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| Does anybody know how this show is doing in Japan? There's more than enough content for a second season but I feel the chances of this getting one is low. |
| This episode was pretty good, much better than the last one! Thorfinn's done pretty much nothing since the start of the series but be a whiny emo loser. He finally got a good beat-down. Askalaad's backstory was finally revealed in more detail. Fucking brutal death scene. Next week is the penultimate episode, I wonder what'll happen. |
| I'll give this show a lot of credit for making it seem as if this duel would be the end for one of these two characters, only for it to go much the same as usual: Thorfinn loses his temper to Askeladd's taunts and it's an easy victory for the more experienced warrior. However, with everything else that happened here, this beating feels a lot more climactic and final, as if Askeladd isn't even going to humour Thorfinn's pointless efforts anymore; he's put up with it for ten years and there's been no real development from Thorfinn, so it must all feel pointless for Askeladd. Even more so when Thorfinn can't see what's happening even when Askeladd all but spells it out for him. And while Askeladd's backstory is interesting in itself, I'm much more interested in Thorfinn at this stage, with him having been in the background for so long. He's not developed in any way for ages, but this feels like a watershed moment for him: the rage that has driven him so far is still there, but the way he slumps in defeat really feels like he finally understands how futile his actions have been so far. But what does he do now? That's what I'm interested in. |
| *continues trying to hate Asekladd* There are no enemies, no good or evil, just all depends on the side you're on. Asekladd is just Thorfinn with another set of circumstances. They have a symbiotic relationship with each other. Thorfinn's scream at the end.. gut wrenching. Two more eps to go, it'll be interesting to see if Farmland Saga is as well received in the west as this is, the action really stops this season, instead, it becomes a philosophical, moral and spiritual conflict. Well done WIT for adapting what was previously thought to be unadaptable. |
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| Princess Canute dyed her hair pink. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Oh wow, this series is unbelievable! It's sad the series will be over soon, it had to be one of the best series I watched this year. |
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GreenEmu said: Does anybody know how this show is doing in Japan? There's more than enough content for a second season but I feel the chances of this getting one is low. It doesn't really matter I think, mostly because amazon is funding it at least partially, they are going big with their shit (1 billion dollar LOTR series PLUS next gen MMORPG based on LOTR at the same time). Amazon will definitely not discontinue a critically acclaimed story and leave it unfinished, especially at times that are critical for their netflix/disney plus competitor service to rise above them. |
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operationvalkyri said: I have to be honest; I teared up at the end. Thorfinn crying for the waste of his 10 years is just too much. Same, Everyone here is talking about Askeladd in this episode but ignoring Thorfinn, I'm so sad for him tbh. 10 years of pain and suffer, 10 years of abandoning your humane side & emotions, and by the end, the gain is 0. I wonder what the ending of this anime will be like. |
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| This was my favorite episode so far. The duel was pretty quick, but the backstory was very entertaining. I would give this episode a 5/5. |
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| So that's why Askeladd tries to take Thorfinn's duels seriously. He went through some similar shit. That flashback was nice, and the speech he delivered in the end really was some salt to Thorfinn's wounds. |
GreenEmu said: Does anybody know how this show is doing in Japan? There's more than enough content for a second season but I feel the chances of this getting one is low. The BD box volume 1 wll be on sale around the end of this month, to be frank, the BD projection number is abysmally low, around 400-600 at best. The good news? It is very well received both East and West, NHK's rating is around 2%, pretty great for a late-night series and I don't have to mention how great AMAZON users rate this series. Another factor is, Bilibili (Mainland China's crunchyroll) heavily invested this series (directly to Twin Engine in terms of funds) in order to promote its official manga simulcasting service (with Vinland Saga being one of its heavy hitters and it's doing VERY well), will this site continue to do the same? A huge if since they already achieved their goal. We see how far crunchyroll has influenced Shield Hero's success to the point 2 additional seasons were announced, hopefully same would happen to this one as well. The rest is up to Production IG, WIT (they are both in production committee) and Kodansha |
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Waschmaschine369 said: they're not doing a goob job with original content in some cases. like in episode 10 where we got Thorfinn's dream about his father, it was hammered down already, should've kept the scene where Thorfinn walks away from a girl getting raped to properly establish his coldheartedness and disgusting side, contrasted with his longing for a paradise (vinland). what did the dream do...? we already had thorfinn meeting leif last episode, which gave the viewer a moment to reflect on his gruesome journey so far, doing this flashback again wasn't that bad and worked well given the context of the duel, but it still comes of as spoonfeeding I have to agree with some people that this anime adaptation is weirdly inconsistent in certain aspects, still fucking amazing though In this episode I think it was simply a case of filling time, there wasn't enough material in the chapter itself to fill an episode and have a natural end point. This is why they showed Bjorn's death scene again almost in its entirety before the opening to stretch it out to the full runtime. It is frustrating that sometimes memorable parts from the manga get left out whilst there are also anime original scenes finding their way in but a lot of the time it's simply a matter of trying to fit the TV episode format. |
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| What a great episode!! This is one of the best backstory-themed episodes I've ever seen. This show is cementing itself as one of this year's greatest shows and a potential modern classic |
| lol people getting triggered by the Naruto user again just use talk no jutsu on him lol you know he cannot be banned as long as he still civil with his opinions SmilingBeginner said: GreenEmu said: Does anybody know how this show is doing in Japan? There's more than enough content for a second season but I feel the chances of this getting one is low. The BD box volume 1 wll be on sale around the end of this month, to be frank, the BD projection number is abysmally low, around 400-600 at best. The good news? It is very well received both East and West, NHK's rating is around 2%, pretty great for a late-night series and I don't have to mention how great AMAZON users rate this series. Another factor is, Bilibili (Mainland China's crunchyroll) heavily invested this series (directly to Twin Engine in terms of funds) in order to promote its official manga simulcasting service (with Vinland Saga being one of its heavy hitters and it's doing VERY well), will this site continue to do the same? A huge if since they already achieved their goal. We see how far crunchyroll has influenced Shield Hero's success to the point 2 additional seasons were announced, hopefully same would happen to this one as well. The rest is up to Production IG, WIT (they are both in production committee) and Kodansha how about the manga sales? did it have any manga boost sales? and ye Dr Stone is the same it rely on international streaming profit since its disc sales and manga sales are bad or not good |
| This is why slow-burn stories matter. Had this backstory been told at the start of the series it wouldn't be even close to being this impactful. Knowing Askeladd and what he did makes his past even more intriguing at this point in the story, specially after the duel. And I love the mood of the episode. It felt so heavy and melancholic. |
| is nice eppisode. cool contrast between askeladd and thorfinn askeladd going through with killing people when they're off-guard compared w/ thorfinn who insists on killing via 1v1 duel & holding back when he thought askeladd was asleep. |
| There's something so horribly tragic that in all their time together, Askeladd has pretty much become Thorfinn's father at this point. Try as he might he actually cares for the boy now & worries that his quest for vengeance will leave him with nothing once he eventually dies. |
| I used to be a watchmaker. |
| Thorfinn is pure assbutter |
| My god Askeladd is such a good character. Best part about this show IMO |
  Katsura janai, Zura da |
| To Thorfinn: When will you learn? When are you going to learn? Battles/duels are won by strategies, not by pure emotions. I'll have to admit, every duel with Askeladd is always one-sided. It makes me feel unsympathetic to Thorfinn. Askeladd is right, he doesn't learn because he's an idiot. That was a painful backstory on Askeladd. He knows how to control his emotions during his younger days. Even though he's the villain in this anime, he's one empathetic character. For crying out loud Thorfinn, learn. |
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| - how to kill someone you hate? answer is don't get emotional. - askeladd story was really emotional. |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
| I loved more about Askeladd and his backstory. Thorfinn's IQ drops dramatically whenever it involves Askeladd and revenge. |
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| Askeladd's past is amazing. not ready for the guy Thorfinn's crying was unintentionally hilarious tho |
RealTheAbsurdist said: -Canute's sudden change in personality (even if his change in idealogy was hinted at prior, there's a difference between personality and beliefs). You're implying that you agree, however you love the manga. I'm a little confused. |
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| Absolute MADLAD!!! SmilingBeginner said: Couldn't put it better myself!thebrentinator24 said: Damn what an episode. Even at a young age Askeladd's opponents were playing checkers while he was playing fuckin 80-dimensional chess. His patience and planning skills are top notch. Phenomenal backstory for such an amazing character. And of course Thorfinn once again got his ass whooped. Rushing in without a plan, yelling like a shounen protagonist will get you nowhere against a seasoned vet. I suppose Askeladd sees his young self in Thorfinn but unlike Askeladd, Thorfinn isn't learning from his mistakes to find a successful way to kill Askeladd. It's the same shit over and over and I'm certain Askeladd is pissed off and over it at this point. Hence, why we saw him be a complete savage toward Thorfinn. And Thorkell calling all of that pathetic was the cherry on top that summed it up perfectly. Great stuff. And lol at the troll above....still here after 22 episodes nitpicking at the littlest things to complain about. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess xD Another thing I like Askeladd is, while he hates Danes and treat them like manipulatable puppets, he did tried to evoke something from Thorfinn, more precisely, a sense of self-purpose byond revenge. Askeladd completed the revenge, yet afterwards he just trapped himself in the same vicious cycle that his father committed, eventually became the exact same type of people he despised while he was still young. If Thorfinn still cannot grow himself out of this mess, then Askeladd has no problem to continue to treat him like a beast, instead of a "true warrior". I love this kind of multi-layered character writing that goes beyond of good vs evil, or evil for the sake being evil. Maybe just like Askeladd said, we are all slaves to to something, but it would be a great start to change if we realized that fact ourselves first. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
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