact, that the flower can grow.

This is the base part of the incarnation, if you want something and can focus in it with the will power, and the understand of the system, you can do it.
And this is like the power from Gabriel.
He Understand the fundamental system of the Underworld with the incarnation system, and based on his willpower to collect souls, to make them him, and nowone around him, than can deny it, his willpower grows in the incarnation system and release the possible power of him.

Kirito is the same, he knows the system, he knows the fundamental of the system and the parts of the seed, so with his willpower he was able to incarnate his cloak from aincard and his wings from ALO.
With his sword of the night sky, that is based on a tree, that can absorb energy from his souroundings, and the willpower of all players from ALO that want that Kirito will win and all the Underworlder that will hope that Kirito will win, the sword was able to absorb their power to create with kiritos incarnation the possible to strike back with this power.

the fact that Eugeo was able to see is, that his Light Cubes are Still active in the Light Cluster and are Part of Kirito, Alice and his Sister and Tizi and the other girl, so he will so long possible to exist in part of an incarntion, as long there are poeple how knows him and have trust in him, like he trusted Kirito.

The incarnation system is a power of willpower and the possible to overcome his angers and weaknesses to create a way, to make something possible.
This is also the same base where Accel World is based on.
I Think you need both series to understand all, because Reki was written Base information of the System in SAO and in Accel World, but later than the Anime of Accel World.

Its a Reki problem, not to write all information in both Series, and that is the base problem to understand the Underworld System.
Because i think the Underworld, is the base system for the Accel World.
Aug 29, 2020 1:36 PM
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AntnDog0101 said:
I am so confused about the latest episode. WoU Part 2 wasn't very good overall in the end. No surprise that Kirito's back.


I read the novel of Alicezation Arc before watch this and I can say that there, things are more detailed and you can understand more easy I've saw both perpectives and the anime version can really become a bit confuse for some people. I'm glad that I read the novel last year.
Aug 29, 2020 1:58 PM
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The studio doesn't respect the source material and only adapts the events. It disregards relevant explanations and characterisations that come with it. I would be surprised if any anime watcher that hasn't read the source material can understand everything that happened in this arc. Guess A1 is gonna print money no matter how they adapt SAO...
Aug 29, 2020 2:00 PM
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Thinking the same thing just when i saw this abomination of an episode. Holy fuck that was bad.
Aug 29, 2020 2:05 PM
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This video pretty much explains why XD.
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Aug 29, 2020 2:06 PM

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The power of imagination defies all logic in this show


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Aug 29, 2020 2:11 PM
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From how I see with the last scene from the latest ep and this talk about Underworld (virtual world) and the time that the mc will be spending his time with her....

The one thing that pop up to me immediately is the concept of their previous work, Accel World.

Time stop for everyone but people still experiencing life during that pause until the time resume. And in this case, we're seeing it here with SAO. The MCs probably just gonna wake up around the same time as the others but with the accumulation of XXX years.
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Aug 29, 2020 2:33 PM

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xkazutox said:

The one thing that pop up to me immediately is the concept of their previous work, Accel World.


Even the incarnation system thing was also present in accel world
This anime shit is addictive
Aug 29, 2020 2:33 PM

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GeneralSG1 said:

The incarnation system is a power of willpower and the possible to overcome his angers and weaknesses to create a way, to make something possible.


So it's perfect environment for Kirito asspulls :)
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Aug 29, 2020 2:51 PM

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Chrome_Falcon said:
The studio doesn't respect the source material and only adapts the events. It disregards relevant explanations and characterisations that come with it. I would be surprised if any anime watcher that hasn't read the source material can understand everything that happened in this arc. Guess A1 is gonna print money no matter how they adapt SAO...


Lmao, ok listen, even if the LN is more detailed and explains some stuff more in-depth than the anime that would simply make it... mediocre and not a complete dumpster fire like the current state of the anime.
Aug 29, 2020 3:43 PM
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The first half of Underworld is good. There is no annoying harem, Kirito and Eugeo share the spotlight which also limits Kirito's god moments. Also, Kirito is learning how Underworld works so he isnt overpowered. The antagonist are also the best of SAO, even if they end up becoming the good guys later on (similar to Bleach and the Soul Society).

War of Underworld is where the quality starts to drop. At first it still is okay, the part 1 at least. The only bad side to it is that the monster villains were super meh. Once Asuna enters the Undeworld is when the quality severely drops. Adding the koreans, chineses and whatever was stupid, Yui hacking the game to include the japaneses was stupid, the nakama power in most fights was stupid, and finally you have Kirito going in super ultra god mode to save the day.

I knew what was coming in WoU Part 2, so honestly, i was just expecting the opening song (Sao has good openings) and the fight scenes cause at least A-1 puts money there.
Aug 29, 2020 4:20 PM
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Glad I'm not the only one. I'm still kinda enjoying this season but I feel like the 1st part of War of Underworld is the peak of Alicization. It's been downhill since. This season has been nothing but asspulls and I seriously hate how everyone, even Alice, is getting sidelined for Kirito.

During Alicization, I enjoyed watching Kirito and Eugeo interacting and working together and the best part was Kirito wasn't even overpowered. He seemed more human during that season and not just some godlike MC with OP abilities. It was nice to see Kirito having a male friend and a sidekick because it was such a breath of fresh air. Eugeo is also a well written character and it's sad that the author had to kill him off so early. The 1st part of WoU sidelined Kirito and made Alice the MC of that season. WoU Part 1 ended up being the best season of SAO for me because of how good Alice's character is and it shows that Reki can actually write good female characters that isn't just pure fanservice. The 2nd half of WoU Part 1 also reminded me of Avengers: End Game, which is one of my favourite movies of all time.

This season so far has been.......ok. I don't hate it but man, it's sad that they'll end Alicization this way. It started off really strong, with WoU Part 1 being the best season of SAO, only to end it in an underwhelming manner.
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Aug 29, 2020 5:08 PM

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honestly WoU pt.2 feels like some giant wish fulfilment power fantasy lol. Especially eps 5-6-7
Aug 29, 2020 5:17 PM
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All the stuff you don't understand like the random powers and transformations are the results of the new system incarnation which is super important to this arc and has actual scientific explanation behind it. But the anime didn't bother to explain the full details behind it and only skimmed through the basic concepts.

Even Reddit posts explain the concepts 10 times better than the anime and this user does an absolute brilliant job doing it while giving additional information in the comments. You can check it out here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/iekoy8/sword_art_online_alicization_explaining_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This video does the same and I encourage everyone to watch it:
https://youtu.be/2iUPo275TI4
Aug 29, 2020 5:18 PM

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in the last episode we literally could visualize the power of friendship flowing to kirito lol
Aug 29, 2020 5:19 PM

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your signature reminded me I have to watch kanon and air.
I'm guessing those are good and recomndable series???
Aug 29, 2020 6:49 PM

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GarupaKyojin said:
All the stuff you don't understand like the random powers and transformations are the results of the new system incarnation which is super important to this arc and has actual scientific explanation behind it. But the anime didn't bother to explain the full details behind it and only skimmed through the basic concepts.

Even Reddit posts explain the concepts 10 times better than the anime and this user does an absolute brilliant job doing it while giving additional information in the comments. You can check it out here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/iekoy8/sword_art_online_alicization_explaining_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This video does the same and I encourage everyone to watch it:
https://youtu.be/2iUPo275TI4

man thanks a lot for that
Aug 29, 2020 8:55 PM

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Voidian said:
I think most people would agree that the first half of SAO was the best, then it just went south from there.

This third season started much better than the previous arcs, Kirito was learning how to use his sword in this new world, the new rules, how magic works, training, getting better, eventually conquering the most powerful foe in that world, and it wasn't outlandish.

Now this half went off the rails in every way, nothing we have seen so far explains all the weirdness we're seeing, random powers, new powers, barely any system calls, "fuck it I have wings just because" a whole lot, transformations, goddamn ghosts from other worlds are appearing and even interacting with the "real" world, and now he's doing a genkidama, like, wtf?

Everything became just random, and the power of friendship trumps all evil, wth


A short explanation to all of this would be the following:

They are inside a virtual world created by a quantum computer. Since the whole thing operates by using the human souls (and those souls are interconnected with each other), it's basically like a lucid dream. Once you're aware you can warp reality AND when you feel confident about it - you're free to fuck shit up effortlessly, especially when you've got a lot of System Authority (Kirito got +EXP boost after killing off the Administrator; don't forget that she was a hugely over-leveled "god" of this world).

Anime does a pretty bad job explaining it. They did mention "power of imagination" at some point - but nobody took that seriously, it seems.
Aug 29, 2020 10:24 PM
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It's such a shame honestly, I really enjoyed Alicization and WoU Part 1 but this is just... ok. To be clear, I did love the past few episodes but this one was just underwhelming, even with the spectacular animation. I understand the incarnation system but that doesn't make the fight from the last episode any less anti-climatic.

I was a huge fan of all the fights that happened so far in Alicization but Kirito vs Subtilizer is underwhelming, all the build up that led to the fight, hyping the return of Vectra, only to deliver a fight that is a generic power clash to see who has the biggest beam laser of death? Hell, I was thinking how OP Subtilizer was going to be because Vassago wiped the floor with everyone but, while Subtilizer was indeed OP, the fight was over in a minute.

I'm all down for Kirito throwing a genki dama at Subtilizer but at least give us a build up first, give us a fight that has both of the characters at their best using every technique they know, give us what Alicization truly is. I was hoping for Subtilizer to use what he learned from being the best on GGO, sniper tactics, melee combat and then evolve into the monster we know as Vectra. What we were given was him becoming a monster in 10 minutes and was barely a threat because from the moment that Kirito had Eugeo flashbacks, we already knew exactly how everything would end.

I really hope the next episodes suprises me a lot and that the conclusion for Alicization is great. For now I'm just here sad because I really wanted SAO Alicization to be spectacular, to be able to say that it was one of the best animes from the season, but once again as usual for SAO, it trippled right at the end of an arc.
Aug 30, 2020 12:03 AM

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A bad adaptation ruins everything. Well at least the animation is good. Btw you should really read the reddit post someone shared. It explains everything.
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Aug 30, 2020 12:25 AM
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Kirito got his stand.....ใ€ŽE U G E Oใ€,deal with it.

Just watch this show without turning your brain on and accept those asspulls the show throw, it works.



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Aug 30, 2020 3:19 PM
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As a novel reader I dont like volumes 17-18 very much and some of the reasons were given by other users here (especially the use of Alice as a character in this last half).
Also the anime has never been a good adaptation because it has always had the flaw of cutting off characterization or explanations necessary to understand the world.


Still,It makes me laugh that they had the time to make the anime more gore, violent and beautiful aesthetically but when it comes to the script there is not time amd we have to cut off things...But this problem lies in the fact that the anime doesnt have a main writer but a set of writers, giving a lot of inconsistency.


Anyway I think the first part of alicization (aka vol 9 to 14) is the best part of the Saga.
Too bad that the Anime didn't have the right resources for a better first part quality-wise.
Aug 30, 2020 4:04 PM
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Voidian said:
I think most people would agree that the first half of SAO was the best, then it just went south from there.

This third season started much better than the previous arcs, Kirito was learning how to use his sword in this new world, the new rules, how magic works, training, getting better, eventually conquering the most powerful foe in that world, and it wasn't outlandish.

Now this half went off the rails in every way, nothing we have seen so far explains all the weirdness we're seeing, random powers, new powers, barely any system calls, "fuck it I have wings just because" a whole lot, transformations, goddamn ghosts from other worlds are appearing and even interacting with the "real" world, and now he's doing a genkidama, like, wtf?

Everything became just random, and the power of friendship trumps all evil, wth


My dude, you are so right. The first half of this season 3 was good and now everything is ruined.
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GarupaKyojin said:
All the stuff you don't understand like the random powers and transformations are the results of the new system incarnation which is super important to this arc and has actual scientific explanation behind it. But the anime didn't bother to explain the full details behind it and only skimmed through the basic concepts.

Even Reddit posts explain the concepts 10 times better than the anime and this user does an absolute brilliant job doing it while giving additional information in the comments. You can check it out here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/iekoy8/sword_art_online_alicization_explaining_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This video does the same and I encourage everyone to watch it:
https://youtu.be/2iUPo275TI4
Thanks this was a huge help. Guess they needed more episodes to explain it well

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