Domestic na Kanojo Chapter 253 Discussion

Nov 26, 2019 9:01 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Incredibly cute scene at the airport. And very sad on the shore. Although I am happy for Natsuo and Rui, I am sorry for Hina. She need to move forward.
P.S. Togen's gun is ready to shoot.

Akagi-kunNov 26, 2019 9:04 AM

Nov 26, 2019 9:39 AM

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Akagi-kun said:
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Incredibly cute scene at the airport. And very sad on the shore. Although I am happy for Natsuo and Rui, I am sorry for Hina. She need to move forward.
P.S. Togen's gun is ready to shoot.

Wow, thanks for the fast news, now to find where to see this. Thanks again for the update.

And a gun? My prediction came true? This isn’t something that can end in three chapters

Honestly, why in each chapter the author is making things more miserable for Hina?

greed2Nov 26, 2019 10:12 AM

Nov 26, 2019 10:50 AM

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greed2 said:

And a gun?

I mean this - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
Togen is very bad, he is dying.

Nov 26, 2019 12:16 PM

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Togen is very bad, he is dying.

Thanks, the author obviously needs another volume to cover this. I thought the man had surgery. What happened? Surgery failed? Maybe this will explain how Natsuo writes again, death of his mentor.

Anyway, with another volume added, we could see Hina being given proper closure. Again, I honestly HATE Natsuo for his initial persistence with Hina that led to her going through her current emotional pain; Hina rejected Natsuo before and the boy should have stopped there. That character from Jitsu wa Watashi wa was much more consistent when choosing his love interests; he was rejected from one girl, and decided to no longer pursue her, then he consistently went after another girl.

Well, since "love drama" is the main theme of this manga, it makes sense for each of those girls to go through such emotional hardships. But I still feel it is unnecessary. In a manga called Game obu Familia - Family Senki, there is one character I know that may be in a similar basic family situation to Natsuo but because the manga's main theme wasn't "love drama" then he didn't have to make the girls, that are close to him, go through the same emotional pain. If the theme was "love comedy" then maybe this manga would have a similar situation to The Story of an Onee-San Who Wants to Keep a High School Boy where the main character had valid reasons to only love his Onee-san and didn't have to make too much indecisive decisions the same way Natsuo is doing.

One manga, iron knight, is another consistent one I can think of

greed2Dec 3, 2019 9:53 AM

Nov 26, 2019 12:40 PM

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greed2 said:
I thought the man had surgery. What happened? Surgery failed? Maybe this will explain how Natsuo writes again, death of his mentor.

Togen has a cancer, I think. About the link for his death and Natsuo's writer block, many people think the same. Me too.

Nov 26, 2019 4:11 PM

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greed2 said:

Akagi-kun said:

Togen is very bad, he is dying.

Thanks, the author obviously needs another volume to cover this. I thought the man had surgery. What happened? Surgery failed? Maybe this will explain how Natsuo writes again, death of his mentor.

Anyway, with another volume added, we could see Hina being given proper closure. Again, I honestly HATE Natsuo for his initial persistence with Hina that led to her going through her current emotional pain; Hina rejected Natsuo before and the boy should have stopped there. That character from Jitsu wa Watashi wa was much more consistent when choosing his love interests; he was rejected from one girl, and decided to no longer pursue her, then he consistently went after another girl.

Well, since "love drama" is the main theme of this manga, it makes sense for each of those girls to go through such emotional hardships. But I still feel it is unnecessary. In a manga called Game obu Familia - Family Senki, there is one character I know that may be in a similar basic family situation to Natsuo but because the manga's main theme wasn't "love drama" then he didn't have to make the girls, that are close to him, go through the same emotional pain.

Hina has been done dirty in this series, plain and simple. She kept getting cockblocked, circumstances always against her, story would always bend in favor of Rui, author never gave her any kind of development. Any kind of conclusion for Hina won’t feel natural whatsoever. Our girl has suffered the most at the expense of others happiness, embodies the definition of love more than anyone in this manga, yet has been miserable since basically chapter 63.

Nov 26, 2019 5:58 PM

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I feel bad for Hina but at this point I like Rui so much more. The scene in the airport was great. I wish he could have told Hina about him and Rui without being interrupted so she could maybe come to terms with it. Togen on his deathbed looked so sad.

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Nov 26, 2019 9:14 PM

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Looks like we're in route 2B now.

madoy said:

1 - rui gets back her taste and deals with Ben's bullying. Ben gets exposed/expelled

route 2A
- they back to japan together and find out sensei is in bad health state / dead[*].
- Rui comforts him

route 2B( overcomplicated)
- natso backs to japan first, face the sensei drama alone, he's in bad mental state, hina tries to comfort him but that doesn't help
- rui backs after hina's call, get's him back in shape.

3 - the last Tougen's novel brings Natsuo back to writing
4 - family dinner, christmas? [Rui x Natsuo], [Hina x Shuu],
some scene with friends at the "wish bell shrine". Al with his old gf, other couples.

BUT if we're gonna get Vol.27 (chapters 256-265). Rui's gonna die in a plane crash. I'm calling it now.

Nov 27, 2019 5:49 AM

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OGAnime said:

greed2 said:

Thanks, the author obviously needs another volume to cover this. I thought the man had surgery. What happened? Surgery failed? Maybe this will explain how Natsuo writes again, death of his mentor.

Anyway, with another volume added, we could see Hina being given proper closure. Again, I honestly HATE Natsuo for his initial persistence with Hina that led to her going through her current emotional pain; Hina rejected Natsuo before and the boy should have stopped there. That character from Jitsu wa Watashi wa was much more consistent when choosing his love interests; he was rejected from one girl, and decided to no longer pursue her, then he consistently went after another girl.

Well, since "love drama" is the main theme of this manga, it makes sense for each of those girls to go through such emotional hardships. But I still feel it is unnecessary. In a manga called Game obu Familia - Family Senki, there is one character I know that may be in a similar basic family situation to Natsuo but because the manga's main theme wasn't "love drama" then he didn't have to make the girls, that are close to him, go through the same emotional pain.

Hina has been done dirty in this series, plain and simple. She kept getting cockblocked, circumstances always against her, story would always bend in favor of Rui, author never gave her any kind of development. Any kind of conclusion for Hina won’t feel natural whatsoever. Our girl has suffered the most at the expense of others happiness, embodies the definition of love more than anyone in this manga, yet has been miserable since basically chapter 63.

I don't agree. Hina had a chance to make it work with Natsuo, but she chose to run away instead. Then when he found her, she rejected him a second time. Then when Rui broke up with him, she had a chance to pursue him, but chose to be a 'supportive sister' instead. She had 3 chances and blew them all. I don't really feel that bad for her.

Nov 27, 2019 5:57 AM

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hugedata said:

OGAnime said:

Hina has been done dirty in this series, plain and simple. She kept getting cockblocked, circumstances always against her, story would always bend in favor of Rui, author never gave her any kind of development. Any kind of conclusion for Hina won’t feel natural whatsoever. Our girl has suffered the most at the expense of others happiness, embodies the definition of love more than anyone in this manga, yet has been miserable since basically chapter 63.

I don't agree. Hina had a chance to make it work with Natsuo, but she chose to run away instead. Then when he found her, she rejected him a second time. Then when Rui broke up with him, she had a chance to pursue him, but chose to be a 'supportive sister' instead. She had 3 chances and blew them all. I don't really feel that bad for her.

The first break up was reasonable, since it was for Natsuo. The second one where she rejects him is her own fault which I will agree. The third one, Hina held back for Rui and the moment she finally decides not to anymore and be honest, the story bends itself and gives Natsuo and ultimatum that he must decide on the spot (which was to help Rui). He also didn’t hear about Hina’s feelings from Hina but rather from Shuu. When he and Rui broke up, no one was on his ass trying to make him move on in comparison with Hinaz Also when Hina gave Natsuo his tie and he finally started to look at her as a woman, guess who comes to cockblock? Rui

Story has always favored Rui and kicked Hina to the side post break up

Nov 27, 2019 7:54 AM

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The first break up was reasonable, since it was for Natsuo. The second one where she rejects him is her own fault which I will agree. The third one, Hina held back for Rui and the moment she finally decides not to anymore and be honest, the story bends itself and gives Natsuo and ultimatum that he must decide on the spot (which was to help Rui). He also didn’t hear about Hina’s feelings from Hina but rather from Shuu. When he and Rui broke up, no one was on his ass trying to make him move on in comparison with Hinaz Also when Hina gave Natsuo his tie and he finally started to look at her as a woman, guess who comes to cockblock? Rui

Story has always favored Rui and kicked Hina to the side post break up

Either way, It is suffering to watch Hina in this chapter. She is a nice girl, and Hina was the one that saved Natsuo's Notebook-kun from being disposed of. I had thought Hina would help Natsuo write but maybe it is really the mentor.

On the side note, I thought Nasuo had a WEEK with Rui, freaking WEEK where Rui will talk about Natsuo in what she knows about Hina. Sigh. Forget it. Author's choice. But Glad Hina didn't get drunk and later raped after leaving the bar. But I am assuming we won't be hearing from the racist cook again, I was actually expecting him to get a gun to shoot Natsuo. Maybe Rui's co-worker will get shot.

Anyway, Natsuo and Hina are back together but mainly as a little brother and big sister. I am not sure what the author's reason for stretching this manga. But maybe Natsuo will help give Hina proper closure. Though this manga is going have to stretch a bit. There is no way the mentor's death, funeral, and impactful aftermath can be covered in a couple of chapters.

greed2Nov 27, 2019 7:58 AM

Nov 27, 2019 8:02 AM

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I don't agree. Hina had a chance to make it work with Natsuo, but she chose to run away instead. Then when he found her, she rejected him a second time. Then when Rui broke up with him, she had a chance to pursue him, but chose to be a 'supportive sister' instead. She had 3 chances and blew them all.

I totally agree.
She did what she did with her own hands.

greed2 said:
Though this manga is going have to stretch a bit. There is no way the mentor's death, funeral, and impactful aftermath can be covered in a couple of chapters.

Yeah, I already talked about that I feel it will be at least 27th volumes or even more.
27 - most likely. For 2 chapters, which remained until the end of 26 volume, the ending cannot be done.

Nov 27, 2019 8:22 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Incredibly cute scene at the airport. And very sad on the shore. Although I am happy for Natsuo and Rui, I am sorry for Hina. She need to move forward.
P.S. Togen's gun is ready to shoot.

. Is it serious that no one realizes that Natsuo will break up with hina? Why do you think the author is putting off this manga? Togen will probably die and who will be left to comfort him? Hina, this time the story will favor Hina and she'll probably confess, maybe confusing the natsuo or not ... I see no other reason to postpone the end of this manga.

Nov 27, 2019 9:16 AM

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Yeah. Hina basically dug her own grave. She had many times to tell Natsuo about her feelings but he had to hear it from Shuu. How do you think that makes Natsuo feel?

Hina is now suffering for her own mistakes and it sucks but oh well.

This Togen sense arc will give Natsuo his will back, Hina giving him his notebook back along with a confession and she will get rejected. I'm still hoping for some closure for Hina and for her to be happy.

Even though I love Rui more.

I'm just going to ignore the one foolish comment about Rui in this thread because it's ridiculous.

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Nov 27, 2019 2:33 PM

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That shore scene made my heart ache so freaking much... I may have shred a tear or two lmao. Let's see how Natsuo deals with Togen sensei's death and if that makes him "take his place" and go back to being an author.

Nov 27, 2019 2:34 PM

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Yeah. Hina basically dug her own grave. She had many times to tell Natsuo about her feelings but he had to hear it from Shuu. How do you think that makes Natsuo feel?

Hina is now suffering for her own mistakes and it sucks but oh well.

This Togen sense arc will give Natsuo his will back, Hina giving him his notebook back along with a confession and she will get rejected. I'm still hoping for some closure for Hina and for her to be happy.

Even though I love Rui more.

I'm just going to ignore the one foolish comment about Rui in this thread because it's ridiculous.

It is going to hurt to see Hina get rejected. But it is not like they are going to never see each other again. They can still live together, as family. But for some reason a part of me can’t like Rui since Rui never told Natsuo that Hina loved him sooner until Shu told Natsuo. Well, maybe it is for the best. Natsuo wanted to forget about Hina, for Hina’s sake. Now Natsuo needs to help Hina move on and find closure; the little bro needs to think of a way to get Hina back with Shu, he has some responsibility to do so to be honest.

Honestly, if this is Re:Creators, a part of me would like to see Natsuo read his own manga. It hurts to see Hina go through such emotional pain. So imagine how Natsuo, or maybe even Rui, would feel if he read his own manga when they see what Hina has to go through. On a funny note, if such a predicament did happen, I would have wanted Natsuo to compare himself to other outside anime/manga characters like those simple minded characters that I mentioned in the past, I think the main character from Psyren would give Natsuo a headlock for being a semi-lousy little brother.

If this was Kanojo ga Iru no ni, Betsu no Onnanoko ni Kokuhaku Sareta then choosing a girl wouldn’t be so serious

greed2Dec 3, 2019 9:56 AM

Nov 27, 2019 4:37 PM

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Oh damn poor sensei I completely forgot what happened to him, maybe in the end it's neither Hina nor Rui that helps Natsuo get back to writing but sensei's death

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Nov 27, 2019 4:57 PM

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After Natsuo spent a week in New York, comforting Rui, she still needs time?

Natsuo has made his decision, any going back on it now would make him look like a lamer character than he already is.

There's no doubt that Hina knows what is coming and maybe the sad state that the mentor is in will help her take her mind off her failed relationship with Natsuo. She has been the loser in this story, Natsuo's behaviour in pursuing her endlessly has caused her life to be torn apart. He should have left her alone.

Nov 27, 2019 6:29 PM

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OGAnime said:

hugedata said:

I don't agree. Hina had a chance to make it work with Natsuo, but she chose to run away instead. Then when he found her, she rejected him a second time. Then when Rui broke up with him, she had a chance to pursue him, but chose to be a 'supportive sister' instead. She had 3 chances and blew them all. I don't really feel that bad for her.

The first break up was reasonable, since it was for Natsuo. The second one where she rejects him is her own fault which I will agree. The third one, Hina held back for Rui and the moment she finally decides not to anymore and be honest, the story bends itself and gives Natsuo and ultimatum that he must decide on the spot (which was to help Rui). He also didn’t hear about Hina’s feelings from Hina but rather from Shuu. When he and Rui broke up, no one was on his ass trying to make him move on in comparison with Hinaz Also when Hina gave Natsuo his tie and he finally started to look at her as a woman, guess who comes to cockblock? Rui

Story has always favored Rui and kicked Hina to the side post break up

there is still hope where there is smoke there is fire Hina still doesnt have closure which means it isnt over Hina X Nat in in a decline but we have faith

Nov 27, 2019 6:37 PM

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Im team NAT X HINA until the end the way i see it its not over until its over this manga has left too many loopholes in Rui X Nat relationship Rui is clearly best girl i like her but just like in Ichigo 100% one major event can change how the story ends and best girl doesn't always win.

Nov 27, 2019 8:04 PM

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Akagi-kun said:

greed2 said:
I thought the man had surgery. What happened? Surgery failed? Maybe this will explain how Natsuo writes again, death of his mentor.

Togen has a cancer, I think. About the link for his death and Natsuo's writer block, many people think the same. Me too.

Dumb question, has Tougan met Hina? Refresh my memory if he did met Hina. If so, I am somewhat expecting Tougan to say "Hina, I am leaving Natsuo's future in your care."

dstrikerx said:
Im team NAT X HINA until the end the way i see it its not over until its over this manga has left too many loopholes in Rui X Nat relationship Rui is clearly best girl i like her but just like in Ichigo 100% one major event can change how the story ends and best girl doesn't always win.

There has to be a reason why the author keeps ending things "half-way." where Rui says "I will be the one to propose" or where Natsuo gets interrupted when he was about to tell Hina about his relationship with Rui.

Nov 27, 2019 8:52 PM

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The scene with Nat and Rui is incredibly cute and bring smile to my face, so widely... Yet the beach scene with Hina is so sad, it almost brought tears in my eyes.
I can feel that domekano's end is very near. I've read GE several times, and i've been a Sasuga Kei's fan for a long time, so please give us a happy ending, cause this has been a great series with one hell of a ride (all its ups and downs).
Please give one a flawless relationship and the other a closure so we can look back to domekano with smiles, in the future...

Nov 28, 2019 9:38 AM

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Just when he wants to commit to Rui she asks him to wait. Hina refuses to give up and as he is telling her that she is just a sister his mentor is dying Leaving us dangling on the edge of the cliff

Nov 28, 2019 11:24 PM

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greed2 said:

Dumb question, has Tougan met Hina? Refresh my memory if he did met Hina.

Yes, about ten chapters back.

Nov 29, 2019 4:12 AM

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eventual rejection

Eventual? Chapters 248-252 can't be undone. Rui and Natsuo are back together. Unspoken rejection already happened. Hina knows that. Her fans know that.

Jan 20, 2020 8:48 PM

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greed2 said:

Hina has been done dirty in this series, plain and simple. She kept getting cockblocked, circumstances always against her, story would always bend in favor of Rui, author never gave her any kind of development. Any kind of conclusion for Hina won’t feel natural whatsoever. Our girl has suffered the most at the expense of others happiness, embodies the definition of love more than anyone in this manga, yet has been miserable since basically chapter 63.

Exactly my thoughts. She has suffered the most out of everyone, in constant forced denial of her own love because of guilt, societal judgement, and love for her sister. While I don't really agree on saying the author doesn't give her development, my heart keeps breaking more and more the more I go with this series, seeing Hina like that. Your final sentence is so on point.

"Our girl has suffered the most at the expense of others happiness, embodies the definition of love more than anyone in this manga, yet has been miserable since basically chapter 63."

Mar 24, 2022 2:51 AM

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I know Togen sensei is not really okay and he is dying. I predict this and it is true. Togen sensei is more shocking than Natsuo x Rui x Hina. Natsuo x Rui haave agreement to propose? Oh well, this is not the end ofc. Sasuga will bring more drama before it's end.

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Togen is deader than Natsuo x Hina

Also everyone saying Hina "dug her own grave" doesn't understand selfless love -- something Rui will never have.
Hina deserves to win. Everything she has done has been out of her pure love for Natsuo. Everything Rui has done has been selfish and stupid. Hina's breakup with Natsuo was perfectly reasonable; Rui's was stupid. Rui selfishly stole Natsuo from Hina; Hina has been suppressing her desires for Natsuo out of feelings of guilt, unwilling to steal him away from her sister.

Now, Hina is finally at her breaking point, and rightfully so.
Rui deserves a total loss, and Hina deserves lots of make up romance scenes for all of the neglect she has faced in this cruel NTR manga.

HeroicIdealAug 4, 10:17 PM

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Okay, Rui's problems are solves, Hina is hurting. She was about to be hurt more but it was interrupted by a call. Sensei's life is ending. :(

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