| Because we're not Japanese and MeToo, I also feel like no one here is willing to admit that we all put up with it just because it turns us on, "it's part of the story" lol you just want to bust a nut liar |
Ryuk9428 said: YattaX said: Because it is hard to take character seriously if camera is zooming on to their panties or ass all the time. Fanservice is especially bad during dramatic moments cause it ruins the tension when when camera is zooming on cleavage or female have oversized bouncing boobs. Then there are shows that are noting more then fanservice, instead of relaying on plot, character development to sell the show, they rely on facservice and fetishes. That is the reason why there are so many harems out there with shit writing. Um, buddy, have you seen your signature? But that doesn't go against @Yattax comment? That gif is from a series inspired by American adult animations and cartoons period, its humor relies a lot in toilet jokes, sex jokes etc. stuff that you see on TV. Even the character's name is Panty, bitch (as the show introduces) whose life goal is to fuck 100 different men. That pole dance scene was used as a joke in a comedic show. Nevertheless I don't really know is he really serious with that comment. But context usually matters, even with fanservice. |
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konkelo said: But that doesn't go against @Yattax comment? That gif is from a series inspired by American adult animations and cartoons period, its humor relies a lot in toilet jokes, sex jokes etc. stuff that you see on TV. Even the character's name is Panty, bitch (as the show introduces) whose life goal is to fuck 100 different men. That pole dance scene was used as a joke in a comedic show. Nevertheless I don't really know is he really serious with that comment. But context usually matters, even with fanservice. Which further proves my point if he's acting like fanservice elements are detracting from the show. Sexual content, can be the basis of a good story without it needing to be porn. |
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| I don't think fanservice is necessarily bad , but I feel like fan service can get kind of annoying? at least in series that fanservice isn't really appropriate for. Fanservice is completely fine if it goes with the mood and idea, but it gets annoying when you're watching a scene that is meant to be intense and action-packed and all you see is a bunch of fanservice. If that's what you're into, that's completely okay, but I personally don't care for a lot of it, especially when it's in series that would be better without (example; Fairy Tail) |
| Something something objectification, something something male gaze, something something unrealistic. Me? I don't watch it simply because it doesn't appeal to me. |
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Ryuk9428 said: konkelo said: But that doesn't go against @Yattax comment? That gif is from a series inspired by American adult animations and cartoons period, its humor relies a lot in toilet jokes, sex jokes etc. stuff that you see on TV. Even the character's name is Panty, bitch (as the show introduces) whose life goal is to fuck 100 different men. That pole dance scene was used as a joke in a comedic show. Nevertheless I don't really know is he really serious with that comment. But context usually matters, even with fanservice. Which further proves my point if he's acting like fanservice elements are detracting from the show. Sexual content, can be the basis of a good story without it needing to be porn. Expect majority criticism or dislike I see people giving to sexual fanservice is about breaking the shows atmosphere by having silly camera angle to focus on ass or female character having unnaturally bouncy boobs, that's when it becomes distracting is what i get out of many comments even here. There's nothing to be distracted or feel off in a comedy show that is using "mature" humor and has characters fucking in plenty of episodes. It isn't comparable to battle scene in an action show where the camera switches to focus on sexy parts of the character, which many like to use as an example. Western media comparison of something similar imo is Transformers: The last knight, with scene of camera on male mc abs and our female mc eyeing him. It's a mess of a movie, but it certainly didn't need that moment and it came out of nowhere. It's another thing if that critique is justified, and sure enough how people view a show influences that stand. But there needs to also be understanding, if someone criticizes one thing in one show but finds it ok in another doesn't make them hypocritical automatically or devalues that critic. Quite many are ok with Kill la Kill's skimpy outfits, because they're satisfied by the explanation given in the show. Those same people may not like sexual fanservice usually, maybe even avoiding it. So I stand by my comment, context matters. |
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Dollphace said: Well you're watching things that aren't your target group and then complain that it massages the target group in lieu of you.Second thing is that it usually isn't reciprocated for female viewers. With harem anime there are like 6 girls which appeal to male fancy in SOME way. The lewd, the loli, the big sister, the mother type, the childhood best friend. etc. But women are left with the lanky unattractive protagonist. Then some, NOT ALL, I repeat NOT ALL MEN get mad when this is pointed out. "But you have Free! and Yuri on Ice and Haikyuu and all that other gay stuff!!" I'm a fujoshi, but in a universe as expansive as anime I shouldn't be subjected to ONE genre to get my fan service when usually men can obtain it in almost any genre. And not every woman is into yaoi. Those are just my thoughts. Plenty of non BL-themed stuff that just treats the fan-service evenly. Bunny Girl Senpai despite the name would be a good example of a show where the fan-service is indeed realistic to the plot. Sakuta is shirtless because his scars need to be investigated; Mai is in a Bunny Girl Suit because he promised it to Sakuta in exchange for academic performance.Having said that against better judgement I gave Date a Live a shot and it can get annoying. The show styles itself a "parody" of things to get away with it but it's not even funny. We have a military unit that for whatever reason is all-female and seems to follow Wonder-Woman-Senpai's ideas on how to design combat armor. It just looks ridiculous. There's also a scene in there which so blatantly showcases a difference in that in quick succession the viewer is is shown a naked male and - female but the male is not sexy at all and by that I don't mean there's anything inhærently wrong with the body but just the male actually goes to take a bath the way human beings normally do walking around and when the female goes to take a bath he does so like a stripper for whatever reason. erotic bathing (NSFW) |
 It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Often times it’s because they find it in shows that they didn’t expect to find it in, and it feels forced, annoying, and dumb. And I also get annoyed with that. You don’t hear huge ecchi fans complain about fanservice, that’s a part of the show. It’s more when it’s in an action or something like that. |
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| Unrelated, imagine Bugs Bunny squeezing Daffy Duck's butt and Daffy getting embarrassed. |
| People hate sexual fanservice because it doesn't feel good when the anime is treating you like a damn pervert who WANTS to see prepubescent girls stick their faces into other prepubescent girls' ASSES. Yes, I'm talking about YOU, Dragon Maid, you f*king trash. Seriously though. That's nasty. @Dollphace: Agree 95%. I sometimes find the harem leads highly attractive though. xD I.E. Kinji is incredibly sexy  HNNNNNGH. @Sphinxter Yes, we are watching things not in our target group...but the OP asked "Why" so she was just answering the question. Besides it's possible to like something NOT targeted at you yet not like every single aspect of it. People tell me they can't believe I like NGNL since I am female but I tell them "Um, I don't like it for the ecchi stuff. I like it in spite of that. Same with harem and other fanservicey shows. I don't go into them expecting everything to be tasteful...but I'm happier when they actually are. (Nisekoi's lack of sexual fanservice in the anime makes it very appealing to me.) |
ChiibiJun 27, 2019 8:14 PM
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Chiibi said: Ah, not a man of culture I see.People hate sexual fanservice because it doesn't feel good when the anime is treating you like a damn pervert who WANTS to see prepubescent girls stick their faces into other prepubescent girls' ASSES. @Sphinxter Quite, there is but the user whom I replied to didn't say "I don't enjoy it" but said "It isn't targeted towards my foolish box I need to put myself in."; the complaint was entirely that it wasn't targeted at whatever socialfag group he needed to make up to feel comfortable in.Yes, we are watching things not in our target group...but the OP asked "Why" so she was just answering the question. Besides it's possible to like something NOT targeted at you yet not like every single aspect of it. People tell me they can't believe I like NGNL since I am female but I tell them "Um, I don't like it for the ecchi stuff. I like it in spite of that. Same with harem and other fanservicey shows. I don't go into them expecting everything to be tasteful...but I'm happier when they actually are. (Nisekoi's lack of sexual fanservice in the anime makes it very appealing to me.) |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
Sphinxter said: Ah, not a man of culture I see. EXCUSE YOU....  @shnishkerboberts: ..........I hate you forever for putting that image in my head. :/ /jk |
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| Ah, so you're an Elf or an Olympian, an a.i.?, a member of the Æsir? |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| What is fanservice? YoU can TeLl ME PLEASE,?? |
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Setsuei said: Well, just because I know a show has a certain trait doesn't mean I can't think I'd be more satisfied with it if it didn't have that trait. It's just an honest statement of opinion.The thing I don't get is why people complain about there being too much fanservice in anime that are clearly tagged " ecchi". |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Setsuei said: Well, just because I know a show has a certain trait doesn't mean I can't think I'd be more satisfied with it if it didn't have that trait. It's just an honest statement of opinion.The thing I don't get is why people complain about there being too much fanservice in anime that are clearly tagged " ecchi". That's fine and all, but if you know the trait is there and said trait is going to get in the way of your enjoyment, why bother watching it in the first place? Wouldn't you rather watch something that's less likely to have it? |
Setsuei said: I would, yeah. But stories aren't substitutable like that, unfortunately, so it's not like I can switch to another story with the same characters/aesthetic/music/setting but without that trait.GlennMagusHarvey said: Well, just because I know a show has a certain trait doesn't mean I can't think I'd be more satisfied with it if it didn't have that trait. It's just an honest statement of opinion. That's fine and all, but if you know the trait is there and said trait is going to get in the way of your enjoyment, why bother watching it in the first place? Wouldn't you rather watch something that's less likely to have it? So what happens is that I take the parts I like along with the parts I don't like, as long as it's not something that annoys me too much. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Setsuei said: I would, yeah. But stories aren't substitutable like that, unfortunately, so it's not like I can switch to another story with the same characters/aesthetic/music/setting but without that trait.That's fine and all, but if you know the trait is there and said trait is going to get in the way of your enjoyment, why bother watching it in the first place? Wouldn't you rather watch something that's less likely to have it? So what happens is that I take the parts I like along with the parts I don't like, as long as it's not something that annoys me too much. Fair enough. Now that I think about it I tend to do the same thing when something I watch has romance in it, even though I'm not a big fan of that genre. |
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Setsuei said: Yeah, it's really not something that's specific to fanservice.GlennMagusHarvey said: I would, yeah. But stories aren't substitutable like that, unfortunately, so it's not like I can switch to another story with the same characters/aesthetic/music/setting but without that trait. So what happens is that I take the parts I like along with the parts I don't like, as long as it's not something that annoys me too much. Fair enough. Now that I think about it I tend to do the same thing when something I watch has romance in it, even though I'm not a big fan of that genre. Besides, it's also very context-dependent. Exposed midriffs in girls' uniforms in Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor? Unnecessary fanservice, in my opinion. Exposed midriffs in girls' uniforms in Cross Ange? Actually justified and make sense in context. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Setsuei said: Yeah, it's really not something that's specific to fanservice.Fair enough. Now that I think about it I tend to do the same thing when something I watch has romance in it, even though I'm not a big fan of that genre. Besides, it's also very context-dependent. Exposed midriffs in girls' uniforms in Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor? Unnecessary fanservice, in my opinion. Exposed midriffs in girls' uniforms in Cross Ange? Actually justified and make sense in context. Right, there's always some things that feel completely out of place for that specific type of anime. |
| It may not ruin the entire anime if it's only a one or two-time occurrence, but it'll definitely throw off the groove that the episode had going for it and it makes me have to reevaluate the character for a second. Like I enjoyed watching this character, why the hell did he have to suddenly grab the largest tits known to man while a moan echoes in the background |
| I don’t have an issue with it if it’s done well, but it adds nothing character wise or thematically or to the narrative and can only impact a series negatively (look at fucking nisemonogatari or shitugeki no soma) |
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