| https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/09/us/pge-power-outage-wednesday/index.html PG&E has been planning to do this for months yet they waited until today to let everybody know that they're about to lose electricity tonight for up to five days if not even longer. God forbid they warn us ahead of time so that we can prepare. People and companies are panicking that they're going to be left completely unable to function for an entire week. My college doesn't even know whether or not they're going to remain open tomorrow and there are many small business owners preparing to lose thousands possibly even tens of thousands of dollars worth of food when the refrigeration shuts off; there will be people who lose their businesses (and employees their jobs) as a result of this. What a shit show. How is our government and its propped up monopolies this fucking incompetent? And you can't even check the damn website to see if you'll be affected because it's been down all day lol. P.S. Don't worry though, PG&E is going to prop up some last minute community centers where people can charge their devices even though there won't be even a fraction of the amount of outlets needed for everybody. Sorry though, no food or water, you'll just have to go to a restauran-oh, wait, those will all be shut down due to no power. Silicon Valley is about to go from tech capital of the world to third world country lol; can't wait to see how this plays out. They could have fixed all their infrastructure county by county slowly over time ages ago but nope now they have to shut everything down at once and scramble to get it taken care of. Meanwhile while they blame the lawsuit for spurring this. The lawsuit for the devastating Forrest fire they caused and the lawsuit the taxpayer is going to have to foot the bill for since they can declare bankruptcy as many times as they want and California will always bail them out (even though we're all already essentially forced to pay them our hard earned tax dollars every month. California is a perfect example of how not to run your state. Maybe we'll get lucky and this PR nightmare will make PG&E haul ass to make sure this event is as small and short lasting as possible. |
| thats like 3rd world power interruption lol go buy a portable power generator lol |
| This is why I never got a smart meter. They are designed to make this sort of thing very easy but you can't take out my electricity without taking out the whole neighbourhood. They should be sued out of business for loss of earnings, spoiled food etc. |
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| How does this state even function with all of the mismanagement and shit policies? This is worse than Flint. |
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Kyotosomo said: Unfortunately they're practically a government entity so that'd basically be like sewing yourself; can't actually get justice. They also can't go out of business because they're the sole provider so California will use taxpayer dollars to bail them out every time. I forgot that the US has monopolies virtually everywhere, they are illegal here. I have 25-30 power, water and broadband companies to choose from. |
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| Perhaps instead of wasting billions on a bullet train perhaps they could use that money to bury the power lines so that this won't be an issue in the future. Its got to be cheaper in the long run compared to the lives and money lost due to wild fires caused by power lines during high winds. It's not like they didn't know California was a wild fire prone area. After all many of the plants are fire adept.Smoke activated seeds, fire activated buds, cones that require fire to melt the resin so seeds can come out, and some plants are coated with a flammable out to encourage more intense burning. |
ezikialrageOct 11, 2019 2:31 AM
| see's California mentioned. move along people just another day in cali. |
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| How does California even function with crap like this? Nearly one million people without power for days. |
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Tropisch said: How does California even function with crap like this? Nearly one million people without power for days. because they kept bending backwards for that sweet silicon valley money. which caused a housing crisis there which made all the houses expensive as fk. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| The wildfires must be really crazy for over there... |
QPR said: They are the provider to a portion of the State, not the entirety of it. And its mainly Northern California, while there is a second smaller company it doesn't have the size to support the amount of consumers PG&E does so hasn't stepped up to the mat to play ball. The state could do some disassembling but that is court battles for another day?Kyotosomo said: Unfortunately they're practically a government entity so that'd basically be like sewing yourself; can't actually get justice. They also can't go out of business because they're the sole provider so California will use taxpayer dollars to bail them out every time. I forgot that the US has monopolies virtually everywhere, they are illegal here. I have 25-30 power, water and broadband companies to choose from. hazarddex said: Also only for the Bay area of the state, while other areas are restricted by tough laws that require a high bar for development. Just pointing out, the State is large and people are conflating making large proportions of things that aren't entirely large for it.Tropisch said: How does California even function with crap like this? Nearly one million people without power for days. because they kept bending backwards for that sweet silicon valley money. which caused a housing crisis there which made all the houses expensive as fk. Nettle_Tea said: California 3rd world? Power outages aren't random, as this article provides why its being turned off, only some cities have issues with feces out of a state of more than hundreds of other cities, corrupt government in this large of a state can mean anything, and the economic inequality explains crime.Nice to know I officially live in the 3rd world now. In California we now have random power outages, feces in the streets, corrupt government and high crime rates. We are a 3rd world country now. ezikialrage said: Maybe not so much in a state with constant earthquakes--it would probably cost to much just to ensure there is not interruptions or maintaining the integrity of the cords themselves (unless optic is an option for electrical--but never heard of such tech..yet).Perhaps instead of wasting billions on a bullet train perhaps they could use that money to bury the power lines so that this won't be an issue in the future. Its got to be cheaper in the long run Hoppy said: Shutting off power is worse than consuming lead and bathing in contaminated water? Thats seems off somehow--though the water isn't that great in some areas but that isn't electricHow does this state even function with all of the mismanagement and shit policies? This is worse than Flint. MiloD said: Probably the truest post even if sarcastic lol High winds just blew down power-lines causing a massive fire that shutdown some freeway systems. Unlike PG&E, this power company turned off the supply (and those that could cause more fires elsewhere) and has a rerouted system already in place to ensure its customers (most of Los Angeles and surrounding cities) don't suffer from a power lossThe wildfires must be really crazy for over there... |
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Silverstorm said: Maybe not so much in a state with constant earthquakes--it would probably cost to much just to ensure there is not interruptions or maintaining the integrity of the cords themselves (unless optic is an option for electrical--but never heard of such tech..yet). There might not be that much interruptions.It might be safer to build underground and the issue with liquefaction can be addressed with mixing soil with grout and other materials to strengthen the soil . https://la.curbed.com/2019/1/16/18178979/subway-tunnels-earthquake-fault-lines uring an earthquake, explains Avouac, ground shaking causes buildings to rock back and forth, putting stress on them that can cause structural damage or even collapse. A tunnel, on the other hand, moves within the ground rather than atop it. “When you have a subsurface structure, it’s less vulnerable, because you don’t have that inertia effect,” Avouac says. But that doesn’t mean tunnels are invulnerable to damage during earthquakes. “Probably the most common source of difficulty with underground construction, is from liquefaction,” says Jonathan Stewart, UCLA professor of geotechnical engineering. Liquefaction happens when damp, sandy soil loses its load-bearing strength during an earthquake. It can cause the ground surrounding tunnels to shift, with potentially severe consequences. In 1995, the deadly Great Hanshin earthquake caused liquefaction that contributed to the collapse of multiple underground structures, including a subway station in Kobe, Japan. Zones where liquefaction is likely to occur cover large swaths of Los Angeles County, including much of the land around Dodger Stadium—where the Boring Company aims to build a high-speed tunnel. The underground portion of the soon-to-open Crenshaw/LAX Line and the site of a future Metro Purple Line station at the intersection of Wilshire and La Cienega boulevards are also located in liquefaction zones. Construction of the station is part of Metro’s Westside Purple Line extension, a project that residents and elected officials have closely scrutinized. An environmental report from Metro indicates that the agency plans to address potential liquefaction at key points along the Purple Line route through a process called “ground improvement” in which grout or other material is literally mixed into the ground soil in order to strengthen earth in these areas and make it less prone to displacement during a major earthquake. As simplistic a solution as this may seem, Stewart says it’s likely to be effective as long as structural engineers and geologists have properly assessed the risk. |
Silverstorm said: Hoppy said: Shutting off power is worse than consuming lead and bathing in contaminated water? Thats seems off somehow--though the water isn't that great in some areas but that isn't electricHow does this state even function with all of the mismanagement and shit policies? This is worse than Flint. You can just get bottled water if lead is in the drinking water, however with the power out, you have no refrigeration which is life threatening in the modern world not just for food but blood, organ, and plasma supplies and while hospitals have generators for backup, this a long power outage equivalent to the lower middle end disasters. PG&E have threatened the lives of thousands of people. |
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| @ezikialrage Interesting. I'm not going to look into it further than your post but presuming from that atleast we know the "tech" is available, thank you for the link. @Hoppy Or saved millions from potential fires? We may never know (and most likely not; doubt they saved anything). I still can't rationale that as equal outcomes from different causes though but understand how you came to the conclusion. |
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